Archive for Friday, May 5, 2006

Rumsfeld hears more protesters during speech

May 5, 2006


— Protesters repeatedly interrupted Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld during a speech Thursday and one man, a former CIA analyst, accused him of lying about Iraq prewar intelligence in an unusually vociferous display of anti-war sentiment.

"Why did you lie to get us into a war that caused these kind of casualties and was not necessary?" asked Ray McGovern, the former analyst, during a question-and-answer session.

"I did not lie," shot back Rumsfeld, who waved off security guards ready to remove McGovern from the hall at the Southern Center for International Studies.

With Iraq war support remaining low, it is not unusual for top Bush administration officials to encounter protests and hostile questions. But the outbursts Rumsfeld confronted Thursday seemed beyond the usual.

Three protesters were escorted away by security as each interrupted Rumsfeld's speech by jumping up and shouting anti-war messages. Throughout the speech, a fourth protester stood in the middle of the room with his back to Rumsfeld in silent protest. Officials reported no arrests.

Rumsfeld has been interrupted by anti-war demonstrators in congressional hearing rooms as he has delivered testimony to lawmakers in recent months, and at some speeches across the country.

President Bush seldom faces such challenges. Demonstrators usually are kept far from him at public events.


xenophonschild 11 years, 10 months ago

"kept far away from him at public events." Yeah, try that next November.

mefirst 11 years, 10 months ago

That's why I loved Stephen Colbert's cutting speech last Friday. Bush had to sit there, SHUT-UP, and listen to his critique, smiling all the while.

Bush/Rumsfeld HATE democracy.

xenophonschild 11 years, 10 months ago


Kevin, (Arminius, whatever he calls himself) is a liar. He consistently maintains that the Clinton Administration is responsbile for Osama bin Laden having a free hand to plan and finance the bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998, the near-destruction of the American destroyer Cole in Yemen in 2000, and the devastation of 9/11.

But he fails to include in his rants - from his own sources - that Clinton Administration officials struggled to find a way to arrest OBL in Sudan and have him placed in custody in Saudi Arabia.

And - this is the point he so conveniently ignores - "unable to persuade the Saudis to accept Mr. bin Ladan, and lacking a case to indict him in U.S. courts, the Clinton Administration finally gave up on the capture." (Int. Herald-Tribune, 10-4-01).

Arminius is a liar. I know something of lying, having done it a number of times in open court, in front of judges, juries, and the assembled public. But to lie on a newspaper website, to a group of strangers, and for debating points - is nothing short of contemptible.

Kevin needs to apologize, rein in his irrational hatred of William the Great, and promise to vote for Hillary in '08.

shanefivedyes 11 years, 10 months ago

Holygrailale, Just a warning, Xenophonschild is trying to get in your pants(He thinks your a girl) Please be aware of your surrondings. Just a warning!!!

shanefivedyes 11 years, 10 months ago

Put me down for misspelling surroundings... although I am still concerned about Holygrailale.

badger 11 years, 10 months ago

Married or not, they're funny as heck.

It's like watching uniformed Kirk Trekkies argue with uniformed Picard Trekkies, when these two end up taking over a thread. Nothing of substance gets said, they spend a lot of time going over things they've already argued into inanity, there's a lot of invective and spittle, and they both look a little ridiculous.

badger 11 years, 10 months ago

Taken the time?

Hell, I took popcorn!

It's hysterically funny. I highly recommend it. It's not hard in any college town to find a group of Trekkies. Wait for a lull in conversation, and say, "So which one was the 'real' captain of the ship? Kirk or Picard?"

Then just sit back and watch the carnage. They'll pull out episode numbers and statistics and quotes, and bring up Starfleet regulations and stardates, and after about half an hour, one of them or their friends will start yelling in Klingon.

Alternatively, find a gaming convention and ask, "So which version of AD&D works best for rogue classes?" and listen to the following hour of hair-tearing conflict over each DM's personal modifications and his own special 'Edition' as opposed to someone else's 'Edition 3.725' version, with the special twist he's added to the critical success on the backstab skill, and how the other guy is just a module-running hack who wouldn't know a d4 if he stepped on it like a caltrop.

Part of being a happy geek is knowing that other geeks are funny.

Linda Endicott 11 years, 10 months ago

I usually don't even read through all their posts anymore. I just get tired of the same old arguments all the time, over and over and over and over...

Your description of the Trekkies was hilarious, Badger. Next time you find a group of them, throw in the name "Janeway" and see what happens...

You might have to bring something more substantial than popcorn to munch on.

ben_ness 11 years, 10 months ago

holygrailale -

Thanks for the laughs!

Arminius - Clinton, lie? Don't forget that he "didn't have sexual relations with that woman"

Clinton was a better President than Bush will ever be but that doesn't mean he wasn't averse to lying, or better yet, bending the truth. Considering that he admitted to lying in a round about way, doesn't this mean he could have just as easily lied about WMD in Iraq? Just curious.

ben_ness 11 years, 10 months ago


I have seen that book a couple of times on the table at Barnes and Noble. I will have to peruse it next time. As for Hillary, she certainly DOES NOT have my vote in '08 - if she makes it that far.

Thanks for being nice.

ben_ness 11 years, 10 months ago

In a conversation with friends during dinner the other night a funny, but viable, point was brought up. If by some fluke Hillary is elected in '08, Bill Clinton will be the First Husband. Considering the mischief he was able to cause while also serving as the President of the United States, imagine what he will be able to do in the Whitehouse with so much extra time on his hands.

ben_ness 11 years, 10 months ago

I am not a huge fan of Bush, and I thought Clinton was a good president and at least charismatic and intelligent enough to keep the confidence and morale of the nation up. Hillary, however, makes my skin crawl.

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