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Happy to hype

IRL’s Patrick misses buzz that enveloped rookie year

July 1, 2006

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— Sure, the media room is still crowded, and Danica Patrick is still holding 30-minute press conferences when she has no top-five finishes this year.

But make no mistake about it. Patrick, more than anyone, misses the mania.

"I like doing interviews. I enjoy it," Patrick said. "I suppose I miss that hype a little bit. It will come. The results just have to jump back up again."

After an exciting Indy Racing League rookie campaign - which included winning the pole at the Kansas Speedway and finishing fourth at the Indianapolis 500 - Patrick has somewhat fallen back into the fray after experiencing what has been a rebuilding year with her Rahal Letterman team.

Shortly after the season began, the team changed over from Panoz to Dallara cars, a dramatic shift usually held for the off-season.

The result has been a tough transition for Patrick, who is currently 12th in the point standings with a highest overall finish of sixth.

"It's a painful process. It's not pretty from the outside with our results right now," Patrick said. "But in the long run this is the sort of thing that you have to do. We all just have to stick it out."

The change in cars has forced her crew to make adjustments on the run. At Texas Motor Speedway, her only goal was to make sure her seat was in the correct position.

"You get 5 Gs in the corner. We're going 200 miles per hour side-by-side. The last thing you want to be thinking is, 'Oh wait. My glove is catching on that hook. I can't turn,'" Patrick said. "You guys might think that sounds kind of silly, but it's a lot different than driving a car."

The rough times have taken some of the media glare and pressure off Patrick as far as the Indy Racing League is concerned.

Though many would welcome stepping out of the spotlight, Patrick only wishes she was back in it.

"Am I enjoying life more? I'd be lying if I told you yes," Patrick said. "The racing is what makes me happy, and it's not going very well. We're struggling."

Though her racing has hit somewhat of a speed bump, the same cannot be said about her career off the track.

She has recently been named one of Spin Magazine's "25 Hottest Stars Under 25" and is also currently an endorser for Hostess, appearing on Twinkies and Cupcakes boxes.

Patrick said becoming such an icon was a goal that she never believed she couldn't accomplish.

"I've been a successful driver since I was 10 years old. For me to not dream and think that could keep happening through my career would be cheating myself," Patrick said. "Yeah, I thought that could happen. I knew that a woman being a pro and racing well is something the sport hasn't seen, and that it would be a good story.

"And a big story."

Patrick understands just how big she has become. She hopes that her breaking into the IRL will at least let other young girls know the door is open for them to do the same.

"Maybe now that I'm in the Indy Car series, and there are other women in other series, they have someone to look up to," Patrick said. "They're playing with those Indy Cars now maybe."

As for Patrick, she'll try to get comfortable with her own car to return to national prominence for racing.

She's done pretty well for herself thus far.

"I dared to dream, I guess," Patrick said. "I know those are cliched sort of phrases, but I really think it's important. I think it's important to dare to dream really big."

Comments

moderator 7 years, 9 months ago

she's purty... "White trash beautiful"

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Christine Pennewell Davis 7 years, 9 months ago

it is more than keeping a car on course alot more but enough of this holiday weekend go out and enjoy people.

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Marion Lynn 7 years, 9 months ago

beatrice:

We patiently await your derfinition of a TRUE SPORT!

Or is your definition sort of the reverse of the the one provided by someone a few years ago in connection with pornography, which would read something like this:

"I don't know what it is but I know what it's NOT!"?

Thanks.

Marion.

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Marion Lynn 7 years, 9 months ago

beatrice:

And that comment is even more typical of what one might expect from a woman: A question answered with a question.

WOO HOO!

Thanks.

Marion.

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beatrice 7 years, 9 months ago

oooohhh, a "typical woman"! And you would know something about women, typical or otherwise, how?

Besides, I never saw you define what qualifies as a sport, just your saying that racing counts as one.

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Pilgrim 7 years, 9 months ago

Posted by mooseamoose (anonymous) on July 1, 2006 at 5:28 p.m.

Alas I am not native American nor am I drunk.


And if you don't believe it, just ask it.


If I were drunk it might make reading your unctuous dispensations a tad bid more bearable.


Save your bus fare. You're already there.

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Marion Lynn 7 years, 9 months ago

beatrice wrote:

"Actually, I'm not defining what a sport is, I'm just saying racing isn't one."

Marion writes:

Now if that isn't just the kind of answer to be expected from a typical woman!

Thanks.

Marion.

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beatrice 7 years, 9 months ago

Actually, I'm not defining what a sport is, I'm just saying racing isn't one.

By the way Marion, you aren't the first to call me Aunt Bea -- not in life and not around here. Heck, you aren't even the first to do so around here this week.

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swbsow 7 years, 9 months ago

It seems that Beatrice is defining sport as more of athletics rather than general competition.

I see NASCAR as more in the vein of horseracing. It isn't really the human doing the work as the horse/car is. Yes, there maybe some skill in keeping a car on course while driving but I don't feel it is on the same level as football or marathons.

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swbsow 7 years, 9 months ago

Posted by mooseamoose (anonymous) on July 1, 2006 at 6:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes - Missouri is the South. twit

Maybe the bootheel & the Ozarks, but I wouldn' t claim that MO is the south.

/born & raised in KCMO

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Marion Lynn 7 years, 9 months ago

Well, there Aunt Bea, will you please elaborate in a specific manner your idea of a "true sport"?

Thanks.

Marion.

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beatrice 7 years, 9 months ago

Marion: "If you read carefully (Assuming that you CAN read!) you may learn a bit of the sporting aspect of motor racing."

So, Marion, I ask you -- must you always try to insult someone when they don't agree with your world view? You display the argumentative skills of a ten year old. Obviously I can read, so your little swipe is silly at best, just as your comment about Feminazis earlier in the day is a line that says more about you than it does about anyone else. Not only that, but you constantly paste links to things other people have written instead of using your own words. At least I give voice to my own arguments.

Besides that, I was having fun with this today as I clearly don't care in the slightest about racing and race fans. Knowing that it gets you all bunged up is just a bonus.

And I still don't see racing as a true sport.

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Christine Pennewell Davis 7 years, 9 months ago

guess not to bad she started it all when it comes to women and racing, and when it comes to speed that woman kicks nascars butt. But I like nascar so will not knock it. And it is a sport you take those turns for 2-3 hrs on that kinda bank and see if it is so easy people. strenth endurance stamina, takes it all.

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classclown 7 years, 9 months ago

"... Patrick said. "Yeah, I thought that could happen. I knew that a woman being a pro and racing well is something the sport hasn't seen, and that it would be a good story."

========================================

I guess she has never heard of Shirley Muldowney.

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Marion Lynn 7 years, 9 months ago

Yes and here is one of newest rednecks; Bill Lester:

http://www.billlester.com/

I'll be seeing Bill tomorrow and will let him know of your opinion of him.

I am certain that he will be glad to know it.

Thanks.

Marion.

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classclown 7 years, 9 months ago

NASCAR

Non Athletic "Sport" Created Around Rednecks

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Marion Lynn 7 years, 9 months ago

These women might take issue with those who deludedly profess that auto racing is not a sport.

Racerchicks:

http://www.racerchicks.com/racers/index.html

Thanks.

Marion.

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small_fish_in_small_pond 7 years, 9 months ago

She even looks white trash. As comedian George Karlin once remarked: "Race car driving isn't a sport. Same 5 rednecks win it each time".

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Marion Lynn 7 years, 9 months ago

To bring things a bit closer to home, let's take a look at a local sportsman, Masten Gregory:

http://www.atlasf1.com/2000/aut/cox.html

Thanks.

Marion.

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Marion Lynn 7 years, 9 months ago

Ah, well, on this fine weekend I have exoerienced a change of heart and will attempt to bring the Light to those of you who cannot fathom motor racing as a sport.

To some of you, this will still be very much like asking the price of a Rolls-Royce; If you have to ask, you do not need to know but I shall endeavour to persevere.

Written by Ken W. Purdy, most likely the greatest automotive writer of all time, this biography of the great Marquis de Portago stands as one of the finest examples of automotive journalism ever written.

If you read carefully (Assuming that you CAN read!) you may learn a bit of the sporting aspect of motor racing.

PORTAGO!:

http://www.caranddriver.com/anniversary/9016/portago.html

Thanks.

Marion.

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mooseamoose 7 years, 9 months ago

Yes - Missouri is the South. twit

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Pilgrim 7 years, 9 months ago

Posted by mooseamoose (anonymous) on July 1, 2006 at 5:34 p.m.

oh dear. I forgot the South's grandest son Rush Limbaugh.


An F in geography. Rush is from Missouri. The South? Idiot.

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mooseamoose 7 years, 9 months ago

oh dear. I forgot the South's grandest son Rush Limbaugh. Where would we be without that percocet gulping , viagra smugglin' toad?

My, why would a good conservative like Rush need viagra? He's not even married. hmmmm

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beatrice 7 years, 9 months ago

Its more of an EP than a full record, wouldn't you say?

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mooseamoose 7 years, 9 months ago

Wow, It is such a privilege to be in the presence of the two most pompous and narcissistic sophists found on these boards.

Alas I am not native American nor am I drunk. If I were drunk it might make reading your unctuous dispensations a tad bid more bearable.

Did I mention my gratitude to the South giving us the meth makin', cousin kissin', beer swillin', sheep lovin' yokels that make this country great.

And don't forget lynchin'

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Mike Blur 7 years, 9 months ago

Beatrice said:

"Come on Pilgrim"

That's the name of a Pixies record!

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beatrice 7 years, 9 months ago

Come on Pilgrim, don't get distracted by the drunk moose on the loose. Stay focused on the argument at hand.

Now, there are no holes in the argument. marathon running = sport (which explains why men and women don't compete against each other in this event), while racing = non-sport due to the necessity for a machine to propel the racer around the track and not just leg strength, which is why men and women can compete equally. I agree that racing is a competition, but in racing if the engine isn't working, where are you?

I should point out that the hole in your argument is that anything that requires stamina and endurance (and I'll add remaining focused and being brave) should then be considered a sport. I'm sure those are qualities of the finest fighter pilots, and there are certainly winners and losers when it comes to fighter pilots, but I don't see this activity being considered a sport. Sex is another example. Competetive Scrabble still another (although bravery is clearly less important here). Again, neither of these are sports.

So you see, you still haven't convinced me that racing isn't about mechanics more than anything else.

I'm still not saying people shouldn't enjoy racing -- taking part or watching. To each her own. I just think they should keep it off ESPN and save that air space for real sports -- like Spelling Bees!

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Pilgrim 7 years, 9 months ago

Posted by Marion (Marion Lynn) on July 1, 2006 at 2:10 p.m.

Pilgrim:

I have concluded that we are casting the finest of pearls before the worst sort of swine.


It appears so. Especially with the appearance of a very familiar drunken native American who is working on his third or fourth digital incarnation, having had his previous efforts banned from this and other boards.

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Pilgrim 7 years, 9 months ago

Posted by beatrice (anonymous) on July 1, 2006 at 2:12 p.m.

Pilgrim -- a couple of things. Yes, if we were in identical cars Patrick would kick my tail. She has skills and training. But that is really my point. It would require the mechanics to be near even for her to be able to beat little old me in a race. That is why she can compete against the boys -- she has sponsorship that will buy her a car as good as the ones the boys have.


Yeah, and... ? The sanctioning bodies try to make the cars as equal as possible so the races will be more about the drivers and less about the cars. So if Danica Patrick is competing with the big boys, she must be just as good; obvious physical differences aside.


As far as a driver having strong legs in order to make it a sport -- Does this mean that Patrick would kick tail on male and female long-distance runners? If that is what makes it a sport, then why include a car at all? Also, why don't male and female runners compete against each other? It is because men, for the most part, have stronger legs than women. If it was only about muscles, Patrick wouldn't stand a chance against men due to the biological differences between men and women. Again, this is why racing is about mechanics and not a sport. (And yes, just so you know, I excercise regularly and actually can run for that long.)


So you know, then, that your argument is already full of holes. It isn't all about strength. We're not talking about doing squats here, or leg presses. This is about endurance and stamina. You going to say women aren't as good at those as men? And are you also saying those who run marathons are not athletes and the marathon is not a sport?

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Pilgrim 7 years, 9 months ago

Posted by mooseamoose (anonymous) on July 1, 2006 at 1:53 p.m.

Pilgrim - nosebleeeds?


Yes, and I'm replying to one of the victims right now. This idiot has it so bad, there is no blood getting to its brain at all.

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Christine Pennewell Davis 7 years, 9 months ago

racing is a sport... my husband and daughter both race, so....

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beatrice 7 years, 9 months ago

Oops, I see in our civil discourse that we have lost Marion back to his usual standard of name-calling. Swine indeed. Oh well, I at least tried to respond to him as a decent human being for a change. Silly me.

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beatrice 7 years, 9 months ago

Staying indoors today because it is already well over 100 degrees here. Thanks for the entertaining banter to keep me distracted from doing house chores.

Marion - apple pies don't bake themselves, either. That human factor is a skill, but that doesn't make baking a sport, nor does it qualify racing as one.

Pilgrim -- a couple of things. Yes, if we were in identical cars Patrick would kick my tail. She has skills and training. But that is really my point. It would require the mechanics to be near even for her to be able to beat little old me in a race. That is why she can compete against the boys -- she has sponsorship that will buy her a car as good as the ones the boys have.

As far as a driver having strong legs in order to make it a sport -- Does this mean that Patrick would kick tail on male and female long-distance runners? If that is what makes it a sport, then why include a car at all? Also, why don't male and female runners compete against each other? It is because men, for the most part, have stronger legs than women. If it was only about muscles, Patrick wouldn't stand a chance against men due to the biological differences between men and women. Again, this is why racing is about mechanics and not a sport. (And yes, just so you know, I excercise regularly and actually can run for that long. I've not run in any full marathons, but I've thought about maybe trying someday -- although I'm not sure how good I am on a tricycle.)

Keep trying folks!

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Marion Lynn 7 years, 9 months ago

Pilgrim:

I have concluded that we are casting the finest of pearls before the worst sort of swine.

Thanks.

Marion.

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mooseamoose 7 years, 9 months ago

Pilgrim - nosebleeeds? Well if you snort da meth it makes your nose bleed and if you drink too much moonshine ya go blind and if you listen to the bible-thumpers yer ears bleed

       @ @
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all yous uppity varmits izza irritating me so I'm gonna go gaze at my Dale Earnheardt Jr poster cuz he's purdy

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Pilgrim 7 years, 9 months ago

Posted by beatrice (anonymous) on July 1, 2006 at 1:19 p.m.

I would like to know, in your opinion, what makes racing a sport rather than an exercise in mechanics? Go ahead -- try to convice me.


For one thing, it is a well known principle in racing that the driver must be able to run (physically, as in moving your feet/jogging, etc) for as long as they have to race. The average NASCAR race takes two and a half to three hours. An IRL race will usually go two to two and a half hours. Can you run for that long? Those drivers are highly trained and conditioned athletes, making what they do a sport.

And Danica Patrick would kick your tail on tricycles.

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Pilgrim 7 years, 9 months ago

Posted by beatrice (anonymous) on July 1, 2006 at 1:19 p.m.

I've observed the phenomenon of racing, and I say it isn't a sport but mechanics since what is required to win more than anything else is a fast car. Put me in a Corvette and Patrick in a Chevette, and I would win the race.


But put you both in a Chevette or both in a Corvette, and she kicks your tail from here to Indianapolis.

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Pilgrim 7 years, 9 months ago

Jeez, the Lawrence superiority complex is really on display and running at full tilt boogie today. This whole thread just wreaks of the elitism that makes Lawrence a laughing stock to the rest of the state and much of the Midwest.

I've asked before and didn't get an answer, but I'll try one more time. Does being so high and mighty give you a nose bleed? Something is sure impeding the flow to your brain.

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Marion Lynn 7 years, 9 months ago

beatrice:

Although I cannot comprehend the mindset that causes you to ask such a question, I will provide you with at least a clue.

Race cars do not drive themselves.

All things mechanical being equal (And they pretty much are.) there is this quaint notion called The Human Factor which enters into the equation.

If you cannot understand that then I cannot help you further.

Thanks.

Marion.

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beatrice 7 years, 9 months ago

mom-2: Why no, I have not raced before. So what? Have you ever climbed Everest? Nor have I, but I would still be accurate in claiming it to be a mountain based on observation. I've observed the phenomenon of racing, and I say it isn't a sport but mechanics since what is required to win more than anything else is a fast car. Put me in a Corvette and Patrick in a Chevette, and I would win the race.

Of course, at the top levels of racing it is a matter of degrees and not as exaggerated an example as the Corvette / Chevette I put forth. Certainly, some drivers will show more skill than others and they may do this over and over again, but the fundamental necessity to win is to have the fastest car.

However, skill alone doesn't make something a sport. It takes skill to make a great apple pie, grow a beautiful garden, sew a button faster than another -- but should any of these things be considered a sport?

The necessity to have a fast car is different from other sports. For example, the skill in baseball of hitting a fastball can't be installed on the player. There are no tire changes for someone who can't hit a jumpshot in basketball.

If you enjoy racing, that is fine with me. I think it is great for the economics of the Lawrence community to have a track nearby, and I don't believe all race fans are "rednecks." I just simply don't think of racing as a "sport" and I've never heard a good explaination of why I should think it is. If you don't agree with me, try explaining it. I would like to know, in your opinion, what makes racing a sport rather than an exercise in mechanics? Go ahead -- try to convice me.

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mooseamoose 7 years, 9 months ago

Dagnabbit!! I done forgot greased pig chasin'

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reginafliangie 7 years, 9 months ago

Thank god everyone is different and didn't like the same thing, makes the world more interesting. But I guess some think you have a problem with life if you don't like what they like. Sorry Marion, not everyone is going to like the races. Nothing wrong with that. Just how it is, I don't think making fun of people because of it is very nice. Can't we just have fun talking about it?? Must every discussion have a link to a site to "validate" everything you say. Can't anyone have a fun discussion?

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Christine Pennewell Davis 7 years, 9 months ago

beatice have you raced before please let the world know when and where so we can confirm you expertice on racing not being a sport.

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Christine Pennewell Davis 7 years, 9 months ago

oh marion I get it but the crashes are cool. You get to sit there and see it and oh my god is he alright and then say wow so glad it is not me.you get to watch people go fast and almost hit walls in a very controlled caotic dangours way and not risk your own neck. Go like he** and beat the other guy But the crashes are cool.

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beatrice 7 years, 9 months ago

Marion, Who are these Feminazis of whom you speak? What group of women have ever killed millions of Jews and tried to take over the world through military might? As far as touting Patrick as a champion of womanhood, as you put it, would that be the equivalent of what men do when they build statues to people like Michael Jordan whose one great accomplishment in life is the ability to put a ball in a hoop? Does this mean that men who pound their chest or paint their face in favor of a sports team should be called Masculinazis? Or do you need to just put women down for voicing an opinion to be considered a Masculinazi?

Now, for those who have ever considered what is and isn't a "sport," Patrick is actually proof that racing isn't a sport. Men have a biological, muscular advantage over women in sporting events -- men, for the most part, are stronger and faster than women, especially when you look at the strongest and fastest of men. No contest. The reason Patrick can compete at an even level with the men is because racing is about mechanics, not sporting competition.

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Bobbi Reid 7 years, 9 months ago

I am female, and happen to love Nascar... I don't care much for IRL or the truck series, but I love nascar.... I would much rather watch cars go around a track, then watch the Royals lose again and again... and the crashes are awesome to see too.

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Marion Lynn 7 years, 9 months ago

mommaeffortx2:

momma, you are so wrong; it is not the crashes.

It is obviously something that many around here are incapable of understanding.

never mind

Marion.

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iblong 7 years, 9 months ago

Wow...get me a quart of oil and a car up on blocks........ We're a goin be the Ozarks in no time! Black gold, Texas tea, Well first thing ya know old Jed's a ...

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mooseamoose 7 years, 9 months ago

Don't forget grits eatin' and bible thumpin' and Ku Klux Klannin' and meth makin'

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Christine Pennewell Davis 7 years, 9 months ago

the crashes people the crashes that is why

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Marion Lynn 7 years, 9 months ago

quitbitchin:

Yes, please forgive the typo but the rest of the statement is accurate and to the point.

NASCAR is donimnating motorsports these days and it become difficult to eparatae it from the rest!

Thanks.

Marion.

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Marion Lynn 7 years, 9 months ago

Automobile racing was the number one spectator sport from 1952 until 1984 when it slipped slightly behind baseball.

Due to the ever growing popularity of NASCAR, motorsports has again regained the pole position with over 54 million attendees yearly, compared to baseball's 47 million.

An interesting article from SEMA (Specialty Equipment Manufacturer's Association):

http://www.sema.org/main/semaorghome.aspx?id=54087

Thanks.

Marion.

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b_asinbeer 7 years, 9 months ago

If she likes to go round and round a lot, she'll surely enjoy our roundabouts here in beautiful Lawrence.

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mooseamoose 7 years, 9 months ago

The South has given us so much... not just Nascar

like moonshinin' and corn shuckin' and pie eatin' and frog stompin' and cousin kissin' and sheep lovin' and lynchin'.

Don't forget lynchin'

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quitbitchin 7 years, 9 months ago

"Were Danica Patrick involved with any sport but NASCAR..."

Actually, she is NOT involved in nascar, she races IRL.

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Sigmund 7 years, 9 months ago

I'd be more interested in a F1 or Grand Prix racing, like the grown ups do in Europe, but I guess I have to settle for Indy style racing here in Lawrence. NASCAR is to racing what WWF is wrestling.

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mooseamoose 7 years, 9 months ago

I don't care that Nascar was started by God-fearing moonshiners.

I just find it hard to believe anyone enjoys watching cars go round and round and round and round for hours on end.

But hey, whatever floats yer boat.

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reginafliangie 7 years, 9 months ago

Can somebody explain the appeal of watching cars drive around in a circle?? I just don't get it. My husband loves it. I would rather watch paint dry. Or actually do something productive with those 4 or so hours that those races kill.

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Steve Jacob 7 years, 9 months ago

The biggest problem with NASCAR, is more and more cheating. You win a race, they check your car, opps, something wrong with it that makes your car faster. Ohh, you lose points! After awhile, your crew chief MIGHT get suspended.

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bankboy119 7 years, 9 months ago

Marion, I hope you're not serious about NASCAR being the number one spectator sport. What a waste of time.

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Marion Lynn 7 years, 9 months ago

It is just too funny to watch the "diversity" of Lawrence in action!

Some you just cannot STAND IT that NASCAR, with its roots deep in the American South, has become the NUMBER ONE spectator sport in the USA!

Were Danica Patrick involved with any sport but NASCAR the Feminazis would be all over her, touting her as a cahmpion of womanhood!

Ya'll funny!

Thanks.

Marion.

PS.

Check this link:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0606/gallery.danicaportraits4/content.1.html

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quitbitchin 7 years, 9 months ago

yeah i care, and nascar sucks. i'd rather watch open wheel racing anyday.

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audvisartist 7 years, 9 months ago

You just made me dizzy moose... round and round and round and round...

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mooseamoose 7 years, 9 months ago

hey! this is important. She drives her car round and round and round and round really fast.

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iblong 7 years, 9 months ago

Front page headline, really..........We are becoming an expensive version of Topeka. Who came up with this crap?

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Steve Jacob 7 years, 9 months ago

She was in a car that most agreed a good driver would have won INDY 500 last year. While she is young, and probally a big draw for IRL, now, until she wins a race, is unimportant. But as I tell everyone, NASCAR is where the moneys at.

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reginafliangie 7 years, 9 months ago

Mmmmmmmm not I. Sounds like she is missing her 15 min of fame.

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audvisartist 7 years, 9 months ago

Does anyone care? Really. Anyone?

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