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Sebelius: Coal plants will probably be built

Sunflower Electric has proposed three700-megawatt plants next to its current 360-megawatt facility in the west Kansas town of Holcomb

December 21, 2006

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— Gov. Kathleen Sebelius today said she expects that Sunflower Electric Power Corp.'s proposed coal-burning plants will be built.

"It's very difficult within the borders of Kansas to control greenhouse gases and global warming," Sebelius said in an interview with the Lawrence Journal-World.

"I am eager to be a partner in that effort across the country, but what we know is that the Holcomb plant is likely to be built one way or the other. It's a question of does it get built in Kansas or Oklahoma," she said.

Sunflower Electric has proposed three 700-megawatt plants next to its current 360-megawatt facility in the west Kansas town of Holcomb.

The project is under review by the Kansas Department of Health and Environment.

Environmentalists say the plants will be a major source of gases that cause destructive climate change. Supporters of the project say it will burn coal more cleanly than older plants, and will boost the west Kansas economy.

A number of environmental groups have asked Sebelius to reject the Sunflower proposal and declare a moratorium on the construction of coal-fired plants in Kansas.

Sebelius said there needs to be national standards on greenhouse gas emissions. She said Sunflower's proposal has prompted state leaders to focus on energy issues.

"I'm hopeful that what we will do at the end of the day is really use this as an opportunity to accelerate some of the renewable energy of which we have an incredible abundance in this state," she said.

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newsreader 7 years, 7 months ago

Saddly, she is right... It'll be built one way or another, Kansas or Oaklahoma... might as well get the tax money here...

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hipper_than_hip 7 years, 7 months ago

KS should take the lead and build another nuclear power station or two.

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Kaw Pickinton 7 years, 7 months ago

We should take the nuclear waste also, if we don't Utah will.

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Godot 7 years, 7 months ago

A very rational observation from the Governor.

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Baille 7 years, 7 months ago

What is up with politicians and their junior high rationalizations this week? Yesterday, Comissioner Jones uses the everybody-else-is-doing-it excuse, and now Sebelius is using the well-if-I-didn't-do-"insert bad thing here"-then-someone-else-would-have excuse. Nice.

Maybe we should codify that. If the drug dealer comes in to court and says, "Look, it's too bad Little Jimmy diead and all, but if I hadn't sold Little Jimmy the acid then someone else would have" I think that should be good enough. We as a society will just say, "You know you are right, Mr. Badman. Little Jimmy would have bought the acid somewhere else and so we can't hold you to any sort of moral or ethical standard. The fact that someone else is willing to do something bad, makes your decision to do it perfectly fine. You are free to go."

Same way with this deal. We know Sunflower Electric will be building the huge pollution monster somewhere so that makes it OK to build it here. It is only wrong - environmnetally, ethically, morally, whatever - if no one else is doing it or will be doing it.

Wow. This moral reasoning thing is pretty damned easy one you get a few basic rules laid down.

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ASBESTOS 7 years, 7 months ago

How about 1.5 plants in Kansas and 1.5 plants in Oklahoma. That would be consensus. What is going on here is just like everything in politics today. Immigration (if we don't someone else will hire 'em, or everyone else is hiring 'em).

Political rationalization and BOTH parties sells out the American people time after time. But this is what we get when we elect "Fundraisers" and not statesmen and leaders. Most politically elected people today are just a disgusting bag of goo with no backbone and smile.

After all the solution to pollution is dilution.

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Godot 7 years, 7 months ago

Sebelius is basically mirrorring the Bush stance on Kyoto. Why put restrictions on your state when your neighbors do not have the same restrictions? What does it really accomplish, in the long run? Nothing, other than to chase yet another revenue producing business out of the state.

She is right in that the issue of pollution from coal fired plants needs to be addressed Federally, so that all states are on a level playing field.

Furthermore, we cannot afford to abandon coal energy until alternative forms of energy are readily available and accessible. Unless, of course, we all are willing to turn off our computers, our TV's, our lights, and our furnaces and live in the dark and the cold.

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ASBESTOS 7 years, 7 months ago

"We chose Sebilius because she was/is the lesser of two turds."

Every election it is the same thing except "Do you want mustard or mayonaise?"

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devobrun 7 years, 7 months ago

Don't want power plants?

Stop usin' so much power. Put 'em outta business.

Gotta run that computer, and dishwasher, and oven, and microwave, and alarm clock, and coffee pot, and ............

Whiners.

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bytheway 7 years, 7 months ago

Yeah!!! We can have more greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. How exciting!! My children's children will have to wear astronaut suits everytime the go outside if we keep up this excellent work. Nothing like being ignorant about the condition of this earth. Gotta hand it to the governor for trying but all the ignorant nobodies want pollution not solutions to green house gases!!!

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snowWI 7 years, 7 months ago

Well it seems like the governor is saying the same thing as Bush with regards to the national standards on greenhouse gas emissions. Kansas will not do its part to attract newer renewable technolgies and wind energy to the state. The Holcomb power plants will only lessen the need on the electric grid to install renewable wind energy that does not emit greenhouse gases. Kansas can do better than to emit 15 million tons of CO2 when developing nations are building coal power plants rapidly. Many people are angry that these plants would be on-line for 50-75 years using pulverized coal technology with no chance at capturing CO2. Most of the construction jobs at the proposed Holcomb plants will be filled by highly mobile immigrant labor, with as many permanent jobs as a new Wal Mart would provide. Another interesting development is all of the proposed coal power plants that are planned for Texas. The prevailing winds will take that stuff up our way too. A lot of the electricity in Texas will be exported to California, a state that contains no coal plants.

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budwhysir 7 years, 7 months ago

What is a coal plant?? I thought we are researching wind farms. I find that wind farms are beneficial

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ASBESTOS 7 years, 7 months ago

"Most of the construction jobs at the proposed Holcomb plants will be filled by highly mobile immigrant labor..."

That would be highly mobile illegally employed illegal aliens. They are NOT immigrants, as immigrants come here legally. Illegal aliens do not.

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windy 7 years, 7 months ago

SnowWI, those power plants will still be in operation in 50-75 yrs. , and you will still be here posting your stupid comments and crying in your milk. If this happens, why can't you get over it and find some reliable renewable energy and do some thing about it. Coal fired power plants will always be here!

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windy 7 years, 7 months ago

SnowWI, you don't drive a efficient car or any thing else, your daddy pays for this so why not have the best.

SnowWI where do you find this crap,"Kansas should have invested in our transmission line infrastructure years ago so that we would have had at least a good percentage of our electricity from wind." You have not invested in it yourself so how can you use the words OUR or WE. Your imported too! But once again your saying something some one else has said and being a pariot again

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TheRationalist 7 years, 7 months ago

She did the right thing. The people who were whining didn't know what they were talking about. They were loud, but most poeple dont even beleive that Global warming is real.

Its just a liberal lie like most of their lies.Our State needs this work and business.

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Baille 7 years, 7 months ago

"most poeple dont even beleive that Global warming is real."

And that is the danger of only listening to the choir of which one is a part. The majority of the scientific community recognizes that the average global temperature is rising at a much higher rate than seen before. While explanations vary from the the benign to the catastrophic, denying the phenomena out of hand is reckless. Luckily the scientific choir will continue to examine the issue either to study whether it is real or only apparent or to try and determine its origins. The Limbaugh Choir will just sit back and splutter.

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budwhysir 7 years, 7 months ago

I have some research that shows global warming to actualy be caused by the sun. Radiating heat from the sun causes an effect known as heat. During the summer time, the sun is closer to the area in summer.

Global cooling could be caused by the sun loosing heat. Therefor not burning as bright. While I will give you that wind is a renuable resources, there could be a shortage of wind in the years to come. If you take global warming and shortage of water resivors into effect

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Baille 7 years, 7 months ago

Sounds good, Bud. With a little more study, you might be able to get that published.

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