Green Bay, Wis. ? Brett Favre’s aching left ankle probably needs arthroscopic surgery to clean out bone spurs.

“My left ankle probably needs it,” he said Wednesday. “I have to kind of convince myself to do it.”

The 37-year-old Favre said pain in the ankle comes and goes.

“Some days it feels better than others,” he said. “Today’s not one of those days where it feels good.”

Favre needs 10 more touchdown passes to beat Dan Marino’s mark of 420, and Favre said team physician Dr. Patrick McKenzie told him it would be a simple operation.

“I’m sure it would feel much better,” Favre said.

Green Bay is 4-8 and has lost three straight games.

Favre says he’s the “ultimate optimist” even though he has won just eight of his last 29 games.

“If I’m sitting here next year, I’ll probably be saying the same things,” he said. “I would hope that our team would be in a better situation.”