"Anti-immigrant sentiment was predominant among adherents of the Know Nothings, the Nativists, the populists and the Ku Klux Klan." Not True.

The fact that Ford is closing 10 plants in the USA to open them in Mexico sheds more light on why Americans are being sold out. We are also tired of paying for their housing and healthcare and education with our shriveling American dollar. In short, they are choking our legal citizens for their own means.Even if they earn money here it is being sent back to Mexico to the extent of 17 Billion in the past year. Look it up.

indeed, tell. how dare a middle-easterner open and successfully operate a small business in today's trying market for small business hopefuls. any employer allowing a non-american to do something worthwhile should be shamed.

at least the american male still has the corner on the meth lab market. that's just this side of bomb-making, too, if i'm following where you're goin'.

so there.

Hey,

I just heard that "DubYa" is once again promoting the "entrepreneurial spirit" of "Amer'cans". So, if what I'm reading and hearing is correct, "Amer'cans" can't compete against those "fer-in-ers" who put roofs on our houses, clean our public toilets, and otherwise pick up after us "'mericans" whose parents/grandparents were also immigrants (no doubt a bunch of them were illegal, too).

Go ahead and send 'em all back. See what a dump the US (get it, "US"?) becomes.

No sooner there's a mention of Know-Nothings and comments like this appear: "The fact that Ford is closing 10 plants in the USA to open them in Mexico...."

No, Ford is not moving plants to Mexico. Its pulling back in a $75/bar. oil world of its emphasis on gas-guzzles like the F-series pickup, the Explorer, and the Navigator, etc., because it can't compete with its current mix against automakers who make more fuel efficient autos (and make them better, I might add) - same story over decades now: management screws up, workers pay.

Immigrants do not "cost" us anything overall and in the long run. Well ... except for the dirtying and debilitating hatred by which some sully our surroundings.

As always, immigrants go where the jobs are ... and that obviously means very few for Kansas. How ironic that the nativists who declaim immigration most loudly inevitably live in places with the fewest immigrants.

You need to see all hospitals in the souther border states that are just a few miles inside US territory. THey have had to build entire wings for the pregnant women coming across the line to have their "anchor babies. It is costing these communities MILLIONS!

Thanks for the quote SWBSOW, good job!

DOes this mean that Kansas Screens those that get meidcaid, or do they "just not check".

This is agood one for a "Legislative Post Audit" and other issues that the SRS is not doing very well!!!

Any legislators out there want to get a LPA going on this and get our money back in the hands of Kansas Residents?

"I know this applies to children only but illegal immigrants don't get medicaid or medicare. Children of illegal immigrants who are themselves U.S. citizens by birth get medicaid and only up to age 19."

I wouldn't bet on that SWBSOW! I will also bet that some "conservative is emailing this to some conservative KS legislator that is going to take action on this. I will just bet!

"2. People make a lot of comments about illegal immigrants receiving benefits & I haven't seen anything to support this."

Ask the emergency room is Dodge City and Garden City about this! I would even throw in WIchita and Salina as well. The hospitals are loosing millions by providing care to these folks.

Here is some reading for the "uninformed":

http://www.cis.org/articles/2003/back1403.html

http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/back1204release.html

http://www.city-journal.org/html/14_3_immigrant_gang.html

http://www.defenders.org/border/

http://www.utexas.edu/lbj/uscir/reports.html

You need to educate yourselves. The future is looking very bleak for OUR children. The US will turn into a thrid world country, if we continue to let this slide.

http://www.wehategringos.com

http://www.numbersusa.com/interests/publicop.html

Some more from the Social Security Administration. These make your hair stand up on end!

http://www.ssa.gov/oig/ADOBEPDF/A-03-05-25127.pdf

http://www.ssa.gov/oig/ADOBEPDF/A-08-05-15073.pdf

one for the agriculture and food service:

http://www.ssa.gov/oig/ADOBEPDF/A-08-05-25023.pdf

http://www.ssa.gov/oig/ADOBEPDF/A-03-03-13048.pdf

http://www.ssa.gov/oig/office_of_audit/issueshomeland.htm

Yup, its them damn A-rabs buying up gas stations and 7/11's that making our economy trash. The illegals don't pay taxes, don't pay medical care, and on and on, but them A-rabs is whats the problem.

Lets take back all them 7/11's and gas stations so they will leave. Never mind that they pay taxes and are here legally. Let send them back to Saddam where they come from. We sure don't want them.

"Why would the emergency rooms care about the benefits illegal immigrants may or may not be getting. All the hopsitals care about is who is going to pay."

Because the "illegals" Know this, and go to the emergency room for the flu, or other non-emergency health issues and "cannot be turned away".

THAT is where they are loosing millions.

I guessed you missed the part that stated:

" nonwork SSN holder numbers are then showing up on the "working " side of the equation and receiving wages."

RED THE WHOLE THING, not just the part that agrees with you, geez. It is called "CONTEXT".

BTW, it is for DOD employees.

It shows a boatload of Non work SSN issued 5,912 were used on 19,000 w-2 submittals.

So do the math...that is fraud.

On secure installations.

WE GOTTA GET HOLD OF THIS!!!!!

Geez SWBSOW, get it in CONTEXT, please!

The second link which you did not name is "Impact of NONIMMIGRANTS who Continue working after their immigration status expires".

"NONIMMIGRANT" means that the status has been revoked, declined, or it has lapsed. Either way, they are not citizens, are not "legal immigrants" and did not leave like they should have. Hence, the term "illegal" out of this bunch too.

You really need to read the TITLE and the REPORT in its ENTIRETY.

You ain't gonna get one past me out of context.

Why the hell do you think I posted them here?

You do not understand the reports. Please read them, and consult someone who is a lot less biased than you are.

This is CLEARY about a PORTION of the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, regardless of what you may want to believe.

"Many of the terrorists that we have captured in the U.S. have been in group 2, not group 1."

Group "1" and group "2" are both "ILLEGALs", hence, should be deported or criminally held. That is the law. The reason they aren't, the Government likes to pass laws and not enforce them.

That simple.

Gotta post this again for those that are emiling this to the anti's:

"5-2006 MEDICAID/HEALTHWAVE ELIGIBILITY FACT SHEET FOR CHILDREN UNDER AGE 19

I. GENERAL REQUIREMENTS

The child must be a Kansas resident. In addition, he or she must be a U.S. citizen or a qualifying alien.

II. AGE

The child must be under the age of 19.

I know this applies to children only but illegal immigrants don't get medicaid or medicare. Children of illegal immigrants who are themselves U.S. citizens by birth get medicaid and only up to age 19."

"Don't you remember an article in the LJW no too long ago about where Kansas was being told it had to repay some of its Medicaid funds?"

Don't you think that the feds will want their money back when they audit the Kansas program and find a bunch of illegal aliens charges that are not allowed??

HMMMMM!!!!??????

We have just officially rendered a "full circle of logic" from your Circular logic SWBSOW and your liberalist atitudes that thinks the USA must have it's doors open for everyone.

However, the large amount of the people (of which my links that you DID NOT CITE) in these United States are SICK OF THE ILLEGALS, end of story, even if you are not.

Go down to south Texas, or Arizona, New Mexico. Those states are starting to stop paying for those services (adding in Colorado I may add) so the illegals are moving on to greener pastures where the Civil Servants are lazy or corrupt, hence KANSAS.

That's right sportsfans, coming to YOUR TOWN, from Cali, Texas, or Arizona.

http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/15315777.htm

They know where it is cheaper and easier, and those will be finding their way to Manhattan, JC, then Topeka, and Lawrence.... and we are not talking in levels You have seen, but levels TEXAS, Arizona, NM, and Cali have seen, You have NO CLUE!

From the article:

""The prices of the houses are too high (in California)," Trejo said. "The prices are lower here. Here it's much calmer and not such a rush. They even drive slower here."

The Trejo family is among the nearly 10,000 Hispanics who have moved into the city since 2000, according to U.S. Census numbers released last week.

They were joined by 6,669 other foreign-born people who moved to Wichita.

The increase in diversity is reflected in the hallways of every public school in Wichita and has changed the way the district does business.

For example, the number of languages spoken by district students increased from 66 to 69, and could increase again this school year, district officials said. The district is having problems finding enough qualified teachers to keep up with the population growth. It is also constantly training teachers to work with students whose native language isn't English."

The african Americans had better watch out in Wichita:

"In the school district, the number of Hispanic students has increased rapidly over the past five years, from 7,428 in 2000 to 10,132 in 2005. The number of Hispanic students could surpass the number of black students this year."

"We have too few Hispanic teachers and few administrators," he said. "We need more. Kids like to see people who look like them and are them."

Isn't that racist?

GEE SWBSOW, you have the article right, but this is NOT what the founding fathers envisioned nor was it considered a proper way to gain citizenship.

AS I said, go to SOuth Texas and see all the Hospitals on the US side of the Border putting in Maternity wings, for all the Latin AMerican women that come here to have a baby. Now just getting pregnant and crossing a border does NOT give on the right to be a citizen. NO way can you prove otherwise, I OTOH, was born to parents who were born to parents who were born to parents who were all American Citizens. Some of my Kin fought in the Rev. War, 1812 war, Civil War, and WWI.

THAT is what gave MY FAMILY the right.

http://www.cis.org/articles/cantigny/fonte.html

From Alexander Hamilton:

"Alexander Hamilton insisted that "the safety of a republic depends essentially on the energy of a common national sentiment; on a uniformity of principles and habits; on the exemption of citizens from foreign bias and prejudice; and on the love of country which will almost invariably be found to be closely connected with birth, education, and family." The ultimate success of the American republic, he maintained, depends upon "the preservation of a national spirit and a national character," among native born and immigrant alike.

Hamilton opposed granting citizenship immediately put to new immigrants: "To admit foreigners indiscriminately to the rights of citizens, the moment they foot in our country would be nothing less than to admit the Grecian horse into the citadel of our liberty and sovereignty." Instead, he recommended that we gradually draw newcomers into American life, "to enable aliens to get rid of foreign and acquire American attachments; to learn the principles and imbibe the spirit of our government; and to admit of a philosophy, at least, of their feeling a real interest in our affairs.""

Teddy Roosevelt:

"In the first place we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag, which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but one soul [sic] loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

"They were joined by 6,669 other foreign-born people who moved to Wichita."

This is code for "undocumented" (or Illegal Alien). What did you think that ment?

ANd no do not paint me with that " you think all hispanics are illegal" Bull.

The Hispanic Americans are those that assimilate and are LEGAL contributing to our society. Those that love Mexico before American or their culture before American culture, need to go back, ie they are not contributing.

"Asbestos, when did Teddy Roosevelt become a Founding Father?"

That is a know nothing post and beneath you SWBSOW

FTP let me know when your case comes up for review

OK....you forgot to take out the trash!

Let's cut to the chase: When is the Cowboy Idiot going to secure our southern border?

Why is it I'm convinced that, if the federal government was truly, genuinely serious, it could stop illegal immigration in its tracks?

swbsow:"I'm afraid, Asbestos, you have me confused with Jayhawks71..."

?????????????? Show me where he commented. Your end of the debate lost-----heavily. Now, do the backstroke.

Your first post is good enough. "2. People make a lot of comments about illegal immigrants receiving benefits & I haven't seen anything to support this."

Believe me, it is the hidden things that will be the detriment to American children for years to come. The facts are out there, thank goodness for those that dig up the truth.

Posted by janeb (anonymous) on August 20, 2006 at 6:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Immigrants work much harder and for less than those who were born and raised here. I hire them to do jobs most Citizens would not do.

Jan... I'm sick to death of hearing this ....it's a crock and I am totally offended. You don't know me (a citizen, born and raised) I work VERY Hard and have since I was 13. I often have up to 3 jobs at a time -- I will do things that others won't at wages others sneer at.

Just because you are too cheap to pay a decent wage and perfer to take advantage of people don't blame hard working Americans.

Posted by oldgranny (anonymous) on August 21, 2006 at 2:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

as_i _live_and_breath...next time its 105 then get up on top of a roof and shingle or go out and work on a highway crew. Then you can talk about hard work. *** OK Old woman..... lets talk --- I was a water meter reader for 17 years... In case you don't understand what that means.....I walked 10-20 miles a day in ALL KINDs of Kansas weather. From 110 degrees to -15 -- Rain - Wind -Dogs -and all manner of bizzare street people. I carried a metal hammer, a record book (later a computer) and a flashlight, alone, in neighborhoods many people wouldn't DRIVE through. this was before the fancy touch read system and scooters they have now. I would more often than not, have to dig the meters out before I could pull of the heavy metal lid and sometime crawl into the hole to read the meater.

I was pregnant twice in that time and worked THAT job untill my water broke both times.

For a 8 of those years, I helped a friend open his restaurant at 5:30 am (i didn't have to read meters till 8.) then I would work either a retail job or another cocktail wait job after. I also started my own business during that time.

don't judge me by your own lazy standards. I will put my work ethic up against anyone, legal or illegal.

Any other judgments you'd like to pass??

Give 'em HELL As _I_LIVE,you tell 'em!

"Snakes in the meter boxes"

sounds like a movie!

lol again with the judgements... So I'm either a lazy American who won't work or I'm a idoit with a scumbag babydaddy..... What century do you live in????

I have a wonderfull man. He didn't LET me do it.... that idea makes me laugh. I don't need a man to give me permission. I need a man who respects me and gives me credit for having the intellegence to do the right thing.

I like to work!! I like the excitement and stimulation of doing a lot of different things and meeting a different people. Reading meters was probably the best job i ever had. My doctor said walking was good for me and it was.... my both births were very easy.

My wonderful man also worked full time, did side jobs and helped raise our babies so I could do what I wanted to do.... He still does.

I'm sorry..... I seriously doubt that you can say anything to change my mind about the statement that illegal immigrants deserve special treatment because * "Immigrants work much harder and for less than those who were born and raised here."

it is a flat lie... and I and my family are proof.

I'm not saying there are not lazy americans.. perhaps you are one and can only judge others by your own experience, but I for one get deeply offended by that statmement......

Oldgranny, LAYOFF of her.

Your arguments are mean and judgemental and are personal attacks. They have NOTHING to do with the issue. YOU are the "self-rightous" one here.

I think you need to shut up!

Posted by oldgranny (anonymous) on August 21, 2006 at 8:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't remember saying anything about lazy americans

*** Sorry Granny, old timers kicking in??? let me refresh......+++ Posted by oldgranny (anonymous) on August 21, 2006 at 2:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

as_i _live_and_breath...next time its 105 then get up on top of a roof and shingle or go out and work on a highway crew. Then you can talk about hard work.

Yes, to me that implies that I don't understand hard work.... I do. and that I as an american, am lazy. I'm not. You said I could talk about hard work, I did and you felt complelled to belittle me and my poor innocent husband who has never even seen this blog. What TYPE does that make you????

You continue.....

Posted by oldgranny (anonymous) on August 21, 2006 at 8:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I fail to see how you could have had 3 jobs and raised your children well. Sounds more like you lived well beyond your means and had no other choice.

talk about self righeous!!! Jeese o'pete lady you are a walking judge, jury and executioner..... Now you are denigrating my parenting skills and my financial accumen.

just so you don't turn me into SRS like an old nosey buzybody....I didn't neccessarily have all 3 jobs and the kids at the same time..... I rotated.... and had family that helped. my kids are totally awesome and!!! both have a good work ethic as well!

As I said, I am a hard working person. I don't get free anything...so.....when janeb and people like that imply that it is American workers fault that millions of people come here to steal from us..... Yeah.... I'm offended.

You don't offend me.... you make me laugh..... I bet you can see thru a keyhole with both eyes.

Posted by oldgranny (anonymous) on August 21, 2006 at 8:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I fail to see how you could have had 3 jobs and raised your children well. S

Well granny I went to college worked 3 part time jobs and worked the museum at JCCC for a credit course in humanities and raised three kids. In addition I was on the PTO at my kids elem. school. I did not liv beyond my means it was required to survive.

You are a cantankerous ol rag ain'tcha granny? Sorry you got caught in that cross fire Asbestos... thanks

She's just mad cuz I'm here legally taking up all those jobs that illegal aliens should get to have....

For those who don't say this illegal immigration thing does not cost us anything, here is something from the Congressional Budget office:

http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/news/nation/15331885.htm

I don't like citing "wingnut daily" but they are correct on this, the race war has started....by illegal immigration.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51644

Please, somebody, anybody: close our southern border.

And while you're at it, keep out all those damn whiney-voiced Canadian pop-singers.