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The Associated Press

August 13, 2006

KANSAS CITY, KAN. — Animal control officials said 149 illegal pit bulls have been turned in or confiscated in the two weeks since the city increased its enforcement of a ban on the breed.

Mayor Joe Reardon announced July 28 that the city would temporarily waive penalties against people who turned over their pit bulls, which are illegal within city limits. The day before, a pit bull attacked 71-year-old Jimmie Mae McConnell, who later died.

The amnesty period ends today. More than two-thirds of the dogs were turned over in the first week, and animal control officials said the pace has slowed to what it was before the amnesty period.

"It's tapered off to the point where it's more manageable without all the extra resources," said Capt. Henry Horn, commander of the police department's animal control unit.

Horn said Friday that the amnesty program had successfully persuaded as many pit bull owners as possible to turn over their dogs to authorities, rather than dumping them in parks or other public places.

He also said he believes his unit has the resources to continue enforcing the city's ban.

While those who voluntarily turned in their dogs didn't get cited for violating the ban, owners who were identified through a telephone hot line were cited if officials could determine they owned a pit bull.

Some of the dogs have been sent to shelters for adoption, but many have been euthanized. That has attracted the anger of animal welfare groups and organizations that advocate on behalf of pit bulls, who criticize the city for not simply going after irresponsible owners.

The Mayor's Animal Control Task Force has also criticized the city for ignoring recommendations it made 18 months ago to improve the animal control division, questioning how the city could afford to enforce the law now.

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13 August 2006
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

The Animal Control Nazis of Kansas City, Kansas help perpetrate the same myths about “Pit Bulls” that you will find them spewing in Lawrence.

I called them just for grins and listened while one of the more junvenilte memebers of that force of Jack Booted Thugs explained to me how “Pit Bulls” actually have a physical mechanism to “lock” their jaws; sort of the reverse of a snake's ability to dsislocate jaws.

This is, of course, a lie and completely without foundation.

“Pit Bulls” are not even No. 1 on the nefarious “Bite Pressure” list; a figure for which no standardised test exists.

The odinacne says “the appearance” of a “pit bull”.

The Animal Control Nazis in KCK will sieze and kill your American Bulldog, your Presa Canario, a Boxer if is looks “pitty” and kill it.

One woman had to get three vets to write letters to the Nazis(As if they can read!) to get her bulldog back!

The Pitch did a good article:

http://www.pitch.com/Issues/2006-08-1…

Basically if the knuckle-dragging Nazis of KCK Animal Control think that your German Shepherd may have some “pit bull” in its background, they can, under the ordinance, sieze the animal and it is up to you to prove that the dog is ethnically pure!

If you cannot provide documentation, to the gas chamber goes your dog, thence to the oven!

I have it on good authority that the Lawrence version of Animal Control is watching closely to study exactly how Kansas city, Kansas is getting away with this policy and how easily it is to get folks to bring their dogs right up to the gas chamber doors.

Sort of reminds you of…………………..

Naw.

Couldn't happen here.

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Marion.
13 August 2006
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Oh. You will LOVE this one!

In the telephone interview I was also informed that the ordinance covers “dangerous dogs”.

The primary way that KCK Animal Selection determines if a dog is “dangerous” is if it barks at the animal control officer who is looking at it.

One bark; the animal is selected and off to the gas chamber, regardless of breed!

Tha Animal comtrol Nazi said that Animal Control hopes to extend the ban to Rottweillers, Doberman and “a few of the other larger breeds”.

Give'em an inch…………………..

The Thug also told me of about fiften breeds which are “nothing but “pit bulls” in disguise” and will also be targeted.

Among those breeds:

English Bulldog, American Bulldog, Presa Canario, Cane Corso, English Mastiff, Neapolitan Mastiff, Tibetan Mastiff,; bascially any dog , regardless of size which has terrier, boxer, bulldog and/or what the ignorant Animal Control Nazis THINK a pit bull looks like.

A good webpage for those of you with open minds:

http://www.happypitbull.com/myths.htm

“Dangerous” “Pit Bulls”:

http://www.happypitbull.com/Photopage…

Mistaken IDs of “Pit Bulls”:

http://www.understand-a-bull.com/BSL/…

How good are YOU at “Find The “Pit Bull”?:

http://www.understand-a-bull.com/Find…

Punish the deed, not the breed.

And have at irresponsible owners while you're at it!

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Marion.
13 August 2006
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MacHeath (Anonymous) says…

All dogs are potentially dangerous. The problem is, some dogs are capable of killing you. Pit Bulls, Rotwiellers…even Airedales, which I adore.
The problem seems rapant, especially in the KC area, mostly due to owners that have no responsibility.
I wish there was a way to make owners of all dogs legally responsible for the dogs actions. If a dog kills a person, then that owner should do the time for manslaughter.
Then mabye,even Marion would turn in that pitbull in for a little weiner dog.
14 August 2006
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Swbsow:

According to the Thugs at Kansas City, Kansas Animal Killers, if the dog in ANY way resembles a “pit bull”, the animal is subject to warrantless siezure, immediate “euthanasia” and the owner liable for criminal prosecution.

Any of the breeds and more shown here:

http://www.understand-a-bull.com/Find…

are subject.

The real reason is that KCK is scared s+++less of a major lawsuit because of the 71 woman who was killed by animals which had already been reported to the Thugs and the Thugs had done nothing.

This is a purely political “feel-good” action very much akin to the “dog cull” in China.

But then, KCK is ruled by “Progressives”, so what can be expected?

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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

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14 August 2006
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

OMB is bound by inertia and incapable of calling them as he sees them.

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15 August 2006
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

OMB:

Suggested reading for YOU:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constituti…

http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/

http://www.robertringer.com/home.php

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Marion.

15 August 2006
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BrianR (Anonymous) says…

It is unthinkable that these 'officials' actually expect people to 'turn in' their pets to be put to death.

What is even more shocking to me is that people are actually complying, what a gutless lot they are.

This is an act of tyranny by the City and should be met in kind.
15 August 2006
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BrianR (Anonymous) says…

Without (ever) going into any kind of detail, these people should be “dealt with.”
15 August 2006
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BrianR (Anonymous) says…

I wish you the best of luck. Taking a person's dog is evil in action.

I would hope that somewhere along the way, and BEFORE enacting such totalitarian laws, they've consulted Animal Control people, vets, or other experts in animal behavior and learnt that there are no intrinsically 'bad' dogs.

They could read journals, talk to 50 veterinarians or whatever it takes to get a clear, objective picture of what they're really doing. Clearly they do not or they just don't care.

Luna looks quite harmless, I hope you get her back.
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BrianR (Anonymous) says…

E,
I didn't find a reference to it on the City site but I did write the date in my planner and will follow up.
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15 August 2006
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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

Two comments:

1) I see enforcer is still jumping on Marion's band wagon as usual. No surprise.

2) I support this ban, although I think it will lead to even more inbreeding of the breed. I don't know how anyone can argue that they attack more than other dogs. Not going to get into it. Just my opinion. I don't like the idea of killing dogs, but like the idea of fewer pit bulls on the street. And you drama queens don't need to worry that they will eventually move on to even your little chihuahua. It won't fall out that way. Get real.
15 August 2006
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BrianR (Anonymous) says…

There's no drama, just what happens and what doesn't happen.

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1. “I don't know how anyone can argue that they attack more than other dogs.”

2. “I don't like the idea of killing dogs, but like the idea of fewer pit bulls on the street.”
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How do you reconcile these two statements? Does this mean that you would also support fewer Beagles, Welsh Corgis and Boston Terriers on the streets?

We do have a (harmless) big scary-looking dog and this is an issue that could effect me and my dog.

So much for the validity of your opinion.
15 August 2006
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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

I read it ten times, but that was to get through your terrible punctuation.

OK, so it's your bandwagon. I'm sorry about your dog. But you and Marion seem to share one brain, and unfortunately for you he must have gotten most of it.

I seem to remember someone on this forum that continually gets bashed for not having any support whatsoever for their comments. That person's name is….
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….enforcer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
15 August 2006
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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

BrianR-

I like dogs thanks. Almost all of them. I don't have to reconcile my statements. No reconciliation required my friend. Your comment makes no sense. They are coming after pit bulls because pit bulls maul and kill people more than other breeds. So, don't buy one.

15 August 2006
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Yes, I AM assisting Enforcer in he rfight against the civil rights violations, denials of due process which she has endured, the fight against Jerry Little, City Prosecutor, have assisted her in the filing of a complaint with the Judicial Discilplinary Committee, a complaint with the Ethics Committee, all approprite filings in the matter, through the use of my FAX/SCanner/Copier, special process service, a n appeal to the Kansas Supreme Court and other such matters as assistance may be required.

Now before you “Liberals” and “Pit Bull” haters get pennies stuck in your fuse boxes and blow off, it is NOT against ANY law, canon, regulation or rule of any court for one private citizen to assit another citizen in the appropriate filings as long as the actual plaintiff does the filings and the person assisting is in no way engaging the “pracitce” of law.

Enforcer's dog has been adjudged in a manner not permitted by City Code, due process has been denied, reversible judicial errors have been made, the City Prosecutor has had a Disorderly Conduct complaint filed against him and it is my belief that Enforcer will prevail in this matter.

I will continue to assist Enforcer in this matter until she prevails.

Thanks.

Marion.
15 August 2006
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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

Marion-I applaud you for helping a friend out in need and I won't comment on her dog because I don't know the story.

What I will say is that animals need to be considered for safety reasons no matter what kind they are. Just because they are dogs, man's best friend, doesn't mean they should still be pets if they are dangerous. It's funny how people get wrapped in defending their own civil rights and ignore other's rights. They have a right to own pit bulls until it infringes on other's rights to safety and not having their face mauled off and disfigured or even killed. Kind of like the smoking ban.

You choose to do something that infringes on someone elses rights, you get restricted. Boom, can't smoke in the restuarant. Your dog infringes on my family's safety and lives, you can't own it next door to me, my kids school, my business, etc. Doesn't mean you can't smoke anywhere else you want and it doesn't mean you can't buy any other type of dog. Just restricted.

Maybe people need to start considering others before they take certain actions and they won't be disappointed later.
15 August 2006
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Yes, indeed, the safety of human beings is paramount.

“Pit Bulls” are no more dangerous than any other breed and no more likely to bite or attack of their own accord than any other dog.

There are so many myths; the same myths promulgated in the past and present about Rottweillers, Doberman, Malemutes, German Shepherds, Dogue de Bordeaux, Presa Canario and other types of dogs which have been used for fighting in less civilised times than those in which we live.

“Locking Jaws”!

BARF!

It is written someplace; “Thou Shalt Not P+++ Off Marion!”

I have been screwed with by professionals and have prevailed in one way or the next and will continue to prevail.

Those folks who tell you that it's not about winning or losing; it's how you play the game are LYING!

Winning is everything and all there is!

That is all there has ever been and all that there ever will be.

For many years in another life I walked daily through The Valley Of The Shadow Of Death and I did learn that in order to Fear NO Evil, one MUST become the meanest mofo in the valley and if properly provoked, I can become that selfsame.

Mess with me; my family or my friends and I am become Shiva; the Destroyer of Worlds; I am the Celt, blue of face, I am become The Berserker of Nordic legend, I am The Golem; come to protect the Ghetto, I am the Burning Man.

If Thine Eye Offends Me, I will not only take that eye but its brother as well.

I will not trade one of my teeth for one of yours but rather all of your teeth and the jaws which held them.

I become my own Covenant, Sword And Arm.

I do not forgive and never forget.

Why?

Leah, blown up in a sidewalk cafe in the Middle East may have just a bit to do with it.

The cruelties, injustices and horrors of the world, which most of you will never see have a bit to do with it.

People like myself understand that although we may lose battles, we will never lose the war.

On the other hand, if you are my freind, I will go hungry so that you might eat, I will live in a tent so that you might live in a house, I will drink urine so that you might drink water; I can be the best freind that you will ever have and if YOU choose, the worst enemy that you will ever know.

I seek and hope for only freinds.

And by the way, if I run a joint which allows smoking and you don't like smoking……stay the hell out of my joint!

Thanks.

Marion.
15 August 2006
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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…

I've suspected for a long time that Enforcer is a lapdog of Marion. Too often it seems as if Marion posts and then Enforcer jumps in as a 'Yes Man'.

As far as Marion's 6:50 post…. looks like someone is well into that second bottle of scotch.
15 August 2006
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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…

This is from Beatrice's post of last night in regards to Maniac…

“Marion, was one of your failed business adventures gasket manufacturing? I'm guessing that is why you now have a seemingly endless supply of gaskets, as you seem to blow one or two just about every day. Most of us can't afford to replace them that often.

Chill out already and realize that we are simply sharing our thoughts here in this modern means of conversation — kind of like being electronic pen pals with strangers. We are not here to SCREAM at one another in a completely immature manner when we don't like what someone else writes.

Besides, I can't help but to think of Woody Allen's response to someone quoting Marshall McLuhan in “Annie Hall.” Plus, McLuhan published this about 40 years ago, so it isn't like you are saying anything new. And to be yelling it? Geez. Get over yourself already.”
15 August 2006
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naijagirl (Anonymous) says…

It's surprising that no one noticed (or maybe no one wants to comment) rightthinker's (a major misnomer when taken literally) and Marion's first few comments. Everytime I decide you have made a marginal attempt to redeem yourselves, you slither right back down to the bottom of that pit. That “breed”! “Ghetto Cruiser”?! Wow! I need time to recoup.
15 August 2006
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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…

Niajagirl - There are some regular posters on this board who are racists. You picked a couple. Actually, they made themselves easily known.
15 August 2006
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Sorry, folks; not a “racist” bone in my body.

TOB:

I do not drink Scotch, nor have I been drinking.

Your problem is that you cannot handle anything but Namby-pamby and most certainly, not the truth.

Swbsow:

You forget, Dear Girl, I am the ADMIN of that “other site” and have access to the weblogs.

Naijagirl:

“Ghetto Cruiser” is a slang or dialectical term applied to certain types of automobiles.

It is NOT a “racist” term!

OMB:

You want “bile”?

I can show you “bile”.

Your problem is that any “bile” that I would show you would be so subtle that it would go right past your narro Pseudo-liberal/Neo-socialist mind; if it might be called that.

Further, I suspect that you are incapable of passion, commitment, dedication and integrity.

Swbpig:

I will “scream” at anyone I wish in order to get their attention, drive home a point or to clearly demonstrate that the object of the volume is an irrecoverable idiot.

swbpig:

YO!

Beatch!

You got a “scroll” and a “back” feature on your box?

If you do not like my posts, do not read my posts.

Now one is twisting you little pink tail.

Thanks.

Marion.

15 August 2006
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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…

“I once had some of that “breed” crunch me the rear of an old Dodge 4 dr 1 ton that had a very large trailer coupler on the back.” Marion Sydney Lynn

No one was talking about ghetto crusier. Racist.

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swbsow - Good lord. All he does is trick people to go to his site so he can rack up hits for advertisements. Of which, you shall notice since you got there, he has very few.
15 August 2006
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

TOB:

I recieve not a farthing or a threp'ny bit for the links I have put up on my site.

Those links are there because those folks are my friends and I make nothing from webhits.

As it happens, I do shop at The Merc now and again.

What will you do if I link to The Merc website?

I'll get that done tomorrow and we'll find out!

swbsow:

You are a lying sack of poo-poo.

You have been on RCT for some time.

RCT “captures” no more information about participants than other websites and a lot less than most.

I normally just delete the weblogs as I don't care for the most part but when I get a whacko working the site, I will look around.

You is worth watching.

Thanks.

Marion.
15 August 2006
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naijagirl (Anonymous) says…

I remember mentioning a month or so ago that empty barrels make the loudest noise. Hence the constant yapping from Marion's corner of the yard.

rightthinker referred to the “breed down in the heart of KCK that should be on that list.” Please let me know how else to interpret that. And then explain how you agreeing with him and providing further justification for the elimination of this “breed” is not racist. What frightens me is that people like you masquerade as upstanding members of society. You could be my neighbour. Ick!
15 August 2006
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

swbpig:

One either supports Free Speech or one does not.

The purpose of the First Amendment is not to protect “popular” speech but that which is unpopular!

Unless a post contains a very specific call to illegal action I will not censor that board.

I would not even censor you.

Thanks.

Marion.
16 August 2006
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Agnostick (Anonymous) says…

I applaud the efforts of KC officials to remove dangerous pit bulls from residential areas where they are not properly enclosed, caged, maintained etc. If the owners of these dogs are not going to take proper care and responsibility of that property, then they forfeit their rights to said property. “Rights” and “responsibility” go hand-in-hand.

Here's another interesting aspect of all this. This isn't government; this is business.

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/nation…

http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/insu…

http://www.mostchoice.com/news-3650-n…

In the community where I live, it is illegal to own a pit bull, Staffordshire terrier, or other related breeds. When I see one of these dogs, I whip out the cell phone and call it in.

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Agnostick
agnostick@excite.com
16 August 2006
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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…

Hey Snippy! I'm the one that called you labdog to that racist scumsucker, Marion Sydney Lynn.

I still can't believe the LJW is allowing his and rightthinker's overtly racist comments to remain on this thread. I suppose it means the LJW condones that type of nonsense.
16 August 2006
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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

Well, I already knew that I did not agree with 99% of Marion's comments, but that just jumped up and over the century mark with these current posts! I dub thee “Sir Schmuck”, aka “Sir Head-Up-His-Arse”! I know you are entitled to your opinion, I just hope you keep it to yourself more often than not.
16 August 2006
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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

Posted by The_Original_Bob (anonymous) on August 16, 2006 at 9:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey Snippy! I'm the one that called you labdog to that racist scumsucker, Marion Sydney Lynn.

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Sounds like they need to ban lapdogs now!!!

16 August 2006
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

I still cahllenge you to find and reprint my “racist” comments.

I have made this challenge several times on this forum and no one has chosen to meet it!

Why?

Because I do not make “racist” comments, that's why!

If you think otherwise, dig up those comments which you believe to be “racist” and I will deal with your cahllenge.

In the meantime, the challenge stands.

Thanks.

Marion.
16 August 2006
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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…

“I once had some of that “breed” crunch me the rear of an old Dodge 4 dr 1 ton that had a very large trailer coupler on the back.” Marion Sydney Lynn

Now, get that shovel you use, and start digging a deeper hole explaining how referring to black people as a “breed” is not racist. This ought to be pure entertainment.
16 August 2006
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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…

Come on in, Enforcer!!! Back your boy up!!! You were a little slow today. 3 minutes????
16 August 2006
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

TOB wrote:

“Posted by The_Original_Bob (anonymous) on August 16, 2006 at 10:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

“I once had some of that “breed” crunch me the rear of an old Dodge 4 dr 1 ton that had a very large trailer coupler on the back.” Marion Sydney Lynn

Now, get that shovel you use, and start digging a deeper hole explaining how referring to black people as a “breed” is not racist. This ought to be pure entertainment.”

Marion writes:

I did not write that post about “black people”.

Further the term “breed” used in connection with specific groups or individuals falls well within the guidelines of acceptable use of the language without any “racist” implications.

I give you the following phrases:

“A new breed of man/woman…”

“A special breed of man/woman…”

“It takes an unusual breed of man/woman to…..”

Evidently the term “breed” may be used only under very certain and specific circumstances, according to you folks!

NOW………………………………………………….

If I had written, “I'se drivin' in my four-door lac-lac-wanna-be-Dodge when five n+++a homies tried to play Ghetto 500 in they pimped-up short” or the like, you might have found something that you could concieveably term “racist” in that post.

I did not write that.

Further, the term “Ghetto Cruiser” is a term which applies to automobiles, not people and has itself morphed into the term “Cruiser”; a description used by many ethnic groups in a quite complimentary manner.

“Ghetto Cruiser” originated in the late sixties and early seventies as the result of customising cars into a very specific configuration; contintental kits, padded vinyl tops, mohair interiors, fake sidepipes; I refer you to the first of these cars, 1957 Chevy El Morroco:

http://www.car-nection.com/yann/Dbas_…

The Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham Talisman was a factory-built response to this trend:

http://www.libertysoftware.be/cml/myc…

Here you may notice the E7G Classics conversion of the El Dorado into what is termed a “pimpmobile”; yet another term without “racist” connotation:

http://www.libertysoftware.be/cml/myc…

In point of fact, such cars were indeed favoured by pimps and drug dealers of all ethnic groups in the 60s and 70s and to some extent, still are:

http://www.libertysoftware.be/cml/myc…

NOW………………………..

“Would you like to play a game, Dave?”

I'll let you go for three out of five!

Thanks.

Marion.
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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…

Dig deeper Old Man!!!
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Ooops!

E&G conversion:

http://www.car-nection.com/cadillacda…

How many “racist” terms can you find here?:

http://mangans.blogspot.com/2004/03/c…

“Pimpmobile” definitions:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define…

“Ghetto Cruiser” definitions:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define…

You people need to get over your “White Guilt” and get lives!

Thanks.

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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

Marion writes:

I did not write that post about “black people”.

Further the term “breed” used in connection with specific groups or individuals falls well within the guidelines of acceptable use of the language without any “racist” implications.

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I'm totally not buying that truckload of shiz you just dropped, Marion. Please point us in the direction of where we can find this list of acceptable uses of language.

I don't think the ghetto cruiser referenence was the primary offense. I, myself, don't believe that has racial connotations to it, but rather speaks of certain styles of cars as you describe. I think the reference to breed was the offender, and rightly so. I see an undercurrent in your postings that lead me to believe the intent of your comment was out of line, especially when you turn right around and throw down some wanna-be ebonics type words.

…and here comes enforcer to the (pitiful attempt of a) rescue
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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

pitiful, and irrelevant

16 August 2006
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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

pitiful, and irrelevant (was to enforcer)

I'm seeing a nice lack of response time from these two this morning. Maybe enforcer needs to get her hands out of Marion's shorts so she can type with two hands and Marion can pay attention.
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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…

Wow. Enforcer has hopped in the hole with Marion. Makes sense.
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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

I'm seeing an attempt at diversion by enforcer from Marion to lame poetry, but whatever. The damage has been done. Marion opened his mouth and spewed forth crap and it is forever emblazened in his posts here. No need to argue, it is now in the printed form.
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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

lame
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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

pathetic
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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

weak
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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

enforcer
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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

Marion's words

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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

I see these two as the type of people that would go out and run into each other in their cars as a scheme to get insurance money.

I see it now~~~~~~~goes into dream sequence-

Marion and enforcer driving through the Merc parking lot in their respective ghetto cruisers. Marion has a picture of himself strapped into the passenger seat and an “RCT” magnet on the side of the doors. enforcer has a blow up passenger strapped into her front seat to ward off attackers since she can't take care of herself, and a big mean dog in the back seat trying drooling over the sight of the elderly woman in the next car.

Next thing, smacko!!!!!! What a surprise they crash into each other! Marion says, “Oh, my back”! enforcer says, “Oh, my head”! $$$$ flows in from insurance. Marion spends his paying people to read his website and enforcer buys another dog and some more lube.
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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

yeah, I could swb, but I'm not feeling poetic. Felt like writing a short narrative instead.
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Agnostick (Anonymous) says…

Dogs? What dogs?
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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

You are out of it enforcer. Where did anyone claim to know anything about poetry. Truly a world class moron! Give me your address and I'll send you a trophy!
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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

Come back when you have something to add, enforcer. The problem with puzzles constructed by idiots is that they cut the pieces independently of each other and none of them fit together to form anything comprehensible.

I see Marion has no further justification or explanation for “breed”. Too bad. I am truly sad for bigots. What a sad life to have.
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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…

A lost cause when someone is exposed as racist is when a white person says, “But, I have black friends.” Apparently, “I can cut and past poetry from black poets,” is as close as Enforcer can get.
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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…

And, no, I can't spell. cut and paste.
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powershopper (Anonymous) says…

enforcer: You truly are an idiot. The voice of the poems you just cut and pasted are meant to embody the black experience through the voice of people who have lived it. These authors aren't promoting any type of stereotype or stating it is okay but telling a story of the black experience. Something you obviously don't know too much about. You have totally misinterpreted the meaning of these poems. Further more, perhaps you should spend some time learning how to spell Maya Angelou. At least then you would be able to find her books in the library.

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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

Posted by swbsow (anonymous) on August 16, 2006 at 11:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I've got it! The pattern here is that Enforcer has cut & pasted black poetry in reverse alphabetical order based on the poets' last names.

Very clever, Enforcer. I applaud your brillance!

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I hope your applause is only that of a one-armed man, because enforcer doesn't deserve more than that.
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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

Whoa, wait! I was so wrapped up in all of these great poetic postings and life lessons form enforcer that I totally forgot Marion made a bigoted remark.

Not really. Come on back, Marion, and try another attempt at justifying “breed”.
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daddax98 (Anonymous) says…

powershopper you hit it on the head
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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

Have we lost focus of the topic here? That pit bulls are bad? How could enforcer forget about the topic of dogs when hers is sitting at her side? Oh wait, it isn't anymore. hehe.
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powershopper (Anonymous) says…

Thanks Daddax98. Enforcer never ceases to amaze me with her ignorance. I am amazed she is using a Maya Angelou poem to endorse racism. Good god!

Marion is actually a very intelligent person and says things to just ruffle peoples feathers. I don't believe he truly is racist. He is more of an agitator and has received the reaction he intended. Enforcer on the other hand is so dumb that she actually thinks Marion is being serious.
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powershopper (Anonymous) says…

I don't believe in tact. I prefer to get right to the point. In this case, you are a racist pig.
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powershopper (Anonymous) says…

Can you please enlighten us as to why you posted the poetry?
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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

Powershopper, I understand that Marion stirs the pot just to see the reaction. But, you still have to call him out for his comments. And I agree about enforcer. She needs to ride the short bus to the ward for another round of electroshock therapy.

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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Having successfully disposed of the issue of “racism”, I am now confronted with being “uncomplimentary”!

How quaint.

To set the record straight, if any of thought that I had anything “complimentary” to say about a gold plated, twice-piped, metal flake painted, low-ridin' '78 Chevy Caprice full of scrub-wearin', shower cap capped, bejewelled of the teeth, junior achievement gansta wannbes, please disabuse yourselves of that notion right away!

OK.

Is it “racist” or is it “uncomplimentary”?

Round Three; now for three out of five.

I am 2.

You all are 0.

Ladies and Gentlemen!

Start your engines!

Thanks.

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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

You sidetracked no one enforcer. You aren't that smart. From the get go, people were saying you were irrelevant.

“Posted by i_have_only_valid_opinions (anonymous) on August 16, 2006 at 11:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

pitiful, and irrelevant”

There were others too. Don't pat yourself on the back just yet. And then It wasn't you who turned the conversation back, was it?

“Posted by i_have_only_valid_opinions (anonymous) on August 16, 2006 at 12:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Have we lost focus of the topic here? That pit bulls are bad? How could enforcer forget about the topic of dogs when hers is sitting at her side? Oh wait, it isn't anymore. hehe.”

What else do you want to claim or take credit for? Marion's bigotry?
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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

Marion, I'm only seeing where you are 2 for 2 in the sense that you are blind in both eyes.
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powershopper (Anonymous) says…

enforcer: it is “clan” not “klan”. I like the Freudian slip though; lets us all know where your mind is.

Marion: No joke, I really think you are funny as sh*t!
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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

Hey enforcer! Your buddy Marion is still off track. You guys need to synch up with each other. You're arguing that we got off track and it's your buddy that pointed the bigoted conversation that way. I thought you were conjoined at the head?
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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

Powershopper, nice catch. I missed that and it's pretty funny (read:freudian).
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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

But the dumb theory has been proven without a doubt.

Peace out! Lunch calls.

(for enforcer, that means “bye for now”!)
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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…

“enforcer: it is “clan” not “klan”. I like the Freudian slip though; lets us all know where your mind is.”

Oh, this is rich.

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Marion Sydney Lynn must have something on the LJW. How rightthinker gets vamooshed and Marion's hateful, racist remark remains is puzzling.

Good job, LJW. 1/2 way there.

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powershopper (Anonymous) says…

enforcer: I am not buying it for a minute. You are the master of excuses…after the fact. You can try to back pedal all you like, but we're not buying it.

Additionally, I don't have to admit shiite. However, I would like to know what your definition of “klan” like behavior is? I seriously doubt anybody on this blog makes a habit of wearing pillow cases over their heads, or burning crosses in people's front yards.
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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…

“I added Klan with a “K” for the fun of it,” Enforcer

Wow! Unfn'believable.
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powershopper (Anonymous) says…

you are so incosequenstial, use the dictionary yourself if you cannot corelate your behavior with that of the Klan.

By reading your post, enforcer, I have determined it is you who, in fact, needs to reference a dictionary. Did YOU ever graduate from sixth grade?
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BS20 (Anonymous) says…

If they ban Boxers im moving

*It's not the dog, it's the owner*
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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…

OMB - True enough. I'm thinking that someone is on vacation at the LJW. Somehow, no matter how much hate and bigotry Marion Sydney Lynn spews, he gets to stay. Remember E_M? He got busted out for a dirty joke.
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Agnostick (Anonymous) says…

You're all acting like a bunch of Macacas! :p

http://www.cnn.com/2006/politics/08/1…

ooo-ooo-aaa-aaa-ooo!

Agnostick
agnostick@excite.com
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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

Me thinks Marion = LJW administrator. Freedom of speech without being banned and creating controversy so people post more.
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powershopper (Anonymous) says…

I wouldn't argue with you on that one, opinions!

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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

And enforcer is just dumb enough to be Fred Phelps.
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powershopper (Anonymous) says…

lol opinions.
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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…

IHOVO - Marion is unfortunately a real, live person. For comedy's sake… type his name into the LJW “search” function and look at some articles.
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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

TOB - Unfortunately I think I knew that already. I was just hoping that maybe he wasn't a real person. I don't think I have time to research him. Seems like I could poke myself in the eyes for a few minutes and be better served.
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betti81 (Anonymous) says…

Enforcer: It seems whenever someone calls you out for misusing a word, stating a source that does not exist or spewing crap disguised as facts, your answer is always an insult followed by instructions for the person to do the research themselves. My recommendation, find a new tactic because every time you do this, we all know you are being untrue and/or have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

And Marion, no matter what you try to say to the contrary, your comments paired with those of rightthinker were racist. And quite sad.

That said, I am sad KCK is euthanizing dogs.
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BrianR (Anonymous) says…

RT got banned? That's not ok. RT was often ascerbic but I didn't find him particularly nasty or mean unless people messed with him. Naturally, I haven't read all of his posts because time is a really finite resource and I have to pick my discussions carefully but banned?!?
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

class

Class

claaaassssssssssss!

Let's get back on track here people!

More on Breed Specific Legislation; why it does NOT work!:

http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbu…

Showing that cities are banning more than one breed:

http://www.rott-n-chatter.com/rottwei…

The TRUTH about the AKC and UKC:

http://www.naiaonline.org/articles/ar…

Germany gets it ALL wrong!:

http://www.saveourbreeds.org.uk/bans.htm

Take a look and read the links.

Thanks.

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ForThePeople (Anonymous) says…

And enforcer is just dumb enough to be Fred Phelps.

Good one….but Fred is actually too smart to be enforcer and this explains why…….

Enforcer: It seems whenever someone calls you out for misusing a word, stating a source that does not exist or spewing crap disguised as facts, your answer is always an insult followed by instructions for the person to do the research themselves. My recommendation, find a new tactic because every time you do this, we all know you are being untrue and/or have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

And enforcer is after all using Marion as an attorney….Fred has a whole army of them and would have already won this battle!!!

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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…

Brian R -

Rightthinker was banned because of a racist post. 8/14 8:41 Marion “The Racist” Sydney Lynn responded with gleeful passion and echoed Rightthinker's racism. For some inexplicable reason, RT gets vaporized and the oft hateful and now out of the closet racist, Marion, gets to keep posting.
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

ForThePeople:

I would suggest that you change your username to “Formyself” as you have little to contribute to any discussion save nonsensical attacks and verbal abuse.

Be that as it may, here are a few more links which explain why Breed Specific Legislation is a bad idea:

http://www.pbrc.net/breedspecific.html

http://www.dogwatch.net/

http://www.dogplay.com/Articles/MyArt…

http://www.canismajor.com/orgs/ovdo/b…

Thanks.

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ForThePeople (Anonymous) says…

Oh BTW….since the topic is about banning pitbulls….I will add my opinion. I owned a pitbull many years ago and though I agree with what was said about owners taking responsibility, I do believe that that breed of dog was bred to attack and it is an inherent trait they all have. Therefore unless the community consist of only consenting adults…I feel it is in the best interest of children residing in any given community, that pitbulls be BANNED.
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

I'm sorry that I did not make myself clear!

I am bulletproof in that regard.

You can p+++ me of but neither you nor anyone else can “bruise” my ego.

I was referring to your nasty comments towards OTHER posters!

“Before my body
I throw my warlike shield. Lay on, Macduff,
And damn'd be him that first cries, 'Hold, enough!”

Scene VII, “MacBeth”.

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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Oh, sorry; Act V, Scene VII.

Typo.

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ForThePeople (Anonymous) says…

Well then perhaps you'd like to do her “research” for her when she post falicies and refuses to admit she's wrong!
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

ForThePeople:

Uh, that's “fallacies”.

And I don't think that Enforcer is wrong all that often.

Thanks.

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atat_at_at_at (Anonymous) says…

Wait a minute, Marion is a guy?
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ForThePeople (Anonymous) says…

Sorry…was distracted, thanks so much for correcting that for me!

Well a couple months back she made a comment on another thread that I know for a fact was incorrect and she couldn't/wouldn't come up with her proof. She insists to this day that she posted the state info, however what she did post, didn't verify her statement.

Again I have an inside resource to the information that she insisted was a fact and actually was NOT. Therefore she is spreading lies on a public forum!
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75x55 (Anonymous) says…

Like John Wayne.
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

observer:

You TOUGH, gurl!

I am tall, slim, have steely-blue eyes, silver haired and strikingly handsome.

I shoulda been in pictures!

I would have loved to see that plan come together!

I work well with animals:

http://www.rivercitytalk.com/forum/ga…

Three months later, I am still working well with the same animal:

http://www.rivercitytalk.com/forum/ga…

Not nearly as good looking as this guy:

http://www.rivercitytalk.com/forum/ga…

Oh, yeah….myself:

http://media.6newslawrence.com/img/on…

75x55:

Thank you!

Thanks.

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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Ya see, OMB is so stupefyingly ignornat (Jealous, maybe?) that he/she/it still believes that I get paid for running “that other site”!

Nothing could be further from the truth, as I have said many times.

I fund it myself and occasionally someone sends a few bucks along to help pay for hosting.

OMB is being disingenuous as per usual, ignoring the facts in many of the links posted and knows that any self-respecting dog would probably chew off OMB's ankle at the merest sight ofhim/her/it!

Ya see, OMB cannot deal with issues.

Why?

We are uncertain as to the cause of this disability but we have found similar disabilites in those affected by overindulgence in spirit, herb, chemicals and excessive web surfing in the right (or wrong!) places.

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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…

Enforcer -

You should quit posting. You now just posted that the Pit Bill ban is akin to the Holocaust? Egads.
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powershopper (Anonymous) says…

enforcer - a holocaust is the mass murder of humans by other humas. Examples of this are the Jewish Holocaust during WWII or the Cambodian Holocaust in the late 70's and early 80's.

Comparing the ban of Pitbulls, a dog proven by empirical evidence to be unusually dangerous to humans (and other dogs), to the holocaust is laughable as well as an insult to those who have survived one.

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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

Marion -

In regards to correcting other people's spelling mistakes:

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone!

You have as many or more spelling errors and typos as anyone. Get over your self. I also can't believe that your name appears in as many quotes as it does in the newspaper. Why would anyone keep asking your opinion? My guess is that you are shoving it down their throats and they despise you for it.
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badger (Anonymous) says…

You guys gotta stop posting like this.

I'm all out of popcorn.
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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

enforcer -

The justified and humane euthanizing of 100 dogs is nothing close to a holocaust. A holocaust is an “unjust massive slaughter”. Here we have a just and limited control procedure occurring.

As for your dog, even if it isn't mean I worry about the competency of the owner. And isn't that what you say causes bad dog behaviour?
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biggunz (Anonymous) says…

marion looks like that dude in Airplane.
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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…

Lew Alcindor or Leslie Neilson?
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prospector (Anonymous) says…

The autopilot?
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acg (Anonymous) says…

You guys are killing me with this thread. I love it!!

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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Well, for whateaver it is worth, dog owners in Europe generally and Germany specifically are calling the results of the draconian laws there a “Dog Holocaust”.

Again, folks, please remember……..I didn't write, I only read it!

Dog Holocaust:

http://www.angelfire.com/biz6/dogholo…

Dogs and their woners have some really bad problems there!

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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

Marion? Woners? What is a woner? Oops, looks like you shouldn't have been too quick to correct other people's spelling this morning, huh? Like I said yesterday, get over yourself.
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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

Hey LJW! Why the hell did you remove my post? Because enforcer said too? Or Marion? Grow some nuts and make decisions for yourself. There was nothing in those posts that was out of line. Thank you.

Oh, I forgot Marion is running the show here. He has so much power!
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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

For those who missed it, all I said in my post was that enforcer re-inforced (no pun intended) my point that a holocaust is a massive slaughter and the killing of 100 dogs does not justify the use of the term.

Let's see if they remove this repeat post.
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biggunz (Anonymous) says…

he was also the cop in Naked Gun.
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

IHOVO:

Yes, unless I very carefully edit my posts; for which I rarely have time, errors result.

I am quite dyslexic and have only nine fingers; conditions which lead to more typos than I would like.

You see, when I correct the spelling of others I do so because they do NOT know how to properly spell the word in question; I do but may not be able to always get the word on paper because I can transpose letters and it looks just fine to me!

I wonder why they did remove your post but I don't remember what you had said so it must not have been significant.

I don't believe that I have “suggested removal” more than two or thre times and those were a long time back and see no real reason to do so; Free Speech and all that.

Breed Specific Legislation does not solve the people problem and as has been shown in my links, disgusting people who fight dogs simply switch to another breed when the breed d'jure is banned.

Ya gotta fix the people not kill all the animals.

Thanks.

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biggunz (Anonymous) says…

please disperse…there is nothing to see hear!!
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biggunz (Anonymous) says…

uh-oh, caught the spelling error before the spelling police got me. should have been spelled H-E-R-E.

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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

Well, I agree that they will find other dogs to fight. But, if we are putting the blame on the owners here, we can see that some owners aren't responsible enough to handle these pets and train them correctly. No matter the source there are mean dogs on the street. Since we can't go door-to-door with a questionnaire and ask people if they will be good dog owners before they buy a pit bull, the only option is to ban them all together. Sucks for those people who already own them, but still the best alternative.

In conjunction with the ban their needs to be heavier punishment for dog fighting and stricter laws regarding the containment and actions of your pets. The ban by itself is not the answer.

The bottom line is that human life is more important than that of a few dogs.
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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…

“You see, when I correct the spelling of others I do so because they do NOT know how to properly spell the word in question; I do but may not be able to always get the word on paper because I can transpose letters and it looks just fine to me!” Marion Syndy Lynn

Just wanted to take a look at that statement again. Ye Gods. Comedy is at its highest levels today.
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Sure, there is much more to see about Breed Specific Legislation and why it does not work:

http://www.animallaw.info/articles/ar…

BSL in Canada:

http://www.goodpooch.com/BSL/cdnbsl.htm

Animal Farm Foundation position statement:

http://www.animalfarmfoundation.org/t…

BSL covers many breeds, not only “pit bulls”:

http://bless-the-bullys.tripod.com/id…

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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

Your lucky, biggunz. Marion would have eaten you for dinner on that.

And I forgot, Marion - boo hoo.
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Ah, yes!

TOB is out of intellectual ammuntion again so he/she/it resorts to Ad Hominem attacks!

Tsk, tsk.

Very bad form! (In stage British accent!)

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crazyks (Anonymous) says…

IHOVO,
Killing dozens of dogs that have never done any harm to anybody, just because they happen to be of a particular breed, isn't “unjust slaughter”??

No, it isn't people that it's being done to this time. But any society that will do this kind of thing to animals could possibly do it to humans. Just as anybody that will abuse an animal will also abuse people.
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southerngirl (Anonymous) says…

Badger- popcorn…you gave me a laugh with that one.

The score of this tennis match currently stands at no love. Someone else will have to keep score now. In lieu of Drew Carey (where has he been!?) I offer 1,000 points to everyone for pure entertainment value.
I have to go get kids at school, TTFN …
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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

Posted by crazyks (anonymous) on August 17, 2006 at 1:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

IHOVO,
Killing dozens of dogs that have never done any harm to anybody, just because they happen to be of a particular breed, isn't “unjust slaughter”??

I'm not saying I like it, and I'm not saying it's pretty. I was pointing out to enforcer that her use of the holocaust was incorrect. Mainly because this isn't “massive” killing. It is by no means massive and therefore does not fit the description of holocaust. That was my point. Not just vs. unjust. Not wrong vs. right?

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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

Yeah, I am seeing all that now ForThePeople. She truly is an idiot in every sense of the word. I will now join your club of not wasting time on her or her nonsense.

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rednekbuddha (Kelly Powell) says…

they over threw this law….They could not find one expert ready to confirm breed specific danger…..They will force you to neuter though(99% of the time a good idea)
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

AS far as I am concerned, if the Europeans who know a lot more about “Holocausts” than any of you wnat to call the massive dog slaughters going on there a “Holocaust”, it is fine with me!

Go argue with them!

Dog Holocaust:

http://www.angelfire.com/biz6/dogholo…

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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Certainly got quiet, didn't it?

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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

OMB:

“Enter” key problem, there, Bud?

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crazyks (Anonymous) says…

“The justified and humane euthanizing of 100 dogs is nothing close to a holocaust. A holocaust is an “unjust massive slaughter”. Here we have a just and limited control procedure occurring.”

This is the part of your post that I find disagreeable. I fail to see how euthanizing any dog that has never harmed anyone can be “justified” at all. They are only doing this because the dogs just happen to be of a particular breed, not because they have done anything.

A just and limited control procedure? What exactly is so just about it?

If KC was the only place this was occuring, it would be bad enough. But it's not. There are other communities across the country that are doing the same thing.
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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…

Marion:

Please excuse yourself from the US and go live in Europe then.

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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Ah!

Such truly “liberal” and “progressive” solutions you express, IHOVO!

Are you one of the “Love it or leave it crowd?”

Ya just can't STAND it when ya gets shown up, can ya?

The “diversity” of Lawrence!

bawhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

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badger (Anonymous) says…

Marion, you know angelfire's a vanity site, right? Like geocities? That site expresses the opinions of one person, maybe a small group, but it by no means 'speaks for' a large population of European dog owners.

Basically, that's just some guy's website who has appropriated the phrase 'dog holocaust' to describe something he personally objects to. Maybe he's found some media references to the phrase, or maybe it's what all his friends call it, or maybe he's the anti-dog-holocaust militia, but your implication that this is how 'European dog owners' view it is ridiculous, unless you have some references (besides more vanity sites) that indicate the phrase is in wide use in Europe.

That link is no better a reference than

the

other

site

you

constantly

pimp.

omb - the question about China is a good one. What about the destruction of thousands of dogs in a fit of mass hysteria? If the killing of dozens of dogs is a 'massive slaughter' or a 'dog holocaust', then what on earth do you call what happened there?
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jupraven (Anonymous) says…

I believe that you are in the realm of ridiculousness swbsow…. I mean killing off innocent animals; because of the actions of another? Sounds pretty ridiculous to me! Follow me if you will, and try to keep up:
So, if a family has say 5 children, and one of them should hypothetically murder someone….. would you go and punish or kill the other family members????????????
I thought NOT!
Now then, are dogs not members of the animal kingdom? Same as people?
I thought SO!
So, how can ANY of you people apply any logical rationale for what is happening to these dogs?
If a person kills a K-9 officer of the law, then that person goes to JAIL for Murder!!!! How is killing another dog any different?????
If a dog has an issue, then take that up with the dog, and its respective caretaker! If not, then how about offering some obedience classes for pet and owner!
How about some constructive solutions sometime!?!?!
All you guys are doing is beating each other up! Might be fun, but you aren't accomplishing s**t for either side.
Have you all gone completely mental?
No offense intended to anyone posting here, but can anyone honestly say that THEY, themselves are ready to look into 150+ dogs' eyes, and put them to sleep????
Doubtful.
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badger (Anonymous) says…

And, weighing in for the hysterics, we have jupraven and an impressive contingent of punctuational heavyweights!
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

swbsow:

I did not say this was a “Holocaust”!

What I said was that europeans are saying that what is going on in Europe is a “Holocaust”.

Interesting that any link I post is regarded as without credence, any site is “discredited” because of who put it up.

No link, no site, no source is EVER good enough!

This is NOT about the veracity of my sources but rather is about discrediting me, personally.

Why?

I'm right, that's why and I tell the turty and to quote a move line(Sort of!), “They can't handle the truth!”

The purpose of what is going on is indeed to wipe out certain breeds, period.

There is always a slippery slope and the Breed Specific Legislation people are pushing breeds down it.

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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

I see that OMB is having difficulty with his “Enter” key again.

I suggest the purchase of a new keyboard.

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Marion.
18 August 2006
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Oh and funny on ME!

“truty” should read “truth”!

Picked a bad day to quit smoking!

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prospector (Anonymous) says…

More hysteria about these sweeties from my google search.

http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/…

Headline
Pit bulls have earned their bad reputation

The Virginian-Pilot
Â© October 6, 2005

“…A spokeswoman for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention told me Monday that about 12 people a year die in the United States as the result of dog bites. Let's do the math, shall we? We know of four killed by pit bulls so far. If there are a dozen fatalities by the end of the year, it will mean at least one-third were caused by pit bulls.

Just a coincidence? Nope. Year after year pit bulls and Rottweilers are responsible for most of the fatal dog bites in this country….”

“…Even PETA People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals supports banning pit bulls and destroying those in shelters….”

Number don't lie!

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betti81 (Anonymous) says…

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article…

o_m_b

this is the result of the situation you posted.
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Sbwsow:

Uh, that's “berserk”.

And you're too late!

The Berserker:

http://www.angelfire.com/realm/shades…

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ForThePeople (Anonymous) says…

Spreading lies and hatred again…I can't believe the JW has let you get away with slander for so long!
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ForThePeople (Anonymous) says…

Do we know the word this defines…..a person who tells lies? I'll give you a hint…it has four letters.
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ForThePeople (Anonymous) says…

Sounds to me like your the stalker….since you claim to know about posters personal lives including my own in a previous thread….and you know nothing about me….I could be swbsows spouse, for all you know!
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ForThePeople (Anonymous) says…

Don't you know?
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ForThePeople (Anonymous) says…

Now I'm done with your stupidity for one day….I'll wait for a thread that actually matters. You have done a nice job of keeping this one bumped for you own selfish reasons….I'll give you that!
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ForThePeople (Anonymous) says…

hahahaha….you just proved you know nothing about what you speak!!!!!

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ForThePeople (Anonymous) says…

Do we know the word this defines…..a person who tells lies? I'll give you a hint…it has four letters.
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