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Seven arrested in Iraq war protest

Activists use locks for bicycles to chain themselves to doors

December 18, 2005

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Lawrence Police arrested seven protesters Saturday morning after they spent hours chained by their necks to the doors of a military recruiting office.

Protest organizers said members of the group locked themselves to the doors of the Army-Navy recruiting office, 2223 La., in honor of others who have faced more serious consequences for opposing the war in Iraq.

"A lot of people have gone to prison for protesting the war," protest organizer Dave Strano said while watching the scene. "We wanted to do something to honor them."

Police spokesman Sgt. Mark Warren said the six protesters who chained themselves to the doors were arrested for criminal trespassing after police asked them to remove themselves from the recruiting office.

Other charges, including interference with the duties of a law enforcement officer, could be filed later, Warren said.

The protesters used U-shaped bicycle locks to hook themselves by the neck to the front and back doors of the recruitment office about 6:30 a.m. Saturday, protester Sara Caniscioni said.

Caniscioni spent the morning checking on the condition of the protesters, who were exposed to the cold weather, and photographing the scene.

After police had arrived, Caniscioni and others stood away from the scene, holding anti-war signs and talking with police.

At the front of the building, three protesters sat on white buckets so the locks around their necks reached the recruitment office's door handles. It was a precarious position on snowy sidewalks, Warren said.

"If they slipped, they could have been hurt pretty seriously," Warren said.

An ambulance sat ready in case of any injuries, along with eight police cars and a van to transport the protesters away from the scene.

As the protesters remained locked to the doors, police repeatedly cleared others from the recruiting office parking lot, threatening arrest if people continued to walk onto what police had deemed a crime scene.

One protester was eventually arrested for repeatedly walking on the parking lot.

On the sidewalk next to the protesters, a group of military recruiters waited to get into the office, where they said they had planned a Christmas party. They said they could not comment beyond that, and recruiters did not return a message left for them later in the day.

About 10 a.m., the protesters eventually told other members of their group that they were ready to be unchained, and Strano and others gave police the key to unlock them.

Patrick Tyrrell, a spokesman for the protest group, said that he had spoken with one of those arrested from the Douglas County Jail Saturday afternoon. The protester told him they had been charged with trespassing and were waiting for bail to be set.

Later in the day, however, jail records indicated that all were released and not yet charged with any crimes.

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Goodfella 8 years, 3 months ago

Lip ring needs to go back to the piercing / tattoo parlor before break is over. That way she can get a bunch of new body piercings so that she can get mad when someone notices her. Go lock yourself to the back of a moving semi, hippie wannabe.

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prospector 8 years, 3 months ago

Thank you for your service to our country. I'm sure you were an intergral part in winning that one. wink, wink

I will always be indebted to the men and women of our armed services, past and present. We would not be able to say what we want to without them.

Really, thank you and bless thoughs that paid the ultimate sacrifice.

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one_more_bob 8 years, 3 months ago

I went off & did the Army thing back when the Cold War was the hottest show in town.

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prospector 8 years, 3 months ago

I'm glad you are not enlisting. You would be sorely missed around here.

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one_more_bob 8 years, 3 months ago

I'll rush right out & chain myself to something to protest how mistaken I was.

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prospector 8 years, 3 months ago

One-more-bob

I posted this earlier:

"Bless the people doing it, the fighters and the protesters. ... the protesters just want our people to come home and enjoy this great country of ours.

Damn the perpetrator of this war."

"Anti-war is pro-troops in my mind. They truly want our people out of harm's way. That is the whole point."

I also asked several posters here to enlist. I would be proud of them if they did and I would respect and support them. Though I do not know them personally, their posts, if genuine, makes me feel that they are the type that would be good soldiers. I called no one a hypocrite or coward.

If the people that post here wish death or personal harm on the protesters they should go where the death and human tragedy is occuring. Not spout here about hippies and un-American blah,blah, blah. I just want the arm chair patriots(sic) that want to infringe of the rights of these active protesters, that are going to jail under the laws of our land for their beliefs, to think about the serious harm we are putting all people here and abroad in over there. For what? The president said we went on bad intelligence. Good intelligence would tell us to finish what we started and take the battle where it is needed. Let's fight to save lives somewhere.

This is not a shoot-em-up video game where you kill and get killed. There is no "start over" button for the 2100+ good Americans and their families or the 30,000+ Iraqis and their families. The real picture has grave consequences.

In my humble opnion

Thanks

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monkeywrench1969 8 years, 3 months ago

No I think misread the chicken hawk...I wrote CHICKEN NECK. Strano is from Leavenworth and was Civil War re-enacter. The group was called the Chickenneck's

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CanadianPassport 8 years, 3 months ago

Yeah, America is the terrorist, DON'T YOU ALL GET IT!? America only acts out of self interest? We're the terrorists!!!

If I hear this stupid argument one more time I'm going to shove the magna carta up somebody's hole to remind them that sometimes our self interest, and the right to freedom and individual liberties ... drumroll ... actually COLLIDE! The American terrorist crap is the most passe hippie BS ever to sprew forth from a bong hit exhale. If you think the world is better off without America you probably aren't as worldly as you think you are. There are leaders out there much worse than Bush, leaders who have no accountability because their media is locked up in a cell or was just incinerated in an plane crash. And they don't answer to the voters; they sit on their throne until they're damn-well ready to hand off the power to someone more awful than they are. We can either combat this with guns or we can romanticize fascism and pretend that "we're the ones who are really oppressed." Get over yourself. Ask yourself, seriously, "Is there any other force in the world that really seeks to protect human rights and has the power to do so?" Absolutely not. This lazy, fruitless, America-hating counterculture is boring and irrelevant, and moreover, it will never win an election outside of a Eu

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one_more_bob 8 years, 3 months ago

Wow, prospector, I'd not seen the chickenhawk jazz here for a while.

"There are those who would claim that in order to support the current war, one must have served in the military, or sign up to serve. Otherwise the would-be supporter is a "chickenhawk", a member of the "101st Keyboarders"-in other words, a hypocritical coward. As a veteran, nothing could make me angrier than to hear such language substituted for honest debate on an issue of the gravest national concern. The chickenhawk argument is a fallacious argument intended to shut down any debate. It's an outright rejection of logic, framing the debate instead in invective and emotionalism. This is not how important issues should be decided, one side shouting down the other when they have run out of persuasive arguments. War has been, and always will be, an emotional issue-yet the issues surrounding it still need to be address in a rational manner. A rational approach can take into account can take feelings into account as one issue among many; an emotional approach goes no further than feelings, or resorts to feelings when ideas fail or are shown to be corrupt." From: http://igotthisblog.blogspot.com/2005/12/chickenhawk.html

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prospector 8 years, 3 months ago

Jimincountry

"Great point, Glockenspiel: POINT OF NO RETURN"

Did not Kansas cover that song in 1975?

Put your money and body where your mouth is.

Are you going there this morning to enlist? I'm sure you would make a good grunt. I would feel safer with you over there.

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monkeywrench1969 8 years, 3 months ago

Big shock...THe day after finals they lock themselves up the recruiting doors. Time to head home for the semester and start it up again after Christmas break...oh wait Holiday break.

Safe act...I bet now they will claim the troop withdrawl will be based on their protests rather than the approximate 70% turn out in the Iraqi election and the imminent troop reduction because the Iraqi's and coalition forces are getting it done. The US had a lower turn out and we didn ot have bombs and snipers threats.

I have to agree with many here they are for free speech and freedom to do what you want as long as it is what THEY WANT.

Not a shock Strano was out there inthe middle of it again. It is amazing a person who used to be a civil war reenacter would be this opposed to war. Let the Chickenneck's ride.

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grubesteak 8 years, 4 months ago

So, did my tax dollars pay for the police cars and ambulance? Grrrr...

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corporate_sleaze 8 years, 4 months ago

Those two little brats should be spanked. If they were any older I'd suggest ripping out that stupid-a** metal BS on their face with a pair of pliers. That feeling might give them a small sample of the phsyical pain patriotic men and women endured in WWII, Korea and Vietnam only to have brats like this mock their service to the country.

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cms 8 years, 4 months ago

Posted by one_more_bob (anonymous) on December 18, 2005 at 9:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Save the stump!"

THAT is SO funny because I thought one of the girls looked like stumpgirl! Thank you for a good laugh on a cold Sunday evening!

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Jamesaust 8 years, 4 months ago

PVG: "These protestor's appeared to be complaing " (sic)

NO, These people appeared to be behaving as common criminals.

What part of trespass is difficult for you to understand? This is a CRIME. It is a socially disruptive as pickpocketing or driving drunk.

These people have a right to protest, a right to write to the editor, a right to picket outside the Dole Center. They do not have a right to engage in criminal acts. Send them to prison and be done with them!!!!

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Confrontation 8 years, 4 months ago

These idiots should get jobs. Protesting in the name of protesters. Now there's a cause.

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DGL 8 years, 4 months ago

What does this accomplish? They locked themselves at 6 in the morning on a Saturday!! Plus that lip ring really makes me want to listen to you what you have to say.

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jimincountry 8 years, 4 months ago

Great point, Glockenspiel: POINT OF NO RETURN

These anti-war,Bush-haters don't seem to understand. We must win in Iraq and we must win the war against the jihadists; otherwise, the jihadist rule and western liberals and conservatives alike lose their heads!

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coach 8 years, 4 months ago

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pvg 8 years, 4 months ago

Some of the people who have gone to prison for protesting the war are America's own soldiers: Kevin Benderman (articles: http://www.topia.net/kbmedia.html) and Camilo Mejia (articles: http://www.freecamilo.org/articles.htm) are just two examples. Both of these soldiers had already served in Iraq and decided not to return on legal and moral basis. In case anyone hasn't noticed, there exist a few legal issues between the international law the US is party to and the actions it has undertaken (invading and occuping Iraq, taken over its economy, torturing people is Sadaam's prisons, using indescriminate chemical weapons, etc).

There are people who are in prison for breaking the law as the protest against the war. Let's put it in perspecitve: First, legal doesn't equal moral and illegal doesn't equal immoral. Remember the three-fifths clause? Or when a woman voting was illegal? Second, the US has demonstrated that it doesn't respect international law in the war in Iraq or even its own laws in the 'War on Terror.' How many deaths does it take before it is justifiable to break the law to stop the war? 2000? 30,000? A million? How many people need to be sent to secret prisons to be tortured before it's ok? What peace is there left to disturb?

The article never states that the protestors complained that people didn't respect their rights to their beliefes, despite rosseau108's claims. These protestor's appeared to be complaing about a war effort that has over 2000 Americans and 30,000 to 100,000 Iraqis (first claim is Bush's, on the second: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3962969.stm)

Perhaps they were also complaining about the military's recruitment policies used to get people to volunteer: targeting poor and minority youth with promises of college that don't come through most of the time and widespread violations of recruitment's own policies amid historic lows in recruitment levels.

But probably not; they're just stupid and selfish 'neo-hippies.' I'm sure glad using an internet forum to violently denouncing people trying to do something about a murderous war build on lies isn't considered stupid.

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glockenspiel 8 years, 4 months ago

prospector

Never said we should have gone to Iraq. What I said is that leaving now would be "idiotic".

We should protest unjust wars. What we shouldn't do is protest once we get past the point of no return. At this point, we should be giving support for our troops, giving them praise for their sacrifice. They are the true patriots.

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ThePoolBoy 8 years, 4 months ago

So, I just have to comment. Look at the photographs of the activists above.

Notice the big spray-painted sign... Glad they caught their spelling mistake. Resistor/resister.

That could have been the fodder for one heck of a "shocking" protest.

Radio Shack is across the street. Support the resistors!

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prospector 8 years, 4 months ago

Glockenspeil

Nobody is dying for lattes.

Why stop in Iraq? There is oppression all over the world. Do you want the government to be the world police? I'm sure you are a proud supporter of the UN.

Once we have "mission acomplished", where else should we fight oppression with our people lives (2000+ soldiers and growing with the 30,000 and growing Iraqis)? Syria, Iran, S Korea, Somalia?

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rousseau108 8 years, 4 months ago

i just wish these people realized that there is no draft; the people going to the recruiting offices are doing so voluntarily. these protestors complain that people don't respect their rights to their beliefs, yet they're trying to prevent other people from exercising their own beliefs and desires to fight for something they believe in. talk about hypocrites. oh yeah, props to Strano for convincing all those people to do the dirty work for him while he stays on the sidelines and avoids jail. maybe he should get a job in government.

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Eybea Opiner 8 years, 4 months ago

So, we have a few people who tie up an ambulance and 8 police cars for a few hours while denying free access to a public place, and they have no charges filed against them? What gives these people the idea that they have the right to disrupt the free access of others?

If you want to protest, grab your signs and walk the streets or stand in the park. Protest all you want in a peaceful and legal way. Do it illegally and spend time in jail (I wish).

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glockenspiel 8 years, 4 months ago

Goodfella says it best. If there wasn't a war going on, these people would be locking themselves to the doors of the newest Starbucks.

If the US removed all troops today, a new regime would take power in Iraq, led by real militants who care nothing about peoples rights or lives. &*^% would really hit the fan. Iraqis once again would live under oppression. Any Iraqi that took an active role in the failed goverment would be executed. A bad (but improving) situation would become an epidemic. The withdrawal would only lower the worlds impression of the US instead of make it better. The US would be in more danger than we are today.

Iraq's people would be worse off. This makes these protesters selfish. The US would be worse off if we left today. This makes these protesters unpatriotic.

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prospector 8 years, 4 months ago

kujeeper

Does your bumper sticker say:

Proud supporter of genocide Death to the people that don't agree with me

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kujeeper 8 years, 4 months ago

Too bad those locks weren't tighter, we need to weed some of these morons out of the gene pool....

What we really have here is a handful of people who can't think on their own and have to use an unoriginal idea to try to force their "cause" into the media. I hope they throw the book at them.

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prospector 8 years, 4 months ago

The Sychophant

McLouth,one "c", really should be given the benefit of the doubt.

The wingnut's have infiltrated everywhere.

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Bob Forer 8 years, 4 months ago

Prospector,

I dont give a damn if McClouth takes offense. I intended to offend all you wingnut right wingers. Yah, it worked. No go outside and shoot your shotguns off in frustration., you wingnut hillbilly.

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lunacydetector 8 years, 4 months ago

wow! i'm sure this protest changed some minds all over the world -not!

...i wonder if the organizer of the protest also chained himself to the door and got arrested. I doubt it.

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prospector 8 years, 4 months ago

Jay-Z

Your doubts are off base. Anti-war is pro-troops in my mind. They truly want our people out of harm's way. That is the whole point.

They give a damn. We all should.

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prospector 8 years, 4 months ago

The Sychophant

McLouth takes offense.

They do have the only truly needed roundabout in the state. Granite road has a large granite glacier rock in the middle of the intersection with, I think, 7th. They figured it was to big and costly to move hence the roundabout was born.

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kansasfire911 8 years, 4 months ago

I'm surprised the recruiters didn't consider their government agency under attack and just shoot them.

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Jay_Z 8 years, 4 months ago

I agree Jamesaust, these people weren't Protestors. They are not patriotic in my opinion--they locked themselves to the doors "in honor of others who have faced more serious consequences for opposing the war in Iraq." Huh?

Also, from the article: "A lot of people have gone to prison for protesting the war," protest organizer Dave Strano said while watching the scene. "We wanted to do something to honor them." Huh?

People have gone to PRISON for protesting the war? I haven't seen anything in the news about this. Yes, people have been arrested while protesting, for criminal acts--trespassing, disturbing the peace, etc.

Prospector, the only thing these "protesters" do for me is provide a little bit of comic relief--these people are ridiculous. I doubt these people give a damn about our brave men and women fighting for our country.

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Jamesaust 8 years, 4 months ago

Protest is a form of patriotism - Civil disobedience in a free society is just criminality. These people were NOT protesting - they were engaged in criminal activity. "A lot of people have gone to prison for protesting the war." Let's add these few to the (short) list.

The matter should have been handled more in the manner of South Park's Cartman (from "Die Hippie Die"): Spray them down with water and they'll 'melt' away on their own in a few minutes.

As we all know, 'true' protestors would pay their way to Iraq, get themselves kidnapped by 'jihadists,' who would threaten to cut off their heads, and force American military personnel to rescue them.

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prospector 8 years, 4 months ago

Jay Z

So is this going to make you enlist tommorrow?

The Army needs more cannon fodder.

Bless the people doing it, the fighters and the protesters.
Hey Jay-Z, the protesters just want our people to come home and enjoy this great country of ours.

Damn the perpetrator of this war.

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Jay_Z 8 years, 4 months ago

Why is this news? Dumb hippies!!

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Boxcar_Bobby85 8 years, 4 months ago

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus:

Yea, macon, too bad they can't spend all their time posting on internet forums like we do. That'd be a much more productive way to spend their time.

Great post bozo! Kind of puts it all in perspective...........

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Goodfella 8 years, 4 months ago

Neo-hippies is exactly right. These people are as unoriginal as it gets.

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Bob Forer 8 years, 4 months ago

where do all you yahoos live? In McClouth?

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 8 years, 4 months ago

Yea, macon, too bad they can't spend all their time posting on internet forums like we do. That'd be a much more productive way to spend their time.

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mefirst 8 years, 4 months ago

Those who have criticized the protestors here seem stuck on one argument: only a fool would ever challenge the sanctity of a government's duty to lie to its citizens about going to war. Don't you all get it? Those who protest the war are not protesting against "self defense;" they protest against international terrorism, just like you think you are doing. The only difference is that the protestors have actually done their homework and know their history. Looking in the mirror is the only way America will ever divert itself from the path toward destruction it has been headed ever since we invaded our first Indigenous Nation, all the way to the present, now that we have intervened in most of the Third World, YES, in addition to that one gloriously just war we fought, WWII. We really should keep taking so much credit for that, because it's virtually alone in a history of U.S. interventions done purely for the selfish interest of expansion of our power, at the expense of thousands of trustful soldiers and literally millions of our victims in the Third World, which it is obvious none of the war promoters care about.

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ruskastud 8 years, 4 months ago

And people wonder why the word "Lawrence" has become synonymous with the word "hippies"?

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macon47 8 years, 4 months ago

it is a shame those children didnt have anything more productive to do. i bet their folks are real proud of the money they are spending on the little jerks educations.

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Richard Heckler 8 years, 4 months ago

Peaceful protest is best and our law enforcement is never in any danger from these non violent citizens expressing themselves.

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Goodfella 8 years, 4 months ago

What would these people do if they didn't have a war to protest? They live for war just as much as the die-hard war monger. If they didn't, they would be finding important things to do with their time, like helping out in a constructive way throughout the community. Instead, they lock their necks to doors so that they can get in the paper.

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classclown 8 years, 4 months ago

Too bad they couldn't think of a less laughable and utterly idiotic thing to do. If I had known about it, I would have gone down there and laughed at them.

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Kookamooka 8 years, 4 months ago

Yea!!!! Young people still have the spirit and spunk to launch a good protest. HOORAY!! I thought we lived in a world of "roll on your back' for the government pansies. If I didn't have to hire a babysitter, I'd join you!

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indythinker 8 years, 4 months ago

"A lot of people have gone to prison for protesting the war," protest organizer Dave Strano said while watching the scene. "We wanted to do something to honor them."

Ummm...Dave, who has gone to prison for protesting this war? I need names. Are they still there? Why? Was it because of their political viewpoint or just because they protested illegally? Are you going to add your name to the list of the "imprisoned" because they hauled you down to the city jail?

If you want to make a difference, start a letter writing campain to your respective congressman outlining the names of the political prisoners and why they should be released. Get lots of people to sign it too. If they get enough letters, trust me, they'll listen.

If you want the US govt. out of Iraq/Afghanistan, gather up all your buddies and come on over. Believe me, the military wants to be home more than anyone else. There's plenty of work to do. Pack a kevlar helmet and bullet-proof vest. Buy life insurance to, if they'll sell it to you.

Does anyone agree with me and The Pool Booy that this was a feeble attempt at getting some run in the newspaper?

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Pilgrim 8 years, 4 months ago

I liked the earlier suggestion: Take the key and leave them there. If they want to be chained by their necks to a door handle, I'm all for helping them in any way we can.

Please let us know in advance next time. I'll even volunteer to bring the padlock.

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Bob Forer 8 years, 4 months ago

Protest is a sign of true patriotism.

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ThePoolBoy 8 years, 4 months ago

Huh, had the newspaper not been there no one would have even known this took place.

And since the newspaper was there... no one cares that this took place.

Wonder if they get their bike locks back. May have to visit the annual police auction. I need a new U lock.

So, about those Chiefs...

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leftwingfarmboy 8 years, 4 months ago

Good going! Thanks for doing that for the world.

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