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Doug Moe happens to be one of the most colorful, most quotable figures in NBA history.

He also happens to be a pal of Kansas University menâÂÂs basketball coach Roy Williams and the father of Emporia State coach David Moe, who brings his second ESU team to Allen Fieldhouse tonight.

Tipoff for the battle between NCAA Division I and II teams is 7 p.m. with a live telecast on channels 13 and 38 (C15).

âÂÂDoug Moe is one of my heroes. In coaching there is always one former player who can break you up, no matter the situation. For me itâÂÂs somebody like Scot Pollard. For coach Smith, itâÂÂs Doug,â Williams said of North Carolina coaching legend Dean Smith, who assisted Frank McGuire in 1959-61, when Doug Moe played for UNC.

âÂÂI have seen Doug Moe kiss coach Smith on the head. I have seen him sit on coach SmithâÂÂs lap. IâÂÂve heard Doug call him âÂÂ’El Deano.â Not many people can do that,â Williams added with a laugh.

The 64-year-old Doug Moe, the winningest coach in Denver Nuggets history and current Nuggets coaching consultant, is not a member of SmithâÂÂs Carolina coaching tree.

But he has always been close to his former coach and the Tar Heel program. So naturally he has a close relationship with 1972 UNC graduate Williams, who has known Doug and David Moe a long, long time.

âÂÂI wonâÂÂt say IâÂÂve known coach Williams all my life, but at least 25 years,â David Moe, 37, said of the 52-year-old man heâÂÂll coach against tonight.

âÂÂBack when he was a high school coach in North Carolina, he worked CarolinaâÂÂs camp and I was in his gym when he was running the gym. I remember coach Williams well. HeâÂÂs one of those guys who has always had a presence about him.

âÂÂHe had it back then. He had it when he went to work for coach Smith and heâÂÂs had it at Kansas where heâÂÂs built one of the great programs in the country.âÂÂ

David Moe, who has directed E-State to a 4-3 record this year after a 7-19 debut last season, speaks in glowing terms about Williams, who handed Moe 17 straight losses from 1993-2001 when the ESU coach toiled as assistant at Colorado.

âÂÂBeing around coach Smith and coach Williams during the summers are occasions invaluable to me,â Moe said. âÂÂWhen I was at Colorado, weâÂÂd talk before the games.

âÂÂThere are four people I respect in this profession, ones at the top of my list âÂÂ:quot; Dean Smith, Larry Brown, my father and coach Williams. It doesnâÂÂt mean I am as good a coach as they are, but I can be as good a person,â David Moe added.

Moe actually worked for Brown during the 1987-88 season âÂÂ:quot; the last national championship season at KU.

âÂÂIt was one of the best years of my life from the standpoint of having fun,â said Moe, who was a graduate assistant for the KU team. âÂÂI wasnâÂÂt a coach. I wasnâÂÂt a player. I stuffed a lot of envelopes and maybe coached one player at practice, but I was part of it.

âÂÂTo watch that team grow from a 12-8 record to winning the national championship âÂÂ: itâÂÂs because Larry Brown made them get better each and every day.

âÂÂIt goes back to that Carolina philosophy. Danny (Manning) was on that team, but it also took an effort from the rest of the guys on the team.âÂÂ

Moe, who was born in Burlington, N.C., played high school ball in Aurora, Colo., and college ball at Division. II Catawba and Texas Lutheran.

Truth be known, his favorite gym just might be Allen Fieldhouse, where heâÂÂll coach tonight.

âÂÂI just want to feel the moment. I want my kids to feel the moment,â Moe said. âÂÂFor me and those kids, itâÂÂs going to mean a lot. To coach on the same floor with someone you respect like coach Williams âÂÂ:quot; a guy who has stood the test of time in a tough, tough business âÂÂ:quot; it will be a memorable night.âÂÂ

Moe knows the score could get ugly.

âÂÂIf we get beat 150-50 weâÂÂll just have to use it to get better. IâÂÂm not smart enough to figure out how to lead a Division. II team to a win over Division. I,â Moe said. âÂÂIn eight years at Colorado, we never ended up beating KU and we had more talent than we have now at Emporia. Our goal is to walk away and have people say, âÂÂ’Those guys play hard.âÂÂâÂÂ

Williams says heâÂÂll have mixed emotions no matter the outcome.

âÂÂThey are great friends, part family,â Williams said of the Moes. âÂÂItâÂÂs one of those games at the end of the game IâÂÂm not going to feel comfortable because if they win, IâÂÂm not going to feel comfortable for me and our players and if we win, IâÂÂm not going to feel good for David.âÂÂ

DavidâÂÂs dad will not be on hand tonight to assess the play of his sonâÂÂs team, and buddy RoyâÂÂs team.

âÂÂMy dad wants to come to a game where we have a chance and he can tell me what to do,â David said with a laugh. âÂÂHe wants to come to one where he can influence the outcome of the game.âÂÂ