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On Do you think the city of Lawrence needs a policy about drones?


tomatogrower 4 years, 10 months ago

What is it with conservatives? They "fixed" the non existent voter fraud problem. They "fixed" the non existent problem of care for developmentally disabled adults. They "fixed" the tax code that has worked for years. They "fixed" one of the lowest unemployment rates in the country, making it rise. The city doesn't have drones or plans on buying drones. Is this a purposeful attempt to distract us from the real problems, or are they just really living in a bubble? Next thing you know they will be asking the city for a policy in case Big Foot is spotted on Mass Street?

Armstrong 4 years, 10 months ago

The Lawrence elite also fixed the non-existent transgender discrimination issue. See 2 can play that game.

livinginlawrence 4 years, 10 months ago

Transgender folks already exist in Lawrence. As far as I am aware, drones do not.

Frederic Gutknecht IV 4 years, 10 months ago

Who are "The Lawrence elite" and how, exactly, did they manage to fix this discrimination issue? Did it affect your life? Did fixing this "non-existent" issue cause you pain or cost you dollars? Your comment is lame.

Frederic Gutknecht IV 4 years, 10 months ago

Fixing problems that have no valuable results, often results in the masses' perception of having problems fixed...all the while ignoring real problems. They do what's easy to make them seem as if they're working hard to fix things...while fixating upon their income and the income of their corporate support system.

Paul R Getto 4 years, 10 months ago

Only as it might apply to city commissioners droning on in meetings.

Liberty275 4 years, 10 months ago

It should be illegal for information collected by any unmanned aircraft to be used for law enforcement purposes anywhere in the state of Kansas, so it should be a state law. That would cover Lawrence by default.

BorderRat 4 years, 10 months ago

Really...Is this the biggest thing the city has to worry about?

LogicMan 4 years, 10 months ago

Unless they are going to set up ack-acks, there's no easy way for the City to enforce such a law.

Russell Fryberger 4 years, 10 months ago

What everyone seems to keep forgetting is that there is no more privacy in the world. Drones only see whats outside so I'm ok with them.

Frederic Gutknecht IV 4 years, 10 months ago

What? They can't look in windows? They can't create heat visions of persons behind walls? I think you may want to reconsider the ever-increasing power of the drone.

Liberty275 4 years, 10 months ago

It is possible to use lasers and the doppler effect to listen to conversations inside any room with a glass window. Mount that on a drone and fly it in circles 5,000 feet over Paul Davis' house (where it can't be seen) and the larryville left would go absolutely nuts.

bad_dog 4 years, 10 months ago

If it's flown (where it can't be seen), why would the larryville left "go absolutely nuts"?

Liberty275 4 years, 10 months ago

Hopefully the spies would screw it up or someone would leak it.

nocrybabies 4 years, 10 months ago

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Armored_One 4 years, 10 months ago

The future's so bright, I gotta wear shades...

riverdrifter 4 years, 10 months ago

For once in my life, I agree with Liberty275! Wait until they fly over your house and take a picture of your 17 year-old daughter (or your wife) sunbathing in private in a tiny bikini or less and the next day it's all over the internet. Or drones fly over your pastures at night, making cattle rustling fast and easy. Or, drones fly over your timber locating trophy deer and they jack-light them and haul the heads away, leaving the carcass behind. Drones are absolutely going to be a problem. I'm putting my money not on drones, but on anti-drone technology. I guess we'll have to start primitive on that front: 3 1/2" 12 gage with OO buckshot.

whats_going_on 4 years, 10 months ago

ok, why would a drone give a crap about someone sunbathing?

Armored_One 4 years, 10 months ago

As I commented on the thread for the linked article, does it matter much that all this posturing is all but pointless. The FAA regulates what flies in American airspace, including the parts located over Lawrence. No ban at a municipal level will matter in a federal court, because that is exactly where the FAA will take any case brought against it.

Here's a funny scenario, though, for the gentleman (I think) above that mentioned shooting down drones. A photojournalist uses a drone to take pictures. Not only is the use covered under freedom of the press, presumably, but it's also private property, and if said drone were hovering over a city right of way, or even city sidewalk, it can't be construed as trespassing. Oh, and before you sound off about invasion of privacy, the paparazzi can legally take pictures of people sunbathing, sometimes au natural, and yet they can't be sued due to freedom of the press.

Reality sucks, but if you want to make headway, take it up with the people in charge, namely the FAA. Otherwise, it's about as useful as asking to talk to the manager of McDonald's about the cruddy service you got at Taco John's...

riverdrifter 4 years, 10 months ago

I'm predicting that in the future the FAA gets overrun with drone issues and throws their hands up and runs away from it. They have much more important issues to address such as air passenger safety. Looking at Ag website chat boards, drones are already a topic of interest as well as concern. Farmer/stockmen welcome the idea of using drones to help manage their livestock and crops on their property but they don't want anybody else eyeballing them. Drones pose huge issues when it comes to felony trespassing, rustling, spying and poaching.

Armored_One 4 years, 10 months ago

Actually, I read an article last night about the non existant vast amounts of applications for operating drones. Since it was released from the FAA itself, I think I can trust the validity of the article stating that somewhere around 50 applications, in total, have been received by police, sheriff, and other law enforcement departments nationwide.

More catch phrase reporting and media hype to entertain me, I guess...

Frederic Gutknecht IV 4 years, 10 months ago

Do you not, YOURSELF, see the applications of drone technology? What exists now is not what will exist and we are not privy to the applications and capabilities that exist now. Remain in the dark, but you will be seen.

Armored_One 4 years, 10 months ago

Correct me if I am wrong in this interpretation, but are you saying that since we cannot predict how the future will turn out, we should act now to prevent a miscarriage of justice at a later point and time?

riverdrifter 4 years, 10 months ago

Here's a drone that got away from the operator in Switzerland. What happens when one gets sucked into an engine of a 747 with 350 passengers on board? Drones = issues to be resolved by the ton.

Richard Heckler 4 years, 10 months ago

Of course our city government should engage in the discussion of protecting our privacy from the long arm of the government. And set a policy.

People are not doing anything illegal yet spy drones are roaming the nations skies. If we are not doing anything illegal why has the government been spying on Americans since 2001?

Isn't that a gross waste of tax dollars that could be better spent on repairing sidewalks,creating new USA industry for about 20 million unemployed? That would likely reduce the number of homeless people in America. The number of unemployed increases with each new class of grads who thought jobs would be available.

Is it any of the governments business to know what law abiding citizens are doing 24/7? I would say not.

I'm still curious about how the 9/11/01 terrorists got by the Bush administration and his NSA intelligence experts? I know the Bush people have a strong distaste for people who want clean energy and less war spending sooooo what was that government doing? Spying on the wrong people?

Armored_One 4 years, 10 months ago

Again, to pour a cup of logic on the bonfire of obsession, only the FAA has the authority to regulate American airspace, not a local governmental body.

Or, to be a tad bit more blunt, Lawrence can pass as many laws regarding their use that they want, but the instant that drone is airborne, Lawrence loses any and all right and ability to regulate how it's used.

There are plenty of legal protections in place to deal with any fools using drones in foolish ways.

Sadly, I will probably see the need to repost the information about the FAA the more this drone nonsense is played out in the media...

Armored_One 4 years, 10 months ago

Ya know, EVERY article that I have read online so far has flat stated, from Christian Monitor to CNN, that the FAA has sole jurisdiction over American airspace. And, just to tweak it a tad bit more...

Isn't it funny how in this article, from this same exact newspaper publisher, flat out states that their permit is dependent on FAA approval? Gee, if the FAA can restrict a permit concerning landing obstacles, which on private property would very likely stand under 500 feet, I guess that means the FAA is federally mandated to control ALL American airspace.

There is a lot more to the Internet than porn and Facebook. All of this information is readily available from a Yahoo search, let alone a Google or Bing search.

William Enick 4 years, 10 months ago

Policy should be everybody old enough to go to war should have at least two

purplesage 4 years, 10 months ago

Perhaps a policy that will prevent the LPD from acquiring one to go along with their multi-million dollar facility and the armored personnel carrier roving the streets of our fair city.

Armored_One 4 years, 10 months ago

Ding ding ding.

Finally, a correct methodology for dealing with this 'crisis', not that there is really a crisis in the first place, but still...

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