Chat about speeding tickets and road safety with Lawrence Police Sgts. Randy Roberts and Paul Fellers
Lawrence Police Sgts. Randy Roberts and Paul Fellers will take your questions about speeding and traffic safety.
monkeywrench
what are my rights when pulled over, to see proof of my speeding?
jeffds01
I’m curious what the correct law is for using round-abouts, I’ve heard many different things like yeild to the person to your left, or whoever enters first has the right of way. But through my experience I’ve seen some close calls at round-abouts. I’m curious what the law states abour round-abouts. For instance the one at 19th and barker. Thanks
monkeywrench
Remember that part in “Cannonball Run” where Loni Anderson gets out of a speeding ticket by zipping the front of her jumpsuit down? A. That was awesome. B. As a 230-pound man with lots of body hair, do you think that would work for me despite my lack of jumpsuit?
Moderator
Good afternoon. This is Dennis Anderson, managing editor of the Lawrence Journal-World. Our guests today are Lawrence Police Sgts. Randy Roberts and Paul Fellers. They will be discussing, among other topics, speeding tickets and road safety. Welcome, sergeants.
Randy Roberts and Paul Fellers
Thanks. It’s a pleasure to be here.
Moderator
We have several questions from readers. I’ll just get started.
Bassetlover
I was on a highway in the Springfield/Branson area over the weekend and noticed multiple big signs in the areas where road construction is occurring. The signs say “Hit A Worker – $10,000 Fine – Lose Your License”…..how about using that deterrent instead of the labor involved in issuing so many tickets in areas like the Kasold construction?
Randy Roberts and Paul Fellers
Kansas does not currently have a similar law. It is important to remember that police officers do not make the laws, we merely enforce them. Education of the public about current work zones is started well in advance of the project’s beginning and the officers routinely issue warnings for the first several days of the project. Signage alone has not been shown to deter speeding in construction zones, but we would certainly be open to other means of protecting construction workers.
rccoleon
If I get a ticket for going 10 miles over the speed limit and I qualify for diversion, what would the fine/penalty be? Thanks!
Randy Roberts and Paul Fellers
Diversion or plea bargaining of traffic citations is within the discretion of the prosecutor. If the citation was issued in Lawrence by a Lawrence or University of Kansas police officer, the Lawrence City prosecutor would be the office you would need to speak to. Their number is 832-6195.
justthefacts
#1 Many people believe that police officers have been given a traffic ticket quota they have to fill. I’ve heard LEO leaders respond saying that while no one has a set quota, there is a “normal” amount of tickets one can expect on average – which if not reached may mean the individual officer is not working as hard as supervisors would like. Isn’t that the same thing as having an unspoken quota?
#2 Does any of of the $ collected from tickets get returned to the Department’s budget?
#3 Are the speeding signs posted where people cannot see/read them? If not, why do you think that people complain about unfairness after they get caught disobeying a posted speed sign?
Moderator
The next question is actually three questions.
Randy Roberts and Paul Fellers
Let’s address your questions in the order that they were asked.
First, the Lawrence Police Department has no specific ticket quota for its officers. All patrol officers are expected to perform traffic enforcement to help ensure the safety of all members of the public. Police officers, like most other employees, are required to be accountable for their time. If the officer is not answering calls for service and is spending time doing traffic enforcement, the expectation is that some citations will be issued. In our experience, both as police officers and as members of the public, it is virtually impossible to spend much time on a public roadway and not see some substantial violations of the traffic laws.
Second, money from fines is returned to the City’s general fund. The police department, like most other departments, receives money from the general fund. The police department only receives this money to the extent that any other department of the city receives monies from the general fund in the budget process. Increases and decreases in ticket revenue do not necessarily cause increases or decreases in the police department budget.
Last, traffic signs are posted pursuant to the Manual of Uniform Traffic Control Devices, and are meant to be seen by the public.
marydev
I live on a Barker Ave with loads of local traffic speeding. I notice a police presence on Massachusetts St but I have never seen a police officer on my street. As a concerned parent who can I get in touch to request a police presence to reduece the speeding? I am worried about the kids who live on the street and the speeding drivers, who many times have children with them. thanks!!!
Randy Roberts and Paul Fellers
Complaint based enforcement is a significant part of what we do. Please call me, Sgt. Randy Roberts, at 832-7595 or call 832-7509 and ask for a patrol shift commander to express your specific concerns.
meburr
If you observe what appears to be a drunk driver on the road, what are the steps a citizen should take to report them? Thank you.
Randy Roberts and Paul Fellers
This situation occurs frequently, at all hours of the day and night. We would suggest you call dispatch at 832-7509 or, if you are someplace where you do not know what the police department’s number is, call 911. Try to get the best description of the vehicle, including the driver if possible, and the license plate number. Also, the location and direction of travel is important. If you are willing to identify youself it is helpful to the police and prosecutors. If you choose to follow the suspect vehicle, do so safely and provide the dispatcher with a description of your vehicle as well.
Once again, let me emphasize that you need to preserve your own safety first. Please do not do anything that puts you or other members of the public at risk.
LawrenceIATAN
What is the longest distance allowed from the moving vehicle for the radar to be used?
Thank you
Randy Roberts and Paul Fellers
We believe that you are asking what the longest distance is that our technology can measure the speed of a moving vehicle at. There are many conditions that affect this answer including topography, weather, and traffic density. Especially with radar, steps must me taken to ensure that the vehicle that the operator intends to measure is the vehicle being measured. This limits its effective range in most circumstances. Lidar (laser radar) units have a much greater effective range extending into several thousands of feet in appropriate situations.
rccoleon
Where are the “speed traps” in Lawrence?
Randy Roberts and Paul Fellers
If you are asking where officers enforce the traffic laws most frequently, you can expect to see more police presence in places with higher traffic volumes, places where citizens have asked for increased presence, around schools and construction zones, and areas that have higher numbers of accidents or the potential for a large number of accidents. Areas included would be intersections that are controlled by stop signs and stop lights.
Moderator
Where are some of those places of enforcement currently located?
Randy Roberts and Paul Fellers
You can expect to continue to see officers emphasizing enforcement of the streets that carry high volumes of traffic. Kasold, Clinton Parkway/23rd Street, Massachusetts Street, and Iowa Street are some examples. Not coincidentally, many of these streets also reflect the areas with the highest accident numbers in the City are located, for example 23rd and Iowa.
Moderator
Is there a threshold over the speed limit at which officers start giving speeding tickets?
Randy Roberts and Paul Fellers
An officer may issue a speeding ticket for any speed over the posted speed limit. With that being said, if a person were to check each citation issued by the members of the department, there would be few if any for just one or two miles over the speed limit. Each officer has the discretion to consider all the circumstances involved with a violation to determine whether to take enforcement action.
Ragingbear
One thing I know that is commonly reported is that the police officers do not seem to obey the same traffic laws that others are expected to follow. We of course understand that certain rules are exempt when they are responding to calls, but what about when they are merely traveling? Are they given additional legal leeway in regards to speed, stop signs and U-Turns? If not, is anything being done about such abuse?
Randy Roberts and Paul Fellers
If police officers are not responding to an emergency or attempting to stop a vehicle they should be following the same traffic laws as everyone else. If you observe a member of the police department driving in an unsafe or illegal manner, please call dispatch at 832-7509 and ask to speak with an on-duty shift supervisor. It would be helpful if you would have the exact location and time of the behavior in question available so that the officer in question can be identified. Also, if you see any other identification information such as unit numbers please note that as well.
The Department appreciates all feedback from the community.
Moderator
We are out of time. I want to thank the readers for your questions. I also want to thank Sgts. Roberts and Fellers for your time and answers to the questions. I hope you will both join us again in the future.
Randy Roberts and Paul Fellers
We appreciate the opportunity.