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As Lawrence students gear up for gun-control protests, adults pledge support in ‘Wrap the Walkout’ campaign

Several hundred Free State High School students protest gun violence in schools by walking out of class, Wednesday, Feb. 21, 2018. Students, who returned to school for the first time since learning of a shooting threat made by a classmate on social media, held signs with the names and ages of the 17 victims of the recent school shooting in Florida.

Several hundred Free State High School students protest gun violence in schools by walking out of class, Wednesday, Feb. 21, 2018. Students, who returned to school for the first time since learning of a shooting threat made by a classmate on social media, held signs with the names and ages of the 17 victims of the recent school shooting in Florida.

March 7, 2018

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For 17 minutes starting at 10 a.m. on March 14, students, teachers and their supporters across the country will stage walkouts to honor the 17 victims of last month’s Parkland, Fla., shooting and to protest gun violence.

Chisato Kimura, a senior at Lawrence High School, plans to be among them. Kimura, 18, is one of several student organizers involved in next week’s protest, itself a part of the National School Walkout movement spearheaded by the National Women’s March Network.

She’s hoping the protest will bring awareness (and, ultimately, change) to an issue that she feels has been long ignored by lawmakers. Kimura said she understands the disappointment and anger voiced by the young survivors of last month’s shooting, many of whom have since aggressively lobbied their congressional leaders for tighter gun control.

“There are people dying because of the lack of policies now, and lawmakers seem very reluctant to make a policy change,” Kimura said. “ … That’s something that’s very frustrating to see.”

March 14, the day of the walkout, marks one month since the shooting at Florida’s Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School. Since then, “even our president,” Kimura said, has suggested arming teachers as an answer to gun violence in schools.

But Kimura, whose mother is a teacher, doesn’t see that as a viable solution. “I think arming her is probably not the best idea,” the teenager said.

In the weeks following the Parkland shooting, Kimura and her peers have formed their own gun-control advocacy group, Students Advocating Firearm Reform, or SAFeR. The March 14 protest will mark the organization’s first official event, and the students won’t be alone in their efforts that morning.

Kelly Barth plans to attend the walkout at LHS that morning as part of “Wrap the Walkout,” a local initiative calling on adults to “wrap” themselves around the school in a symbolic show of support and protection.

The longtime Lawrence resident sympathizes with students who have felt frustrated by “the nation’s and state’s leaders protecting people’s gun rights over protecting the students themselves."

“I just signed on because I saw other walkout events across the country and thought I’d want to be supportive of the students in my neighborhood,” Barth said. “I want them to know that the adults around them care about what happens to them.”

Mandy Enfield agrees. The Lawrence mother also plans to attend “Wrap the Walkout.”

“It’s just terrifying to have a son in middle school in the current climate,” said Enfield, whose sixth-grader attends Liberty Memorial Central Middle School. “I think the best thing that’s come of this is the students are being really strong and speaking out for themselves. They’re being really brave, and I want them to continue that, and I do hope it’s something he’ll see and feel empowered by.”

For Kimura and her fellow student activists, the walkout is just the beginning. The SAFeR group is already planning a protest outside the Kansas State Capitol in Topeka on March 24, the same day students from across the country will “March for Our Lives.” The national demonstration, spearheaded by Parkland shooting survivors in collaboration with Everytown for Gun Safety, will take place in Washington, D.C., and in communities throughout the U.S.

On April 20, Kimura said, students from both LHS and Free State High School will take part in the National High School Walkout movement. The plan calls for high school students across the country to walk out of classes on April 20, the 19th anniversary of the Columbine, Colo., shooting, from 10 a.m. local time until the end of the school day. Students are encouraged to stand together in silence for 17 minutes, honoring the 17 victims of the Parkland shooting, before participating in an open mic.

In Lawrence, students will walk out at 10 a.m. and travel to South Park, where Kimura and other organizers are planning a community event with food, music, speakers and more gun-control activism.

The movement is student-led, Kimura said, but it’s not just about students. “We want to create not just safer schools but a safer America,” she said. “That’s our ultimate goal.”

“Personally I’m hoping that if we continue to speak out, there will be some policy change,” Kimura said. “We’ll have to keep raising our voices so that congressional leaders will know that we’re not going away anytime soon. We’re here to stay until we see the policy changes we’re demanding.”

Julie Boyle, the Lawrence school district’s communications director, said school principals are aware of the planned protests and have had conversations about the events with students and staff.

“They continue to work together to ensure that students are safe and able to have their voices heard,” Boyle said in an email. “The district respects the rights of all students, whether they choose to participate or not.”

Classes will follow the regular schedule March 14, she said, and any absences associated with the national walkouts will be excused.

Comments

Joshua Cain 1 month, 2 weeks ago

Can students in favor of gun ownership "rights" stage counter protests? The walkout is a slippery slope.

Aaron McGrogor 1 month, 2 weeks ago

Sure they can. That would be a very crass move though.

David Reber 1 month, 2 weeks ago

Interesting question, Joshua.

The school district (and countless others) have said they won't discipline students for skipping school for these walk-outs. So......would they discipline students for skipping school for a walkout in support of gun rights? Or how about a walk-out in opposition to compulsory schooling? Or a walk-out to honor the Confederate flag? Or for a Nazi march? On and on.....

If students were punished for those sorts of walk-outs, but not for this one, it would be clear that the punishment wasn't for walking out but rather for the content of their speech. And the district could get sued, and they would lose. I'm no lawyer, but this seems pretty clear cut to me.....

William D'Armond 1 month, 2 weeks ago

I asked my 15 year old if she was going to participate in this walkout. She said that there was a bunch of peer pressure to participate and that most of the kids in her circle were participating. I then asked if she knew what it was all about. She said that her understanding was to make a national acknowledgement of the 17 children that were killed in Florida.

I in turn asked her what she heard about gun-control and the association with it. She said, not really. So I in turn took about 15 minutes as her parent to educate her about the 2nd amendment, what it provides us as Americans, and what the differences between Fully Automatic and semi-automatic firearms are. Then asked her how she felt about creating laws that required citizens to forfeit the rights and their firearms based on the actions of a few evil people in this world. Her response was no way.

Do not let our government, politicians, and media turn our children into sheep. Educate them, teach them to use their brains and research something prior to following the herd. I will support my children's thoughts and ideas as long as they are educated and fact based, not something they heard based on a masked report from a media outlet or an uneducated friend.

Jim Williamson 1 month, 2 weeks ago

"...Then asked her how she felt about creating laws that required citizens to forfeit the rights and their firearms based on the actions of a few evil people in this world..."

I'm glad you didn't ask her any leading questions.

Aaron McGrogor 1 month, 2 weeks ago

"I will support my children's thoughts and ideas as long as..." ...they are in line with mine.

Yeah, fixed that for him.

William D'Armond 1 month, 2 weeks ago

Unfortunately Aaron, I am not like you. My children have their own minds and I encourage them to use them. They can do their own research and form what ever opinion they want. We can debate topics like this and at the end of the day, if they do not feel the same way I do, I am fine with it. You must have had an upbringing similar to what you described. Did daddy take you to the woodshed or his secret meeting spot when you were a teenager to ensure you felt they way he did?

Aaron McGrogor 1 month, 1 week ago

"We can debate topics like this and at the end of the day, if they do not feel the same way I do, I am fine with it." Well that's certainly a different attitude than the one you had in your earlier post.

"Did daddy take you to the woodshed or his secret meeting spot when you were a teenager to ensure you felt they way he did?" That is hilarious, but no.

William D'Armond 1 month, 2 weeks ago

Is that not what the snowflakes are pushing? Ban something they know absolutely nothing about based on media fed ignorance. Restrict their abilities as young adults, because age has everything to do with knowledge of a firearm and the safety related to it. What does AR stand for Jim? Can you answer without looking it up on google, which you are probably going to do before replying because you are clueless. Ban Assault Rifles, because AR stands for Assault rifle. Do you also believe than an AR can shoot 100 round per second?

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 1 month, 2 weeks ago

So basically you told her that you did not approve of her going?

William D'Armond 1 month, 2 weeks ago

No I did not. We told her that if she wanted to attend it was her decision but she needed to educate herself and not do it because a bunch of her friends were doing it. I have no problem with my children having their own ideas. I just want them to have full knowledge of what they are supporting.

Bob Forer 1 month, 1 week ago

A person who refers to other people as "snowflakes" doesn't strike me as the sort of person who encourages his children to think for themselves.

Amber Brejcha Fraley 1 month, 1 week ago

Did you also inform her that as an American woman, she is 100 times more likely to be killed by gun violence than you? https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-study-debunks-the-nras-claim-that-guns-protect-women/

Kim Wardlaw Sawyer 1 month, 2 weeks ago

The beginning of the teenagers statement shows the ignorant base for the walkout. No amount of legislation can fix the problem, we have laws that say it is illegal to kill someone since the country was formed. It hasn't stopped the deaths, but let people know ahead of time that their actions have consequences. Perhaps if the consequences were more harsh and judgement carried out swiftly then those contemplating a crime like this would pause and not commit it.

Another solution would be to institutionalize those who have serious mental issues and help them in a controlled environment and medicate when it's necessary, not simply because it can done.

John Kyle 1 month, 2 weeks ago

So you would rather mentally ill people be locked up against their will and their rights than to have laws that stop them from buying guns?

Bob Smith 1 month, 2 weeks ago

The 13th Century Children's Crusade didn't wind up so well for the participants according to traditional sources. There are some big-money groups behind this particular crusade. What will be their next step if waving these bloody shirts fails?

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 1 month, 2 weeks ago

He's afraid to give you sources, because they will be from infowars and we'll make fun of him.

Kim Watkins 1 month, 1 week ago

The Women’s March Youth EMPOWER and a coalition with Peace First, Rise To Run, Teen Vogue, The Justice League NYC, The Gathering For Justice, and Rock The Vote. That would be the "they".

Nate Upchurch 1 month, 2 weeks ago

These walk outs do nothing but make people feel better. Protesting for more gun control, more laws to make it difficult to buy guns or raise the age to purchase. What will that do to stop the next school shooting? These shootings are awful, but taking away AR-15's, raising the legal age to buy them doesn't accomplish their mission. Maybe instead of arming teachers put a safe room in every classroom. Throw bulletproof glass up, make cops patrol near the schools more, put armed cops at the schools. Do something that might actually help. Who's paying attention to these walk outs besides small town media? Everyone else is at work kids, good effort, but the ends, don't justify the means.

Aaron McGrogor 1 month, 2 weeks ago

Yeah! Why bother doing anything? None of it will ever matter, and we know that for a fact.

Tony Peterson 1 month, 2 weeks ago

Tell that to all the to all the high school students who protested the Vietnam war or are you not old enough to remember that? At the time that grassroots organization of protests was laughed at as well..

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 1 month, 2 weeks ago

And the young people who sat at lunch counters and helped Blacks in Jim Crow states to register to vote.

Charles Jones 1 month, 2 weeks ago

Somehow, I doubt that very many high school students pay attention to this particular running commentary. If they do, I hope they will take the time to read the following letter from Mayor Sly James.

http://kcmayor.org/uncategorized/a-letter-from-mayor-sly-james-to-students

Richard Heckler 1 month, 2 weeks ago

Politicians will say anything to shut americans up about guns when in reality are only waiting for this massive teen slaughter situation to run out of steam.

The GOP which is controlled by very radical right wing money aka ALEC will do nothing about deregulated gun sales. Nothing will change.

This is why the loud voices for replacing all laws with a few new regulations need to stay active and loud.

Politicians will say anything to shut americans up and in reality are only waiting for this sitaution to run out of steam.

The news media must stay on top of this matter. Assault weapons must be taken off the retail market, the black market and not allowed in gun shows.

Military and law enforcement weapons when retired MUST be melted down and perhaps brought back as picinic tables.

Arming teachers is shallow thinking. Security officers are acceptable HOWEVER they cannot stop an action if they don't when a shooting is going to take place or where it will take place

Regarding the gun issue. What is the true motivation is the question? I say it has little to with rights to have lethal assault weapons and more to do with a back door method of building right wing armed militias.

GET all assault weapons off the market, off the streets, out of homes no matter what then make it a felony to own or sell one!!!!

Law enforcement KNOWS damn well this open carry places them and all of us in harms way to a greater extreme than ever before.

Bob Summers 1 month, 2 weeks ago

You and your genetically determined ideology is why there is a 2nd amendment.

Let that sink in mate.

Bob Smith 1 month, 2 weeks ago

"...Can anyone imagine a major newspaper running an op-ed justifying public ignorance on public policy? Actually, not merely justifying the ignorance, but rather arguing that facts only help smother discourse rather than enhance it. It’s improbable. Then again, this is the gun debate. And one side benefits from policy illiteracy. The Washington Post ran an op-ed by former Gawker writer Adam Weinstein arguing that Second Amendment advocates use “jargon” to bully gun-control supporters. “While debating the merits of various gun control proposals,” he contends, “Second Amendment enthusiasts often diminish, or outright dismiss their views if they use imprecise firearms terminology.” How dare Second Amendment advocates expect that those passionately arguing to limit their constitutional rights might have some rudimentary knowledge of the devices they want to ban? To point out the constant glaring technical and policy “faux pas” of gun controllers is to engage in “gunsplaining,” a bad-faith argument akin to intimidation. “If you don’t know what the ‘AR’ in AR-15 stands for, you don’t get to talk” explains the sarcastic subhead. If you don’t know what the “AR” in AR-15 stands you still get to talk. But if you want to ban or confiscate AR-15s and you haven’t taken the time to learn what the AR stands for, then gun owners have every right to call you out..." http://thefederalist.com/2018/03/07/if-youre-trying-to-ban-guns-the-least-you-can-do-is-learn-the-basics/

Aaron McGrogor 1 month, 2 weeks ago

Make sure to get your vocabulary lesson in before you have an opinion folks.

Seriously though, while you should always strive to know as much as you can about what you're talking about, this whole argument "If you don't know what the AR in AR-15 stands for, you don't get to argue anything" is just bs from people desperate for any reason to pick apart an argument they don't like.

William D'Armond 1 month, 2 weeks ago

Actually Aaron, it is a pretty viable argument that simply show that you know absolutely 0 about what you are trying to argue. If you spend more time playing games on your phone, tablet or computer than you do to research a topic that you are so passionately trying to debate, then maybe you shouldn't be in the argument. Let CNN or MSNBC or FoxNews do the debating for you, at least they are trying to put fact based arguments together.

Aaron McGrogor 1 month, 1 week ago

"FoxNews do the debating" ... "they are trying to put fact based arguments" Do you do this on purpose?

And no, it does not show that you know absolutely nothing. It only shows that you do not know this one vocabulary question. However with this and your other posts you HAVE shown that you love to jump to conclusions and try to insult other people when they think differently from you.

Richard Quinlan 1 month, 2 weeks ago

I commend these kids for taking the time to stand up and be counted for a cause they care dearly about. These kids will be our leaders tomorrow and while they may not have every avenue of discussion mastered on the issue they care deeply enough to get involved. One can read this forum and see that the majority of adults are fairly uninformed on a daily basis. Cudos to our kids for standing up and stepping out !

William D'Armond 1 month, 2 weeks ago

Are they really standing up for a cause, or just using it for a reason to get out of class for the day? I would be willing to bet 10% know the full meaning behind what they are doing, the other 90% are screaming "Cool, we get out of class and get to go chill at the park with our friends without getting in to trouble".

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 1 month, 2 weeks ago

So you aren't the least concerned about the mass shootings and the lives lost? Good to know.

Of course, some will just use it to get out of class. Kind of like how some refused to go to the draft, because they felt the Vietnam was wrong, but others avoided the draft with bone spurs and lack of potty training, so they could play college sports and play rock music.

Bob Summers 1 month, 2 weeks ago

So you aren't the least concerned about the mass shootings and the lives lost? Good to know.

Says the ideology that gives sanctuary the murderers and rapists of MS-13.

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 1 month, 2 weeks ago

So all members of MS-13 are here illegally, and all hispanics here illegally are in MS-13? You do know what this spells, don't you. B-I-G-O-T-R-Y.

Brandon Devlin 1 month, 2 weeks ago

My eldest was one of the FSHS students who walked out on 2/21. . .we talked about it, as I wanted to get his opinion and gauge where he stands on the issue. (Teenagers in my house rarely give me opinions on anything other than sports and video games.) What surprised me the most was that he almost felt like he had to do it. . .his teacher told the class that he would be walking out and locking the classroom door. So the students would either have to go outside with him, or they had to go to another room and wait. (As if kids don't have enough peer pressure to deal with.)

In the end, I think that he ended up doing it because he felt solidarity with other students doing it for a cause that everyone can get behind (school safety.) Bonus, it allowed the two of us to have an honest conversation about guns, gun ownership and safety, and the rights afforded to us by the Constitution.

A win-win situation as far as I can tell.

Maddy Griffin 1 month, 1 week ago

The walkout is schedule for 9:50 to 10:20. Hardly an entire day.

Joshua Cain 1 month, 2 weeks ago

This walk out paves the way for what some would consider unallowable walk outs that differ from this walk out position. Would we be willing to support those efforts in the name of their inspiration to weigh in on issues? Or would they be censored for having a less popular position?

Bob Smith 1 month, 2 weeks ago

In other news: "...On Wednesday’s broadcast of “Morning Joe,” Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) went to the mat with show co-host Joe Scarborough on gun control, AR-15s, and the Supreme Court. Throughout their exchange, Scarborough dishonestly tried to pretend that he knew more about the Supreme Court than Cruz, even though the senator has personally argued nine cases before them. As one might expect, Scarborough wasn’t quite up to the task of proving himself a distinguished constitutional scholar. But before he made a fool out of himself by trying to outsmart Cruz on how the Supreme Court works, Scarborough parroted the now-omnipresent liberal talking point that AR-15s are uniquely destructive weapons [emphasis in bold mine throughout]:..." https://townhall.com/tipsheet/chrisreeves/2018/03/07/ted-cruz-battles-with-morning-joe-over-gun-control-n2458592

Brandon Devlin 1 month, 2 weeks ago

It is these kinds of "facts" that just cause all kinds of problems:

Switzerland does not give every citizen a gun. Swiss males are expected to serve in the militia from age 18-30 (34 if they are an officer.) As a member of the militia, they are issued a weapon, and upon the conclusion of their service period, they can choose to keep the weapon or turn it in. However, to do so, they must submit paperwork for a weapons permit, the same as if they were to purchase one. Women do not have compulsory service, but those who choose to serve have the same choice at the conclusion of their service.

Switzerland actually has a very strict weapons permit policy, excluding non-residents from several countries from being able to have a weapons permit.

While recreational shooting remains incredibly popular in Switzerland, and shooting clubs require members to be trained in the "care and feeding" of their firearm, there is no government program, outside of military training, on use of a firearm.

Beverly Stauffer Thrower 1 month, 1 week ago

Thanks for that post, Brandon. This particular meme has been driving me crazy lately, as those posting it don't seem to have bothered to take the 1.5 minutes required using Google to find out what Swiss gun policy actually is. The picture is also misleading.

Richard Heckler 1 month, 2 weeks ago

Gun ownership does not need to include assault type weapons, military style automatic weapons, weapons with magazine capability or SWAT style weapons.

Assault weapons must be taken off the retail market, the black market and not allowed in gun shows.

Military and law enforcement weapons when retired MUST be melted down and perhaps brought back as picinic tables.

Arming teachers is shallow thinking. Security officers are acceptable HOWEVER they cannot stop an action if they don't when a shooting is going to take place or where it will take place

Regarding the gun issue. What is the true motivation is the question? I say it has little to with rights to have lethal assault weapons and more to do with a back door method of building right wing armed militias.

GET all assault weapons off the market, off the streets, out of homes no matter what then make it a felony to own or sell one!!!!

Law enforcement KNOWS damn well this open carry places them and all of us in harms way to a greater extreme than ever before.

William D'Armond 1 month, 1 week ago

Said the guy who has never touched a firearm, let alone fired one. The closest you have been to a firearm is walking through the sporting goods section of a Walmart. You post oozes of ignorance. Go join the ignorant politicians in California. Maybe with you, the state can become their own independent nation. Maybe we should make Ignorant retorts to a debate that you have done zero research to back up a Felony. Please do not breed.

Bill Pasquel 1 month, 1 week ago

“I just signed on because I saw other walkout events across the country and thought I’d want to be supportive of the students in my neighborhood,” Barth said. “I want them to know that the adults around them care about what happens to them.”

Ergo..."I am a conformist millennial that has no real opinion, really. It's like, so like, a great feeling to be a part of a, like, whole BIG, group. Like, that's the BEST about being a 'joiner'. You never have to, like, make your own decisions. This is like, one of the most important things that I learned from my parents, and like, other adults. I am such a JOINER! This event is awesome"!

Dear Lord...

Bob Summers 1 month, 1 week ago

"Maybe if schools taught kids to follow the rules and laws"

Right. Like that will ever happen.

Richard Heckler 1 month, 1 week ago

WE don't need to own assault weapons, military syle assault weapons, weapons that can accept magazines or SWAT team style weapons. The second amendment did not approve these weapons.

Politicians will say anything to shut americans up about guns when in reality are only waiting for this massive teen slaughter situation to run out of steam.

Nothing will change.

This is why the loud voices for replacing all laws with a few new regulations need to stay active and loud.

Assault weapons must be taken off the retail market, the black market and not allowed in gun shows. Then make it a felony to own or sell one!!!!

Military and law enforcement weapons when retired MUST be melted down and perhaps brought back as picinic tables.

Arming teachers is shallow thinking. Security officers are acceptable HOWEVER they cannot stop an action if they don't when a shooting is going to take place or where it will take place

Law enforcement KNOWS damn well assault weapons and open carry places them and all of us in harms way to a greater extreme than ever before.

William D'Armond 1 month, 1 week ago

You are getting really good at copy and paste... you might actually figure out that the buttons on a keyboard can create your own words! Technically a bayonet is an military assault weapon. Are you going to say we can't own knives next? What is sold to civilians and what is military grade are two different thing.

Our government would never melt down firearms that they could sell to 3rd world countries to bolster our interest in their region. So as much as you want picinic tables for Yogi and Booboo, that will never happen.

As for arming teachers, many already have and are currently in possession of concealed weapons permits. We wouldn't want teachers with mentalities like your to be in possession of a firearm because they would probably shoot themselves accidentally. However, allowing teachers who are comfortable with firearms the ability to have them on school property eliminates a "gun-free" zone that screams that a criminal who is armed has nothing to worry about.

Your post sounds like a 2 year old who swears there is a monster in the closet, even though they have never seen one. Quit letting your fear of a firearm try to trample on my rights to own a firearm.

Bob Smith 1 month, 1 week ago

If I had a nickle for every time Richard has repeated a post on this site, I'd have enough nickles to sink a cruise ship.

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Bob Smith 1 month, 1 week ago

What does this ancient set of links have to do with firearms laws, Richard?

Louie White 1 month, 1 week ago

William D'Armond, please. Sowflakes spending all day on the phone...too dumb to breed etc. C'mon man, mellow out.

William D'Armond 1 month, 1 week ago

Louie, Just trying to have some fun and push some buttons, as many people do. We live in such a emotionally unstable world where a simple word can cause someone to be so offended that they need to put together a rally or march. Maybe I pushed it too far, but to me, it was all in good fun. The gun-control debate is so extreme there are people providing arguments that make zero sense and show there has been no research on their parts. They should sit back and read, not put their illogical senseless rhetoric out there.

1 month, 1 week ago

No matter the side of the gun debate, there is so much anger and tension in our country. Kids are scared, period.

Gary Stussie 1 month, 1 week ago

“The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let’s not have any native militia or native police. German troops alone will bear the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order throughout the occupied Russian territories, and a system of military strong-points must be evolved to cover the entire occupied country.” ...Adolf Hitler at a dinner talk on April 11, 1942

Gary Stussie 1 month, 1 week ago

Here’s a 20th century history of what happens after governments have disarmed their citizens:

1911 – Turkey disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1915 – 1917 they murdered 1.5 million Armenians.

1929 – Russia disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1929 – 1953 they murdered 20 million Russians.

1935 – China disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1948 – 1952 they murdered 20 million Chinese.

1938 – Germany disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1939 – 1945 they murdered 16 million Jews.

1956 – Cambodia disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1975 – 1977 they murdered 1 million Educated people.

1964 – Guatamala disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1964 – 1981 they murdered 100,000 Mayan Indians.

1970 – Uganda disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1971 – 1979 they murdered 300,000 Christians.

Bob Summers 1 month, 1 week ago

Liberals will have a hard time taking other peoples property in this country.

They can bully all they want.

Richard Heckler 1 month ago

The NRA's primary function for the past 38 years is to fund political candidates who will grant them permission to do nothing else. Yes a political action committee which became such to skirt campaign contribution regulations.

So many decades ago I do remember being a NRA member after accomplishing my marksmanship merit badge. This was after a few years of hunting with immediate members of my family and before boot camp at which time I was exposed a bit more powerful ammunition.

All was long before conservatives decided to own organizations and reduce them to political action committees in order to break some campaign laws. The state and national level Chambers of Commerce also are victims of the conservative right.

Richard Heckler 1 month ago

Anyone who believes a few small militia units will be any match for local law enforcement, US military, an FBI team or a SWAT team is not thinking clearly.

Voting for clear thinking representatives might be the better solution. Which means replacing a few thousand reckless thinking conservatives throughout the nation.

Register and VOTE VOTE VOTE. DON"T WAIT. Keep in mind there is a minority of people with tons of money that have taken over a once clear thinking republican party. Yes republicans in public office have become an endangered species.

How many democrat and old school republican VOTERS been purged from the voting rolls?

Check your status frequently.

Voters PROTECT Your Right To Vote = ORGANIZE A VOTING DAY PACKET to include plenty of existing ID. Who needs more ID?

--- a birth certificate

--- a drivers license or state ID card

--- proof of voter registration etc etc etc.

--- Military Discharge Papers

--- Passports

--- Keep this packet close to protect your right to vote

Do it today in case it is discovered one or more of the above cannot be found. None of these are difficult to replace. But will take time.

Conservatives believe in voter suppression and believe voter suppression is effective. https://www.alecexposed.org/wiki/ALEC_Exposed

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