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Religious freedom caucuses set up in Kansas Legislature, eight other states

October 9, 2012

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— Claiming religious freedom is under assault, 120 legislators in nine states, including Kansas, announced on Tuesday the formation of caucuses that they said would be dedicated to protecting religion from government intrusion.

"It's time for us to make a stand," said state Rep. John DeBerry, a Democrat from Tennessee and Church of Christ minister.

He complained that children are being taught in public schools that faith is ignorant and that there are attempts to remove religious symbols, such as crosses, from cemeteries. Charges have been made that the ACLU has filed a lawsuit to remove military cross-shaped headstones, but the ACLU says it has never litigated such a proposal.

Debbie Lesko, a Republican state legislator from Arizona, said President Barack Obama's policy of requiring insurance carriers serving religious institutions to offer coverage for birth control was an example of government violating the tenets of certain religions.

Caucuses have been formed in Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Idaho, Kansas, Missouri, New Hampshire, Oklahoma and Tennessee. The American Religious Freedom Program is part of the Washington D.C.-based Ethics and Policy Center.

The group said it hoped to form religious freedom caucuses in all 50 states by the end of 2013.

The group said 27 Kansas legislators have signed up; 26 Republicans and one Democrat.

Of the 120 legislators in the nine states, organizers did not have a breakdown of their political and religious affiliation.

According to organizers, here are the Kansas legislators that have joined the caucus: Rep. Tom Arpke; Sen. Steve Abrams; Rep. Benny Boman; Rep. Steve Brunk; Rep. Pete DeGraaf; Rep. Mario Goico; Rep. Amanda Grosserode; Rep. Dennis Hedke; Rep. Jerry Henry; Rep. Kyle Hoffman; Rep. James Howell; Rep. Steve Huebert; Rep. Kasha Kelley; Rep. Lance Kinzer; Sen. Garrett Love; Sen. Julia Lynn; Rep. Peggy Mast; Sen. Ty Masterson; Sen. Ray Merrick; Rep. Virgil Peck; Sen. Mary Pilcher-Cook; Rep. Marc Rhoades; Rep. John Rubin; Rep. Ronald W. Ryckman; Rep. Joseph Scapa; Rep. Scott Schwab; Rep Clark Shultz.

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1 year, 6 months ago

@ Armstrong I'm Wiccan, can I join this caucus?

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donttreadonme 1 year, 6 months ago

Every President has been a Christian, and 99% of every federal and state legislator are Christians, and there's religious persecution? Right.

Just more wingnuttery from the nanny state GOP. Don't believe the fig leaf of a few Democrats, this is part of the GOP plan to control our society.

I don't want prayer in schools, I'm not paying taxes for folks to waste time with their personal beliefs. Just like I don't get paid at work to pray.

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yourworstnightmare 1 year, 6 months ago

To these people, religious freedom has come to mean the freedom to impose your religious beliefs on others and to use your religious beliefs as an excuse for bigotry and hate.

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Catalano 1 year, 6 months ago

"The group said 27 Kansas legislators have signed up; 26 Republicans and one Democrat. Of the 120 legislators in the nine states, organizers did not have a breakdown of their political and religious affiliation. According to organizers, here are the Kansas legislators that have joined the caucus: ... "

Yeah, but come on Scott...YOU surely know who the Democrat is. This is your beat. Don't be lazy. Thank you.

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Cait McKnelly 1 year, 6 months ago



Ironic, no? This is just about as hypocritical as it gets and proof positive that their REAL God is "mammon".
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oldexbeat 1 year, 6 months ago

And the rightwing nut Brownback, recently converted to very right wing Roman Catholic belief, the one church that killed more people that didn't believe their beliefs than any other.

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JackMcKee 1 year, 6 months ago

Religious freedom under attack. In Kansas. The state that just passed an anti Sharia law. OK. LOL.

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Roland Gunslinger 1 year, 6 months ago

"Claiming religious freedom is under assault..."

Oh yes... the war on Christianity.

I pray that one day we may live in America where Christians can worship freely! In broad daylight! Openly wearing symbols of their religion... perhaps around their necks? And maybe one day... dare I dream it? One day there can be an openly Christian president. Or, perhaps, 44 of them. Consecutively.

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atiopatioo 1 year, 6 months ago

The Pilgrims left their homeland because they couldn't caucus. Evidently, there were people that were not civil and didn't allow them to be themselves.

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Cait McKnelly 1 year, 6 months ago



Juxtapose this with the recent "Pulpit Freedom" Sunday where over 1400 churches endorsed political candidates from the pulpit in a deliberate nose thumbing to the IRS.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/08/pulpit-freedom-sunday-pastors-defy-tax-rules-back-political-candidates_n_1948284.html?utm_hp_ref=religion
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50YearResident 1 year, 6 months ago

Freedom of Religion........In order for that to work we have to eliminate those groups that are not a Religion. There are too many so called "Religions" that are using a guaranteed freedom to gain a large enough foothold to eventually overthrow the government. If it is allowed to continue there eventually will be one religion, and it is not going to be Christians.

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verity 1 year, 6 months ago

The really sad thing is that so many so-called Christians actually believe that they are being persecuted---and any number of politicians are not only willing, but eager, to fan the flames and then take advantage of it.

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beatrice 1 year, 6 months ago

One thing I like about non-believers is that they never knock on my door to tell me about what they don't believe in.

Anyone who argues that people are being prevented from practicing the religion of their choice in America apparently haven't visited many other countries. Heck, our government even gives people tax breaks for giving money to their religious institutions, the exact opposite of pursecution, in my opinion.

To borrow Rep. John DeBerry's words, It is time we take a stand. We can no longer afford to give tax-exempt status to churches. We are borrowing money from China so organized religions can build castles to themselves!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kInrbpjNOvo

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Armstrong 1 year, 6 months ago

While the pre pubescent crowd is yucking it up, what you gifted individuals need to remember is the following because you are responsible for it. Actually you are probably owed a big thank you. So thanks.

"It's time for us to make a stand," said state Rep. John DeBerry, a Democrat from Tennessee and Church of Christ minister.

He complained that children are being taught in public schools that faith is ignorant and that there are attempts to remove religious symbols, such as crosses, from cemeteries.

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tange 1 year, 6 months ago

Agnostick: Another "solution," creating a "problem" out of thin air to justify its own existence.

What modern American Xhristian worth his salt-of-the-earth can't caucus up a little self-validating persecution?

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cowboy 1 year, 6 months ago

Breaking news..... Ks Legislators invoke new procedure prior to any vote... Go outside and wait for Skygods to send message

Whack jobs !

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Niemoller 1 year, 6 months ago

What is misunderstood is the Constitution. When this party of the Christ wins their big religious freedom crusade, they win for all religions! But the forget that. Point: who is to say that the Muslim take over from the inside isn't real? When the so call Christians when their great victory on religious freedom, I see that as a perfect time for the Muslims to come out of their political closets and F*&% some S^#! up. Be careful what freedoms you fight for, because in America, they apply to whoever happens to be in power. Today you might be fighting for the right to not have birth control offered to your employees, tomorrow you might be fighting for the right to put up a Christmas tree in Time Square. Realize what it is you are trying to do and pretend for one moment you are a different sect.

Disclaimer I am in no way against Muslims or the Islamic religion, but I do know how afraid Christians are of them, to a point that it is pathetic. This is the only reason I would use the Islamic religion in this way. I unconditionally respect all faiths and believe they can live in peace. If I have offended anyone...grow up.

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Enlightenment 1 year, 6 months ago

Religion has no place in government. I'd like to see the Republicans take away all religious based issues in their party platform so that the real topics that the GOP supports can be seen. You'd be left with tax cuts for the wealthy, less government regulation for corporations, and more government funded programs to benefit the wealthy. I can understand why the wealthy support the GOP, whereas the middle or low income voter support the GOP because of the party's facade of faux religious based issues.

This religious attack on government is similar to the NRA's political interests, which have almost nothing to do with the constitutional right to bear arms. This conservative organization seems to only spread misinformation to naive voters who are hunting enthusiasts that believe the NRA's claim that their hunting rights are in jeopardy if a Democrat gets in office.

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mom_of_three 1 year, 6 months ago

Nice of them to provide a list of the clueless

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Agnostick 1 year, 6 months ago

Another "solution," creating a "problem" out of thin air to justify its own existence.

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autie 1 year, 6 months ago

Somedude, I think that looks more like Rita Hayworth.

jhawkinsf, it is too my government. Just like my daddy is MY daddy...he just happens to have more than one child.

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Armstrong 1 year, 6 months ago

It would seem liberals are a much greater threat to freedom of religion then the government as witnessed by the rants of our loony left posters.

/ Source

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Stuart Evans 1 year, 6 months ago

Teaching evolution to children in school is not an attack on religion. If gods were real, the scientific evidence would be overwhelming, like it is for evolution, but it is not. In fact, it's non-existent; there is ZERO evidence of any gods, anywhere, ever. That is why all the old gods from Greek, Roman, Norse, etc. are all taught under mythology, where someday soon, I hope Christianity, Islam & Judaism will end up.

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hyperinflate 1 year, 6 months ago

OK all you religiously oppressed folks out there who think that the gubment shouldn't make your insurance company pay for birth control because they hate your freedoms ... here's a hypothetical* for you:

There's a religious minority in this country called the Christian Identity who believes Black people are of the devil. Should a practitioner of Christian Identity who happens to own a company be able to tell his [it's always a he] insurance company that they can't cover treatment for sickle cell anemia since that's a disease that primarily afflicts African Americans?

  • Consult an educated person in your life if you don't know what this means. Sadly, this probably means you'll have to talk to a non-believer, but it won't hurt too awful bad.
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autie 1 year, 6 months ago

I'll keep my government out of your religion...just as soon as you get your religion out of my government....hayseed charlatans.

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timebomb66 1 year, 6 months ago

What about freedom FROM religion???

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Joe Hyde 1 year, 6 months ago

This group of politicians -- almost exclusively Republicans -- don't like President Obama. Gee, I'm shocked. Their presidential candidate of choice is trailing Obama in the polls, and so to help the Republican cause they make this grandstand gesture about combating "assaults on religion" -- frantically pulling levers and pushing hot buttons to spur all the good little ponies to run straight to the polls and vote "Republicans for Christ", or whatever. Gee, I'm shocked.

The actual point of the exercise, of course, being to distract gullible voters from giving a moment's thought to the economic harm that will befall the nation if the failed trickle-down economic practices of previous Republican presidents, combined a combative foreign policy, both get re-instituted under Mitt Romney. Which they would, because Romney has surrounded himself with a large number of George W. Bush's advisers and operatives.

But hey, let's don't talk about more years of bloody war, and obscene war profiteering. And for God's sake avoid examining the policies that deliberate weakened the American middle class to the low point it's presently in. Instead, let's do the easy thing and go ballistic about an "assault on religion".

What a bunch of cowards.

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Gary Anderson 1 year, 6 months ago

soooooo...a bunch of government workers want to band together to protect religion from government workers messing with religion...that plan certainly makes sense...

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markoo 1 year, 6 months ago

Never seen so many Christians play the victim card. How pathetic. O'Reilly would be proud.

I doubt Jesus would approve, however.

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somedude20 1 year, 6 months ago

Spit!!!!

Religion is not under attack, rather religious people are attacking ANYTHING that they don't agree with to get their way. "It is against my god for me to rent to black people." "God don't want no homos to live in no place that I own." "If god wanted females to have unmarried sex, he'd predestine them for a legitimate rape." "God don't want you to take pills that go against the nature of pregnancy, thats just unnatural, but if you are old and nature aint giving you a stiffy, god wants you to take this little blue pill."

Many years back, religion did more good than harm, that can't be said today!

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KansasLiberal 1 year, 6 months ago

Oh those poor christians, constantly under attack. If only they could persecute gays and muslims and force their beliefs on the rest of us in peace.

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Glenn Reed 1 year, 6 months ago

A bunch of idiots who misunderstand the concept of religious freedom...

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beerbaron03 1 year, 6 months ago

ever notice how people who say they're pro-religious freedom are actually just pro-Christian and anti-anything else?

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