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10th Circuit Court of Appeals upholds state’s approved route of South Lawrence Trafficway through the Baker Wetlands

Strands of grass arch over a marsh at the Baker Wetlands on Tuesday, with 31st Street seen in the background. On Tuesday, the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the state's approved route of the South Lawrence Trafficway plan through the Baker Wetlands.

Strands of grass arch over a marsh at the Baker Wetlands on Tuesday, with 31st Street seen in the background. On Tuesday, the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the state's approved route of the South Lawrence Trafficway plan through the Baker Wetlands.

July 10, 2012, 12:25 p.m. Updated July 11, 2012, 12:17 a.m.

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It is now full speed ahead for completion of the South Lawrence Trafficway.

And, opponents say, for the end of the Baker Wetlands as they know them.

A three-judge panel of the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals on Tuesday came down decisively in favor of a route that will allow the long-debated bypass to be built through the Baker Wetlands.

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The strong wording of the ruling led leaders with the Kansas Department of Transportation to declare that any further legal battles involving the road are unlikely.

“I think it is important to point out that the court agreed with KDOT and FHWA’s (Federal Highway Administration) position in every instance,” said Josh Powers, a spokesman for KDOT. “We feel like it really does put an end to this matter from a legal standpoint.”

The ruling could be appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court, or the full 10th Circuit Court of Appeals could be asked to hear the case. But Bob Eye, a lead attorney for the trafficway opponents, stopped well short of promising an appeal. He noted that even if his clients did pursue an appeal, the Supreme Court could decide not to hear the case.

“I feel like I have been kicked in the gut,” Eye said. “It is very disappointing. We are now, obviously, at a crucial point.”

The bypass project, which has been debated for more than two decades, would link Kansas Highway 10 east of Lawrence with the previously constructed western portion of the bypass, which ends at Iowa Street on a dead-end bridge that has become known as the “Bridge to Nowhere.”

In total, the bypass will take motorists from Kansas Highway 10 east of Lawrence to Interstate 70 west of Lawrence.

Powers said construction on the final six miles of the roadway is expected to begin in October 2013. He said the roadway is expected to be open to traffic by fall 2016.

“We really believe this project is going to serve as a cultural and economic corridor,” Powers said. “The project finally will connect Johnson County, Lawrence and Topeka.”

KDOT engineers had been reluctant to undertake many of the more advanced planning items needed to move the road project forward. Powers said the ruling now clears the way for full-scale road preparations to begin. He said KDOT leaders in the coming days will begin making formal offers to purchase properties along the roadway’s route.

The project — estimated to have a $150 million construction cost — already has won funding in the state’s comprehensive transportation program.

The legal issues surrounding the case were largely seen as the last remaining hurdle for the road project.

In January, opponents of the roadway, which included the Prairie Band Pottawatomie Indian tribe, the Sierra Club and several other environmental organizations, made arguments to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals to overturn a lower court’s decision to allow the road to be built through the Baker Wetlands.

Opponents argued the environmental impact statement for the project ran afoul of the National Environmental Policy Act and Department of Transportation noise standards. Opponents also argued the road would negatively affect historic sites at Haskell Indian Nations University, which is adjacent to the Baker Wetlands, and that roadway builders had not properly considered a route that would have built the road south of the Wakarusa River.

The court ultimately rejected all the arguments. It called any errors made in the noise analysis of the project “harmless,” and said the south-of-the river route proposed by opponents of the trafficway actually would be more dangerous for drivers because of the number of curves that would have to be designed into the road.

“Finding no fatal flaws in the environmental impact statement or the prudence analysis, we affirm the judgment of the district court,” the judges wrote in the decision.

The ruling brought a variety of reactions from political leaders across the area.

A spokeswoman for U.S. Sen. Pat Roberts said the senator was “gratified by the decision as he has been a champion for the high-tech corridor for more than a decade.”

Lawrence Mayor Bob Schumm praised the ruling.

“We’re happy to hear it,” Schumm said. “It will mean a lot of economic prosperity for us in the future. It is a good day.”

Reaction from Douglas County Commission Chairman Mike Gaughan was more mixed.

“This debate is part of our community,” Gaughan said. “There are deeply held beliefs on both sides. People will continue to fight for their perspective and point of view. Practically speaking, if this goes forward, it is our job to make sure we protect the environment and ensure that it’s implemented in such a way that we can protect our historical heritage.”

Opponents on Tuesday largely were focused on what the ruling would mean to the Baker Wetlands.

“It is difficult because you see a resource so beautiful and so valuable, and they are now very clearly so much in jeopardy,” Eye said. “I think today’s ruling says that there are no wetlands anywhere that are really safe.”

KDOT leaders, though, are confident mitigation efforts will create new man-made wetlands that will become a robust, public nature area. The mitigation efforts will include the creation of more than 300 acres of new wetlands as well as bike paths, a camping grounds area, and cultural wetlands education center operated by Baker University.

“It is important to understand that we are impacting 56 acres of wetlands, but we are creating 304 acres of new wetlands,” Powers said. “The fact of the matter is this project will address both the transportation needs of Douglas County, Lawrence, Shawnee County and Johnson County, and it will, we believe, also enhance the wetlands.”

Eye said no court ruling will convince his clients of that.

“The idea that you can just pull new wetlands off the shelf and assume they will be a suitable substitute for what Mother Nature has endowed us with is a dubious prospect to say the least,” Eye said. “It illustrates the hubris that many people have in thinking they can override Mother Nature with human endeavors.

“We all need to be reminded that Mother Nature bats last.”

— Reporter Alex Garrison contributed to this report.

Comments

Liberal 1 year, 9 months ago

Could it be any more ironic that Haskell used the "wetlands" their sacred grounds as a dump?

Take a look at these pictures....

Save the sacred dump!

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Flap Doodle 1 year, 9 months ago

you know there is such a thing as a run-on sentence?

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Mike Ford 1 year, 9 months ago

you know in the last three days the United Methodist Church headquarters in DC and Nashville and the bishop in Wichita have been contacted because Baker University, a college now teaching the worship of money instead of education and tolerence answers to the United Methodist Church where my parent was a minister for 40 years. If they take enough heat they will yank Baker's chain on this whole issue of infringing on indigenous first amendment rights to worship. The US Supreme Court defends the rights of wonderful people like Fred Phelps.... I'd think that if that's the case the worship at Haskell would be protected.

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KCoutsider 1 year, 9 months ago

For those of you looking for some history and aerial photos, I think this is what you were asking about - http://www2.ljworld.com/weblogs/did_i...

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Flap Doodle 1 year, 9 months ago

Will the usual carpers and whiners be reclining in front of the bulldozers when construction begins?

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Gotland 1 year, 9 months ago

Using the environment and native rights as a ruse to block development does a disservice to these groups’ credibility. This is a tactic used more and more by the ”haves” in our society.

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blindrabbit 1 year, 9 months ago

Someone please refresh my memory: give us a run-down on the East Lawrence Connector proposed several years ago. I thought it was to run from about Noria Road (near K-10) then utilizing the Mass. Street bridges over the Kaw. If so this would seem to create so real traffic issues in the downtown area. I have also heard that the route would involve a new bridge, East of downtown with a tie-in to the turnpike (maybe using the East Lawrence Turnpike Exchange in North Lawrence. My guess is that KDOT would be real reluctant to build a new bridge, and maybe the KTA would likewise be reluctant to build yet another exchange in addition to those at Tonganoxie and Lecompton .Maybe make more sense to use the Eudora Bridge and upgrade Leavenworth Route 1 to the new Tonganoxie turnpike Exchange Hope sanity prevails, if not this project couild be real boondoggle with a expensive pony-up.

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user111 1 year, 9 months ago

Hello? is this thing on? The SLT will provide limited benefit to east/west and west/east drivers who don't want to go on a LOOPY excursion to take them around town. They want an elevated road, EAST OF TOWN, that connects I-70 and I-10 where they are closest (clear-shot style). I call it the East Lawrence Connector (it's a fraction of the length of the entire SLT). You can call it what you want (East Lawrence Bypass is one some folks are using). But that's what we really need. Not this SLT boondoggle. I mean, c'mon...

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Flap Doodle 1 year, 9 months ago

Is the random substitution an "e" for an "a" in desecration part of your grand plan, tuschie? ( .................... from .................... a .................... dictionary .................... )

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Mike Ford 1 year, 9 months ago

you'll think that when the state is settling with plantiffs for desecreting the burial sites of those kids........how american of you......

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treeforest 1 year, 9 months ago

I mourn for another crushing blow to Native Americans - their reasons for wanting to protect this scared site are so often looked over (and not even mentioned in this article). One would think that after 300+ years of chipping away at Native American interests in the name of progress, development and civilization, modern government would say "Okay, okay. You can have this site that is sacred to you and full of history." No, it must be destroyed for the sake of commerce.

By the way, you misspelled the name of the Prairie Band Potawatomi tribe. How was this missed by the writer and the editor.... or is it simply not important?

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RETICENT_IRREVERENT 1 year, 9 months ago

Blue,
Will you still be driving that yellow escape in 2016?

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autie 1 year, 9 months ago

and who builds a marsh you cain't duck hunt on? that's just crazy.

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blue73harley 1 year, 9 months ago

Unwrapping the award winning LJW this morning was like Christmas in July.

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jackbinkelman 1 year, 9 months ago

Somehow, I am guessing the money will run out after the road is built, but before the new wetlands are created and cultural wetlands education center, bike paths & camping areas built. Wouldn't surprise me one bit.

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Flap Doodle 1 year, 9 months ago

BTW, that's a good photo at the top of this thread.

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yourworstnightmare 1 year, 9 months ago

To bozo from earlier:

We cannot undo what has been done in the past. The best we can do is to make sure that all are treated fairly and with respect in the here and now and try to guarantee that for the future.

The balancing act for Native Americans, and for other minority racial/ethnic groups in America, is one between preserving your culture and heritage but at the same time integrating into modern society to take advantage of its benefits.

I personally think that some at Haskell are cutting off their nose to spite their face by opposing the SLT, when they could have used it as an opportunity to both enhance their cultural representation and to cooperate with Lawrence and be a part of the Lawrence social structure, instead of opposing it because of past injustice.

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Centerville 1 year, 9 months ago

Taking this opportunity that Kansas Lifelines (the highway PAC) gave its top awards to Tom Holland, Paul Davis and Marci Francisco for their votes to 'pave the way' for the SLT. Take a bow!

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consumer1 1 year, 9 months ago

Joe Cocker, "Cry me a river".

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Flap Doodle 1 year, 9 months ago

And thus did the sounds of the whining and moaning ascend into the firmament......

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autie 1 year, 9 months ago

They simply need to install a worm hole by the bridge to nowhere..in fact it could dump right into the worm hole which could exit over just east of Haskell. Then nobody would have to worry about the manmade swamps, ghost or bones.

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Curtis Lange 1 year, 9 months ago

Scumbag LJWorld: Use map for cover photo. Larger image nowhere to be found when clicking it.

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dee66044 1 year, 9 months ago

Booooooo Booooooo "harmless" my butt!

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Mike Ford 1 year, 9 months ago

love to hear can't have it's racist comments....oh well.......

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Cant_have_it_both_ways 1 year, 9 months ago

If Haskell spent as much money on the campus as they have on fighting the SLT, the place would not be such an eyesore. Enough time has passed, it is time to defund the BIA and integrate those into the one America this nation was intended to be. Maybe all the non native people in Lawrence looking for a job should apply at Haskell, then sue them for descrimination. It seems that Haskell is a festering pool of bigotry as a whole with no clear plan to get better.

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Flap Doodle 1 year, 9 months ago

Will the frogs be able to tolerate the increase in the water's salinity from the bitter tears of the disappointed obstructionists today?

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Gotland 1 year, 9 months ago

Can we sue the obstructionist parties for money, time and lives lost?

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Liberty275 1 year, 9 months ago

It makes me chuckle every time somebody calls a flood plain a wetland. Look at the southern 100 miles of mainland Florida and you'll see what a wetland is.

This podunk little town can't even do a swamp right.

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lawdog 1 year, 9 months ago

Why do you say that manginor? Haskell is the only lifeline for many of these kids. My niece just graduated from KU with a Bachelors Degree and that was made possible because of her 2 years at Haskell. Why am I defending Haskell? You brought it up. This comment thread is about the bypass.

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manginorh00lz 1 year, 9 months ago

Shutting down Haskell should be the next priority. That diploma mill is a blight on the city.

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OldEnuf2BYurDad 1 year, 9 months ago

I'm embarrassed by both sides: That the government was so quick to ignore the law, and that the activists really considered it worth fighting over (to this extent). EVERY harp seal and whale in the world could have been saved with the money spent on legal costs for a small road across a relatively TINY piece of wetlands of questionable origin.

Even if they had won: Was it worth it?

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DillonBarnes 1 year, 9 months ago

And not a single source was cited that day.

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Mike Ford 1 year, 9 months ago

no money to do this.... what shell game will the Brownback Administration pull to pay for it? like the Washington State Department of Transportation Project at Port Angeles that desecreted over 350 graves this project will hit bones and will die immediately regardless of the money spent. Klallam tribal members had to go to a warehouse and collect the bones of their ancestors ran over by bulldozers. That Port Angeles Bridge Pontoon launching project was abandoned after $43 million was spent. The Lower Elwha Klallam Tribe was awarded $6 million damages and 8 acres to repatriate the ancestors desecreted by the destruction. The Doctrine of Discovery and the racist denial of indigenous religious beliefs is alive and well.....

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RETICENT_IRREVERENT 1 year, 9 months ago

user111,
An elevated flyway would do nothing but create,concentrate and intensify poor air quality and squander additional public monies. Besides, it could never have been a viable option because there is not enough right-of way to shoehorn it in.

Now let's get the East Lawrence Bypass/I-70 connector ball rolling.

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user111 1 year, 9 months ago

@RI - if you had the East Lawrence Connector and an elevated flyway on top of 23rd, why would you need the SLT?

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RETICENT_IRREVERENT 1 year, 9 months ago

Now we just need to get the East Lawrence Bypass rolling. Lawrence does indeed need an east bypass or trafficway just as it needs a southwest trafficway. The city, county, and state officials need to press ahead on both of these projects as fast and as prudently as possible. Delays after delays mean nothing but higher costs and a handicapping of the continued sound growth of the city. Plans can be worked out for housing those who would be displaced by the East Lawrence Bypass, and traffic would be flowing more easily and safely than it is today.

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Flap Doodle 1 year, 9 months ago

An oddly minimal amount of copy/pasting on this thread so far.

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user111 1 year, 9 months ago

The SLT is the stupidist way EVER to bypass Lawrence going east to west or west to east. It's always been a stupid idea. From day one. Let's face it, the original idea included commercial ventures dotting the route. That never happened and it's not gonna happen. There are two solutions to this problem: 1) a very long elevated road that would cast a shadow over 23rd with exits at Iowa and maybe a few other locations; and 2) the EAST LAWRENCE CONNECTOR: this is also an elevated road and it is a toll entry/exit for I-70. It connects I-70 and K-10 where they are closest (east of town). Problem solved! Next?

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oneeye_wilbur 1 year, 9 months ago

Nothing of substance will change the traffic on 23rd street unless KU is moved south of the river, downtown is moved clear west of town (its headed that way! and of course unless the bridge is removed across the river at 6th street.

Now, Mr. Eye needs to meet oneeye and between us surely two eyes could figure out how to bulld a Casino right alongside the trafficway. Now there would be competition for downtown, 33rd and Iowa and all retail west of town. The new Casino to be called OneEye's kinda like Terrible's in Vegas.

Lawrence is so dumb and cannot move ahead on anything but create obstructions. One eye just visited with a local farmer outside ot town and they are disgusted with the county regulations. Anyt;hing that can hamper progress the county is good at and the city follows suit.

Mr. Eye contact oneeye. Two eyes are better than none.

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IdahoWinds 1 year, 9 months ago

KansasConscience - SOR was seriously considered but it had numerous flaws. 1. The cost of two long bridges over the Waukarusa. 2. It had to cross over two floodways and would have to be elevated an additional 3/4 mile or so 3. Development SOR would have increased traffic on both Haskell Ave and Louisiana St to the point they would have become 4 lane,. 4. 31st str would have remained and become 4 lane inspite of Bozo's emphatic resistance. 5. These four lane roads on three sides of the wetlands would have ultimately caused way more damage to the entire Baker Wetlands than destroying 56 acres along 32nd st and restoring 304 additional acres of wetlands etc. 6. The further it is from Lawrence the less impact the SLT would have on any Lawrence traffic. All of these together is what caused KDOT etc to reject it, not some conspiracy theory about ownership along 31st Str.

Yourworstnightmare has been very eloquent about how this whole mess could have played out differently. It is clear that on this issue there was only one-sided compromise. How unfortunate.

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clarkentsman 1 year, 9 months ago

32nd Street Alignment B is the selected alignment for a future South Lawrence Trafficway

Here is a link to a KDOT site about the road.
http://southlawrencetrafficway.org/

At the bottom of the page is a link to the 32nd Street Alignment B route. Other plans considered can be view using the arrows.

While the existing 31st Street road will be removed a new 31st Street will be built to the south.

The map also shows where the hydric soils are located.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A hydric soil is a soil that formed under conditions of saturation, flooding, or ponding long enough during the growing season to develop anaerobic conditions in the upper part.[1]

This term is part of the legal definition of a wetland included in the United States Food Security Act of 1985 (P.L. 99-198). The US Natural Resources Conservation Service maintains the official list of hydric soils.

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blindrabbit 1 year, 9 months ago

agree, the 23rd. Street business users will not move to the bypass, but a large numbers of 23rders. are not there because the want, but they need to. They are caught up in the need to get accross south side of Lawrence and have no interest in 23rd. Street goings-ons; it is this crowd that will find the bypass a welcome relief. The same thing was said about the K-10 west bypass and the Lecompton turnpike exchange, I think those nay-sayers have been prooven wrong.

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1 year, 9 months ago

160+ comments since the LJW posted the article. Most of them from a select few engaged in throwing epithets and gloating: 'take that you liberal tree-hugging bstrd;" shouts of laughter from the likes of consumer1 and others; assumptions made by those who really have no idea of what they're saying as they're merely repeating ridicule from years past. Not unexpected.

The question was asked, "When will people start using the SLT and not 23rd street?" The answer is that they probably won't. The SLT will not appreciably reduce traffic on 23rd Street (http://www.ncc-1776.org/tle2011/tle644-20111113-06.html).

Not all tree-huggers are dirty liberal hippies. A tree-hugger is in fact a true conservative, like it or not. A tree-hugger is saying, "Wait, step back and look. What is this actually going to cost us, and not just in money?"

South of the Walky was never pursued as a 'viable' alternative. Why not? Is it because the Corps drew the highway through the McMansions south of the river? Something to look at here. I know two hi-dollar McMansions it went thru. Money talks.

Who really owns the frontage from Ousdahl to Louisianna? Follow that money and you'll find who's been pushing the 32nd Street 'alignment.'

Just a few comments and questions which I don't think anyone will want to answer.

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blindrabbit 1 year, 9 months ago

gccs: If comments toward me, not so. Commuted in Washington D.C. 3 years, Phila. 6 years, San Fran. 5 years, Seattle 3 (all of which are a challenge) and Lawrence to K.C. 9 years. 23rd.Street is a mess because there is an easy solution to the problem, one any other city would rapidly solve.

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jjinks 1 year, 9 months ago

This road would have been built a long time ago if the conservatives would have gotten behind the protesters and declared all the buried people that are suppose to be there were conservatives. Stupid lawyers

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Mike George 1 year, 9 months ago

To suggest that this decision is a surprise by any stretch of the imagination is simply not realistic. I think that attorneys are occasionally "guilty" of misleading their groups of clients on the feasibility of a verdict in their favor, when in fact they and their clients may have completely misjudged what the huge majority of citizens and elected officials will find reasonable. I happen to support the project and am frustrated by persons who think that there is a way that they can tug on the cuff of progress and somehow slow it down. Again, they must live in a completely unrealistic environment that they have created. The created wetlands and other facilities will be a terrific addition to our area.

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blindrabbit 1 year, 9 months ago

marytodd; You must live in a cloistered nunnery if you don't think Lawrence needs this road. My most expeidient trip from my location 4 miles west of Lawrence to Eudora: Get on Turnpike at Lecompton, off at East Lawrence, take US24/40 to Kansas 32 (toward Linwood), take Leavenworth County 1 to Eudora. This route is a full 7 miles further than the most direct route through Lawrence on K10-23rd. Street; guess which route I take. A couple of transits accross 23rd (accross Lawrence) will test your paitience and sanity.

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Kelly Barth 1 year, 9 months ago

Underlying most of these comments is the ancient, misguided notion that humans are more important than all other life forms on the planet, that people's needs trump those of all others. Once you dispense with this archaic, outdated notion, it morally condemns this decision. We don't "need" this road.

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yourworstnightmare 1 year, 9 months ago

killerkitten says: "My whole point is this: Go ahead, build your road. Don't come crying to the opposition though when that becomes THE most haunted roadway in America."

Yes, and the mormons are opposed because Jesus appeared in the Baker wetlands and converted the "savages". Ooo, scary! Talk about ghosts!

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observant 1 year, 9 months ago

Just think, if no roads can be built in any location where bodies might be buried, exactly where could any roads be built?

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blindrabbit 1 year, 9 months ago

gccs14r: Would like to know the logic of you argument about going south 1 mile and not "pad the pockets of a selected few". If anything , the 32nd. Street alignment slows down the development to the south and therefore should not aid "the selected few" as you call them. I can imagine, the developers would be more than happy to jump south of the Wauky, and opening all of that land beyond the wetlands. I agree, the community is full of greedy developers and "selected few' but cannot see your point making any sense in this instance. Please explain!

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yourworstnightmare 1 year, 9 months ago

This should have been built long ago. While I am sensitive to the concerns of those opposed, that fact of the matter is that 23rd street is a nightmare and traffic needs a route to west Lawrence from K10.

The problem for the wetlands is that they are next to a city of 100,000 people. Everyone living in Lawrence must take responsibility for this. The efforts to build more wetlands and to educate about wetlands are appropriate. Lawrence must grow to suite the needs of its residents.

As for the concerns about native americans buried on the land, without maps and burial locations, it is simply hearsay as to where and if they are there. It very well may be true, but is there enough evidence to prove it.

We all live in Lawrence. We are all responsible for the congestion and traffic on 23rd and 31st. Sometimes tough decisions must be made, and factors must be balanced.

I hope Lawrence can finally move forward and build the trafficway.

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gccs14r 1 year, 9 months ago

A half-mile wide strip of death, plowed through the middle of a vital water resource, when there exists a better route a mile to the south, and all of that to pad the pockets of a selected few, with a middle finger exteneded to the rest of us. Nice.

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forgetful 1 year, 9 months ago

I always hoped the popular vote - and my vote - would actually count. Long overdue.

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Nonsense 1 year, 9 months ago

""The idea that you can just pull new wetlands off the shelf and assume they will be a suitable substitute for what Mother Nature has endowed us with is a dubious prospect to say the least," Eye said. "It illustrates the hubris that many people have in thinking they can override Mother Nature with human endeavors.

"We all need to be reminded that Mother Nature bats last." "

The current wetlands were man made, not mother nature made. Talk about 'Hubris.'

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irvan moore 1 year, 9 months ago

with all the people who drive from the west side of town east you have to wonder why lawrence didn't develop to the east instead of the west

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Piggles 1 year, 9 months ago

YAY! Oh YIPPPEEEEEE so excited! and it's about time!! Should of been built 30 years ago.

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pizzapete 1 year, 9 months ago

I don't know too much about this project. Where is this road going to take us? Is this going to be a better route to Topeka or KC? Or is this basically being built so people living in West Lawrence don't have to use 23rd as their main road East and West? I'm thinking this is a road I probably will never use.

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somedude20 1 year, 9 months ago

How long until apartments or a Mexican restaurant is built there? Lets compromise, you get the road and they can have a water park built there to keep it as a wetland

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cowgirljayhawk 1 year, 9 months ago

It's a sad sad day for the Baker wetlands...the wildlife (including "bugs", frogs, birds, beaver), all the people that enjoyed the area, and the people that were buried there. It was a roosting locality for migratory birds and butterflies. The Baker wetlands served as a local hot spot for education, community outreach, and research. Thanks to everyone who fought to save this place for so many years. Pavement DOES NOT EQUAL Progress.

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Emily Mae 1 year, 9 months ago

I say take it on up to the Supreme Court!!

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ohjayhawk 1 year, 9 months ago

I do not know for sure if there are or aren't bodies buried in that area, but my question is this. If there are, wouldn't Mr. Eye be bemoaning the fact of the loss of the burial grounds instead of bemoaning the loss of the wetlands in his comments to the media? Wouldn't that be a much greater injustice than the loss of wetlands that are, in fact, not being lost, but moved and expanded?

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FlintlockRifle 1 year, 9 months ago

Dang I sure was hoping I would get to travel the new route, but 10 years to complete that short of stretch can't hang in that long, Doc says

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blindrabbit 1 year, 9 months ago

What is the intended future/outcome of the segment of 31st. street betwwen Louisiana St. and Haskell Ave.once the bypass is built. Will it continue to be a City street? Always thought a major upgrade of 31st to accomplish the bypass needs was the logical way to go anyway.

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Patrick Freeland 1 year, 9 months ago

There will never be a highway through the wetlands...

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notorious_agenda 1 year, 9 months ago

Because of the 32nd street alignment, 31st street between Louisiana and Haskell could be theoretically removed. This is a win for the Indians they just have not thought it through. With 31st street gone they have the ability to challenge Baker for portions of the 'wetlands' to be returned. With 31st street gone there would be less impact from the SLT on the 'wetlands', With 31st street gone the beavers will not plug up the culverts and water will drain out of Lawrence better. It would follow logic that Haskell could get back the portion that lays south to 32nd street at that point. Sadly the parts of the 'wetlands' north of 31st street are not maintained well by the Haskell Indian Nations, instead they are stagnant and covered in aerobic algae that kills all the creatures by suffocation due to all kinds of problems that could be mitigated if they cared.

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remember_username 1 year, 9 months ago

Does anybody really think there will be a wetlands there in a few dozen years anyway? I wonder which will disappear first, the water, or the traffic?

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ljwhirled 1 year, 9 months ago

Build it, build it, build it.

We can then ride our bikes all the way from the dam to downtown.

This will be a great addition to Lawrence and will help to relieve congestion on 23rd St. and on 31st St.

As an added bonus, the mitigation project has added acres and acres of new wetlands.

Great for the environment, great for Lawrence.

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blindrabbit 1 year, 9 months ago

Thought Bob Eye was off base on this whole issue of the wetlands litigation, but he did what he was contracted to do. Regardless, I fully support him and his bid for 2nd. Congressional District Democratic Primary and a run against our bimboesk representative Lynn Jenkins.

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Cant_have_it_both_ways 1 year, 9 months ago

Need to get Tushi's band to play for the ribbon cutting and dedication ceremony!

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lawdog 1 year, 9 months ago

Didnt say anything about "ghosts or haunting " deck doctor! "you" said that in your comment and statement! I studied LAW besides not into paranormal study.

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rockchalk1977 1 year, 9 months ago

Great news... common sense trumps non-sense after all these years!

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lawdog 1 year, 9 months ago

Haha your funny! Bypass wont help anyway! "taste your own words before you spit em out", not here to read your racist remarks. So please refrain, thanks!

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Clearly4Kansas 1 year, 9 months ago

I'm surprised Eye isn't whining about the number of bugs who will lose their life on a windshield after the traffic way is built. If Lawrence sends him to congress all the world will know about KS, that's for sure.

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tbaker 1 year, 9 months ago

Did the court just (finally) create some shovel-ready jobs?

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blindrabbit 1 year, 9 months ago

Anyway, that blighted portion of the wetlands that is north of 31st and between Louisiana and Haskell is a poor, but readily visible portion of the rest of the pristine areas to the south and southwest. It is befouled by runoff from areas to the north and the former cement mixing facility with little or no water circulation with the remainder of the wetlands, hence the stagnant mess that it has become. Hopefully, with the construction of the bypass along the 32nd. street alignment there will be some mitigation of this area.to encoporate it into a viable portion of the wetlands; if not it will continue to drift into a stagnant pond with all of the objections it deserves, and further isolated by both 31st. street and the bypass.

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The_Original_Bob 1 year, 9 months ago

" Don't come crying to the opposition though when that becomes THE most haunted roadway in America."

"The Poltergeist Highway." Coming to you in the Summer of 2022.

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KillerKitten 1 year, 9 months ago

You all should look up the history of Haskell. It didn't start out as a University. Its intention was a boarding school for Indian children to basically "civilize" them. They were taken or given up by their families to become "white people", even though the education they were given was second rate and did little to prepare them for life in a white society. Basically this was the solution because settlers didn't want "uncivilized, non-Christian" Indians in their area, but it was wrong to kill them. (uh yeah).

"Kill the Indian to save the man". More like ethnocide if you ask me.

Anyway, a lot of the bodies buried in the area outlined for the traffic way are children who died in the horrible conditions of the boarding school.

My whole point is this: Go ahead, build your road. Don't come crying to the opposition though when that becomes THE most haunted roadway in America.

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Gotland 1 year, 9 months ago

To all the “environmentalists”: Would it help if I stopped to pee in the wetlands on occasion while I am cruising to Overland Park for some shopping and a movie.

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mr_right_wing 1 year, 9 months ago

!! HORRAY !!

I'm sure hoping it's not gonna end up at the Supreme Court, I wasn't real thrilled with their last ruling.....

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Liberal 1 year, 9 months ago

Quote from Mr. Eye...

"It is difficult because you see a resource so beautiful and so valuable, and they are now very clearly so much in jeopardy," Eye said. "I think today's ruling says that there are no wetlands anywhere that are really safe." ---

So I know you are going to enjoy the fact that they are actually adding wetlands so their can be more beauty Mr. Eye. Thank god for the judges realizing how important more wetlands are to the area!

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lawdog 1 year, 9 months ago

When I attended school at Haskell, I remember one of my professors talking about bodies buried out there.

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drillsgt 1 year, 9 months ago

build it through the middle of KU and see the uproar..really the middle of KU route would be quicker for the west lawrence people to get to lenexa,,but if you build it thru the wetland it must be a toll road with the money going to Haskell...since it was stolen by Solen Ayres.. .thats only fair..and the judge who made the decision..he owns all the other land outside of the wetlands ..and will make a nice profit when he sells his land along with some other lawrence people..for shame

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irvan moore 1 year, 9 months ago

i wonder how long before cromwell wants to build a parking garage for all the new business that compton and fritzel and schwada are going to be building alongside it.

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twobigones 1 year, 9 months ago

Folks, pull up your big boy and girl panties and move on........the 90% rest of us have!

Folks, pull up your big boy and girl panties and move on........the 90% rest of us have!

Folks, pull up your big boy and girl panties and move on........the 90% rest of us have! by twobigones

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Dave McClain 1 year, 9 months ago

DeckDoctors is correct about the history of the land. I know the people that used to farm it back in the 40's. They had plowed it from the prairie it had been since anyone had record of the site.

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jjt 1 year, 9 months ago

Is this the end of the legals or can it still go higher.?

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Centerville 1 year, 9 months ago

And the state funding for the SLT will help, too! Thanks to our elected officials: David, Francisco and Holland!

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The_Original_Bob 1 year, 9 months ago

"just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 minutes ago

But you've added just the right amount of nothing, TOB."

And that's the way I like it. There isn't anything to say. It is done.

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g_rock 1 year, 9 months ago

I can't wait to see the bridge to nowhere over Iowa actually GO somewhere! Or.....they have to rebuild it cause it has sat there with no maintenance...hm.

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theoriginalj3 1 year, 9 months ago

what they were trying to prevent the trafficway from doing, the drought would've done anyway.

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The_Original_Bob 1 year, 9 months ago

The comments have too much Bozo and not enough Merrill Cut and Paste.

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hitme 1 year, 9 months ago

Let's get that smelly, unsightly, mosquito infested, green-blue algae, man-made bog drained while we're at it.

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biggunz 1 year, 9 months ago

Can the tree huggers just give up already. It's going to be built. They're doing nothing but wasting people's time and money.

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kansasredlegs 1 year, 9 months ago

When is the deadline to file notice for SCOTUS review? You know the losers already have that bus warming up.

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consumer1 1 year, 9 months ago

Think of all the money the granola groups are forcing the city and state to spend in court wasting tax payer money during depressed economic times. Just to serve their own selfish wants. They don't care about anyone but themselves. Selfish, selfish, selfish.

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tweetysvoice 1 year, 9 months ago

Does anyone know which of the concepts was approved? The one for it going along 31st, 32nd, 35th, 38th, or 42nd?

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cato_the_elder 1 year, 9 months ago

APB to Did_I_Say_That: Please re-post your excellent series of aerial photos of the history of this property over the last six or so decades.

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Dave McClain 1 year, 9 months ago

I've got my shovel with me and will be helping cut the first path tonight! It is about time!

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Liberal 1 year, 9 months ago

Awesome, we now get more wetlands and a visitors center to really educate people to the value of wetlands and how important they are. The people who want less wetlands and uneducated people have lost!

Bravo for standing up for the wetlands and education, 10th circuit!!!

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observant 1 year, 9 months ago

Road should have been built 20 years ago. Would have cost taxpayers a lot less.

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DeckDoctors 1 year, 9 months ago

Yea! Now that is progress! Forward!!

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 1 year, 9 months ago

The American judicial system does its usual-- doing the bidding of the well-connected, not because it's in the interest of what's right and just, but because a legal rationale could be concocted to justify screwing the powerless-- once again.

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Kari Wempe 1 year, 9 months ago

Can we all now just move on? This project has taken more time and funds than it did to plan, build, pay for and use the Kansas Turnpike or what was called the "Fort to Fort Highway." Please, I reiterate, let's move on.

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BobtheBuilder 1 year, 9 months ago

This is great news for Lawrence. This is long past due and it is time to get this project moving. It should have been done a long time ago. Give the job to First Management or the Fritzel family and let them get tax breaks for doing the job.

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somebodynew 1 year, 9 months ago

They should have the bulldozers in there before the sun sets and get this show on the road.

But this should be an interesting blog to follow, better go stock up on popcorn.

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weiser 1 year, 9 months ago

I was wondering what would happen first...the Cubs winning the World Series, or this getting approved.

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