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After faltering start, will Obama alter agenda of ‘change’?

January 23, 2010

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Next week, President Obama will appear before Congress to deliver the annual State of the Union address.

Obama’s high-powered campaign, with record-breaking financial support, was a showcase of precision, a well-scripted message that hit the sensitive concerns of voters. He blamed the country’s domestic and foreign troubles on the Bush administration and made “change” the central theme of his program.

Time and time again, he called for “change,” and at one rally shortly before the election, he told his audience he and they were only five days away from being able to “fundamentally change” this country.

Whether due to his constant call for change, the massive funds he had to power his campaign, his ability to communicate and deliver his message, a poorly funded campaign by his opponent John McCain, the dislike of the George W. Bush years, the anger of Democrats who thought Bush had stolen the election from Al Gore, the complacency or malperformance of Republican officeholders or other reasons — or a combination of all the above — Obama moved into office with tremendously high expectations.

The nation’s major media had given him a green light almost from the beginning. He could say almost anything, make any charge, and not have it checked for accuracy. The general public seemed mesmerized by his well-scripted speeches mostly delivered with the help of almost invisible teleprompters. He called for redistribution of wealth and made promise after promise, and the public bought it all, hook, line and sinker.

He was sworn into office just about a year ago, on Jan. 21, 2009, in front of a record crowd stretching from the Capitol steps to the Washington Monument.

Although Republicans didn’t like to lose, it’s safe to say that on Inauguration Day, most Americans hoped Obama would be a good president. He had promised that he would work with all members of Congress in a bipartisan manner, that his administration would be known for its openness and transparency and that it would be a clean government, free of lobbyists and open to the ideas and thoughts of all.

He was going to have American troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan and restore Uncle Sam’s prestige throughout the world.

That was a year ago. It sounded good and the public bought into it.

But now, a year later, most of Obama’s promises and pledges have fallen flat. The only constant is that he remains determined to transform the country, transform it into a country of his liking, in many ways, trying to change a country that has enjoyed a proud and glorious history over the past 220 years, a country that is the envy of millions of those living in other parts of the world.

His stimulus bills have placed this country at a record level of debt, and his plan to hold unemployment to 8 percent has been shattered. There has been no “transparency” in his administration and his promise to let the public and Congress — and C-Span — know every detail of his health plan proved to be false. He appointed “czars” to run major businesses bypassing any hearings or confirmation process, and he pledged to have the Guantanamo Bay detention facility closed by this week. His health care plan, which consumed a significant amount of time this past year, has fallen apart. Lobbyists not only remain very active in their efforts, but he has several former lobbyists high in his administrative team.

The government has taken over private companies such as General Motors and Chrysler and has entered the banking and housing business, and there is no question that he wants the government to play an even greater role in the everyday lives of all Americans. He is determined to redistribute the wealth in the United States, and he intends to change tax laws, although many of the changes will make it even more difficult to lower the unemployment numbers.

There’s no question that he will deliver an eloquent State of the Union speech. He will display his usual positive, if not arrogant, manner when telling those in Congress his take on the state of the nation, but he, those in Congress and a good percentage of his television audience all know he is going to have to start all over in his efforts to fundamentally change this country.

His efforts to date have been intense, but those in Congress, even the large Democratic majorities in both houses, and the public have not bought into his dreams of “change.” They are opposed to the socialization of this country.

Next week, will the country see the same Obama as they have witnessed over his past year in office? Will he try to soften or disguise his intentions? Will he realize he must moderate or change his “changes”? Or will he be as positive and cock-sure as he was during his campaign and first year in the White House?

Has he learned any lesson this past year, or is he committed to trying to run this country in the same manner as the Chicago politics that perhaps shaped his early political training and beliefs?

As was the case a year ago, most Americans still want Obama to be a good president, as the country and its citizens will benefit. However, a year later they have far more reservations about the “changes” Obama may want as they now know just how extensive and damaging Obama’s “fundamental” changes would be for the country.

Comments

scott3460 4 years, 11 months ago

"The nation’s major media had given him a green light almost from the beginning. He could say almost anything, make any charge, and not have it checked for accuracy."

Aren't opinion pieces like this more persuasive when the author doesn't lie like this? Anyone with an ounce of political awareness recalls that at the time Obama was absolutely assailed for the controversy about his minister's comments, his supposed "celebrity" (all the nonsense about his speeches in Europe,) not being sufficiently patriotic because he didn't properly visit an Army base, etc. To say the media had given Obama a pass is simply not true.

scott3460 4 years, 11 months ago

"He will display his usual positive, if not arrogant, manner....Or will he be as positive and cock-sure ....."

Sad, but revealing. How wonderful for us that we have a newspaper owner who will share his hatred of the President in essentially the same editorial week after week, month after month. Nothing arrogant in that. (Or should I say, cock-sure? Or uppity maybe?)

4 years, 11 months ago

The Bush presidency floundered in incompetency its first year (OK, really, eight years). And then due to their lack of attention to obvious signs, 9/11. Always amazed at how Republicans crow about keeping the country safe since then... This editorial is more of the same of the smoke screen thrown up by the right.

I'd say Obama's wildly outperforming W, and cleaning that administrations catastrophic blunders in the process. It ain't over yet.

commuter 4 years, 11 months ago

Nuggent- that is your opinion. But Obama's campaign promised changed and so far nothing. He promised to work with Republicans, so far nothing.

Even though politicians will say anything to get elected, Too many Americans thought that Obama meant want he promised, so far nothing.

leedavid 4 years, 11 months ago

Everyone knows Obama's first year was a disaster. He spent billions and has little to show for it. He ran for office saying that jobs and the economy were the most important thing, yet he spent the year working on healthcare. While working on healthcare, millions of people lost their jobs and homes. All in all a horrible first year. But it is only his first year.

Bush and Clinton had horrible first years, yet turned it around and got reelected. The good news for Obama is he can turn it all around too. The answer is up to him.

newmedia 4 years, 11 months ago

Sadly, I don't believe he can change. He has always known only one way of doing things. He is too deeply rooted with leftist radicals and the Chicago political style. Might as well start printing the "One and Done" bumper stickers...

Liberty275 4 years, 11 months ago

"To say the media had given Obama a pass is simply not true. "

Did they ask if he was the father of his kids, like the same scumbags asked if Sarah Palin was really the mother of Trig?

Or were they too busy getting tingles up their legs when they listened to him lie?

jonas_opines 4 years, 11 months ago

From my perspective, Obama altered his agenda of change quite a while ago. Since he's been doing business as usual for quite some time.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 11 months ago

Obama's mistake was that he didn't seek what he really wanted right out of the gate, a single-payer national healthcare system, for example, but rather tried to make a deal for what was passable from day one.

If he had gone for a single-payer plan, it would have been compromised down from there. Instead, he compromised right out of the gate, thus giving Big Insurance, Big Pharma, the Republicans and Blue Dog Democrats the room to demagogue away any momentum he had gained from his election, and the mess of a healthcare reform bill is what we got. A bill that satisfied absolutely no one but Big Health and the politicians they own.

Obama's handling of the economic crisis was similar. He could have got a dramatic restructuring of an extremely corrupt financial sector, but instead he just mildly improved the propping up of the status quo begun by BushCo.

So really, the problem isn't that Obama's "agenda of change" has failed-- the problem is that he never really tried to implement one.

Flap Doodle 4 years, 11 months ago

One of Dear Leader's mistakes is that he started believing his own hype. Just showing up somewhere and reading from the teleprompter doesn't feed the bulldog. Just ask the IOC or the voters of MA.

scott3460 4 years, 11 months ago

"Did they ask if he was the father of his kids, like the same scumbags asked if Sarah Palin was really the mother of Trig?"

No, they questioned his patriotism, ego, support of the military troops, accused him of being a racist, a Muslim, a Socialist, a Nazi, of foisting health care reform that would kill the elderly, etc.

In any event, that Sarah Palin was subject to press scrutiny does not establish the proposition put forth in this editorial that Obama was given a free pass. Those with a level of intelligence above a potted plant understand that & would not make the argument you attempted.

Flap Doodle 4 years, 11 months ago

BTW, what happened to Joe "where's the scotch" Biden? Dear Leader's minions seem to have him locked in the cellar.

Flap Doodle 4 years, 11 months ago

Back to the actual topic, for {insert deity name}'s sake, American voters put Chauncey Gardiner in the White House in the 2008 election. Had the MSM done some actual reporting, would American voters have made such an error?

scott3460 4 years, 11 months ago

"BTW, what happened to Joe “where's the scotch” Biden? Dear Leader's minions seem to have him locked in the cellar."

Isn't he in Baghdad at the moment as the US Marines wrap up their mission there and withdraw from Iraq, you know, accomplishing one of the changes this editorial claims is not happening.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 11 months ago

"Had the MSM done some actual reporting, would American voters have made such an error?"

What specific reporting would have made John McCain the error-free choice, snap?

jafs 4 years, 11 months ago

During our "proud and glorious" history, we have had slavery, women denied the right to vote, hate crimes of various sorts, the support of brutal dictators around the world, the undermining of popularly elected governments, the ongoing destruction of the natural environment,...

There have also been some good things, of course, but why do so many have such trouble seeing our mistakes/flaws as a nation?

weeslicket 4 years, 11 months ago

another scree from yertle the turtle. SNOT. SNOT. SNOT.

obama inherited: a crashing economy, a budget wildly out of balance 2 wars, neither of which were paid for, massive job losses, health care, social security and medicare that have been festering wounds for decades, housing in the tank, wall street banks caught with their knickers down, and plenty of other crap left over from the previous administration, and all the usual crap that always lands in a president's lap.

and after only one year, yertle the turtle is unhappy that "change" has come neither quickly or easily. :: nattering nabobs of negativity

texburgh 4 years, 11 months ago

"His stimulus bills have placed this country at a record level of debt, and his plan to hold unemployment to 8 percent has been shattered. There has been no “transparency” in his administration and his promise to let the public and Congress — and C-Span — know every detail of his health plan proved to be false. He appointed “czars” to run major businesses bypassing any hearings or confirmation process, and he pledged to have the Guantanamo Bay detention facility closed by this week. His health care plan, which consumed a significant amount of time this past year, has fallen apart. Lobbyists not only remain very active in their efforts, but he has several former lobbyists high in his administrative team."

Why this paragraph about Bush in the middle of your attack on Obama?

Obama has achieved so little because 1) Republicans simply vote no and offer no alternatives, 2) a handful of DINOs (Democrats in Name Only - Lieberman, Nelson, Landrieu, etc) won't help the Democrats, 3) Harry Reid prefers appeasement of these DINOs instead of Republicanesque discipline, and 4) extreme conservatives backed by huge money (the Kochs in particular) are very effective at manipulating a frustrated public who vote repeatedly against their own economic self-interest.

It will get worse now as the remnants of the Bush supreme court have tossed out over 100 years of law regulating unlimited corporate spending in elections. It is now guaranteed that we will have the best government corporate money can buy. And it will start right here in Kansas when the Kochs drop hundreds of millions into Tiahrt, Brownback, Kelsey, Kobach, Huelskamp, Derek Schmidt, Jenkins, and the rest of the brownshirts vying for office.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 11 months ago

"There have also been some good things, of course, but why do so many have such trouble seeing our mistakes/flaws as a nation?"

Well, that would mean that we might actually have to do something about it, and let's face it, the average conservative as represented on this forum are a rather slothful lot.

leedavid 4 years, 11 months ago

Weeslickert, Obama knew of the situation when he asked for the job. He also told the public he was the right man for the job and he would fix it. Obama made very specific promises to the nation for the first year in office. Most of which were a failure. Hopefully things will change soon.

leedavid 4 years, 11 months ago

Bozo....todays conservative on this board is yesterdays democrat. We still owe you folks big. We do have to cram it into four years, because Obama is a one hit wonder.

jafs 4 years, 11 months ago

leedavid,

Actually, some of the major problems happened while Obama was campaigning. Should he have stopped in the middle because other problems came up?

davidsmom 4 years, 11 months ago

I think his heart was in the right place but I think his head knowledge was lacking. I think he really believed he could make an enormous change within a year, and reality has set in. I don't think any presidential candidate has ever truly understood the enormity of the job ahead of him until he get onto it, and once he was thrown to the wolves, it was a lot harder than he ever imagined. I also think sometimes candidates are too idealistic in thinking that the country's problem's can be solved quickly and easily. They don't realize how difficult it will be to work with a sharply-divided Congress and against strong resistance from people who oppose you in every way. This is a huge country and the problems often have deep and widespread roots. You cannot change the direction of an aircraft carrier as quickly and as easily as you can a rowboat.

weeslicket 4 years, 11 months ago

@leedavid: i said in closing: and after only one year, yertle the turtle is unhappy that “change” has come neither quickly or easily.

and, i don't agree with your opinion that "everything" has been a failure (to repeat :: nattering nabobs of negativity).

i do think that our elected leadership should get serious about solving some of these problems instead of constantly carping with each other. but then again, i don't think that will come quickly or easily either.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 11 months ago

"I don't think any presidential candidate has ever truly understood the enormity of the job ahead of him until he get onto it, and once he was thrown to the wolves,"

That depends on what your intentions are going in. Bush had no intentions of doing anything but greasing the skids for corporate profits, and he was wildly successful.

Of course, that created a couple of quagmire wars (no problem, good for corporate profits) and a collapsing economy (also no problem, because taxpayers will bail out lost corporate profits.)

And while he likely wouldn't have gained re-election (at least not pre the-latest-supreme-court-ruling) there are plenty of people on this board who'd gladly elect another idiot just like him-- say, Sarah Palin.

Liberty275 4 years, 11 months ago

"No, they questioned his patriotism, ego, support of the military troops, accused him of being a racist, a Muslim, a Socialist, a Nazi, of foisting health care reform that would kill the elderly, etc"

I still question his patriotism. He sat far too long on the advice he was given by his own general. He sat way too long merely for political reasons.

His ego is as big and stupid as steve jobs', he sat in a racist church apparently wearing earplugs, he is a socialist, I never heard him called a Nazi (although Nazis were also socialists), and he did try to shove socialistic medicine down the throats of The American people and cut medicare.

Given his name and upbringing, I can see why people would question whether he was Muslim.

Questioning all those things pales compared to accusing a woman of faking motherhood to cover for her daughter.

He was given a free pass by the press during the campaign, but when it came time to make decisions he couldn't hide the duped electorate has buyer's remorse.

Jmmy Cartter r2

leedavid 4 years, 11 months ago

Jafs, what are you saying?

Here's the deal, Obama said the economy, jobs, helping keep Americans in their home would be his higest priority.

His highest priorty was none of that this past year, it was health care. The way that unfolded was a embarassing debacle of record proportions.

We had millions lose their jobs, home foreclosures..just a horrible year.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 11 months ago

"The way that unfolded was a embarassing debacle of record proportions."

And the reason had absolutely nothing to do with "progressives," but with the bribed lawmakers doing the bidding of Big Insurance and Big Pharma, including almost all of the Republicans you want to now put back in charge.

"We had millions lose their jobs, home foreclosures..just a horrible year."

And what sort of policies should he have implemented instead of the mostly Republican-lite ones that we got?

mr_right_wing 4 years, 11 months ago

Just change a few words to that Who song....

"Meet the new president, same as the old president...."

There hasn't been one bit of 'positive' change. In fact, despite this liars promise, his administration is even less 'transparent' than Bushes! (Wow...way to go barry!! Georgie never promised any transparency but did better than you....)

...maybe I'm wrong, did C-Span have to approach the Bush admin. begging for access? No...don't think so... As transparent as mud.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 11 months ago

"There hasn't been one bit of 'positive' change."

Not true-- look at the damage the Roberts and Alito have recently done on the Supreme Court. Sotomayor is light years better.

There's plenty of other examples, but that's a back-handed compliment, at best, considering what a disaster his predecessor was.

scott3460 4 years, 11 months ago

"Questioning all those things pales compared to accusing a woman of faking motherhood to cover for her daughter."

No it doesn't, and neither does it establish the proposition put forth that he was given a pass. In fact, it simply reminds one of several proofs of the invalidity of the statement.

Centerville 4 years, 11 months ago

Let's see: 17% unemployment, $4 trillion in debt, a president resorting to mouth-breathing populism. Looks like everything is going according to plans.

Roadkill_Rob 4 years, 11 months ago

Can someone please explain to me what exactly Obama has to gain by "fundamentally" changing America? What is his motivation? When he's out of office, how will this fundamental change benefit him?

I mean, I love conspiracy theories as much as the next guy, but right wing conspiracies don't even make sense.

Roadkill_Rob 4 years, 11 months ago

And Barry Penders, I've been meaning to ask you this for awhile. Do you actually think you're funny every time you post "Darwin bless you"?

It seems to me that only Tom Shewmon laughs at you, which should tell you something about how funny it actually is.

I know you think you're being clever, but it's people like you that cause the rest of the country to make fun of Kansas.

Sunny Parker 4 years, 11 months ago

Why would anyone expect more from a community organizer. He hasn't even managed a kwik shop and you thought he could 'manage' the U.S.? Your president is a liar and the only thing he knows is to blame it on Bush....still after of year of his outrageous tax spending!

monkeyhawk 4 years, 11 months ago

barryp - you crack me up, too. Who cares what anyone thinks of Kansas, if they even bother to think about it at all?

Roadkill_Rob 4 years, 11 months ago

Yeah, who cares what people think about Kansas!!! And let's not stop there...let's take pride in being a laughingstock!!!! Yeah!!!!

Flap Doodle 4 years, 11 months ago

Don't forget, unemployment won't go over 8% if Porkulus is passed.

notajayhawk 4 years, 11 months ago

Roadkill_Rob (Anonymous) says…

"Yeah, who cares what people think about Kansas!!! And let's not stop there…let's take pride in being a laughingstock!!!! Yeah!!!!"

So instead of doing what's best for the people of this state, we should set policy according to what the people in some other states think about us. Just brilliant.

When you were younger (and possibly still), your mommy had to ask you pretty frequently 'If all your friends jumped off a bridge, would you have to do it too', didn't she?

Flap Doodle 4 years, 11 months ago

"...myopic, irresponsible and potentially dangerous. " What's the topic? The manner in which Dear Leader's pack of cronies received the Undie Bomber. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/22/AR2010012204349.html

Roadkill_Rob 4 years, 11 months ago

notajayhawk, First off, I'm glad that you're not a Jayhawk.

Secondly, I'm not sure what you're talking about, but I was talking about Barry's mocking of Darwinism. I wasn't talking about any kind of political policy.

Lastly, those of you that mock science and facts like notajayhawk, monkeyhawk, barry, and tom are cut from the same cloth as Pat Robertson. You act like you're so smart and clever, but, in actuality, you really have no clue.

jonas_opines 4 years, 11 months ago

"So instead of doing what's best for the people of this state, we should set policy according to what the people in some other states think about us. Just brilliant."

Dependant on whether anything being done that makes us the laughingstock of other states is actually good for this state. Kind of like how getting too drunk and putting the lampshade on your head at a party is or is not good for you as a person, despite whether everyone is laughing at you.

"When you were younger (and possibly still), your mommy had to ask you pretty frequently 'If all your friends jumped off a bridge, would you have to do it too', didn't she?"

If all of your friends are jumping off a bridge, there's probably a pretty damned good reason for it.

jonas_opines 4 years, 11 months ago

But by all means, continue to wow us with you knowledge of old wives' sayings.

What, for that matter, is your opinion on stepping on sidewalk cracks? Pro or con?

monkeyhawk 4 years, 11 months ago

snap - good link.

Could this have anything to with Holder's decisions?

"Did Holder's Law Firm Represent Christmas Bomber Mastermind? There is an additional and intriguing angle involving Yemen, creating a confluence between, that country, Ft. Hood and the Obama administration, in that U.S. AG Holder's former law firm, Covington & Burling, represented a number of Yemeni detainees who are/were being held in GITMO." http://jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com/2009/12/did-holders-law-firm-represent.html

"...those of you that mock science..."

barryp's reference really has nothing to with science, but with an inside joke, so he can explain that to you if wants to.

Roadkill_Rob 4 years, 11 months ago

Good call Beo.

What Dolph and other Obama haters don't understand or simply don't want to understand, is that Obama didn't want to have to pass a stimulus or bail anyone out. He did it to prevent a financial meltdown, which worked. None of those policies were meant to make us prosperous again no matter how much spin right wingers put on it.

Dolph also mentions that Obama broke a campaign promise by refusing to work w/ Republicans which is another lie...there's a good reason why the health care bill hasn't passed and it can be attributed to the party of "NO".

yourworstnightmare 4 years, 11 months ago

Mr. Simons,

You do not like Obama and therefore you are twisting the truth.

Obama was assailed by the media during the election and after. In the past year, his every move has been intensely scrutinized and criticized. As they should be.

Obama has been president for one year. One year. In this time he has stopped the economy from collapsing and has brought Wall Street out of a funk, he has redirected our war effort against jihad in Afghanistan, including increasing the effective drone missile strikes in Pakistan, and he has started a major dialogue about health care in this country.

Yes, he has not accomplished all that he has tried. Health care is stalled, we are still in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the economy has a ways to go, including unemployment.

He has been president one year. One year, after the shape our economy was in one year ago.

I know you do not like him, and there are certainly rational critiques of Obama. But please do not lie about his treatment by the media, his intentions and personality, and his accomplishments.

Richard Payton 4 years, 11 months ago

Perks for Dems and nothing for the right wing radicals is Barry's Chicago political machines goal. Now blame Bush and the Big Banks that are to big to fail for unemployment. How about some blame to the banking sub-committee man whom I believe may have been Barney Frank? The treasure secretary also robbed the taxpayer and then wants to raise taxes. Barry pretends to be for the little guy but I just no longer buy it!

Flap Doodle 4 years, 11 months ago

"...Obama didn't want to have to pass a stimulus or bail anyone out." There were favors to repay. It's looking now like SEIU is so unhappy with the pig in the poke at 1600Penn. Ave that they might stay on the sidelines for the midterm elections.

Roadkill_Rob 4 years, 11 months ago

"Perks for Dems and nothing for the right wing radicals is Barry's Chicago political machines goal."

Really? I mean, really? Even if this conspiracy theory is true, what does it gain him in the long run?

"There were favors to repay."

Even if this conspiracy theory were true, it still doesn't change the fact that Obama didn't want to bail anyone out or doesn't refute the fact that it stabilized the country from a financial meltdown.

You guys need some help w/ your conspiracy theories.

Roadkill_Rob 4 years, 11 months ago

"barryp's reference really has nothing to with science, but with an inside joke, so he can explain that to you if wants to."

Can't wait. I bet it's hilarious.

jonas_opines 4 years, 11 months ago

Depends on how hilarious you find spite.

Flap Doodle 4 years, 11 months ago

"...Barack Obama’s first major step on the campaign trail — in December 2006 — was to Wall Street, where he snagged the backing of convicted inside trader George Soros and investment banker Robert Wolf, who became CEO of UBS Americas. Before the Wall Street meltdown got into full swing, Swiss banking giant UBS had written off more debt from the subprime mortgage crisis than any other bank; a number of Obama’s top bundlers came from with firms mired in that mess. Such bundlers raised at least 22 percent of Obama’s money during the first half of 2007, and got perks from the Obama campaign. Indeed, Obama’s national campaign-finance chairwoman, Penny Pritzker, helped run Superior Bank — which was at the forefront of securitizing of subprime mortgages, until it collapsed in 2001.

When Wall Street went into meltdown mode, the establishment media ignored that Obama got big donations from associates of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and was one of the all-time recipents of political cash from Lehman Brothers. Before the election Obama voted for TARP. After the election, Obama twisted arms to get the second half of the TARP money, and packed the key economic positions in his White House with the very people who caused the crisis in the first place...."

Read the rest at http://hotair.com/archives/2010/01/23/obama-2010-pitchforks-and-arugula/

notajayhawk 4 years, 11 months ago

Roadkill_Rob (Anonymous) says…

"Secondly, I'm not sure what you're talking about, but I was talking about Barry's mocking of Darwinism. I wasn't talking about any kind of political policy."

Well, I started with a quote from you. It's not my fault you don't know what you're talking about.

And I wasn't responding to barry, I was replying to your attempt at sarcasm related to what other people think about Kansas, or whether we should care if any other state considers us a "laughingstock".

And, um, if the curriculum set by the elected state board of education isn't "policy", what exactly is?

"Lastly, those of you that mock science and facts like notajayhawk, monkeyhawk, barry, and tom are cut from the same cloth as Pat Robertson. You act like you're so smart and clever, but, in actuality, you really have no clue."

Speaking of "no clue", roadkill, I wasn't mocking science or facts.

I was mocking you.

"Dolph also mentions that Obama broke a campaign promise by refusing to work w/ Republicans which is another lie…there's a good reason why the health care bill hasn't passed and it can be attributed to the party of “NO”."

Just keep that head firmly buried in the sand, roadkill. Although I suspect where you actually have it buried smells much worse.

"Even if this conspiracy theory were true, it still doesn't change the fact that Obama didn't want to bail anyone out ..."

Really?

It was Bush that bought the car companies?

"... or doesn't refute the fact that it stabilized the country from a financial meltdown."

Oh, that's right - it was Obama's policies that accomplished that. (And the current drop in the stock market has nothing whatsoever to do with his announcements on what he plans for the banks.)

After all, he said so. Just look at all those jobs that would have been lost.

Have another big glass of kool-aid, roadie.


jonas_opines (Anonymous) says…

"Dependant on whether anything being done that makes us the laughingstock of other states is actually good for this state."

Perhaps that should be decided by the people of this state.

"If all of your friends are jumping off a bridge, there's probably a pretty damned good reason for it."

So you would just follow them, instead of wondering what that reason was, Mr. Lemming?

jonas_opines 4 years, 11 months ago

Generally the reason is obvious if you don't have your head in the sand, Mr. Ostrich.

Godot 4 years, 11 months ago

The only thing Barack Obama will change is the message; the agenda will remain the same.

Unfortunately for the prez, he cannot help but contradict himself, repeatedly. It is really hard to keep track of one's lies.

Nearly everything I predicted about Obama has proven true in just 12 short months. The one thing that hasn't happened is the reinstatement of the draft. He still has time.

Richard Heckler 4 years, 11 months ago

"And yet, five months later — and two years into the housing bust — the rising tide of foreclosures remains the single biggest threat to economic recovery. In 2005, at the height of the bubble, there were some 800,000 foreclosures.

This year, sadly, we are on pace to see 3.5 million foreclosures, with no end in sight. “On Main Street, the recovery will begin when foreclosures stop,” said Senator Jack Reed of Rhode Island, who has been pushing the Treasury Department to get mortgage relief more quickly to homeowners at risk of foreclosure.

“It’s not just California and Florida anymore,” said Mark Zandi of Moody’s Economy.com. “Foreclosures are taking place coast to coast. They’re high-end homes, low-end homes, prime mortgages, jumbo loans, you name it. Foreclosure mitigation needs to be front and center.”

As of March, according to Mr. Zandi, some 15 million homes were “under water,” meaning that their owners’ mortgage balance was higher — often considerably higher — than the value of the homes. Not all of those people will default on their mortgages. But many will.

Inexplicably, the Bush administration ignored the mounting foreclosure threat. The Obama administration came to office promising to do better; within a month it had announced the Making Home Affordable program, aimed at prodding the nation’s big mortgage servicers to start modifying loans in large numbers.

In addition, Congress passed a law immunizing the servicers from lawsuits that might arise for modifying mortgages. "

New York Times

Godot 4 years, 11 months ago

Watching FOX news right now, the history of Obama, in his own words. Unintentional self incrimination. Did Obama not expect people to remember (and record) what he said?

Godot 4 years, 11 months ago

Obama has proven himself to be a facile liar. Anyone who believes anything he says is a fool. The digital proof is in.

beatrice 4 years, 11 months ago

It really is like Bush crashed the car, leaving it a flaming wreck of crushed metal, and he tosses the keys to Obama on his way out. Then, people whine that Obama hasn't fixed the car yet. I know people on the right were calling Obama "the Messiah," but did you really expect miracles? Anyone who is honest with him or herself will recognize that the problems dumped in Obama's lap are larger than he can fix in one year. I'll be surprised if he can fix many of the economic problems he was handed by the end of his 8th year. (I wouldn't expect anyone on either side to be capable of righting all the wrongs currently facing our nation's economy.)

Godot, your biggest error is that you are watching Fox "News." Why not just listen to Rush Limbaugh for your information and get it over with. Do you really expect to watch Fox "News" to hear about the good things Obama has done? Really? It would be like reading one of Dolph's essays expecting to find praise for Obama, or condemnation of the Bush administration. It isn't going to happen.

Godot 4 years, 11 months ago

Obama has been recorded hundreds of times. He is a shape shifter, a flim flam man, a playa - he will say whatever he thinks will get him by at the moment. The digital memory tells all.

Roadkill_Rob 4 years, 11 months ago

notajayhawk says: "Well, I started with a quote from you. It's not my fault you don't know what you're talking about."

Yes, it is your fault that you don't know what I'm talking about. I'm not sure how to make it more clear, but I was talking about barrypender's reference to Darwin. The school board's curriculum is a whole other beast, but I was strictly referring to religious right wing nuts who mock evolution.

Got it? I'd hope so, b/c a chimp could probably understand.

Roadkill_Rob 4 years, 11 months ago

Roadkill Rob says: “Even if this conspiracy theory were true, it still doesn't change the fact that Obama didn't want to bail anyone out …”

notajayhawk says: "Really? It was Bush that bought the car companies?"

Um, what? Who was talking about Bush? Again, I'll try to be clear...Obama bailed out car companies to stabilize the car industry. He didn't want to do it. Why else would he do it? To repay favors?! What advantage does this give Obama in the big picture? What is his motive? To transform America into one big Chicago? Huh?

Please give any kind of answers, actually. However, I suspect you'll have some kind of clever retort like "keep your head in the sand" or "keep drinking that kool-aid" instead of giving me a rational explanation.

Actually, never mind. I just remembered that I'm debating someone who thinks that we shouldn't teach evolution in schools.

notajayhawk 4 years, 11 months ago

Roadkill_Rob (Anonymous) says…

"Yes, it is your fault that you don't know what I'm talking about."

Actually, I said you didn't know what you were talking about, but hey, I've stopped expecting you to read the posts before replying to them.

Okay, let's see if I can use small enough words for you to understand. I could care less if you were talking about Darwinism, or the broader subject of education in Kansas, or any other policy or practice or characteristic of this state. Your comment was that, for whatever reason, Kansas was held in low regard, that it is a laughingstock to the other states. Whether the topic is Darwinism, or the broader subject of education in Kansas, or any other policy or practice or characteristic of this state, who gives a flying fig what the people in Boston or San Fransisco or Portland or Butte or Walla Walla think? Is there some reason we need their approval - on ANY subject?

"The school board's curriculum is a whole other beast, but I was strictly referring to religious right wing nuts who mock evolution."

And we - and your simian friends - should have been able to tell that how, again? Oh, yeah, because you said so. Let's see, it was in here somewhere: "Yeah, who cares what people think about Kansas!!! And let's not stop there…let's take pride in being a laughingstock!!!! Yeah!!!!"

Hmmm. No mention of Darwinism. Come to think of it, no reference to barrypenders, either.

And that was the entirety of the post I replied to.

Yep, I can certainly see why anyone should have figured out immediately what you were referring to.

BTW, roadie, when you assume a chimp will understand your posts, there's a psychological explanation for that - it's called 'projection'.

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notajayhawk 4 years, 11 months ago

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"Um, what? Who was talking about Bush? Again, I'll try to be clear…Obama bailed out car companies to stabilize the car industry. He didn't want to do it. Why else would he do it? To repay favors?! What advantage does this give Obama in the big picture? What is his motive?"

Um, wow.

Okay, let's start with simple concepts. There were only two presidents who had their hands in the bailout, roadie. If Obama wasn't the one responsible, that would leave Bush.

Oh, but it was Obama - but he didn't want to do it. Yep, now that you mention it, I do seem to remember those pictures on the front page of every newspaper with someone holding a gun to the president's head.

What does he have to gain? How old are you, five? Even if you were the only person in the universe who was so completely ignorant of the United States' political process to not know the dependence of the Democratic party on labor (especially union labor), the recent rather well publicized dissatisfaction of the electorate with the Obama administration over unemployment should have given you some clue - if you were capable of having a clue.

Since you seem to need to have it spelled out for you, dipstick, his motive is the same as virtually every other politician - to keep his job, which he would have absolutely no possibility of doing with tens of thousands more unemployed union workers had the car companies gone under - or if the only other way to prevent that from happening was those same union autoworkers having to make concessions (instead of ending up with a fairly large ownership stake in the companies that employ them).

And, um, after reading your posts I realize you aren't too bright, but maybe you could point out where I said anything about not teaching evolution? YOU said that's what my responses were about, I didn't. I said the people of Kansas should decide what's best for them, without caring about whether the fine folks in other parts of the country are laughing or not - especially as we have plenty to laugh about at their expense.

notajayhawk 4 years, 11 months ago

beatrice (Anonymous) says…

"It really is like Bush crashed the car, leaving it a flaming wreck of crushed metal, and he tosses the keys to Obama on his way out. Then, people whine that Obama hasn't fixed the car yet."

Nice analogy.

You hired the mechanic. And you're saying it's okay the car's still in the shop a year later?

Maybe you shouldn't have believed the mechanic when he told you he'd be able to fix it.

Sunny Parker 4 years, 11 months ago

Beatrice....please list all those 'good things' that the community organizer has done.

Please .... enlighten everyone!

jafs 4 years, 11 months ago

nota,

With the complexity and scope of the problems, I wouldn't have expected anyone to be able to fix them all in 1 year.

I am, however disappointed in some of the things Obama has/hasn't done yet.

And, while he was campaigning, I tried to point out to various people that he was over-promising in a big way. But, for some reason, that's what people seem to want in a candidate for president.

One big problem is that the president, whoever they may be, has limited power in our form of government. Many campaign promises are simply impossible for a president to deliver on without complete cooperation from Congress.

commuter 4 years, 11 months ago

Beatrice unlike most people here (both Libs & Cons), I am trying to give Obama the benefit of the doubt but please let us know what has he done in the last year??

  1. had beer summitt

  2. Won Noble peace price for what??

  3. Spent a lot of time getting a dog

  4. Spent a lot time figuring out what strategy for Afghanistan

  5. Told everyone that we will be out of Afghanistan in 18 months - good to give the enemy a timetable

  6. Went on vacation at least 4 times

  7. Spent the majority of his remaining time blaming Bush

Flap Doodle 4 years, 11 months ago

"...Of course, I don't give a (reference to bio-solids) about Barack Obama anymore, other than my desire that really ugly things happen to him as payment in kind for the grandest act of betrayal we've seen since Benedict Arnold did his thing. But what about the country?..." Who is so upset with Dear Leader? David Michael Green at Commondreams, that's who. http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/22-7

equalaccessprivacy 4 years, 11 months ago

I enjoyed Arianna Huffington's assessment of Obama's performance on KPR Presents Sunday evening. She said he wants a "beer summit," that is he seeks reconciliation without doing the battles that mustcome beforehand. She indicated that Obama has a lot to learn, but it could be that maybe he'll learn fast. Overall, he's a bit too moderate for my taste though I struggle to understand the realistic role of political compromise.

Lee Eldridge 4 years, 11 months ago

I just wrote a blog post this weekend about how Scott Brown's win might actually help the president get re-elected:

http://www.leeeldridge.com/can-scott-brown-help-president-obama-get-re-elected/

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