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Palin makes her diplomatic debut

Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin meets Afghan President Hamid Karzai on Tuesday in New York.

Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin meets Afghan President Hamid Karzai on Tuesday in New York.

September 24, 2008

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— Sarah Palin met her first world leaders Tuesday.

It was a tightly controlled crash course on foreign policy for the Republican vice presidential candidate, the mayor-turned-governor who has been outside North America just once.

Palin sat down with Afghan President Hamid Karzai and Colombian President Alvaro Uribe. The conversations were private, the pictures public, meant to build her resume for voters concerned about her lack of experience in world affairs.

"I found her quite a capable woman," Karzai said later. "She asked the right questions on Afghanistan."

The self-described "hockey mom" also asked former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger for insights on Georgia, Russia, China and Iran, and she'll see more leaders today on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly meetings.

It was shuttle diplomacy, New York-style. At several points, Palin's motorcade got stuck in traffic and New Yorkers, unimpressed with the flashing lights, sirens and police officers in her group, simply walked between the vehicles to get across the street. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, three hours behind Palin in seeing Karzai, found herself overshadowed for a day as she made her own rounds.

John McCain's presidential campaign has shielded the first-term Alaska governor for weeks from spontaneous questions from voters and reporters, and went to striking lengths Tuesday to maintain that distance as Palin made her diplomatic debut.

The GOP campaign, applying more restrictive rules on access than even President Bush uses in the White House, banned reporters from the start of the meetings, so as not to risk a question being asked of Palin.

McCain aides relented after news organizations objected and CNN, which was supplying TV footage to a variety of networks, decided to pull its TV crew from Palin's meeting with Karzai.

Overheard: small talk.

Palin, 44, is studying foreign policy ahead of her one debate with Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden, a senator with deep credentials on that front. More broadly, the Republican ticket is trying to counter questions exploited by Democrats about her qualifications to serve as vice president and step into the presidency at a moment's notice if necessary.

There was no chance of putting such questions to rest with photo opportunities Tuesday. But Palin, who got a passport only last year, no longer has to own up to a blank slate when asked about heads of state she has met.

She also got her first intelligence briefing Tuesday, over two hours.

Today, McCain and Palin are expected to meet jointly with Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili and Ukrainian President Viktor Yuschenko. Palin is then to meet separately with Iraqi President Jalal Talabani, Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari and Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.

Comments

Kyle Reed 6 years, 2 months ago

Wow...the venom you people spew at each other. Unreal. You all carry on like she stole your husband/wife and shot your dog. I think your hatred for her is possibly only overshadowed by your hatred for each other. Oh...and early in the thread did I see "astronaught"? Seriously? Come on now...

woodenfleaeater 6 years, 2 months ago

I was there as well lee66049. Did you stay at the lake? And if so, did you wonder to the fairgrounds? I stayed at the lake the whole time and thought it was enjoyable, although I missed the feel of the grove.

lee66049 6 years, 2 months ago

Duplenty Did McCain ever say he knows where OBL is? Ever? Only one person is that stupid.....and guess what ticket he is on. Obama on the other hand says he would invade Pakistan to get OBL....you like wars, a big fan are you, I take it...Ready to go to war again? You like invading other countries? When did that change? Because you sure did not support the invasion of Iraq.

meggers 6 years, 2 months ago

Lee66049,The implication in the NY Post article you cited is way off base with regard to Obama's position on Iraq. He's logically trying to prevent having Bush dictate a withdrawal agreement that will tie the hands of the next president. If the Bush administration and Iraqis agree that they will have, say 1/3 of all combat troops out in five years, that clearly stands in stark contrast to Obama's goal of a more expedited withdrawal. Whether you agree with Obama's plans for Iraq or not, it isn't difficult to see why he wouldn't want Bush to impose a plan far different from his own that would stretch into the next administration. I'm guessing McCain's camp also doesn't want Bush signing any formal agreements that would extend into a possible McCain administration, as such a timeline might disagree with McCain's own plans for withdrawal, if he has any.

kugrad 6 years, 2 months ago

Sorry, I had a brain fart, It was Rep. Senator Chuck Hagle, not Lugar, who made the comments I referred to above. More coffee needed.

jhwk2008 6 years, 2 months ago

Mixolydian (Anonymous) says: "McCain and Palin have answered hundreds of questions from citizens like you and me in the town hall forums they've been conducting across the country."Not true. Palin only answers questions from Republican supporters. Check out the Fox News piece below:"Grand Rapids, MI - McCain town hall style meetings are generally open to the public where anyone may wait in line on the day of the event and come in without an advanced invitation."However, at tonight's 3,500 person townhall in Grand Rapids, Michiganthe first time Palin is taking questions from the public only ticketholders are allowed in.The McCain campaign confirms that tonight's event was advertised on the McCain/Palin Web site and local newspapers. People had to pick up their tickets at local GOP offices after RSVPing for the event."http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/09/17/mcpalin-town-hall-was-pre-ticketed/"Want to ask them a question? Go ask. Palin had 60,000 at a forum in Florida last week."Not true. She didn't allow questions from the audience. Do you people not know how to use the google?

ndmoderate 6 years, 2 months ago

Hey folks, check out the "Point-Counterpoint" over at the Onion...

supertrampofkansas 6 years, 2 months ago

Not only that but she can see Russia from her backyard too! That ought to count for something don't ya think?

sfjayhawk 6 years, 2 months ago

Could palin even find Afghanistan on a map? If she cant see a foreign country from her house she must not have any experience with it. As for what Biden said, he said he knows that Binladen is not in Baghdad, a true statement. Has palin ever even heard of Baghdad?

jhwk2008 6 years, 2 months ago

Here's a great tidbit from Politico.com:McCain's gambit"McCain suspends his campaign, and asks to postpone Friday's debate, to address the financial crisis.Both candidates have been marginal players; McCain, though, seems to have the potential to make himself a major one, and his move is a mark, most of all, that he doesn't like the way this campaign is going.But in terms of the timing of this move: The only thing that's changed in the last 48 hours is the public polling."http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/McCains_gambit.html?showall

ndmoderate 6 years, 2 months ago

Ah, yes. The truth has a liberal bias, it seems.Why won't Palin's handlers let her answer questions from reporters? What are they afraid of?

lee66049 6 years, 2 months ago

If the democrats had not nominated Obama as president...I could see complaints about Palin. Clinton (Draft dodger) and Carter (Naval Officer) were just governors without foreign policy experience as well.So the left has a long history of nominating presidential candidates with no foreign policy. Therefore complaints about a nominee for VP are simply bogus. Now Biden on the other hand, well his record of speaking gaffs, from hearings in congress to the political trail are legendary. One can only wonder if he were overseas and say some of the really stupid things he continues to say.

woodenfleaeater 6 years, 2 months ago

I thought Gov. Palin had experience in foreign policy. After all, living in Alaska, she is closer to Russia.

lee66049 6 years, 2 months ago

Palin is meeting foreign leaders and she did not have to go on a multimillion dollar tour. Seems like she is a better steward of money than Obama. And she did not embarrass us by saying Israel is a friend of Israel in Israel.Of course Palin, unlike Biden, never claimed to see President Roosevelt on TV, when TV wasn't invented and FDR was not the president."When the stock market crashed, Franklin D. Roosevelt got on the television and didn't just talk about the, you know, the princes of greed. He said, 'Look, here's what happened,"' Barack Obama's running mate recently told the "CBS Evening News."

lee66049 6 years, 2 months ago

To those who support Obama and Biden - do you really want a Vice President that says:WASHINGTON - Vice presidential candidate Joe Biden says today's leaders should take a lesson from the history books and follow fellow Democrat Franklin D. Roosevelt's response to a financial crisis."When the stock market crashed, Franklin D. Roosevelt got on the television and didn't just talk about the, you know, the princes of greed. He said,'Look, here's what happened,"' Barack Obama's running mate recently told the "CBS Evening News."Except, Republican Herbert Hoover was in office when the stock market crashed in October 1929. That Biden....economic genius, that guy

lee66049 6 years, 2 months ago

Logicsound....can't read all the posts, this has already been answered. I think I can see the problem now....its a reading thing.

Mixolydian 6 years, 2 months ago

McCain and Palin have answered hundreds of questions from citizens like you and me in the town hall forums they've been conducting across the country. Want to ask them a question? Go ask. Palin had 60,000 at a forum in Florida last week. She's hardly hiding and she sure enough isn't going around saying the sort of things that Biden is saying.As to her foriegn travel, big deal. I've been to over 30 countries, and lived in GB for a year. That doesn't make me an expert on foreign affairs. I learned one thing in all that time and travel.....if a country doesn't have it's own beer, it's not much of a country.

ndmoderate 6 years, 2 months ago

Nice dodge, R_T. Still keeping it classy, I see!

stephenj 6 years, 2 months ago

To those who wonder why it's important to examine Palin as if she is the Prez and not the VP, it's because McCain is old old old. To me, when I saw him yesterday speaking about the economy his eyes looked all glassy and wobbly; he looked like he should be in a retirement home, where making racist and insensitive jokes is overlooked with a smile.Just think about how quickly past presidents have aged once they get in office! Voting for McCain is like a death sentence. Save McCain! Vote Obama!

lee66049 6 years, 2 months ago

Stjayhawk: Speaking of jokeYour going to love this. Biden just said in a speech that he was downed in a helicopter...this is the third time. He was never downed in a helicopter, they landed because it was snowing. He also just said he and Obama know where OBL is. With all of this knowledge of his...shouldn't he call the Pentagon and tell them?Now there is a joke for you. Here is a better one: What did Moses say when he got tot the top of Mount Sinai?What a great name for a hospital. (Music festival in Winfield last weekend)

beatrice 6 years, 2 months ago

Oops. You gotta hate it when the beauty queen gets out dressed by the President of Afghanistan. To those who support McCain and Palin -- do you really want another Vice President who will not answer questions? Palin -- the Vice Presidential candidate to Nowhere.

S0uPnAzi 6 years, 2 months ago

But Gore still invented the internet w

BuffyloGal 6 years, 2 months ago

Why the fuss about Oprah Tom? Should her book club recommend books they didn't enjoy too? Should the cooking segments be able food that tastes like garbage? It is her show and she can do whatever the heck she wants. Does Palin have some new movie coming out soon that we're not aware of?Do you work for Fox because you really think they are wonderful.

jhwk2008 6 years, 2 months ago

Correction, Obama's up 3.7 in the latest RealClearPolitics.com poll of polls. It's all because of Fox News.

woodenfleaeater 6 years, 2 months ago

If McCain suspends his campaign, that means more Palin. NNNNNOOOOOOO.........

jhwk2008 6 years, 2 months ago

Tom Shewmon says:"Many comments touch on the whole tone of this lame pc. on Palin:..that she has been hidden and protected. This is hardly the truth, just more dishonest liberal media fabrications."Is Fox News now a liberal network?http://www.wikio.com/video/458514"There's not once chance that Governor Palin would have to answer a question. ... They're eliminating even the chance of any kind of interaction with the candidate -- it's just unprecedented."FOX News Producer Shushannah Walshe

BuffyloGal 6 years, 2 months ago

McCain's Economic Plan For Nation: 'Everyone Marry A Beer Heiress' - gotta love The Onion

lee66049 6 years, 2 months ago

Biden recalls seeing FDR on TV speaking about the economy 3 years before FDR took office and the TV wasn't invented yet. LOL!Only he, Obama and OBL know where OBL is....and they are not telling. LOL!

tolawdjk 6 years, 2 months ago

@lee66049"Besides who is running for president? Palin or Obama?"That is what I want to know, because the GOP since the convention has certainly given their VP candidate more face time than their Predidential candidate.You don't hear about where McCain will be on any given day, you hear about where Palin will be. The GOP could have gone a long way in diffusing Palin's visit to the UN and controlling the press by having McCain step forward and weighing in definiatively on the current economic situation, but instead, we get this.Is it a McCain/Palin or Palin/McCain ticket?

lee66049 6 years, 2 months ago

Duplenty:Here you go your request is my pleasure:According to an article by Amir Taheri of the New York Post, Barack Obama attempted to interfere with the U.S/Iraq status of forces agreement, and extend the troops stay in Iraq by one year.Quoting, on the record, Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Taheri says Obama tried to convince Zebari to end negotiations with the U.S., and ask the U.N. to keep the troops in Iraq for one more year-past the current mandate, until a new U.S. President and Administration is in office. WHILE campaigning in public for a speedy withdrawal of US troops from Iraq, Sen. Barack Obama has tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence. According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July. "He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington," Zebari said in an interview.

lee66049 6 years, 2 months ago

TolawdjkWho is responsible for covering the candidates? Is it the party or the press? If you go to McCain/Palin website, which I never have, I bet its more about McCain.....I can not help why the media, including LJ World chooses to cover Palin as much as they do.

jhwk2008 6 years, 2 months ago

Circling the drain, Tom. Circling the drain.

woodenfleaeater 6 years, 2 months ago

McCain is suspending his campaign to focus on the economy, and also asking that the debate be postponed......Sounds like someone isn't prepared and is trying to find a way around it.Look @ cnn.com

dandelion 6 years, 2 months ago

Palin having tea with a foreign leaders does not give her experience. She couldn't travel outside the country, because she didn't have a passport, because why would she want to hang out with ferahners.Tom, why is she too chicken to be really interviewed by the press? She comes off as being cowardly. You seem to have all the answers. Why is she afraid?

lee66049 6 years, 2 months ago

Duplenty is was sarcasm... I guess I should have stated the obvious. Obama....your man for president...has zero foreign policy experience, none, zippo, nadda. Pee Wee went on a Big Adventure...that is it.So if someone can see a foreign country that trumps Obama.Besides who is running for president? Palin or Obama?

BuffyloGal 6 years, 2 months ago

Just heard on NPR that McCain wants to postpone the debate Friday night so he can focus on the economy. In some countries this would be seen as stalling or covering up a medical condition. I'm just saying.

kugrad 6 years, 2 months ago

Mixolidian, No one stays at a meeting long enough to answer 60,000 questions. That is ludicrous. My sister and brother in law tried to attend a Palin event. They were not registered Republicans (they are indendent and in a swing state) and could not get in. It is interesting that Democrats just let everyone who shows up in, but Republicans screen people for events. There are documented cases of people not being allowed to enter speeches by McCain because of the bumper stickers on their cars. This practice dates back to the Reagan years and I am very uncomfortable with it.

MyName 6 years, 2 months ago

beobachter:>Tom, sounded fair to me, but then I don't get all my ideas and thoughts dictated by Fox news and far right commentators.Now, I'm sure you can't give FoxNews all the credit. I'll bet one or two of the voices in Tom's head chipped in to help!

lee66049 6 years, 2 months ago

Has Palin ever heard of Baghdad? Who hasn't. McCain does and he is the one running for president. And McCain knows we only have 50 states. Obama?

lee66049 6 years, 2 months ago

Palin has more foreign policy sitting in Alaska with Canada on one side and Russia just across the water, than Obama has. Everyone knows that. What is the hard part?Speaking of foreign policy experience, who will ever forget Obama asking Iraq to keep our troops there until he took office? You want to brag about Obama's foreign policy experience when Pee Wee committed treason on his Big Adventure....go ahead.

sfjayhawk 6 years, 2 months ago

She only got a passport last year!? How ridiculous to thing that this candidate has any measure of foreign experience - at least she can see Russia from her house! What a joke

jhwk2008 6 years, 2 months ago

lee66049 (Anonymous) says:"I'm sure you will hear more [from Palin] than you wanted to."Exactly my point. Americans will hear more than they want to. People love her because they know nothing about her. Obama's up 3.2 in the RCP poll. And he's up 9, 52-43, in the latest ABC News / Wash Post poll. McCain/Palin are circling the drain. Desperation is in the air. Can you smell it?

kugrad 6 years, 2 months ago

When Richard Lugar, Republican Senator - certainly not a liberal - says that it is " a stretch" to say Palin is qualified to be a VP, and says the "You can see Russia from Alaska" defense is "offensive" because it "insults the intelligence of Americans," do you still claim liberal bias when the media reports that? Do you claim media bias when Fox news spends hours and hours a day bashing Democrats? McCain failed to vet Palin. This is an established fact that was verified by McCain's own top advisors who indicated they had 9 (or 12 depending on which source you see) to vet her. This is typically a month long process at the shortest. Since McCain failed to vet her, is it biased for the press to do their jobs and try to vet her now?

lee66049 6 years, 2 months ago

Of course Obama is world class in foreign affairs:Who can forget this measure of his genius. "Iran, Cuba, Venezuela -- these countries are tiny compared to the Soviet Union. They don't pose a serious threat to us the way the Soviet Union posed a threat to us. And yet we were willing to talk to the Soviet Union at the time when they were saying we're going to wipe you off the planet. And ultimately that direct engagement led to a series of measures that helped prevent nuclear war, and over time allowed the kind of opening that brought down the Berlin Wall. Now, that has to be the kind of approach that we take. You know, Iran, they spend one-one hundredth of what we spend on the military. If Iran ever tried to pose a serious threat to us, they wouldn't stand a chance. And we should use that position of strength that we have to be bold enough to go ahead and listen."

jaywalker 6 years, 2 months ago

"Why won't Palin's handlers let her answer questions from reporters? What are they afraid of?"I'd imagine they're afraid of the same gaffes that long time politico and veteran of the Hill, Joe Biden, has been ripping off lately. He's made a number of blunders, and he's contradicted BO or vice versa as well. I reckon the McCain camp wants to avoid such mistakes so as not to give their opponents fuel for the fire, at least until they get her up to speed on all relevant campaign planks and talking points.

jaywalker 6 years, 2 months ago

Tom is right about the way this piece was written. If it is not apparent to the reader I don't know what to say. It is not inflammatory, but the 'journalist's lean is evident. Subtle turn of phrase, a word here or there......, come on, it's pretty obvious.

BuffyloGal 6 years, 2 months ago

Is Palin even aware that most of the men she met today think that she was dressing like a whore? Great first impression. Even Condie has the "sense" to wear those silly big boots to cover herself a bit.

woodenfleaeater 6 years, 2 months ago

Yeah, I know how to use "the google". W taught me.

lee66049 6 years, 2 months ago

jhwk2008 wants to hear from Sarah Palin more....isn't that cute. Well she will be on a debate soon....maybe you should watch it. I'm sure you will hear more than you wanted to.

jaywalker 6 years, 2 months ago

dupedaplenty: "Tell me, Tom - which one of your posts is "important"?I don't believe he ever said one was, duped, he merely requested you actually say something, anything, that demonstrates a modicum of intelligence, insight, constructive discourse..............waste of breath, I know. Doesn't hurt to ask though.

BuffyloGal 6 years, 2 months ago

Largest Budget Allocation:The Wasilla Pipeline To God Advice For Women Beginning In Politics:"If you work hard and keep your nose clean, you too can have a rich, powerful man come and whisk you off to Washington."Beauty Contest Victories:1984 Miss Wasilla, 1984 Miss Alaska, 2008 Republican Vice-Presidential NominationUnwed Pregnant Teens Receiving Funding From Palin Administration:1General Political Philosophy:Chestnut brown with amber highlights

ndmoderate 6 years, 2 months ago

The truth has a liberal bias!!!Damn that liberal truth for being so...so...truthy!Far-left kook truth! Hate it! Hate it! Hate it!

jaywalker 6 years, 2 months ago

the mayor-turned-governor who has been outside North America just once. The conversations were private, the pictures public, meant to build her resume for voters concerned The self-described "hockey mom"It was shuttle diplomacy, New York-style.John McCain's presidential campaign has shielded the first-term Alaska governor for weeks and went to striking lengths Tuesday to maintain that distance as Palin made her diplomatic debut.The GOP campaign, applying more restrictive rules on access than even President Bush uses in the White House, banned reporters McCain aides relented after news organizations objected Overheard: small talk.Palin, 44, is studying foreign policy ahead of her one debate with Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden, a senator with deep credentials on that front. More broadly, the Republican ticket is trying to counter questions exploited by Democrats about her qualifications to serve as vice president and step into the presidency at a moment's notice if necessary.There was no chance of putting such questions to rest with photo opportunities Tuesday. But Palin, who got a passport only last year, no longer has to own up to a blank slate There ya go guys. This is another piece from the AP, a supposed 'just the facts' news consortium. It's all in the way someone writes, the tone, the use of the words, stressing what to them is the story instead of reporting the story. Now, some will argue that much of what this reporter wrote is true or factual, and it is. But the use of 'hockey mom', for example, is unnecessary. And I'd feel the same way if the article was written about BO and it read, "The community organizer turned presidential candidate.........."It's the reporter taking shots at Palin as a regular shmoe, lack of experience, lack of access...... if you read some of those lines she makes the press the story. Why, if they had not put their foot down and threatened to walk away then......Tom is absolutely correct on this, and this is not new. -hockey mom-voters concerned-shielded, striking-relented, exploited, blank slate-step into the presidency at a moments noticeAlmost the entire article swings against Palin and McCain, but the one reference to Biden is he has 'deep credentials'. It's like Cal Thomas wrote this from the left, but with more subtlety than his usual open heavy handedness.

jaywalker 6 years, 2 months ago

Figures. As I wrote when I posted the examples, several would cite that they were 'facts', and I agreed. Duped, logic, defender - show me where 'bias' can not include 'truth'. If someone writes a piece on Obama's visit to a homeless shelter, and in the body you read about Rezko, Wright, 57 states, New Pennslyvania, Ayres, 143 working days on the Hill, freshman senator....etc. - and the tone is like the one above - would you not find the reporter to be writing a piece with a personal slant? Are such things necessary? Duped and defender, I'm not surprised that such subtleties are lost on them. But logicsound, you've always proven yourself to be highly intelligent and relatively fair. You honestly can't see a skew in the above piece?And duped, KMA, some of us have jobs and lives, and are not doomed to the bowels of mommy's basement, no offense.

sfjayhawk 6 years, 2 months ago

From the NY Times:Sarah speed-dated diplomacy on Tuesday. She had her very first national security briefing from the director of national intelligence and then went to a meeting with the Afghan president, Hamid Karzai. He thanked her for the help of the Alaskan National Guard in Afghanistan and told her about his young son, Mirwais, which means "the Light of the House." Then she met with President Ãlvaro Uribe of Colombia.Finally, Sarah huddled with Henry in his Park Avenue office, next to pictures of Ford and Reagan. The two made an odd couple: the last impure Rockefeller Republican and the first pure Rovian Republican, grown totally in the petri dish of cultural crusaderism. Summoning his old Harvard teaching days, Kissinger surely looked for a common didactic starting point: She has seen Russia. "Goot. I haff seen it, too."

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