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City weighs futures of Last Call, downtown

February 12, 2008

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City leaders discuss Last Call

City leaders are developing new strategies for dealing with Last Call in the wake of Sunday morning's triple shooting. Enlarge video

Lawrence bar owners, get ready. City leaders are serious about entertainment licenses.

The fallout from the shooting of three people early Sunday morning outside Last Call, 729 N.H., continued Monday as local leaders offered ways to deal with what they say is a bar that is a public nuisance.

Lawrence Mayor Sue Hack, after an unrelated meeting with county and school district leaders Monday morning, didn't hold back when talking about bringing Last Call under control.

"I think what's at stake is the survival of downtown," Hack said. "Who would want to come at any time to some place they felt they were going to be harmed?"

In addition to saying the city expected the help of entertainment and hospitality businesses in implementing licensing, Hack also broached the idea of special-use permits. First considered last year, special-use permits would require the City Commission to vote every three to five years whether a drinking establishment should be allowed to operate. A similar plan regulates other businesses, including homeless shelters.

"(Owners) are going to have to support us in this because the violence we're having downtown will hurt all of us," Hack said. "Downtown is a very precious part of this community."

City commissioners are expected to talk about the issue within the next two weeks.

District Attorney Charles Branson, however, isn't waiting for the city. Branson said he's asked police for any information they have about incidents at Last Call. Branson is reviewing reports, looking for violations of the public nuisance law or perhaps for having a 15-year-old inside of the club.

Lawrence Police Sgt. Paul Fellers said the investigation was ongoing into the 3 a.m. Sunday shootings, and police still want to talk with anyone who might have information. The three victims - two Last Call employees and a 15-year-old Topeka boy who had been a Last Call customer - remained in area hospitals, recovering from gunshot wounds.

Neither Last Call owner Dennis Steffes nor his attorney, Daniel Owen, returned messages seeking comments Monday.

Comments

Melanie Birge 6 years, 10 months ago

Shame on you Dennis for taking Downtown aways from all of us who enjoy going Downtown. Why don't you go to the Hood in KC and put Last Call there? Don't take Lawrence away from the people who live, work, and play here!

akt2 6 years, 10 months ago

Just for fun maybe a K-9 unit could be utilized in and around the immediate area.

KLATTU 6 years, 10 months ago

Classic. A guy is running a crack house/gangbanger headquarters with repeated incidents of firearms problems, and the politicians' response is come up with new laws for all downtown bars.

The solution: when a mobster opens a crack house/gang club house have the cops ride his ass until he leaves town. That's what they do in other towns, and why the gangbangers have to come here. It ain't just the college poontang that's attracting them. It's that their behavior is tolerated in Lawrence.

taxman66044 6 years, 10 months ago

Informed...maybe before you cast stones and look like a complete idiot, take a look at the ordinance..Last Call is neither a drinking establishment or private club. It is simply operating as a dance club open to the general public...

I am going to make three hypothesis..

1) Dennis Steffes' will not reopen Last Call but will change the venue at Coyotes to include hip-hop at least one night a week...

2) The LPD will make an arrest in the latest shooting before the end of the week...

3) Club Axis will take the place of Last Call as the new "hot spot" for trouble makers...

Look at the police reports online...The police have already recovered weapons out of cars at Club Axis but the Journal World has failed to report on this.

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 6 years, 10 months ago

Take the race card of the table. People who imply that the need to get rid of this bar is the music or race are trying to change the subject. IT'S THE VIOLENCE STUPID! No one cares if they come here to have fun. We don't care what their race, religion, sex or taste in music is. But the violence is not welcome. If that's your idea of fun, go to Iraq or the Sudan or another war zone. And if you are serious about keeping this bar open, then you better get some of the patrons to give up the jerk who shot these people. Someone knows who it was, or at least suspects it. If you want to prove to me what fine outstanding citizens the patrons are, then this guy needs to be in jail.

flyin_squirrel 6 years, 10 months ago

More regulations is not the answer. Make these thugs feel unwanted in town!

If Hack would have made an entertainment license 6 months ago, Last Call would still be open, selling liquor and if they revoked the entertainment license, he would be fighting it in court for 3 to 4 years while open.

Use the laws you have, and you will get the same results.

tolawdjk 6 years, 10 months ago

Yeah yeah, its on the books.

Has anyone ever seen a succesful prosecution of a "nuisance" law anywhere at anytime?

Define "habitually"? "General Public"?

Steffes would argue that this is a "one-time" event, an isolated incedent where members of his staff were attempting to remove a troublesome patron from his property and a totally unrealted and uncontrolable incedent ocurred off of his property, affecting the safety of the general public.

He would argue that the parking lot is the problem. That is where the guns are, not his club. And as a parking lot isn't a drinking establishment or private club, it can't be a habitual public nuisance.

Want to solve things? Make that lot a "pay" lot from 8 pm till midnight. Put up a 10 foot fence around it with a gate. Getting in is free, you pay upon leaving the lot. Make the fee something outrageous like $250 per 30 min. Put an armed guard in a both to take payments. Allow Borders and other businesses in the area to be able to validate parking. Require that a business in possession of a city validation machine that allows alcohol on its premesis must be in possession of a valid liquior license or it faces a $2500 per day fine. Officers would be allowed to enter a premesis to confirm compliance.

I'm doubtful that bangers are going to walk a couple blocks to go to the club.

jafs 6 years, 10 months ago

I have heard that in order to operate legally as a byob establishment, it must send invitations to patrons.

That would seem to indicate it is more of a private club.

But the city should have shut them down under the nuisance law before/instead of taking away their liquor license.

n8ivjhawk 6 years, 10 months ago

QUICK!! Somebody call Patrick Swayze/Jack Dalton!

"Dalton: People who really want to have a good time won't come to a slaughterhouse. And we've got entirely too many troublemakers here. Too many 40-year-old adolescents, felons, power drinkers and trustees of modern chemistry."

CheyenneWay 6 years, 10 months ago

My one and only question. Why dont the police just hang out from 12-4am on Friday and Saturday night? If you know there is a problem area just go serve and protect. Buy a cheap camera and set it up outside. There are tons of video cameras in this town and if you put them in strategic spots around that block someone will catch any law breakers up to no good. Put up temporary signs stating that video equipment is monitoring the area. Then shove all the hippety hoppers into the building and let them crunk the night away. I used to go there but it got too crunk and I had to leave.

kneejerkreaction 6 years, 10 months ago

Informed (Anonymous) says:

The city needs to enforce laws already on the books, not create new ones. Is it treally that hard for our Mayor to understand?

4-116 habitual public nuisance prohibited. (A) A drinking establishment or private club is a habitual public nuisance when it operates in a manner that habitually harms the public health, safety or welfare of the general public, neighboring properties or occupants of neighboring properties, or patrons. Habitual public nuisances are hereby prohibited.


This post was made yesterday, yet it doesn't seem to get any attention. If Douglas County & Lawrence legal beagles can't make use of this, then perhaps we need some new dogs.

It is very specific and will apply to Last Call, Axis or whatever club begins to be a problem because of continual violence.

And, we're not talking about fratboy fistfights. These people are armed. I would bet that most of them cannot even own a firearm because of previous legal trouble.

Lindsey Buscher 6 years, 10 months ago

"Downtown is a very precious part of this community," says Hack as she simultaneously attempts to kill and save downtown.

BigPrune 6 years, 10 months ago

They need to turn it into a non-alcoholic strip joint. Though I would protest, the women could wear pasties. Doesn't the City allow nudity at the Bottleneck? I think they do, almost 100% sure.

Baille 6 years, 10 months ago

Every year the Chamber trots out legislation that favors the big corporations and shafts everyday citizens. Now it looks to do the same thing the individuals and small business owners in Lawrence.

Hack is wrong and the dumb---, neophyte sheep that are following her should be ashamed.

kneejerkreaction 6 years, 10 months ago

I agree with the comments about Hack being wrong. From the article today, she didn't really sound in charge of the situation.

New entertainment legislation where City Commissioners get together every 3 to 5 years and vote on the livlihood of small business owners is just scary.

Most legislators don't have a clue as to what owning or running a small business means. Look at Naughty but Nice. I mean, what on earth did they do to anyone?

NBN was not even a miniscule problem compared to Last Call, yet the city had some kind of personal crusade which included UNgrandfathering laws that were in place when NBN went into business.

This kind of "judgment" in the hands of city commissioners is scary.

kneejerkreaction 6 years, 10 months ago

Informed (Anonymous) says:

4-116 habitual public nuisance prohibited. (A) A drinking establishment or private club is a habitual public nuisance when it operates in a manner that habitually harms the public health, safety or welfare of the general public, neighboring properties or occupants of neighboring properties, or patrons. Habitual public nuisances are hereby prohibited.


This bears repeating....geeezzzz...can it be more clear?

Fatty_McButterpants 6 years, 10 months ago

I would think that having a restriction only on drinking establishments, subject to the whim of the city council, would be some sort of illegal restriction on commerce. Wouldn't the review have to encompass every business in Lawrence, not just drinking?

ilovelucy 6 years, 10 months ago

If you listen to the City manager and City staff, which the commission does weekly, then of course they think they need entertainment liscensing! Ever since Corliss began, his goal is to control the entertainment district, as well as everything else in this town. Bad choice to liscense! But then, I guess the Bottleneck, et al. would be better off in KC and our tax revenues will once again tank. Think Commission! Don't always listen to Corliss!

ForThePeople 6 years, 10 months ago

Good Gawd...for crying out loud, stop hemhawing and make it so that last Sat. was last call for Last Call! The ordinances are all ready in place, CC get some freaking balls already and do what needs to be done!!!

kneejerkreaction 6 years, 10 months ago

CCommissioners....pls have your legal department read this to you s...l...o....w...l...y..... What aren't you understanding? If you take this point by point, Last Call has broken all the rules in this statute. It's just not that complicated.


4-116 habitual public nuisance prohibited. (A) A drinking establishment or private club is a habitual public nuisance when it operates in a manner that habitually harms the public health, safety or welfare of the general public, neighboring properties or occupants of neighboring properties, or patrons. Habitual public nuisances are hereby prohibited.

gccs14r 6 years, 10 months ago

Steffes won't get a renewal on his license at Coyote's, either. One requirement for obtaining or renewing a liquor license is never having had a license revoked for cause.

BalkansHawk 6 years, 10 months ago

I agree with every commment on here that questions creating new legislation/ordinances when the city already has one in place to deal with this particular pattern of events. The City Commission and Mayor need to enforce the existing laws and not waste time by trying to reinvent the wheel. It is very disturbing to me that these people are making decisions that impact the future of Lawrence.

flyin_squirrel 6 years, 10 months ago

ilovelucy,

I agree, Corliss is so narrow sighted about this entertainment license. He could have told the police dept. to target this place and make these people feel uncomfortable. Instead he sat around crying about how is entertainment license was denied. He needs to become a leader and look at all options rather than always thinking like a lawyer and trying to make new laws.

flyin_squirrel 6 years, 10 months ago

And yes, he did go to ABC to have LC's liquor renewal denied, but only after the paper reported that Corliss had never talked to ABC and only sent a "lip-service" letter asking if ABC could do anything about issues outside the club. He knew the answer and that is why he worded the letter the way he did.

flyin_squirrel 6 years, 10 months ago

Corliss wants an entertainment license and will ignore every other option to get it.

Scattered 6 years, 10 months ago

It really is a shame what has happened here. It is a shame that one person cares more about making money than human life (and that is what I must conclude when the owner refuses to close the place down); it is a shame that young people choose the violent lifestyle; and it is a shame that there seems to be no end to it all.

I live two hours away in a slightly smaller town. There was a convenience store that experienced some thug activity a few years ago. The solution? The owner of the store employs TWO or THREE uniformed policemen/women every Friday and Saturday night. During the summer, they are also there on Wednesdays and some Thursdays.

You might still get high sniffing the clientele, but you won't get stabbed or shot!

kneejerkreaction 6 years, 10 months ago

BC, great idea. CCs could just begin to call the place "Last Cartridge", designate it a shooting range since (aside from the community shooting range) there is more target practice going on there than any other location in the city.

Then, call Steffes up on some lame charge....failure to provide lead abatement at his range, lack of enough hay bales to stop bullets from exiting the establishment during shooting practice....something....

And shut him down.

adriennerm 6 years, 10 months ago

Dennis Steffes, one question.....how do you sleep at night? I understand you want to keep your club open and so far you have a legal right to. However where's your conscience? Why do you want to own a place that creates such problems? Close the club, you know as well as everyone who has posted in this thread knows, your club is nothing but trouble.

I understand you can't control the customer's that come there. However you've been on notice that your club attracts a certain type of crowd. If you know this, just close the place down.... I would not want to be the owner of a place like this.....I couldn't be the owner of a place like this

toefungus 6 years, 10 months ago

Could the new license be more of a revenue source than a solution to the problem? I agree Last Call is a major problem and civil and criminal charges should be filed. If I were a business nearby I would sue for economic loss. But, more government overhead and fees (by the way a fee is a tax) is never a good thing. When you ask the government for a solution, you always get more government. Always.

justthefacts 6 years, 10 months ago

To answer the question about whether public nuisance laws have been used to shut down trouble spots. Yes. In Wichita. All the time. Have anyone interested contact the city attorney's office. They can give examples and/or provide copies of pleadings etc.

nobody1793 6 years, 10 months ago

"Dennis Steffes, one question:..how do you sleep at night?"

Probably on a big pile of money.

NEWMAN 6 years, 10 months ago

We don't need a bar with a bullet -proof vest coat check. I say we just rent a bulldozer and level that bar. There's residences across the street that don't need stray bullets in them..

Just a thought

kneejerkreaction 6 years, 10 months ago

hawkedperched., I don't think I wnat to live in Hawk Town. And I especially don't want to own a business.

Horace 6 years, 10 months ago

The ordinance only applies to drinking establishments and private clubs.

LC is no longer a drinking establishment or private club [they lost their liquor license].

The ordinance does not apply to LC.

Please stop citing it.

kneejerkreaction 6 years, 10 months ago

4-116 habitual public nuisance prohibited. (A) A drinking establishment or private club is a habitual public nuisance when it operates in a manner that habitually harms the public health, safety or welfare of the general public, neighboring properties or occupants of neighboring properties, or patrons. Habitual public nuisances are hereby prohibited.


Wrong, Horace. LC is a BYOB private club. See above ordinance for resolution.

kneejerkreaction 6 years, 10 months ago

...here it comes again....

4-116 habitual public nuisance prohibited. (A) A drinking establishment or private club is a habitual public nuisance when it operates in a manner that habitually harms the public health, safety or welfare of the general public, neighboring properties or occupants of neighboring properties, or patrons. Habitual public nuisances are hereby prohibited.

kneejerkreaction 6 years, 10 months ago

Hawk, I just have problems instituting new regs to take care of one bad egg. Businesses already pay more taxes than individuals and should enjoy a large slice of the services.

If things get out of hand, then see above ordinance for resolution.

exhawktown 6 years, 10 months ago

Maybe I haven't followed the history of LC closely enough, but it seems to me that individuals are committing crimes. Laws already exist to prohibit shooting someone. It's horrible what happened, yes, but is it really the fault of the business? Not the shooting.

Laws exist to prohibit underage drinking. Did LC violate the law with the 15 year old being there? Maybe. Hard for us to tell right now, since it's a byob establishment.

Lawrence officials seem very interested in general in regulating small businesses right out of town. While the LC owner might not be your typical "mom or pop," do you all really blame him for the shooting? Come on. Maybe we need more police on the force in Lawrence. Period. Maybe we need to realize there are bad people out there, even in Lawrence.

jayhawker4real 6 years, 10 months ago

Yes, enforcement of your current laws in Lawrence may help end this current string of violence and shootings. Perhaps more licensing is an answer as well. I know an answer needs to be found.

I live in Topeka and as a result of the violence at the old theaters a few years back downtown lawrence lost a lot of business from Topekans who just returned home after Jayhawk games instead of staying in Lawrence for the evening. I can assure you that this Last Call problem is resulting in the same. It is a shame this problematic owner can't be ridden out of town on a rail, properly tarred and feathered. But until the modern equivalent happens, don't expect to see me in downtown Lawrence enjoying all the other most excellent and wonderful shops, restaurants, and watering holes. That means there is no reason for me to come to Lawrence at all because what's not downtown we have here in Topeka.

Last night my friends and I decided to watch the game here in Topeka at Henry T's. At least there is one little piece of what's good about Lawrence here in Topeka. I know, Henry T's is not a downtown business but it has some of the same Lawrence charm and it is in a safer location than downtown here in Topeka too.

castarke 6 years, 10 months ago

Last Call is ridiculous!! Since when can a bar in downtown Lawrence be a "BYOB" bar and allow a 15 yr old in. As far as I am concerned the owners are running an establishment that is detrimental to the city of Lawrence and the families visiting or thinking about their kids going to school here. Also who knows what kind of crime is going on inside the Bar. I wouldn't be surprised if there are Drugs being sold and used. Anyhow shut the damn Bar down. To many people have been shot and Killed. And before you know it, a Lawrence Police officer might be next which would be extremely sad.

flyin_squirrel 6 years, 10 months ago

Henry T's had a shooting in Lawrence years ago. Now they are model citizens. This is exactly why the entertainment license is a bad idea, as this bar wouldn't exist now if we had an entertainment license when their shooting happened.

kneejerkreaction 6 years, 10 months ago

(Rocky the) flyin_squirrel - that's my point too. I don't trust city officials to not pull some sort of personal or political vendetta.

Better to not give public servants that much power.

ASBESTOS 6 years, 10 months ago

"That's what they do in other towns, and why the gangbangers have to come here. It ain't just the college poontang that's attracting them. It's that their behavior is tolerated in Lawrence."

Nail meet hammer. Very well put!

LaughingWater 6 years, 10 months ago

kneejerkreaction - you're right on. A small group of individuals should not have that kind of power. It's not right, and it's not fair that because of one bad bar owner, good bar owners have to suffer.

Loretta James 6 years, 10 months ago

It would be sad if anyone was killed everyone has family that its hard on. Shut it down before a child is the next one killed since they let them in. The owners are there for the money hes going to let the city clean it up.

kneejerkreaction 6 years, 10 months ago

The first sentence of this article is telling, "Lawrence bar owners, get ready. City leaders are serious about entertainment licenses."

Bar owners get ready? Shouldn't this first sentence have read more like, "Last Call get ready....".

Why should all bar owners expect something ominous because Last Call is a rogue bar?

kneejerkreaction 6 years, 10 months ago

And I'll say it again. The supporters of Steffes, his business and his clientele are strangely quiet.

clyde_never_barks 6 years, 10 months ago

Clasp and padlock - $5.99 Key thrown in river - Free Peace of mind between 7th and 8th on Newhampshire - Priceless

justthefacts 6 years, 10 months ago

Anything done to EVERYONE to punish ONE bad actor is a bad idea. That's how we end up with so many laws that are band aid approaches to problems.

Instead of making all places subject to new laws automatically, why not pass a new ordinance that imposes ever increasing sanctions upon those whose places have outbreaks of violence? Make them pay fines, or for increased security, or have a sliding scale of incidents (3 strikes and you are OUT)..... Why require even decent places of business to pay for the "Sins" of a few bad ones? (In this case one)!?

BalkansHawk 6 years, 10 months ago

exhawktown

"Maybe I haven't followed the history of LC closely enough, but it seems to me that individuals are committing crimes."

No you haven't, and yes they are.

"It's horrible what happened, yes, but is it really the fault of the business?"

Yes it is, and yes it is.

Crossfire 6 years, 10 months ago

...just incase we all forget who got hurt Sunday morning.

Kan. Stat. Ann. § 21-3608a. (2006). § 21-3608a. Aggravated endangering a child. (a) Aggravated endangering a child is: (1) Intentionally causing or permitting a child under the age of 18 years to be placed in a situation in which the child's life, body or health is injured or endangered; (2) recklessly causing or permitting a child under the age of 18 years to be placed in a situation in which the child's life, body or health is injured or endangered; [Drug endangered subsection omitted] (b) Aggravated endangering a child is a severity level 9, person felony. These sections pertain to Crimes Affecting Family Relationships and Children article of the Kansas criminal code. The first provision includes the language "may" be injured; the second pertains to actual injury that results from intentional or reckless endangerment.

I think the max of this is 10 years.

exhawktown 6 years, 10 months ago

And the townsfolk gathered their pitchforks and torches and chased the monster. . . . .

kneejerkreaction 6 years, 10 months ago

Crossfire, between you and whoever posted Lawrence's "Public Nuisance" ordinance, it would seem that we could hand this case over to Miss Wilson's 7th grade political science class for a slam dunk conviction.

I don't get what's wrong with this city.

Newell_Post 6 years, 10 months ago

Does anyone know for sure if the security guards who were injured were employees of LC or employees of a security company or "1099" independent contractors or "off the books" all together? It could make a huge difference in LC's liability (or shield from liability) under worker compensation laws. One way or the other, they were shot "on the job" even if not inside the premises.

LJW: can you check this out? If LC won't return your calls, try the victims themselves.

flyin_squirrel 6 years, 10 months ago

As we all know, the city is going to find a law or write a law to get rid of Last Call. The long term question is what is the city going to do about the KC and Topeka crowd Lawrence has now welcomed? An entertainment license is only going to move them from place to place in town. Corliss and Olin need to make these late night visitors to town feel unwelcome. It begins and ends with checkpoints out of town and beefed up police presence in areas of concern.

Until these criminals feel unwelcome, the problem is not going to disappear.

Crossfire 6 years, 10 months ago

kneejerkreaction

We don't need more laws we need more common sense.

kneejerkreaction 6 years, 10 months ago

CCs could pass an ordinance requiring only polka music to be played in bars.

flyin_squirrel 6 years, 10 months ago

Just heard that Dennis is going to voluntarily shut down.

I am sure this will not stop Sue and Corliss from pushing their entertainment license. And all an entertainment license is going to do is push the problem from one bar to the next. Until these criminals feel unwanted, they will continue to visit town.

flyin_squirrel 6 years, 10 months ago

Get ready for the criminals to move to a new location.

Fridays will be Abe & Jakes (a city owned property). Saturdays will be Club Axis.

And if you thought it was bad at Last Call, wait till a shooting happens inside Abe & Jakes. People will be trampled trying to get up the one flight of stairs. I pray the city does something to stop these people from coming to town before many innocent people die.

shoffner 6 years, 10 months ago

Do it City Commission! You don't do anything else!

beatrice 6 years, 10 months ago

Okay, I posted this on a related story, but thought I would share it here as well.

There is a new device that makes a high-pitch sound that people in their 20s and older can't hear, but it really bothers those who are younger. I'm not kidding. Get one -- its called "The Mosquito" -- and sit out front with it. The youngens out too late will head for the hills, or hopefully just head home. The range isn't so great that it would disturb homeowners in the neighborhood. It may not be perfect, but at least it would help control the underage problem at Last Call.

Here is the link describing the device. It is fascinating: http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe...

Michael Capra 6 years, 10 months ago

wait wait wait the city owns abe and jakes and the cops are there all the time for fights and problems.So is the city going to shut down there own building for hip hop night so Sue what are you going to due whith this problem nothing because the city owns the building

lounger 6 years, 10 months ago

Nail the doors shut! Cobwebs would be welcome....

Jeremy 6 years, 10 months ago

Dan Owen you should be ashamed of yourself!!! How much does it cost to sell out everything you believe in...

Horace 6 years, 10 months ago

kneejerkreaction:

Please take a look at the title of the section of the ordinance you are quoting:

"CHAPTER IV. BEVERAGES" "ARTICLE 1. ALCOHOLIC LIQUOR"

Chapter IV has to do with the dispensing of alcohol.

Furthermore LC is not a "private club"

Clubs are defined in § 4-101:

(D) Class A Club means a premises which is owned or leased by a corporation, partnership, business trust or association, and which is operated thereby as a bonafide nonprofit, fraternal or war veteran's club, as determined by the State of Kansas, for the exclusive use of the corporate stockholders, partners, trust beneficiaries or associates (hereinafter referred to as members), and their families and guests accompanying them.

LC is not a nonprofit and therefore not a Class A Club.

(E) Class B Club means a premises operated for a profit by a corporation, partnership, or individual, to which members of such club may resort for the consumption of food or alcoholic beverages and for entertainment.

LC's members cannot resort at LC for consumption of alcoholic beverages. LC doesn't even have members, hence its not a Class B club.

Therefore, LC is not a private club within the meaning of the ordinance and the therefore it doesn't apply.

Admittedly, the ordinance isn't well drafted. Club is defined, but private club isn't. Therefore one could argue the ordinance is unconstitutionally vague and therefore doesn't apply to anyone.

That issue notwithstanding, it's clear that Article 4 deals with places that dispense alcohol and, as such, inapplicable to LC. There may be some other ordinance or statute that applies, but this isn't it.

flyin_squirrel 6 years, 10 months ago

Members can resort to LC for the consumptions of alcoholic beverages and for entertainment. LC may not serve the beverages but the patrons are bringing in their own beverages.

If the glove fits, guilty.

unclebiff 6 years, 10 months ago

maybe they could make last call into a jail that plays rap, and is still byob!?!?!

BigPrune 6 years, 10 months ago

Informed, AllStars in north Lawrence is a strip joint and it's within the city limits.

akt2 6 years, 10 months ago

He will probably close down now. He is a lame duck. His employees are shot up. The state won't give him a liquor license. The District Attorney is on his ass. He is not making any money. It is a lost cause.

unclebiff 6 years, 10 months ago

how 'bout an arts and crafts store, that plays hip hop?

infidel785 6 years, 10 months ago

Newell_Post (Anonymous) says: "Does anyone know for sure if the security guards who were injured were employees of LC or employees of a security company or "1099" independent contractors or "off the books" all together? It could make a huge difference in LC's liability (or shield from liability) under worker compensation laws. One way or the other, they were shot "on the job" even if not inside the premises."

ANSWER: Employees that get paid cash of the books. Not listed with the ABC. No 1099 or anything reported. In fact, the majority of his employees are "cash" off the books.

infidel785 6 years, 10 months ago

Horace:

How can they not resort to Last Call for consumption of alcohol? It is byob, so there is alcohol. Last call Charges a cover charge to get in (something that requires them to be considered a private club, other wise it would make it illegal for them to charge money.). It is no different than the Outhouse. There are ways around it but it is very complicated and I wouldn't expect you to understand based on you interpretation of the above cited ordinances! You are an idiot.

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