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Advertising spam is extremely annoying!! I have started a 'crusade' against all advertising spam I come across in articles. However, I am just one person and would like others to join me in this 'crusade.'

One of the things I have noticed is that this spam tends to show up early in the morning on the front page with most articles having only one comment. It would be helpful if others would be alert to this tendency and view the articles with only one comment in order to identify and suggest removal of the spam early.

If enough people suggest removal the account[s] can be banned earlier.

Thank you

Comments

RoeDapple 4 years, 8 months ago

rbwaa ~ many mornings I am up by 3 AM. Part of my morning ritual has become the search for and suggest removal of the spam posted and in some cases blogged. Kind of a pain to go see what others have posted about a local news event only to find 3 repeat posts peddling cheap watches

LadyJ 4 years, 8 months ago

Been doing the same in the mornings. You would think the LJW would have figured out the early morning thing and just watch for it.

rbwaa 4 years, 8 months ago

Thank you. Every effort helps. I will try to respond to as many of these comments as possible in order to keep it on the 'most discussed' feed.

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LadyJ 4 years, 8 months ago

You know it has to be the same person. JW should figure out who they are and charge them for the advertising, they would stop quick. Do a Lew.

rbwaa 4 years, 8 months ago

The spamming account names change frequently which makes it difficult to keep on top of them. Hopefully with everyone suggesting removal on all that we come across it will help.

Jonathan Kealing 4 years, 8 months ago

Thanks for clicking suggest removal on the spam. It certainly makes it easier to find. We're working on a pattern-based technology fix to ban the comments before they get posted, but that takes a little bit of time to get right. Thanks for your help.

Jonathan Kealing Online editor

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 8 months ago

A question for jKealing, does it present a problem for you if multiple persons flag the same spam?

Jonathan Kealing 4 years, 8 months ago

Not really. It does make my e-mail box more full (234 e-mails this morning!), but that's not really a problem. Just makes me jump out of bed a little faster when I flip my BlackBerry over and see that many messages waiting for me.

Boston_Corbett 4 years, 8 months ago

rbwaa, I think we all do our part to keep this stuff out...but you need to understand the forums do not have a 24/7 babysitter. Especially at 6 am.

People should help by flagging as Jonathan suggests, so when he starts the day he can do a quick flush.

rbwaa 4 years, 8 months ago

I appreciate your efforts Jonathan, I understand how difficult it is to keep on top of it.

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RoeDapple 4 years, 8 months ago

jeez. . .if I got 234 emails per MONTH I would toss this laptop!

feeble 4 years, 7 months ago

I get twice that in a regular work day (500+), although only 100-150 require a real response.

Jonathan Kealing 4 years, 8 months ago

I'd rather get it too many times than not at all. And usually I get it a little snappier, but I like to sleep in on weekends!

RoeDapple 4 years, 8 months ago

Nothing like a day off! For a while . .a little . . .sometimes . . .maybe

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 8 months ago

Yeah, Informed, I'm OCD, so I went through every singe front page article and flagged every single one of those spams. When I was done, I started wondering whether that was going to cause jkealing problems or not!

Seems to me it should be a "five flags you're out" policy, until some better system can be worked out, considering how bad this problem has become.

Plus I wonder, does anyone actually buy anything as a result of those spams?

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 8 months ago

Oh, excuse me, I said "buy anything",,,, I meant "get ripped off"!

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 8 months ago

Yeah, you're probably right. I suppose I've had a few posts flagged too by ticked off readers. The one time I actually did get my post deleted though, I considered it to be very unfair - all I did was post the most well known website of our dear friend Rev. Fred Phelps, of The Westboro Babtist Church. That posting lasted only a few minutes.

Another time, I just about jumped out of my chair when I realized that I had just posted about an upcoming holocaust survivor's talk, gave the address, and then mentioned that a book about her experiences would be available there. That's technically a violation of the TOS, commercial interest, even though the proceeds all go to charity. But, the posting was left online.

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 8 months ago

And it was NOT the one about the gay agenda.

tomatogrower 4 years, 8 months ago

I must get up too late. What are these spams advertising?

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 8 months ago

I'll clip and paste one and forward it to you in a private message tomorrow. I'm sure there will be plenty there then! Fake Gucci somethings, among other things.

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 8 months ago

P.S. With only one exception, they were all identical.

classclown 4 years, 8 months ago

Jonathan

What if you had a ' Flag User' ability? That way if someone sees spam, they can flag the user instead of searching for and flagging all the individual comments. Might help keep your inbox from getting stuffed.

After all, these guys aren't posting anything of substance. Just the spam. So you would easily notice it from the User Comments section of their profile.

puddleglum 4 years, 8 months ago

huh. I thought that this blog was anti-advertising... now that would have been funny.

beatrice 4 years, 8 months ago

Different thing, but related. Ever get to a page, and there is so much junk flashing and blinking all over the page that it makes it difficult to read? Well, there is a great app you can use called Readability. It removes all the clutter, and it is free. Put it in your favorites link, click it when reading, and poof, all the junk is gone. Want to view the page as you originally found it? Just hit refresh. It is great for researchers who print out a lot of articles but don't want to waste ink printing the ads. Here is a story about it in New York Times, and how you can get it. I believe it was called the best app of the year. http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/06/cleaning-up-the-clutter-online/?scp=2&sq=readability&st=cse

rbwaa 4 years, 8 months ago

i have yahoo email, how come spam gets filtered out there? is their filter too expensive to apply here?

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 8 months ago

I believe they use a "vote" system to identify spam, as well as checks to see if it is coming from automated systems. Probably a bit to expensive for a smaller website like LJworld.com, maybe.

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 8 months ago

Since the spam postings are all identical, seems to me that if identical posts are on multiple threads, the LJworld.com software could easily find them and globally delete all of them, along with that user account.

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 7 months ago

Oh yeah, that would be a terrible loss, I'm sure.

labmonkey 4 years, 8 months ago

Perhaps it is the work of Grey Goose advertising.

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 8 months ago

Yeah, I know what you mean about driving the users crazy! I replied to a post that was later deleted, leaving only my response, which made no sense without the comment I was referring to!

And BTW, I do like the threaded comments feature!

RoeDapple 4 years, 8 months ago

only an awareness, don't play the game . . .

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 8 months ago

Maybe there will need to be some sort of verification added for the anonymous posters also, sort of like those squiggly letters and characters that you have to type in in order to activate your account on some other websites. The software for that might cost some money, though.

But someone else has already pointed out that there are already some dormant accounts waiting for instructions to post. So, we're probably stuck with flagging spam for a while.

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 8 months ago

Gee, it's not often I have to look up a word in here! From Google: A "CAPTCHA" is a program that can generate and grade tests that humans can pass but current computer programs cannot. For example, humans can read distorted text as the one shown below, but current computer programs can't:

Must have been some software progress since that was posted.

Boston_Corbett 4 years, 8 months ago

I'm with you Roe.

Woof Woof Indeed.

Stop Dog Abuse. Especially in Wyandotte County.

Maybe Jonathan will figure it out.

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 8 months ago

Bummer, half the time I can't even do it myself!

Boston_Corbett 4 years, 7 months ago

uh oh, you mentioned the name. .....trouble brewing there......

Woof Woof

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 8 months ago

Gee, I've managed to find some of those sites on my own! One of them infected my computer so badly that it wouldn't even boot up, and I had to take it to a computer store to get it cleaned up. They did a great job!

Can't name the store in here, but I think it's OK for me to private message you back telling you who they are if you private message me and ask.

That's OK, isn't it, jkealing?

Fixed_Asset 4 years, 8 months ago

Hmmmm. I'm just wondering. Do you think the University of Kansas Housing Dept. will appreciate you using their address Mr. Kentucky? I'm thinking they won't like your kind of representation much at all.

beatrice 4 years, 8 months ago

Hey RoeD, I've only known of one person who knew this much about spam -- Nick Danger!

If you look at "1614," it clearly has the number 6. Add the remaining numbers together, 1 + 1 + 4 = 6, and there are 6 letters in the last name "Danger." 666. Mark of the Beast.

Has "it" returned?

i sure the biosolids hope not.

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 8 months ago

No! 666 is the beginning code of all the zip codes of Topeka, Kansas. So, our dear friend, the Reverend Fred Phelps of The Westboro Babtist Church, just might be the beast, since he's in that zip code.

That makes just about as much sense as anything he has his family picket!

bearded_gnome 4 years, 8 months ago

Yeah, I know what you mean about driving the users crazy! I replied to a post that was later deleted, leaving only my response, which made no sense without the comment I was referring to!

---D----d good argument against the threading!

avoid the threads if you want to be read!

stop the threaddeddededdednesses

1614Kentucky? sure seems experienced as a poster...suppose LJWorld printed his picture last year??? wonder why he chose 1614KY? important location in his personal history?

C Cleaner is darned good stuff!

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 7 months ago

Maybe I don't want to really be read, and I'm just exercising my fingers!

Naw, I like for a response to someone to be right below their comments if I'm responding to them - very few readers care to scroll up to find an antecedent for what I'm replying to. A running comment thread is much easier to follow that way.

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 7 months ago

Well I'm frustrated, tomatogrower wanted to see one of the spams, and the only one so far today, as of about 5:00 AM, was the one about

"Need a job? With new Obama Health Care Plan,".

So I clipped that one and forwarded it to tomatogrower, no new fake Gucci shoes for anyone this morning, I guess! Maybe they only come in waves.

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 7 months ago

I think I get the idea - the spammers knew that their spam would be removed by the staff first thing Monday morning, hence they posted so much very early on Sunday morning. So, they put most of it online Sunday, thinking it would be there all day long.

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 7 months ago

Next weekend we'll find out if my theory is true!

LadyJ 4 years, 7 months ago

Check under reader blogs, there are a couple of spam blogs there. Seem to have at least two a day.

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 7 months ago

Damn, didn't even think to check there! And I was trying so hard to find one of the usual ones to forward to tomatogrower. Of course, tomatogrower will realize there's no point in even reading those spams when he/she sees them.

rbwaa 4 years, 7 months ago

i'm really glad to see all the interest in suggest removal for all 'spammertizing' -- hopefully this approach will effectively eliminate most of that...thanks

RoeDapple 4 years, 7 months ago

Yes, and not too surprising what a blog like this brings to the light . . .

Kontum1972 4 years, 7 months ago

i love's me spam warmed up in a hot cast iron skillet....then some eggs looking at you.

mmmmmmmmm........mmmmmmmmmm!

bearded_gnome 4 years, 7 months ago

RH: Naw, I like for a response to someone to be right below their comments if I'm responding to them - very few readers care to scroll up to find an antecedent for what I'm replying to. A running comment thread is much easier to follow that way.

---many of us come back to a thread later, to where we stopped reading, to read down from there. thus the new posts tucked in above don't get read.
plus, the threadededdededness completely whipes out the value of post numbering.


yes, reader blogs are often spam opportunities. oh, did somebody say something about an Oak, Irish spring, the Mariposa pine, a Careerwoman, or Hermione of greek mythology?

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 7 months ago

Well, there is another advantage of the present threaded system, if you have a bunch of garbage you don't want to pollute the page with, the third reply comes out collapsed, unless the reader cares to open it. I like to leave some of my comments in that collapsed state when I think only a very few, if any, would be interested in reading them.

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 7 months ago

And P.S. I ususally don't remember exactly where I stopped reading at,,,

brujablanco 4 years, 7 months ago

This should clear a few things up:

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Gnome, I am intrigued by your comments - what in the world do trees, springs and Harry Potter characters have in common? HAHAHAHA

RoeDapple 4 years, 7 months ago

Amazing! Do ya really think it wuz . . .?

RoeDapple 4 years, 7 months ago

sumbuddy gots disapearededed . . .

♣woof♣

rbwaa 4 years, 7 months ago

i am honored; the nameless gets disapearedededed on my blog...♣♣♣

rbwaa 4 years, 7 months ago

♣did somebody 'suggest removal' ??♣

Boston_Corbett 4 years, 7 months ago

♣Woof Woof♣

Not me. Besides, there is no 'suggest removal' button for abusive posters.

I hear that he-who-can-not-be mentioned has registered for the Free State Social conference under an assumed name after being denied attendance.

RoeDapple 4 years, 7 months ago

What if he is wearing a disguise?

http://api.ning.com/files/8v3m9fgGhzXvNsxgfDOOPiz2mpfytHsz3BVMJbqFo_/phoenix_rising.jpg

♣Woof Woof♣

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 7 months ago

I looked and looked for spam this morning and could not find any. I really wanted to find at least one of the regular ones, because tomatogrower asked what they were trying to sell. So, I was looking for one to forward to him/her.

Did anyone else have any luck? Maybe someone got removed and the spam went with him?

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 7 months ago

I'm very often one of the ones reading between maybe midnight and 3 AM, and again at maybe 4:30 AM until later. I did ask jKealing a while back if it was a problem for him if he had several posters flagging the same spam, and the answer was, "Not really." So, I took him at his word.

But this morning early, there was only one spam. Hopefully most of the spam disappeared with "one of the posters."

BTW, that disappeared poster sure did seem to know a lot about spamming.

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 7 months ago

Wow! But if you leave out "Sydney" you get more hits! And now I get the "Nick Danger" comments! Thanks!

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 7 months ago

But here's what I don't understand - the stuff that was being sold (fake designer stuff and fake training) by the spammer was so obviously junk that I just can't understand why anyone would have any interest in it.

RoeDapple 4 years, 7 months ago

Ron ~ The idea isn't really to sell you anything. Just to get as many as possible to click on for whatever reason. Then, guess what? Infected!

Flap Doodle 4 years, 7 months ago

Woof.

Any comment that contains information about Snap's College of Taxidermy & Cheese Making should never be considered spam. Especially not during our 2-for-1 special on raccoons and swiss.

rbwaa 4 years, 7 months ago

i've noticed that much of the spammertizing i come across is posted around 7 a.m. -- i've come across several this morning...

rbwaa 4 years, 7 months ago

...and, i think it's a different account than ones i've seen before ... maybe the spammer is changing the account daily and later after the middle-of-the-nighters have suggested removal...which indicates we should keep suggesting removal

rbwaa 4 years, 7 months ago

btw Ron, you can usually find the spammers by opening the articles that only have one comment...

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 7 months ago

It's baaaack,,,,,,,, This time three spams were posted all about 1 AM, under the name ClaressaLaina, a new account opened up only this morning.

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