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Tired of Homosexual's Bullying

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I'm tired of homosexuals trying to coerce people into accepting their ignorant view of sexual reality. Their attacks on the Chick-Fil-A chain simply because the CEO says homosexual marriage is wrong. is unjustified bullying.

Homosexuals need to accept the fact that many people believe what they do is immoral and that same sex marriage is wrong. Most of us do things that some people believe are morally wrong.

A billion people believe that what I do for breakfast every day is wrong. Muslims and Jews as well as members of some other religions believe eating pork is morally wrong. Some individuals believe eating any meat is wrong.

Muslims and many Christian denominations believe drinking alcohol is wrong. Jews as well as Roman Catholics and some other Christian groups believe drinking alcohol in moderation is acceptable.

Religious groups usually believe the moral values they support benefit society. For example, those groups that oppose alcohol consumption do so because those who consume excess alcohol can become violent. Thousands of years of human history demonstrate the value of basing a society on marriage between a man and a woman. Religious groups understandably are concerned that same sex unions could have a negative impact on society.

In the sixties some people, including members of some religious groups, believed that those of us who served in Vietnam were doing something wrong. I didn't advocate punishing anti-war protesters for their beliefs even though I disagreed with them.

One of my favorite television show quotes is from "The Winds of War". Robert Mitchum's character, an American naval officer, tells a German military attache that he believes one of Hitler's actions was morally wrong. The German replies, "it was worse than wrong. It was a mistake."

In other words the action in question would have been a bad idea even if there weren't any moral objections.

Same sex marriage is worse than wrong. It's absurd. Same sex marriage is an oxymoron. Marriage unites the two different types of humans into a unit that contains the characteristics of both sexes. Marriage is a salt shaker and a pepper shaker. A same sex union is two salt shakers or two pepper shakers.

I strongly suspect homosexuals so desperately want people to believe what they are doing is all right because these homosexuals have doubts about the morality of what they are doing. They want others to reassure them that they aren't acting immorally.

Those who really believe what they are doing is morally ok don't care if others think the activity is wrong.

It never bothered me that anti-war protesters believed my participation in Vietnam was wrong. Their statements didn't upset me because I didn't think I was doing anything wrong. I may have had doubts about whether the people in charge knew what they were doing, but I didn't believe what we were doing was wrong.

I feel sorry for homosexuals. They are born with an affliction most of them don't understand. They are born with the body of one sex and the brain of the other. However, that affliction doesn't justify trying to coerce others into accepting their beliefs. Instead of trying to pretend they are heterosexuals by calling a relationship with someone just like them a marriage, they should be attempting to raise money for sex change operations that would allow them to have a body that is the same sex as their brains.

Homosexuals have trouble relating to the real world. They like to make believe such as by putting on black leather jackets and pretending they are "macho macho men". They have their silly little parades where they dress up in outlandish costumes much like children putting on their parents clothes. Pretending that a relationship with someone who is the same as them is a "marriage" is another one of those games.

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fiddleback 2 years, 2 months ago

But really, what's all that tight leather about? It's just so...so...bullying.

Like that biker with the scent of cheap alcohol on his breath. Tight pants creaking like a rusty door hinge as he makes his way across the bar and pins you to the wall with that smoky glare of his. Ya wanna run but ya can’t … can’t move. It’s like he’s trapped you...like some...helpless woodland creature. You guys know what that’s like, right?

Right??

Yeah, it kinda sounds like Reasonmclucus just visited the "wrong" bar a few too many times...

fiddleback 2 years, 2 months ago

I do enjoy that he didn't know the plural possessive of homosexuals, making the headline read like there's some singular gay guy or lesbian taking his lunch money...

jonas_opines 2 years, 2 months ago

It's easy enough to just not read them. Personally, I find them to offer at least a little personal insight as to what mental gymnastics some people use to justify their theories and (in this case at least I'll just say it) bigotry.

beatrice 2 years, 2 months ago

The information age is full of ignorance.

Who knows, maybe the ability to blog prevents this birther from climbing a water tower with rifle in hand.

costello 2 years, 2 months ago

I thought the boycott of Chick-Fil-A had to do with its financial support of certain organizations which were actively opposed to gay rights in some way. I'm not sure how that constitutes bullying. If a business is using part of its profits to support issues I oppose or oppose issues I support, and I feel very strongly about those issues, I'll stop going there. If I continue to spend money there, I feel like a bit of that money is going toward political and social organizations I don't agree with.

In a post-Citizens United world, I feel like where I spend my money is almost more important that who I vote for. If I can figure out which politicians and political groups company X is giving money to, I know whether I should do business with them or not. If money is speech, I want to control what I'm saying with mine.

Anyway it's still a free country, and if people don't like Chick-Fil-A - for whatever reason, they're free not to eat there.

jonas_opines 2 years, 2 months ago

"I thought the boycott of Chick-Fil-A had to do with its financial support of certain organizations which were actively opposed to gay rights in some way."

No, that can't be right, because then the gay people aren't the bad ones. Can't have that. It must be about Free Speech!! Which I don't actually understand, but I know in my heart it means that I can say any damned fool thing I want and people are infringing upon it when they criticize me, or I face any consequences to what I just said.

scarlett 2 years, 2 months ago

Chickfila gives to anti LGBT hate groups like NOM, some of whom want to not only ban equal rights/marriage, but who advocate putting gays in concentration camps. The Southern Poverty Law Center has investigated these organizations. If chickfila wants to support these groups they can, but they won't get my money, and I will let others know why I won't . It's very serious business out there in religious right world.

fiddleback 2 years, 2 months ago

If you're really interested in voting with your wallet, you might now turn your attention to Hobby Lobby...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/12/hobby-lobby-morning-after-pill_n_1878873.html

They're filing a suit and refusing to cover employees using not only the morning-after pill, but the much more common intrauterine device. The IUD, while it primarily just prevents conception, is dubiously rumored to also prevent implantation of fertilized eggs. They of course object to the latter on religious grounds. Wonderful quibbling.

I've never eaten at Chick-Fil-A, but damned if I haven't had to sometimes get a supply at Hobby Lobby that I can't find at Michael's. Guess it's time to try harder...

scarlett 2 years, 2 months ago

Yus it is. Yesterday I went to Michael's instead of hobby lobby, and, hey, they have a lot more craft stuff instead of crappy furniture and ~objet d'arts.

tomatogrower 2 years, 2 months ago

But Michael's framing department needs improvement. I would prefer Michael's too. They need to do what Hobby Lobby does with frames.

kernal 2 years, 2 months ago

Rambling foolishness. This is why I rarely read his blogs.

beerbaron03 2 years, 2 months ago

Are you kidding? The rambling foolishness is precisely WHY i read his blogs.

Topple 2 years, 2 months ago

The title alone is a lesson in irony.

Darrell Lea 2 years, 2 months ago

Thank you for posting a photo on your profile. I don't like walking on the same side of the street with ignorant bigots. Now that I know what you look like I can cross the street when I see you coming.

jafs 2 years, 2 months ago

These sorts of things are tiresome, but...

Most gay people I know don't care so much what others think of them as whether or not they have equal rights in our society.

When they can not be discriminated against for housing, employment, etc. and can form lasting partnerships that confer the same legal rights as marriage does for heterosexuals, get back to me.

Then we'll see how much they care about your opinion of them, once it doesn't result in discrimination.

If anyone is "bullying" anybody, it's those who deny homosexuals equal rights.

As mentioned above, the Chick-Fil-A CEO donates a significant amount of money to groups that are actively working to continue denying equal legal rights to gay and lesbian folks. Those groups have every right to choose not to spend their money at that restaurant chain.

Topple 2 years, 2 months ago

Well, jafs saved me three minutes of typing...

Kendall Simmons 2 years, 2 months ago

Actually, he probably is friends with at least one homosexual...but just doesn't know it.

Unlike his bizarre ideas about gays (this is the 21st century...you'd think he'd know better by now), all gays are not alike and they most certainly don't all get in your face about being gay.

mom_of_three 2 years, 2 months ago

If that was all the founder said, that was fine. But it wasn't. The founder made comments that god would come down on the world and that children of gays are more emotionally unstable. THAT kind of bs is what made the boycott, along with the donations to the right wing christian orgs

scarlett 2 years, 2 months ago

This is about a business that actively, proudly supports known hate groups, the new KKK, nazi-like groups. Spending money at chickfila supports hate. Chickfila is NOT the victim, the targets of their hatred are.

somedude20 2 years, 2 months ago

Didn't the state just pass a bill that allows people to (discriminate) not rent to homosexuals, not cover birth control (but does cover viagra) not hire people different than them due to thier "religious" beliefs? "As a good Christian, God would not want me to rent to a homo or employ a colored." -Random Kansas Christian

Liberty275 2 years, 2 months ago

""As a good Christian, God would not want me to rent to a homo or employ a colored." -Random Kansas Christian"

That is an inaccurate characterization. You know better.

However, in the name of fairness, Here is your chance to name a Kansas company that won't hire homosexuals or people with different-colred skin.

Pastor_Bedtime 2 years, 2 months ago

"they should be attempting to raise money for sex change operations that would allow them to have a body that is the same sex as their brains." Did you go to the Todd Akin school of medicine?

It sounds like you are a bit too enamored with the "macho macho men" here.

"Pretending that a relationship with someone who is the same as them is a "marriage" is another one of those games. " Like pretending you're anything but a radical, bigoted zealot?

Letters like these will result in more ~ not less ~ tolerance toward homosexuality, as it quite effectively sheds light upon the bigots out there.

ST3V3N 2 years, 2 months ago

You think THEY are out of touch? You think THEY are bullies? To say you feel sorry for someone you don't even know is rude and obnoxious. I have an old friend who's gay. He seems pretty happy to me. He works hard and is in a happy long term relationship for many years......nothing I can see to feel sorry about.

Cait McKnelly 2 years, 2 months ago

He is obviously confused about the difference between homosexual and transgender.

deec 2 years, 2 months ago

I think it's more like "everything I know about gay people I got from watching the Village People."

Pastor_Bedtime 2 years, 2 months ago

I'd far rather have a same-sex couple move in next door than a bigoted, self-righteous homophobe. You can bet a same-sex couple would be far more likely to understand the concept of good fences = good neighbors, than the writer of this blog..

MarcoPogo 2 years, 2 months ago

"They like to make believe such as by putting on black leather jackets.

The Ramones weren't gay.

kernal 2 years, 2 months ago

I'd like to see him tell that to a Hells Angel!

somedude20 2 years, 2 months ago

Not that it matters but as a huge fan, Dee Dee turned tricks in NY (53rd &3rd, a song he wrote about it) working the gay market and with his drug habbits, still did it while in the Ramones (dee dee wrote a good book years ago)

MarcoPogo 2 years, 2 months ago

As a huge fan, then you also know that it was nearly impossible to separate fact from fiction with Dee Dee, especially in those books. (Though I agree on the 53rd and 3rd story.) If you want some real fun, go to YouTube and watch different interviews with him and compare his answers to those in other interviews. Then spend the rest of the day listening to Dee Dee King. :)

somedude20 2 years, 2 months ago

I tend to believe him about male hookin for a number of reasons a) drugs and hunger for em. b) dee dee king was a survivor c) there are many other things to brag about to get street cred. the only thing better than dee dee king were the videos, though he did write the bulk of the Ramones tracks and even while not in the band

tolawdjk 2 years, 2 months ago

Did he actually equate homosexuality to eating bacon?

Has the govt. outlawed the consumption of fried, cured pork belly and i missed it?

Wait. Chick-Fil-A doesn't have bacon on their menu, does it?

I could write more, but this blog doesn't deserve it.

deec 2 years, 2 months ago

I think he may have been thinking of eating some sausage at the time. He just got his breakfast meats confused.

StirrrThePot 2 years, 2 months ago

Wow, there's just all kinds of stupid in this rant.

Sadly, you can't fix stupid.

Nor can you seem to fix the abundant overuse of the term "bullying". The next time the author is beaten up, has his property vandalized, or has some other crime committed against him for simply being a different human being than what's considered "normal", then I think he can talk about bullying. Until then, I thank him for being a public example of what not to be, and what happens when you choose not to be thoughtful or educated on a topic. Realizing just how confused and ignorant people can be is about the only good that can come of this garbage, ignorance-filled editorial. Hopefully no brain cells were lost among people who took the time to read it. Fortunately I stopped at the horrible salt and pepper metaphor.

asixbury 2 years, 2 months ago

Homosexuals aren't asking for "special accomodations." They are asking to be treated equal in the eyes of the laws of this country. This is something heterosexuals already enjoy, but deny the homosexuals.

Pastor_Bedtime 2 years, 2 months ago

Bigotry is a "fault". Homosexuality is not.

Glenn Reed 2 years, 2 months ago

Not sure why everyone's getting bent out of shape.. this is satire.

Y'know, like the Online or the Daily Currant.

This guy should be commended for his admirable focus on staying in character.

jonas_opines 2 years, 2 months ago

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Poe's_Law

I'm not buying it, in this case. But I've been wrong before.

Stuart Evans 2 years, 2 months ago

I've always thought the blog was satire as well.. at least, I really really hope it is..

mom_of_three 2 years, 2 months ago

Well, lets see. Lets hope this is satire. In case it isn't, marriage in the bible is described many, many ways.
AND as he said, there are things we do every day that many religions do not adhere to; drinking, smoking, etc. BUT this is a civil rights issue. You can not use a religious diatribe that YOU think is wrong and deny rights to a portion of the population. They tried to use it for slavery, for biracial marriage and it didn't work then. IT shouldn't work now. Just because your religion doesn't agree with it, doesn't mean it shouldn't be allowed. Religious beliefs does not belong in government.
All men created equal... that is what is important.

kernal 2 years, 2 months ago

"...this is satire." I don't think so, Glenn. You may want to read his Blog on same sex marriage.

Kendall Simmons 2 years, 2 months ago

Heck...Glenn and AreUNormal should read his other blog posts. There is no way on earth this is satire. I wish it were...but it's not even close.

jonas_opines 2 years, 2 months ago

The length of time, quantity of posts, and consistency of . . . . shall I use "logic"? (perhaps facetiously) . . . over the posting history says to me that the writer is either serious, and thus a fool, or a parody, and thus a genius. I find one of those to be much more likely that the other.

MarcoPogo 2 years, 2 months ago

According to the headline, only one gay person has been pushing this blogger around. Perhaps it's time for him to take karate lessons and leave the rest of us out of it?

riverdrifter 2 years, 2 months ago

I only read the first two lines of this because of all the comments. Yet another miserable blog post by this being. I agree with O_Bob: most likely a drunken rant.

phoggyjay 2 years, 2 months ago

He looks suspiciously like the man in leather pants who was hitting on me last Wednesday night at Wilde's! Come out already!! See you again tonight? My Macho Macho Man. Kisses.

grammaddy 2 years, 2 months ago

Most "gay-haters" I know aren't very secure in their own sexuality. Case in point.....

Leslie Swearingen 2 years, 2 months ago

I totally agree with the blog. I simply cannot understand things like homosexuality, transgender, etc. I don't hate those people, I am just saying that all of it mystifies me. Can anyone try to understand those like me who are simply confused by such things?

jonas_opines 2 years, 2 months ago

I say the same thing about people who don't like tacos.

deec 2 years, 2 months ago

You can be as confused as you like. Just please don't let your confusion, or religious beliefs, dictate civil rights for other people.

It isn't that complicated. Some people are innately attracted to people of the opposite sex. Some are innately attracted to people of the same sex. Some are attracted to both sexes, or neither sex. Consenting human adults who are attracted to members of the same sex should be allowed to enjoy the rights and responsibilities of a civil marriage.

beatrice 2 years, 2 months ago

You agree that people standing up for their right to live their lives as they see fit is bullying to those who wish to stop them from doing so? Wow.

jafs 2 years, 2 months ago

Read the blog again, and consider whether or not you really agree with it.

I understand that you're confused - that's about as much as I can get from your post.

Many things that many people do don't make sense to me - it's just something that one has to come to terms with, in my experience.

beatrice 2 years, 2 months ago

In other words: I want OTHER PEOPLE to live as I want them to live, not as they choose.

Another silly blog from a self-proclaimed birther.

beatrice 2 years, 2 months ago

No, he doesn't respond. He apparently can't handle answer legitimate questions, like: Do you know that passage of gay marriage doesn't make it mandatory?

jonas_opines 2 years, 2 months ago

He does occasionally drop in and throw out a comment, that really isn't anything but a restatement of some original thing in his blog, as if it's support. But it generally doesn't happen until a day or two after we've all had our way with his words and moved on to greener pastures.

beatrice 2 years, 2 months ago

"A same sex union is two salt shakers or two pepper shakers."

No it isn't -- its paprika!

beerbaron03 2 years, 2 months ago

"Marriage unites the two different types of humans into a unit that contains the characteristics of both sexes. Marriage is a salt shaker and a pepper shaker. A same sex union is two salt shakers or two pepper shakers."

you know, all this time i was confused by the "liberal media" of what a same sex union would be, but you've helped me clear that up, thank you.

"Homosexuals have trouble relating to the real world. They like to make believe such as by putting on black leather jackets and pretending they are "macho macho men"

talk about a broad brush...wow. i suppose he also thinks that every Hispanic works at Chipotle and that ever German runs around in lederhosen.

Liberty275 2 years, 2 months ago

Homosexuals have the same freedom to speak as we all do. You shouldn't feel bullied, you should feel proud.

fiddleback 2 years, 2 months ago

Freedom to speak, sure. Property, insurance, and visitation rights? Not so much. Comprende?

fiddleback 2 years, 2 months ago

Ah, I misread who "you" was referencing. Nevermind.

Liberty275 2 years, 2 months ago

It's OK. Screen names are a little hard to remember. I support complete equality for homosexuals and other non-traditional marriages as long as all partners consent, including the things you mention.

It's time America payed more than lip service to equality. Libertarianism demands it and we are the future.

90sgirl 2 years, 2 months ago

Before the internet, this bigot could only hold these vile thoughts inside his head or yell from the rooftops, now his poisonous stupidity goes everywhere. How's it feel to be part of the problem?

Also, not everyone likes salt AND pepper.

Liberty275 2 years, 2 months ago

His thoughts aren't vile. He has religious objections to homosexuality. That is a protected right. He is wrong because his god said so and nothing more. If you are so insecure in your beliefs that you think words that disagree with you are capable of being poisonous, then you should rethink your own commitment.

90sgirl 2 years, 2 months ago

The writer is part of the problem - I hope he can learn something from this although his general tone suggests he fancies himself to be all-knowing.

Note: Not everyone likes salt AND pepper.

beatrice 2 years, 2 months ago

So those "I'm a Pepper, you're a Pepper, wouldn't you like to be a Pepper too?" commercials are just coded propoganda for the gay agenda? Who knew?

Topple 2 years, 2 months ago

"I feel sorry for homosexuals. They are born with an affliction most of them don't understand. They are born with the body of one sex and the brain of the other. However, that affliction doesn't justify trying to coerce others into accepting their beliefs."

You, sir, are born with an affliction called "ignorant bigot."

So, your position is, if someone has different beliefs than yours and they simply want to have the same rights as everyone else, then they're "coercing others into accepting their beliefs?" I recommend opening a dictionary and looking up the word, "coerce." I don't see the gay community rallying to forcibly convert people to homosexuality. What I do see, is Americans rallying to be treated the same as everyone else.

We have freedom of religion in this country, and I can guarantee you not all of them conform to your beliefs. Should we eliminate those which don't fit your model? You're a scared, pathetic man, and I pity you.

Liberty275 2 years, 2 months ago

I think the lesbian population is higher than the gay population.

fiddleback 2 years, 2 months ago

They may enjoy the occasional doobie, but then who doesn't...

jonas_opines 2 years, 2 months ago

Gay pop in Lawrence is pretty much just rehash of standard 80's pop, I think.

90sgirl 2 years, 2 months ago

The writer's problem is that he thinks that the LGBT folk have a 'problem' that they don't understand when, in fact, it is the writer who does not understand. He is to be pitied.

bring_JOHN_BROWN_back 2 years, 2 months ago

What you eat for breakfast is a CHOICE. To LGBT individuals, their sexuality has been biologically determined; there is no choice....except the choice to repress and deny themselves of true enjoyment.

Katara 2 years, 2 months ago

The first link that comes up on your "link" is from realjock.com.

That's hilarious!

Klumma 2 years, 2 months ago

Um... Ok... Just reading between the lines of this vile blog. So what you are saying is that after a night out of buying drinks at the bar for and hitting on lets call him, "Stevie" in his leathers, something left you hot and bothered after he shut you down?

Needed to feel vilified by hastily writing this junk I would think. I wonder how many times you "proof read" before posting.

/ violent whacking gesture

Liberty275 2 years, 2 months ago

"/ violent whacking gesture"

Be careful, it will chafe is you whack it too hard.

CharonFerryman 2 years, 2 months ago

Wow! Reasonmucus (or whatever---somehow Reasonmucus seems more fitting than the way you misspelled your own name in the byline)! You are an idiot! I came here because of the wacky title of your post and you did not disappoint! Your incoherent tirade against the gays has been duly noted and will be inscribed in the annals of drooling moron bigots for all to celebrate!

I was thinking of correcting some of your delusional nonsense but, you know what? Just keep spewing! Next time, why not whine about how women are oppressing you by asking you to not vote for the "legitimate rape" guy!

Okay, then. Thanks! And try not to soil yourself too much while straining your tiny brain to come up with "words" to put in your next "post"! Bye, bye, now.

Klumma 2 years, 2 months ago

Rock on! And, thanks for the laugh.

Klumma 2 years, 2 months ago

"It never bothered me that anti-war protesters believed my participation in Vietnam was wrong. Their statements didn't upset me because I didn't think I was doing anything wrong."

Damn, Rambo. Sorry to be off topic but I just read your enthralling Bio. Then again, I guess it is on topic in a way since you put it on the table. Ever considered detailing your "In Country" accounts to Oliver Stone? Could be a movie deal in there. Could be called Platoon 2. Or, Clerks 2. Give it a shot Warrior!

adagio 2 years, 2 months ago

Appears to me (and anyone else of sound mind) that you are the bully and really need to get a life. People like you set the world back and I highly doubt any queer person would hit in you, as they'd be able to spot your ignorance a mile away. Meat eating is a choice, being queer is not.

gl0ck0wn3r 2 years, 2 months ago

The inordinate amount of attention the original writer - using the term loosely - gives to this subject is interesting at best. The rest of the writing is so bad that I wonder if the LJW makes any attempt to vet this stuff.

kernal 2 years, 2 months ago

Wait until you see today's blog.

Someone needs to explain plagiarzing to him.

funkdog1 2 years, 2 months ago

I'm tired of armchair columnists who don't have even a basic grasp of American English grammar.

Bob Forer 2 years, 2 months ago

A knave and a fool. Why do we continue to read his nonsense?

Fatty_McButterpants 2 years, 1 month ago

This is the most poorly reasoned argument of a position that I have ever seen on the LJWorld. This company should be embarrassed at what it has chosen to publish.

jayhawklawrence 2 years, 1 month ago

Scary to realize how many state legislators share these same values.

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