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by Puddleglum
November 5, 2009 at 4:12 p.m.
weapons bans coming soon?
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What's going on these days? I am all for guns, but do we really need high-capacity pistols? Or high capacity assault rifles? It seems that the only thing they are good at is not defending yourself from a bunch of bad guys, but killing a bunch of strangers. Is it that hard to reload your trusty 1911? And now this deal in ft. hood. Was it a u.s. citizen? how did he obtain these guns? was he an islamic terrorist? if we allow high-capacity magazines, shouldn't we allow government sponsored health care? if the swiss can do it, why can't we?
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Comments
puddleglum 3 years, 6 months ago
and why are flame-throwers illegal?
tbaker 3 years, 6 months ago
The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
Thomas Jefferson
75x55 3 years, 6 months ago
A military officer with a couple of pistols - how would "bans" have affected any outcome? Stupid knee-jerk emotionalism.
Relinquishing your rights and liberties never ensures your security, only your servitude.
BigPrune 3 years, 6 months ago
...and he is a Psychiatrist.
1029 3 years, 6 months ago
Well, one day when the taxman comes knocking at your door to rob you of your hard earned wages you will understand why we need high-capacity pistols and high-capacity assault rifles. It's coming soon with the Obama socialism and the health care. And if anyone got close enough to you for you to be able to tell that they were good or bad they probably would have already killed you anyway so you may as well kill them first while they're still a stranger to you. It only makes sense.
compmd 3 years, 6 months ago
Surprise! Military officers have access to guns!
"we might be the only first-rate country in the world that allows assault weapons and high-capacity pistols-but at least we have a government that doesn't supply us a shred of health care."
This doesn't make any sense. People pay (usually a lot) for their guns, the government doesn't give them away.
I pay 99c for each real HK 20rd mag for my HK91. Show me a low cap pistol mag that cheap.
Also, generally, weapons designed for higher capacity are not the most accurate. The uneducated seriously underestimate the difficulty in accurate marksmanship.
I haven't checked, but I'd be willing to bet flamethrowers fall under the NFA AOW provision.
Sorry, no ban is going to happen. People today can walk into a gun shop and buy AK47s, AR15s, and even .50BMG rifles. Heck, I'm a regular guy and I have an HK91, which is a huge high power battle rifle. Good luck enforcing a ban on people who have stuff like that. As the great Spartans once said when told to lay down their weapons, "come and get them."
TopJayhawk 3 years, 6 months ago
If a few others around would have had their weapon, it would not have mattered that he had high-capacity mags, Besides, if he is military, he had access to al of that stuff, and a civilian ban would not have done a thing.
bondmen 3 years, 6 months ago
It's human motivation one should look to and not an inanimate object if you seriously wish to get to the bottom of the whys and wherefores.
They say madmen become psychiatrists to figure themselves out. Well sometimes they don't and instead they become the inmates in charge of the asylum, and certainly this appears to be the case with Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan.
Yet the genesis of his insanity becoming reality seems to be Barack Hussein Obama's failure to keep his promise to pull US troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan. And in the back of Hasan's mind there is his holy Koran which tells true believers to kill the infidel (which is most of US). Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan is apparently a well schooled true believer.
Sadly there were signs aplenty of his approaching crackup. Words he spoke in anger and disgust and comments made on social internet sites. When will America wake up to the very real threat from the enemy within its own military ranks? How many more such incidents will it take?
snap_pop_no_crackle 3 years, 6 months ago
Fill in the blank " Don't f_ ed the trolls."
RoeDapple 3 years, 6 months ago
http://www.cracked.com/article_17016_7-items-you-wont-believe-are-actually-legal.html
"There are currently no federal laws governing or restricting the ownership of flame-throwing devices. Some states have laws restricting possession of flamethrowers, with violations only considered to be misdemeanors, but 40 states have absolutely no laws whatsoever concerning flamethrowers."
Only 1141 shopping days left until 12-21-2012 !!!
Rex Russell 3 years, 6 months ago
Tom, That last post,even as you try to mask it humor,tells me volumes about you. Get help.
drake 3 years, 6 months ago
Tom, I've commented to you before about the mini-30. There is no high cap mag for the mini-30 that will work. NONE!! Stop wasting your time trying to find one. Sell the rifle and buy a mini-14 instead. 30 round clips available that actually work.
puddleglum 3 years, 6 months ago
Tom, I have a metal 30-rd clip for mini-30 if you want it. cheap. and money back guarantee .
puddleglum 3 years, 6 months ago
Marion, a thompson? I bet you couldn't hit the side of a barn if you were inside the barn with that thing. I figured you would be the type for a collection of chauchats. avez-vous l'amusement avec moi encore?
puddleglum 3 years, 6 months ago
compmd: "Also, generally, weapons designed for higher capacity are not the most accurate. The uneducated seriously underestimate the difficulty in accurate marksmanship."
yeah generally, but one of the most accurate pistols I have is a dwm 1908 (1929) and it has a ''snail" 32-rd 9mm drum magazine. it is the most accurate pistol I own-except for target .22 high standard stuff.
puddleglum 3 years, 6 months ago
Marion, does it bother you knowing that there are muslims in the army that are more likely to be guided by their religious beliefs than their officers' orders?
puddleglum 3 years, 6 months ago
blue harley- 100 rd mag for your 1911?
sounds cool, but also extremely heavy. do you have to have a tripod for that rig?
Cappy 3 years, 6 months ago
Flamers, heh, heh. Got that right. Most gun "enthusiasts" are compensating for the inadequacies of the "weapon" god gave 'em.
$0.02
snap_pop_no_crackle 3 years, 6 months ago
Cappy's getting nominated to http://www.unnecessaryquotes.com/
Cappy 3 years, 6 months ago
"Sorry".
drake 3 years, 6 months ago
No problem Tom. I hated to get rid of mine too, but a gun that will not feed with a 30 round clip is not any better than a hammer for defense. My buddy that bought it also got about 12 different mags w/ it from all different manufacturers. He was sure that he could file or manipulate at least one to work in the gun. Nope.
Agnostick 3 years, 6 months ago
Attention all passengers: Please remember that express buses to CrazyBaseLand depart every hour, on the hour.
puddleglum 3 years, 6 months ago
drake-maybe your buddy's gun has a defect. I have never had any trouble what-so ever: except from cheap plastic mags that suck.
coolmom 3 years, 6 months ago
i hated our mini 30.
puddleglum 3 years, 6 months ago
so how many bullets did it take to take down hasan? 30-rds?
I love how nobody addresses the real issue here.
Agnostick 3 years, 6 months ago
puddleglum (Anonymous) says…
"I love how nobody addresses the real issue here."
Blame that on the jerkwad that started the thread. There's no real issue to be found in that spew of mindless rambling.
This event is not even 24 hours old... and yet the usual extremist suspects are already jockeying for political positions, trying to leverage this one way or another.
We don't even know who any of the victims are--their names haven't been released, because they're still trying to notify families!
If the author of this post had any sense of decency, they'd delete it and quit playing "Political Necrophilia."
Agnostick agnostick@excite.com
puddleglum 3 years, 6 months ago
agnostick, thankyou for your typical name-calling.
you sound like the only extremist around here. maybe you should go back to topeka? thankyou
puddleglum 3 years, 6 months ago
marion, how many rds does the c-clip hold? compensator or not, a .45 climbs like the federal defecit.
even a nice lil' MP38 climbs . but-how bout this:does it bother you knowing that there are muslims in the army that are more likely to be guided by their religious beliefs than their officers' orders?
remember_username 3 years, 6 months ago
Did Tom just go off the deep end at 8:46, or did I miss an earlier post?
75x55 3 years, 6 months ago
Sound like he took care of all of his people, whether they liked each other or not, Tom.
puddleglum 3 years, 6 months ago
faking it marion? only a novice would ever refer to a magazine as a clip.
I was using your words.
sounds like it is you who is faking it.
there are more Mp38's in the united stated than anywhere else in the world. hop on you tube and you can watch an old lady firing one in a wheel chair. yeah, they are small-compared to a MG-34. yeah, they are big-compared to a p-38 yeah, i have fired one. No, I don't own one. yeah, the muzzle climbs. no, not as much as a ppsh. yeah, I have fired one of those also. No, I don't own one.
are you still not going to answer my question? typical.
puddleglum 3 years, 6 months ago
top j sez: If a few others around would have had their weapon, it would not have mattered that he had high-capacity mags, Besides, if he is military, he had access to al of that stuff, and a civilian ban would not have done a thing.
this makes sense to me. and this is a serious question: If the military is allowed to have high-capacity magazines, shouldn't civlians?
RoeDapple 3 years, 6 months ago
Tom, Back i the early '80s a friend and I got a fantastic deal on 1000 20 round mags for AR style rifles. He kept 100, I kept (xxx), and we sold the rest. I sold off all 50 and 100 round mags I had, all Ruger mini's and haven't looked back. Had too many problems with 50's and 100's, and the Rugers were never my favorite. High capacity mags that fail can take the fun out of an afternoon of plinking, and I have enough 20's and 30's to melt down all (x) of my AR's without reloading a mag.
Just went out this morning to recheck the zero on the deer rifle. 308 Win. shot a .315 inch 5 shot, 100 yard group straight into the wind. Took out the Stag Arms Lefty and ran a couple of mags through it too. Spotted Bambi and Faline on the way home....
jimmyjms 3 years, 6 months ago
Firstly, if you're going to write a "blog," use some capitalization.
Secondly, this:
"If the military is allowed to have high-capacity magazines, shouldn't civlians?"
Why? Should civilians have access to tanks, F-14's, and chemical and biological weapons?
"I love how nobody addresses the real issue here."
Seems to me that the real issue is that events like this give lie to the idea that concealed carry would work. This is an idiotic blog.
hornhunter 3 years, 6 months ago
Tom, don't throw those old clips that don't work away. I heard the government will be have a Cash for Clip program soon.
puddleglum 3 years, 6 months ago
thanks Jimmyjms.
it took a long time. But Really, Why Must I Use Capitalization On My Blog? Isn't It Wasting More Natural Resources?
puddleglum 3 years, 6 months ago
and what's wrong with the public owning some f-14s? it would be great if the city commission closed down the T and bought some f-14's. sporadic flyovers above downtown-not to mention scaring off all the hustlers from Missouri. And we could protect douglas county from Obama.
BrianR 3 years, 6 months ago
"Japan would never invade the United States. We would find a rifle behind every blade of grass." -- Isoroku Yamamoto, Fleet Admiral and Commander-in-Chief of the Imperial Japanese Navy during World War II on why Japan would never attempt a conventional invasion of the U.S.
puddleglum 3 years, 6 months ago
japan did invade the united states-and they won. Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Lexus, Infinity, Sony, Mitsubishi (yep, same company that made the Zero fighter plane seen over pearl harbor). anybody know how well escalades are selling in Japan?
Guardian 3 years, 6 months ago
jimmyjms (Anonymous) says…
"Seems to me that the real issue is that events like this give lie to the idea that concealed carry would work."
Uh, statistics indicate it does. But let's not let the facts confuse the issue.
http://home.pacbell.net/rsdotson/statistics/concealedcarrystates.htm
MeAndFannieLou 3 years, 6 months ago
Wow - there is a lot of testosterone on this thread!
puddleglum 3 years, 6 months ago
i was hoping to get the most testosterone-coated blog ever, but I think its falling a little short.
thankyou for answering my question marion. now if you wanna go back to the personal attacks concerning clips and magazines and drums, let me know.
In the meantime, get your MP40 on, and go have some fun.
puddleglum 3 years, 6 months ago
musbhiorlo (Anonymous) says…
guns aren't the problem.
I agree. big capacity magazines are great-btw I have several 75-rd ak drums..but mostly 40-rd ak mags that's my thing.
kansasfaithful 3 years, 6 months ago
Be prepared to die for your cause.
uneekness 3 years, 6 months ago
you guys crack me up. I love how you think the government is shakin in it's boots over you guys, or that somehow you're keeping us all free or something. Wow. Unless you have the modern day equivalent of the French Navy backing you up, you're going to be about as successful as Daniel Shays, David Koresh and the Confederate States of America with your little armed insurrection. (Who was it who put down Shays and his Revolutionary War vet buddies' little rebellion? Oh yeah - revered founding father George Washington.)
If you could just let go of your fevered little super-patriot fantasies, you might notice that Democrats tend to favor gun control because the party's base is mostly urban, where senseless gun violence is a serious problem. Sorry, nobody is scheming to turn the country communist, held at bay only because they haven't found a way to "git yer guns."
You really want to change the government? Exercise your First Amendment rights. That's what really brings about change in this country. Or better yet, vote. Sometimes your guy wins, sometimes the other one does. But regardless, whoever wins gets to do things like overhaul healthcare, raise taxes, and yes, change gun laws. The winner's exercising of this power is LEGITIMATE, unless overturned in the courts on constitutional grounds (see - you go to court when you think the government has overstepped it's authority, not start shooting at them).
Somehow, without a single gun to back it up, the Supreme Court's rulings on these matters are respected and enforced, even when the executive branch is on the losing end. (Abraham Lincoln excepted.) This is how a CIVIL society works. Maybe someday you yahoos will choose to grow up and join it.
bc 3 years, 6 months ago
How do gun control laws keep criminals from getting guns?
compmd 3 years, 6 months ago
"When you find that you are wrong, you will come back on here and let everyone know that you are wrong, right?"
Wrong about what? I made no statement of fact regarding the NFA AOW provision.
"yeah generally, but one of the most accurate pistols I have is a dwm 1908 (1929) and it has a ''snail” 32-rd 9mm drum magazine."
Nice, puddle! There was much more creativity and better craftsmanship in older firearms I think. Perhaps I should have been more specific and said that the accuracy vs. capacity argument held true generally more for modern firearms.
uneekness 3 years, 6 months ago
You're right! Enforcement is impossible. While we're at it, enforcement of drug laws are impossible too - off the books! Oh yeah, and traffic laws as well - I'm constantly being passed by speeders who are not being pulled over. Get rid of those too! Any others while we're at it?
snap_pop_no_crackle 3 years, 6 months ago
"Exercise your First Amendment rights. That's what really brings about change in this country." Except when Dear Leader asks people to report "fishy" information so the dissenters can be identified.
puddleglum 3 years, 6 months ago
you go girlfriend.
allrighty then. the second amendment link with testosterone.
this is easy. the second amendment was written by men, who had testosterone flowing heavily at the time-despite their deployment of powdered wigs and fancy ruffled shirts. like all good stuff, this amendment was inked by men only.
there you go.
second amendment. written by men (not french) and broiling with testosterone. as it should be.
I have no problem with it.
puddleglum 3 years, 6 months ago
check this baby out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8hlj4...
compmd 3 years, 6 months ago
Marion says:
"Yep, no statement of fact, per se but you did express willingness to make a bet that you were right."
Willingness indeed, yet still, none was made. So now people have to apologize to you for things they never did? Who dropped a turd in your cheerios this morning? Take a pill, dude. Then go outside and enjoy the day.
RoeDapple 3 years, 6 months ago
http://rtsponderings.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/a-lawn.jpg
puddleglum 3 years, 6 months ago
roe D for the win!
Leslie Swearingen 3 years, 6 months ago
My God, Roe! Is that a gun in your pocket or are you really happy to see me? I was never like this before I started commenting on here. I blame this change on Roe, Ronda, Mel, and Multi. I am going to stay with my trusty bow and arrows. Low tech, but stealthy, very, very stealthy.
RoeDapple 3 years, 6 months ago
Well Irish, if Cappy is correct about the gun in my pocket, this is what I would make up the difference with....
Mythbusters can a machine gun chop off a tree MINIGUN!!! by gyurika2002
He obviously was one of those, "I'll show you mine if you show me yours" grade school types who was very disappointed with his version of "Show and Tell"
Leslie Swearingen 3 years, 6 months ago
Me also, what porch said. A lot more interesting to get firewood this way, though a trifle more expensive.
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