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Robin Hood or Marxist?

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How will Barack Obama handle the money he confiscates from the wealthy? Will he be more like Robin Hood and give it to the poor or more like Marx and make government more powerful and omnipotent than ever?

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Kyle Reed 5 years, 5 months ago

Too funny. About 4 posters answer the original questions asked and all the rest fail to miss a beat and post the exact same finger pointing, you're wrong and I'm right BS they post on any and all threads.

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witchfindergeneral 5 years, 5 months ago

Taxing the extremely wealthy to benefit the poor is "socialist." Taxing the middle and lower classes (while maintaining the Bush tax cuts) to benefit the extremely wealthy is necessary "capitalism." It's a wonder right-wingers can walk straight with the spin they're immersed in! To suggest Obama's tax plan is "socialist" while our government spends $700 on corrupt fat cats is dysphemistic, absurd, and hypocritical. Of course the Republicans, mired as they are in their blood-swamp of spin, will never acknowledge or admit this. They want the money-chain to flow from the bottom up; any hint at a reversal of this flow is tantamount to Marxist economics and/or treason.

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Pay_N_My_Way 5 years, 5 months ago

Between the poor and Marxist, my vote is Marxist. He will raise our taxes and make bigger government. Beware of the enemy from within.

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tangential_reasoners_anonymous 5 years, 5 months ago

logicso...Do I ==========================detectan emerging==========================analityin your posts==========================?,;-D

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Marion Lynn 5 years, 5 months ago

jhwk2008, logicsound:What is it about 25-2316a that you don't understand?"False swearing to an affidavit to obtain a ballot is a class B misdemeanor."The filing of a bogus registration constitutes "false swearing to an affidavit to obtain a ballot" Without question ACORN is guilty of violations of this stataute:"21-3711Chapter 21.--CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS PART II.--PROHIBITED CONDUCT Article 37.--CRIMES AGAINST PROPERTY 21-3711. Making false information. Making false information is making, generating, distributing or drawing, or causing to be made, generated, distributed or drawn, any written instrument, electronic data or entry in a book of account with knowledge that such information falsely states or represents some material matter or is not what it purports to be, and with intent to defraud, obstruct the detection of a theft or felony offense or induce official action. Making false information is a severity level 8, nonperson felony. "And this:"21-3710Chapter 21.--CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS PART II.--PROHIBITED CONDUCT Article 37.--CRIMES AGAINST PROPERTY 21-3710. Forgery. (a) Forgery is knowingly and with intent to defraud: (1) Making, altering or endorsing any written instrument in such manner that it purports to have been made, altered or endorsed by another person, either real or fictitious, and if a real person without the authority of such person; or altering any written instrument in such manner that it purports to have been made at another time or with different provisions without the authority of the maker thereof; or making, altering or endorsing any written instrument in such manner that it purports to have been made, altered or endorsed with the authority of one who did not give such authority."

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bobberboy 5 years, 5 months ago

Definately a Robin Hood. He's only a Marxist to the rich and the republicans.

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logicsound04 5 years, 5 months ago

"Yeah, so it must not be a crime to rob a gas station if there is no money in the till."--------------A completely nonsensical comparison.A better one would be asking if it's illegal to draw up a plan to rob a gas station. Last time I checked, it isn't.=========================="False impersonation of a voter. False impersonation of a voter is representing oneself as another and thereas voting or attempting to vote."------------------Did you read your own reference? Someone filling out a voter registration with a fake name does not constitute "attempting to vote".=========================="Voting without being qualified. Voting without being qualified is knowingly and willfully: (a) Voting or attempting to vote at any election when not a lawfully registered voter.(b) Voting or offering to vote more than once at the same election.(c) Inducing or aiding any person to vote more than once at the same election."--------------Again, please read your references. No one has attempted to vote, and registering a fake name is not the same as attempting to vote under said name.=========================="False swearing to an affidavit; penalty. False swearing to an affidavit to obtain a ballot is falsely swearing to an affidavit given to satisfy the requirements of subsection (a) or subsection (b) of K.S.A. 25-2316c.False swearing to an affidavit to obtain a ballot is a class B misdemeanor."-----------------Good lord. Not burning too bright? I'd say the lights are black holes right about now.First of all, this last item confirms what I said, that the perpetrators are the ACORN employees who are falsifying registrations to get paid, not the ACORN organization.Second, no one has attempted to obtain a ballot yet.

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jhwk2008 5 years, 5 months ago

Marion, did you read any of those statutes? ACORN isn't guilty of any of those.

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sfjayhawk 5 years, 6 months ago

My favorite is the bush fluffer that posts the Ann Coulter Goebbels link as if it is a legit source! Get a grip!Im still not sure why it is bad to be from Chicago. I can only assume that some people, like Mrs Palin and jimincountry believe that it is one of the un-American places.

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reverber 5 years, 6 months ago

So far as I know, none of these improperly registered "voters" has attempted to vote.Besides, it was all those neocons doing the registration, disguised as Acorn personnel. I know it's true (and should be taught in all public schools) because I BELIEVE it to be true. That makes it a scientific fact, don't ya know?

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Marion Lynn 5 years, 6 months ago

jhwk2008 (Anonymous) says: Wow, Marion. Your lights aren't burning too bright tonight, are they?""logicsound04 (Anonymous) says: Marion,That sure makes ACORN sound like a victim, not a perpetrator.It's not voter fraud unless some of those fake people show up at the polls to vote."Marion writes:Think so?If you cannot read below, have someone read it aloud to you!"25-2431Chapter 25.--ELECTIONS Article 24.--ELECTION CRIMES 25-2431. False impersonation of a voter. False impersonation of a voter is representing oneself as another and thereas voting or attempting to vote. False impersonation of a voter is a severity level 9, nonperson felony. History: L. 1974, ch. 157, § 25; L. 1993, ch. 291, § 214; July 1." "25-2416Chapter 25.--ELECTIONS Article 24.--ELECTION CRIMES 25-2416. Voting without being qualified. Voting without being qualified is knowingly and willfully: (a) Voting or attempting to vote at any election when not a lawfully registered voter. (b) Voting or offering to vote more than once at the same election. (c) Inducing or aiding any person to vote more than once at the same election. Voting without being qualified is a class A misdemeanor. History: L. 1974, ch. 157, § 10; July 1." "25-2316aChapter 25.--ELECTIONS Article 23.--REGISTRATION OF VOTERS 25-2316a. False swearing to an affidavit; penalty. False swearing to an affidavit to obtain a ballot is falsely swearing to an affidavit given to satisfy the requirements of subsection (a) or subsection (b) of K.S.A. 25-2316c. False swearing to an affidavit to obtain a ballot is a class B misdemeanor. History: L. 1973, ch. 166, § 2; L. 1977, ch. 138, § 1; July 1."

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jhwk2008 5 years, 6 months ago

Wow, Marion. Your lights aren't burning too bright tonight, are they?

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Marion Lynn 5 years, 6 months ago

logicsound04 (Anonymous) says: Marion,That sure makes ACORN sound like a victim, not a perpetrator.It's not voter fraud unless some of those fake people show up at the polls to vote."Marion writes:Yeah, so it must not be a crime to rob a gas station if there is no money in the till.

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logicsound04 5 years, 6 months ago

Marion,That sure makes ACORN sound like a victim, not a perpetrator.It's not voter fraud unless some of those fake people show up at the polls to vote.

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Marion Lynn 5 years, 6 months ago

dandelion (Anonymous) says: Marion,You're voting for McSame, and he's voted against veteran's benefits. And I've heard lots of talk about who people who can't take care of themselves and get disability are just a bunch of lazy bums. Maybe you aren't as big on that, but I'm tired of hearing all of you talk down people who don't make as much money as you. It's snobbish, disgusting. I'm happy that you're life has been easy, but you could show a little humanity to those who have hardships. Not all poor people are drunks."Marion writes:Where are the links to the posts you quite falsely accused me of making?Post the links or admit that you lied!

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dandelion 5 years, 6 months ago

Marion,You're voting for McSame, and he's voted against veteran's benefits. And I've heard lots of talk about who people who can't take care of themselves and get disability are just a bunch of lazy bums. Maybe you aren't as big on that, but I'm tired of hearing all of you talk down people who don't make as much money as you. It's snobbish, disgusting. I'm happy that you're life has been easy, but you could show a little humanity to those who have hardships. Not all poor people are drunks.

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macon47 5 years, 6 months ago

can robin hood as a muslim be a socialistor can robin hood as a socialist be a muslim?

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Marion Lynn 5 years, 6 months ago

ACORN outed by one of its own members!http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/22/voter.fraud/index.htmlFrom the citation:"Clifton Mitchell helped register nearly 2,000 voters for the community group ACORN. But not one of them actually existed.""We came up with the idea: Let's make fraudulent cards. I tell my crew, 'I don't care how you get 'em, just get 'em,' " Mitchell recalled.""ACORN said it has registered well more than 1 million voters, most of them Democrats."

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jimincountry 5 years, 6 months ago

Obama will find the most deserving and spend among ACORN!

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jaywalker 5 years, 6 months ago

Just tryin' to stir the pot, jonas. I've received that quote from numerous people over the last four months, I don't even know who Tyler is.

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jonas_opines 5 years, 6 months ago

Hmmm. . . and yet, it appears to remain inevitable?

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jaywalker 5 years, 6 months ago

"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship." Alexander Tyler in response to the fall of the Athenian Republic in 1787

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RogueThrill 5 years, 6 months ago

Read more about Tom Shewmon here:http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2008/sep/22:"Obama is not going to bend over backwards for whites. He will tax the living daylights out of us and do any and all possible to ratchet us down and give total access, power and our money to the blacks.""Will he be high-fiving at the inaugeration? Will he lose the "white" voice inflection? Will Michelle really tell us what she thinks about whites? Maybe.""I think once this fraud, Obama, were to be installed in the whitehouse, as the months and years ensued, it would make the nonsense about GWB seem trivial and Obama would incite a mass revolt. He would probably then use this domestic military style force he talks of to keep people off the streets and under his idea of control. I would guess this force would be trolling mostly white burbs and rural areas (where all the ignorant bigots live). He'd leave the inner cities up to the traditional police force who would do nothing about those war zones then like they do now. Scary, scary proposition-an Obama presidency. If American asks for it and gets it, I'll have not one iota of sympathy for anyone once I'm boarding that jet."

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jimincountry 5 years, 6 months ago

Seems they are paid for late blog-hours!

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jimincountry 5 years, 6 months ago

PS..it will be interesting to see the Obama-squad players who seem ready these days to react to anti-Obama posts..............suppose they are only paid for daylight hours or by the blog!? Did not I read that there was plenty of money for this kind of thing?

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sfjayhawk 5 years, 6 months ago

jimincountry:Sounds like chicago is one of those un-American places that you and Palin believe in. What other places are un- American in your eyes besides Chicago, Harvard and Columbia? Should be a very interesting list.

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Mike Blur 5 years, 6 months ago

So what, blah blah blah, Barry Obama palled around with Ayers when he was 8 and Ayers was 40. (Like we believe that.)Truth is, Al-Qaeda supporters have endorsed the McCain/Palin ticket.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/johnmccain/3238578/John-McCain-endorsed-by-al-Qaeda-supporters.htmlWhat's more, these "real life" terr'ists are willing to attack the USA if it means a McCain victory in two weeks.

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tangential_reasoners_anonymous 5 years, 6 months ago

"Robin Hood or Marxist? How will Barack Obama handle the money he confiscates from the wealthy? Will he be more like Robin Hood and give it to the poor or more like Marx and make government more powerful and omnipotent than ever?"Three questions.No answers.Fewer clues.'nuff said.

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jimincountry 5 years, 6 months ago

I think Obama is the personification of his own words that he used around the time when he was caught "borrowing" another's sayings.........."Words just words" as I still can hear him saying as he expounded in his best community-organizing oratory. And that's how phenomenal Obama is : He has community-organized himself from southside-Chicago-community activist with ties to ACORN quite possibly into the presidency of the USA................with, I'd bet, the same style and words he's used since he progressive-ized himself from the leftist Columbia University, to the south Chicago community organizer, to the Harvard University liberals, and to his "new beginnings" as lawyer for ACORN and collaborator with Ayers the terrorist-turned-radical-college "education" professor in Chicago,then as an Illinois senator, then as a senator in the federal government of the USA.The liberal media has never fully INVESTIGATED this man and probably won't until after the election but somebody needs to start following the money behind this guy!.....at least to the extent they've gone after Palin or or Cindy McCain.And finally, Obama is in essence a slick Chicago politician.........he even out-slicks Bill Clinton but Clinton had no sinister collaborations that treatened undermining the government of the USA.

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jimincountry 5 years, 6 months ago

Obama is an elected official of the south Chicago people he organized to vote for him with the help of ACORN and the students of Wm Ayers the radical/marxist professor who is teaching teachers to teach marxism to Chicao area young people.

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RonBurgandy 5 years, 6 months ago

Obama's plan is exactly what should happen. Taxes should be cut for the people that need it, and should be raised for the people that don't. I am not even sure if Obama is raising taxes for the wealthy or just repealling the pointless Bush tax cuts. Either way, I don't feel sorry for them at all. Anyone making over $250k lives just fine.

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jonas_opines 5 years, 6 months ago

Oh, found it. It's from McCain himself.http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aFHGR4eh9A.4&refer=homeBrought up from time to time by bloggers before this, apparently.

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jonas 5 years, 6 months ago

I wonder which talking head this Chicago talking point came from initially. Does anybody know?

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sfjayhawk 5 years, 6 months ago

jimincountryWhat is wrong with Chicago? Is it one of the places that is not patriotic enough for you and Mrs Palin? And and FYI, Mr Obama was never an elected official for the City of Chicago.

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jimincountry 5 years, 6 months ago

Obama is a Chicago politician parading as Robin Hood!..................Key word.........."CHICAGO".......why does anybody want a Chicago politician running the USA!??

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LiberalDude 5 years, 6 months ago

Bush/McCain give all the money to the rich lobbyists and CEO's.Obama will spread the wealth and help the lower and middle class. We need it!

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macon47 5 years, 6 months ago

can a muslim be a socialistor can a socialist be a muslim?

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Marion Lynn 5 years, 6 months ago

dandelion (Anonymous) says: sfjayhawk,Don't you know that Tom and Marion could care less about the soldiers coming home? They figure they can get a job. Injured?, make them buy their own health insurance. They shouldn't have gotten injured. These "rugged individuals", like Marion and Tommy boy have not sympathy for people with disabilities. They would just as soon they go away and die. If you can't take care of yourself, just die."Marion writes:dandelion, you are a seventy-five-carat-gold-plated-liar!I have made NO such statements!You feeble-minded attempt at spin has been noted and taken for what it is:Utter stuff and nonsense; Psueudo-liberal/Neo-socialist propaganda!I challenge you to show post made by myslef on this forum or any other in which I have made such statements as to which you allude!

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dandelion 5 years, 6 months ago

sfjayhawk,Don't you know that Tom and Marion could care less about the soldiers coming home? They figure they can get a job. Injured?, make them buy their own health insurance. They shouldn't have gotten injured. These "rugged individuals", like Marion and Tommy boy have not sympathy for people with disabilities. They would just as soon they go away and die. If you can't take care of yourself, just die.

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dandelion 5 years, 6 months ago

Well, he could be like Bush, and take money from the middle class tax payers, and give it to the rich bankers. How stupid can you get. It's just distributing it up not down. Banks on welfare. Welfare is welfare. How is this not distribution of wealth? How can you defend Bush's bail out? He's your hero. How do you rationalize this as not socialism? I'm waiting? I would prefer my taxes go to the poor, and we confiscate all the houses of the lazy, deatbeat executives and their bank accounts to pay for the bailout.

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sfjayhawk 5 years, 6 months ago

I guessing that a lot of money will need to be spent on the aging and dangerous infrastructure across america. Im also guessing that Obama will want to provide the very best care for our veterans that he will be bringing home from Iraq. I have heard him speak about the poor educational system and guess he will spend some there, and will also help thousands more get to college. I object to none of these plans.

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senegal66025 5 years, 6 months ago

Obama is what the communist call a "usefull idiot." He might be a socialist, he is no Marxist nor is he a communist. However if you know anything about Marxism you know that if and when they ever get control the Obama's of the world are the first people they get rid of.

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Marion Lynn 5 years, 6 months ago

Comrade Barack Hussein Robin Hood!Men in tights!

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fandango12 5 years, 6 months ago

Good question. First, I don't quite believe that $250,000 a year labels anyone wealthy. But to answer your question, like extreme liberals are wont to do it will be spent on unnecessary entitlements. A shame really since I do believe entitlements are a form of enabling. Example: I have a brother who does not work. Who supports him? My mother; pays his rent, buys his groceries, bought him a care and so on. This enables my brother to be irresponsible... 'Nough said. Those are my thoughts.

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