"Why Liberals Hate Sarah Palin" by Marion / LJWorld.com

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Why Liberals Hate Sarah Palin

They don't like Sarah Palin because she did not abort her Down's Syndrome child.They wanted a powerful woman on the ticket and they got one, only not the kind that they had hoped for and on the "wrong" ticket, at that! Dreaming of a bra-burning "womyn", they instead got an intelligent, beautiful woman, dedicated to Motherhood; a woman who has been a mover and shaker in the politics of her home state; a woman who doesn't wear her hair in dreads and who dresses stylishly, in a manner suiting her position in life and politics.They got a woman who has a value system and is not afraid to talk about it, instead of a womyn who peers out from behind John Lennon glasses and in Moonie-eyed fashion says, "I'm OK, you're OK!".They got a woman who supports her family through the proverbial thick and thin.They got a woman whose smile is genuine and not the arrogant smirk of Hillary.The Pseudo-liberal/Neo-socialists got a woman...a woman who scares them to death and they just can't handle it.

September 5, 2008

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6 September 2008
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teachandlearn (Anonymous) says…

It is offensive that you think that because someone is a democrat that they would what a special needs child aborted! I am a mother of three, a special education teacher, and a life long democrat. It is funny how republicans say candidates' families should be private, but you keep bringing it up. But since you did bring it up, I will comment on it. As a special education teacher and as a mother I cannot imagine taking on a job that requires leaving your family for extended periods of time. Children with special needs require a lot of attention. Sure she can pay someone to do that, but that does not replace a mother. I also cannot understand why she would put her seventeen year old pregnant daughter in the position she has. So much for family values. So much for putting your family first!
6 September 2008
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jonas_opines (Anonymous) says…

Good start Marion. That's at least as dumb as Epp's silly narratives.
6 September 2008
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dandelion (Anonymous) says…

Democrats don't hate Sarah Palin, they just think she's a politician who says one thing and does another. Is it true that when she came in as mayor the town had a balanced budget, then when she left it was 22 million in debt? I don't even think Lawrence has a debt like that, and it's much bigger. How can she call herself a fiscal conservative? Can you Republicans please stop talking about Palin's family and focus on the issues?
6 September 2008
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jaywalker (Anonymous) says…

Yo, jonas! Where ya been? Been interested to hear how it's going up on the hill. Got comfortable yet? Teaching at KU all you thought it would be?
6 September 2008
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TheSychophant (Anonymous) says…

Levi Johnston is the father of Bristol Palin's baby. The 17-year-old hockey player at Burchell High School in Wasilla, Alaska, is by all accounts soon to be married to the Republican vice presidential candidate's daughter, but all may not be well. His MySpace page revealed juicy details about his outlook on life before he made it private. In it, he admits, “I'm a f**kin' redneck who likes to snowboard and ride dirt bikes. But I live to play hockey. I like to go camping and hang out with the boys, do some fishing, shoot some sh*t and just f**kin' chillin' I guess. Ya f*ck with me I'll kick ass.”After all the publicity, Levi Johnston's MySpace was redacted, revealing no evidence of his previous profanity laden macho posturing. Although he admits that he is in a relationship, he still says that he wants to use MySpace “for networking or for dating.” Moreover, on the subject of possible children, he left the message, “Love kids, but not for me.” Most devastatingly, in a sharp contrast to the Palin family's conservative views, Levi instead posts that he is an agnostic.The Levi Johnston-Bristol Palin marriage-to-be may yet not be, despite assurances from the Palin campaign. Their baby is due in four more months so the nuptials can't be delayed much longer.So, what's the big deal, you ask: (1) The McCain Campaign's abject failure to discover the existence of this page, and 86 it before publically identifying Palin as running mate. In Hollywood, secret agents permanently delete files of their “assets” and other damning information, with such extreme prejudice, it's like they never existed. Political campaigns presumably have a similar capacity, especially when it comes to myspace pages. I mean, how many people have both the duimb luck and foresight to download Levi's utterly pedestrian and unremarkable page before last week's runaway train was both christened and irreversibly derailed railed. . Even an internet neophyte is cognizant of Myspace's popularity. Surely, all of us who religiously read our local newspaper's on-line edition recall the several fatal victims of crime and car wrecks whose myspace link is invariably posted in the comments section within a hour or two after their identities are publically revealed. The same for notorious local scofflaws.
6 September 2008
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TheSychophant (Anonymous) says…

(continued) Rank amateurs!!! Base and primitive neophytes!!!! No? And the same fu*k-ups will be staffing the White House and other major governmental entities and agencies, in important supervisory roles, no less, should McCain win. Remember Monica Goulding? Remember “You're doing a great job, Brownie?” (2) While it is sometimes dangerous, presumptuous and unfair to postulate–without secret agent truth serum—the theoretically unknown and unknowable intent and motivations racing through the minds of others, you can't help but think this: Hmmm, typical 17 year old Red Neck Boy: Loves to cuss, play sports, down a few brews, arm wrestle, fight, and get a little trim. But marriage and kids? No way, no how. So who is perpetrating and perpetuating this distinctly plausible, possible, probable and arguable lie that Bristol and Levi are deeply in love, and want to live happily ever after?. Shot gun wedding? Nah, too crude. If Sarah is anything, she's a cunning playa. Swiss bank account wedding, conveniently cancelledcan you hear “Church Lady”—after the election, and thereafter eternally irrelevant? Four years later, its old news. Remember Monica the Maydela? The Cigar? The Dress? Old hat, except for, perhaps the most acerbic and dog-loyal repubs. Speculation? Yes. But, honestly, I cannot categorically conclude “no way, no how.” . How bout we just give the voters the uncontroverted facts, and let them decide? .
6 September 2008
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Logan72 (Alia Ahmed) says…

teachandlearn,You point out that some (I'm not going to paint all Republicans with the broad brush that the author of this blog does to Democrats) Republicans complain about the focus on Palin's family, but continue to bring it up if it suits there agenda. Cal Thomas' op-ed piece yesterday did the same thing. Then there is Bill O'Reilly calling the parents of Brittany Spears “pinheads” because their younger daughter was pregnant (and going to marry the father, I believe) yet coming to the Palins' defense.

6 September 2008
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bearded_gnome (Anonymous) says…

teachandlearn,the reason for the ref that dems wish Sarah had aborted her downs syndrome child are that multiple times, probably more than ten in the past week, reports and pundits, feminist leaders, have commented that she shouldn't take on the VP, or the campaign, having a downs syndrome child. some have walked right up to the edge of actually saying, but not quite, that she'd be better off if she'd aborted him! some have questioned her getting an amnio test, that that indicates she was considering an abortion…wishful thinkingalso sexist, they didn't question “jawbone Joe” when he was widowed with his kids!
6 September 2008
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jonas_opines (Anonymous) says…

jaywalker: I've been enjoying my time in class greatly, and I'm more or less comfortable with what I'm doing at this point. But it's an insane amount of work right now, with three separate classes for about 65 total students, having to craft the lesson plans, the presentation slides, assignments, reading selections, etc. etc. on top of my own classes, I don't have much in the way of time for anything else. Luckily, once you build things they're built, so my life should be substantially easier next semester, and I only teach until October, so I just have to stay on top of things until then. But good, regardless, the position is a pretty natural fit for me, as I hoped/expected it would be. Too busy, though, to post much. Once you come upon a 175 post thread that you've missed from the start, it's too tiresome and time consuming to hunt down a good place to get in. (and, really, they're almost all the same anyway, so there'll be more chances)
6 September 2008
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JohnBrown (Anonymous) says…

My problem with Sarah is I don't know, and can't tell, when she's telling the truth and when she's spinning some more Alaskan yarn.Take the Alaskan State's luxury jet. Did she sell it on e-Bay or not? Did she sell it for a profit or a loss? Or the Bridge to Nowhere: was she for it before she was against it? Or was she always against it? Did she take the earmark money and just spend it on something else, or did she return that money to the US taxpayers? What does she REALLY think about the Iraqi war, is it sound national policy or part of “God's war”? Did she really do all that Canadian pipeline negotiations or was it in the works before she became gov and she just finished it up? And why was she at this year's Alaskan Independent Party's convention if she believes in putting 'country first'? And what does “putting country first” and “service” mean to her if she's willing to demean the tens of thousands of people who participate in community service by helping economically displaced people? Finally, I'd like to hear her opinions on “choice” or “right to life”. Is she really against a woman's right to choose if she's pregnant from a rape? Is she really FOR a would-be rapist's right to choose the mother of his offspring?I know it's cold in Alaska a lot of the time, but down here in the lower 48, we need less yarn spinning and more straight talk. When will she give us that?
6 September 2008
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beatrice (Anonymous) says…

Having Marion Lynn tell us why liberals do anything, let alone why we “hate” Governor Palin is asinine. Suggesting it is because she has children is truly ridiculous. Although the family is supposedly off limits, he uses the infant's disability in a shameless assault to promote his hate against liberals and those who don't think just like him. Giving this an actual forum, rather than his usual comments, is a new low for the LJWorld (although it is right on par for Marion).I'm sure any liberals with children who suffer from Downs will be particularly insulted by such a ridiculous and arrogant piece of hateful propaganda wrapped up as an “editorial.” Marion hates liberals, and he routinely refers to Democrats as “demonrats.” His attempts to demonize virtually half of our population speaks to who truly hates others around here. Shame on you LJWorld for allowing such trash to be given a forum. What next, are you going to allow White Supremacists a voice to tell us what is wrong with liberals in America too?
6 September 2008
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Boeing (Anonymous) says…

wow…I'm pro McCain-Palin and I hated reading this…sorry to all those who think we are all this empty/narrow minded.
6 September 2008
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teachandlearn (Anonymous) says…

Joe Biden took the train home each every day he was in Wahington to be home with kids! I am all for a woman leading our country, but I find it questionable that she is running a campaign on family values. My family values do not include airing my seventeen year's old pregnancy and leaving someone else to take care of my 4 month old child with special needs. By the way, I have a typically developing 4 month old and hate to leave him while I am at work for 8 hours.
6 September 2008
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kansas778 (Anonymous) says…

The libs hate Palin for the same reason the hate Michael Steele. They are racists and sexists. They think they aren't, that it's OK because they are “progressive,” but that really only makes it much worse. You see Palin is a traitor. Only old white rich men are supposed to be Republicans. A woman should know her place, and that is in the democratic party.
6 September 2008
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jimincountry (Anonymous) says…

I hope she doesn't ever get all gushy and say, “You Go Girl” or gawd forbid someone says that to her.

6 September 2008
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JohnBrown (Anonymous) says…

I'd just like to know when she's telling the truth.
6 September 2008
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dandelion (Anonymous) says…

Better question: Why are Republicans so afraid to discuss her “experience” as mayor of a little town? 22 million in debt for a small town? Shouldn't you be labeling her a “tax and spend liberal”? Oh, yes, the new conservatives are “lower taxes and spend even more”, like Bushie boy. Is that the newspeak for “fiscal conservative”?
6 September 2008
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Godot (Anonymous) says…

Marion, did you know this was online today?Why They Hate Her Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left. by Jeffrey Bell [snip]”…..the single most important narrative holding the left together in today's politics and culture is the one offered—often with little or no dissent—by adversarial feminism. The premise of this narrative is that for women to achieve dignity and self-fulfillment in modern society, they must distance themselves, not necessarily from men or marriage or childbearing, but from the kind of marriage in which a mother's temptation to be with and enjoy several children becomes a synonym for holding women back and cheating them out of professional success.On August 29, in the immediate aftermath of the announcement by the McCain campaign, all that was widely known of the governor of Alaska was that she was married with five children, the last one of whom had been carried to term with Down syndrome, and that she was pro-life. No one knew that her oldest daughter was pregnant. No one knew much about what she had done as governor or in her previous career. No one knew how she had been drawn into politics, or that her sister had had a reckless husband and a contentious divorce. Above all, with the possible exception of John McCain, no one knew that Sarah Palin was both a married mother of five and a brilliant political talent with a chance not just to change the dynamics of the 2008 election but to rise to the top level of American politics, whatever happens this year.The simple fact of her being a pro-life married mother of five with a thriving political career was—before anything else about her was known—enough for the left and its outliers to target her for destruction. She could not be allowed to contradict symbolically one of the central narratives of the left. How galling it will be to Sarah Palin's many new enemies if she survives this assault and prevails. If she does, her success may be an important moment in the struggle to shape not just America's politics but its culture.Jeffrey Bell, author of Populism and Elitism: Politics in the Age of Equality (1992), is completing work on Social Conservatism: The Movement That Polarized American Politics.”http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/534rlysq.asp
6 September 2008
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JohnBrown (Anonymous) says…

Can anyone tell me when she's telling the truth?
6 September 2008
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Godot (Anonymous) says…

Here is another nugget from Bell's article:”The most striking thing in purely political terms about this hurricane of elite rage is the built-in likelihood that it will backfire. It's not simply that it is highly capable of generating sympathy for Palin among puzzled undecided voters and of infuriating and motivating a previously placid GOP base, neither of which is in the interest of the Obama-Biden campaign. It also created an opening for Palin herself to look calm, composed, competent, and funny in response. In her acceptance speech last Wednesday night, anyone could see the poise and skill that undoubtedly attracted McCain's attention months ago, when few others were even aware that he was looking. But it was precisely the venom of the left's assault that heightened the drama and made it a riveting television event. Palin benefited from her ability to project full awareness of the volume and relentlessness of the attacks without showing a scintilla of resentment or self-pity.This is a rare talent, one shared by Franklin D. Roosevelt and Ronald Reagan. For this quality to have even a chance to develop, there must be something real to serve as an emotional backdrop: disproportionate, crazy-seeming rage by one's political enemies. Roosevelt was on his party's national ticket five times and Reagan sought the presidency four times. Each became governor of what at the time was the nation's most populous state. It took Roosevelt and Reagan decades of national prominence and pitched ideological combat to achieve the gift of enemies like these. Yet the American left awarded Sarah Palin this gift seemingly within a microsecond of her appearance on the national stage in Dayton, Ohio.”
6 September 2008
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TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…

Good blog, Marion. The hypocrisy of liberals continues to rear it's head in full daylight. For a freakish election year, what else can you say. I see Biden practically screaming at audiences……I hope Palin makes him snap in the debate……her cool will prevail.
6 September 2008
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jumpin_catfish (Anonymous) says…

If you don't think many lefty loonie liberals hate Palin, you should just read a few of their blogs but I think the same could be said of right wing wacko neocons blogs. If we continue to over torque we may blow the engine folks.
6 September 2008
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TheSychophant (Anonymous) says…

Let's be careful comparing either candiate to FDR. Seventy-two years ago, in his renomination acceptance speech at the Democratic convention in Philadelphia (before more than 100,000 people gathered in Franklin Field), Franklin D. Roosevelt rose above the boiler-plate rhetoric of political speeches and spoke of his generation's “rendezvous with destiny.”He warned of the perils to the nation of economic inequality. “Liberty,” he said, “requires opportunity to make a living, a living decent according to the standard of the time, a living which gives man not only enough to live by, but something to live for.”Roosevelt's words echo across the decades because they resonate with the very meaning of America, a meaning that is so much deeper than what our politics have become. “We are fighting,” he told his audience, “to save a great and precious form of government, for ourselves and for the world.”

6 September 2008
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dandelion (Anonymous) says…

Any of you righties going to answer John Brown's questions? Or are you going to avoid, avoid as usual. When you can't defend her record, you attack. Why not discuss her record as mayor? Are you afraid of the facts. Show me the budget records of this little town before she started and after. Scared yet?
6 September 2008
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JohnBrown (Anonymous) says…

All I want to to know is did she do the the things she said she did? Did she sell the jet on eBay or not? Did she take the money for the Bridge to Nowhere but not build it? Did she leave her job as Mayor with the town in the red or the black? Why was she at the Alaskan Separatists Party meeting this year. Does she really believe the Iraqi war is “God's war”, as she said a few months ago?How can I tell when Sarah Palin is telling the truth?There is a lot of yammering, or kerpuffle, going on this board, but not much straight talk. Why?
6 September 2008
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Godot (Anonymous) says: Marion, did you know this was online today?”Marion writes:No but only goes to show you that GMTA!
6 September 2008
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situveux1 (Anonymous) says…

Holy crap Marion. You didn't just hit the nail on the head, you pushed the nail through the wall.
6 September 2008
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

situveux1 (Anonymous) says: Holy crap Marion. You didn't just hit the nail on the head, you pushed the nail through the wall.”Marion writes:Thanks, situveux1!Your comment does a lot to offset the barrage of messages like these I am receiving through the LJW messaging system:”Hello,The user Col_Bud_Holland sent the following message to you via LJWorld.com:==============================f**k your mother a**hole==============================Please do not reply to this e-mail message. To send Col_Bud_Holland a response, visit this Web page:http://www2.ljworld.com/users/Col_Bud_Holland/contact/+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++And this one:”Hello,The user Col_Bud_Holland sent the following message to you via LJWorld.com:==============================let me post on yer riversh**y a**holei hope obama wins just to rub it in to f**ktards like you.==============================Please do not reply to this e-mail message. To send Col_Bud_Holland a response, visit this Web page:http://www2.ljworld.com/users/Col_Bud_Holland/contact/++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++I do so love it when the Left shows its true hateful nature!
6 September 2008
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JohnBrown (Anonymous) says…

it seems no one supporting Palin can tell me when she's telling the truth and when she's just spinning more Alaskan yarn. eBay? Bridge to Nowhere? “God's war”? Town in the black? ….anyone?
6 September 2008
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RalphReed (Ralph Reed) says…

dandelion (Anonymous) writes: “Any of you righties going to answer John Brown's questions? Or are you going to avoid, avoid as usual. When you can't defend her record, you attack. “*****I also want to know if John Brown's question will be answered. Regarding the rest of your comment, my experience is that this is a standard tactic.*************Col_Bud_Holland (Anonymous) writes: “Marian is a …”*****Bud, don't feed him, please.*************kansas778 (Anonymous) writes: “The libs hate Palin for the same reason the hate Michael Steele. They are racists and sexists. They …”*****You're painting with a broad brush again K778. I think that's called a gross generalization.*************I don't hate Palin, I don't know her. All I know is what I read in numerous journals, and hear on CNN and FOX. (Yes, I listen to both. The truth is somewhere in the middle.)I can tell you my gut feeling. I do not trust her. I don't know why, but there's something just not right. She's very good at playing the political game, she couldn't have gotten to where she is if she weren't. But, if half the things said on line are true, then I can't trust her. Also, I fear for our country should something happen to McCain; again, just a gut feeling that something's not right.****************I'm me. Who are you behind your hood of anonymity?
6 September 2008
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powershopper (Anonymous) says…

JohnBrown - I don't think you are going to get a straight answer. Marion, et. al. know the answers but realize the implications of admitting they do are, to say the least, damaging to their platform.Marion — Admittedly, sometimes I enjoy your comments on these threads. Albeit sometimes rediculous, sometimes they are relevant. This time around, however, you really don't come off much better than Col_Bud_Hollands comments above. His emails to you are certainly inappropriate but definitely not indicative of every Democrat — If he even is a democrat.

6 September 2008
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beatrice (Anonymous) says…

What a sexist piece of crap, to say the least!Marion loves Palin only because she believes in the issues he stands for. If she didn't, he would try to tear her appart by using every possible sexist insult, exactly like those he leveled against the “womyn” he doesn't agree with. You see, in Marion's world, if you aren't a conservative who is against rape even in cases of rape and incest then you are a “feminazi,” a term he has thrown at me on more than one occassion. “They got a woman who has a value system and is not afraid to talk about it, instead of a womyn who peers out from behind John Lennon glasses and in Moonie-eyed fashion says, “I'm OK, you're OK!”. ” — What the hell does that mean? Who exactly fit that description among Democrats this year? Nobody. It is a made up persona to fit the “type” of people he hates. “a woman who doesn't wear her hair in dreads and who dresses stylishly” — well, I think we all know what he means when he slams women who wear their hair in dreads, now don't we. Yep, Marion makes it clear he hates people with dreads. Unbelievable that the LJWorld would allow such blatantly offensive garbage to be given the time of day. Obama / Biden!
6 September 2008
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ASBESTOS (Anonymous) says…

Beatrice posted:”Marion loves Palin only because she believes in the issues he stands for.”Unh, DUH!! That is what the two party sysstem does, the same thing can and is said by Obama and McCain Supporters.This shows your pedestrian, low level, narrow Kansas perspective, that only used MoveOn and DailyKos talking points. Your view is like the leberal MSM which has been busted bigger than anything.www.newsbusters.comPlease go there, and get the real story.Or don't and continue life with your head stuck in your excretory orifice.
6 September 2008
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Pywacket (Anonymous) says…

This is hysterical! I knew before clicking on the link that anything with the title of, “Why liberals hate……” would be written by a reactionary conservative, but this is even better than I expected. Marion, of all people! Since Marion thinks he can speak for liberals, I'll take a shot at speaking for Marion.Why Marion Loves Sarah PalinSarah, like Marion, is adept at manipulating the truth and leaving out details that might reveal her real actions and motives. She, like Marion, likes to talk tough and wave guns around, but hasn't a clue how to achieve anything that can't be grabbed by firepower, bluster, or dirty politics. She's vindictive and vengeful toward anyone who stands in her way and distorts and inflates her “accomplishments,” walking all over those who were trusting or naive enough to hand her the reins of power.Notably, Sarah, unlike any real woman in Marion's life, is too remote to ever be anything but a Fantasy Woman to him: she will never reject him outright, laugh in his face, argue with any of his crackpot ideas or pronouncements, file a restraining order against him, or rearrange her own life to get away from the trainwreck of his.In addition, Sarah is a hero of hypocrites everywhere: what her little knocked-up teen does about pregnancy is “her decision”; what other, less-well-to-do teens do about theirs should (in Sarah's smug view) be the decision of the federal government—even if that teen's pregnancy is the result of rape and/or incest. (The rates of which, by the way, are higher in Alaska than in any other state.) Nothing like goose-stepping over the rights of the already oppressed. Where have we seen that before…? Oh, yeah…. In Marion's view, what's not to like?
6 September 2008
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Boston_Corbett (Anonymous) says…

Marion: seeing you post those private emails reminds me of all the vulgar and threatening ones various ones of us have received from Cool - Coltrane.Except when some people have posted them here like you, the LJW removes them. What gives with that?
6 September 2008
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

And that Great Spokesman for the Left continues his messaging:”Hello,The user Col_Bud_Holland sent the following message to you via LJWorld.com:==============================f**k you and ALL the “right” may you all die painful shi*y deaths.==============================Please do not reply to this e-mail message. To send Col_Bud_Holland a response, visit this Web page:http://www2.ljworld.com/users/Col_Bud_Holland/contact/+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++As a representative of the Left, Col_Bud, you are doing just fine in showing us more about the true loving character of the Left!(Notice please, that I did not mention that peculiar sub-species of Liberal, the Democrat.)
6 September 2008
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beatrice (Anonymous) says…

Asbestos, you miss the point. Marion is making a claim that others hate Palin, when in fact it is very clear that Marion is the one who hates others. Most of us who disagree with someone don't actually hate the other person. Marion makes it clear that he does through his descriptions of imagined liberal women. And two things to make clear — I have never visited the website of moveon or dailykos. Not even once. I speak for myself. I also don't live in Kansas, but nice putdown of your fellow Kansans there, bub.
6 September 2008
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BigPrune (Anonymous) says…

Let's talk about the polls. After Palin & McCain and the RNC, there is zero bounce? No way in hell could this be true. Every woman I know likes Sarah Palin and will be voting McCain and most of these women were undecided.Throw the polls away, after all, they had Kerry winning the election and before that Gore. Are the pollsters biased against the Republicans? Recent history says they are indeed. Why do the liberals hate Sarah Palin? Because she is a good person and does the right thing. That's why they hate her. She has 80-90% approval rating as governor and all the liberals talk about is she is a small town mayor. They hate her because her choice was to keep her Down Syndrome baby instead of killing it. They hate her because she is electrifying. They hate her because she is the biggest threat they have ever had to face. A powerful woman who happens to be conservative.
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Pywacket (Anonymous) says…

As for how to tell if Palin is lying: that's easy. If her mouth is moving, she's lying.Her smug claims that she rejects federal earmarks are utterly false. Like any other politician on the make, she goes after earmarks or rails against them, depending on which way the wind is blowing and what will benefit her personally.As mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired lobbyist Steven Silver (an Abramoff crony) to haul in $27,000 in fed money for the city of 6700, playing the “native American” card to get it approved. She didn't seem to have any qualms about begging for and accepting federal handouts then.And now she swaggers around boasting that, as governor, she told the Feds “If we want a bridge, we'll build it ourselves!” Well, isn't she tough? In truth, she supported the Gravina Island Bridge during her campaign, rejecting it only after Congress had already shot it down. She still received the over-$200,000 pork rind from the gov't and did NOT return it, contrary to her claims. Matter of public record.Get a load of the commentary on Palin's claims in “The Faithful Progressive”, a Christian-based blogspot: http://faithfulprogressive.blogspot.c…. The entire blog is worth reading. Here's a comment from the page, from SB George:This is the real story and the one that is being completely obscured by the whole pregnancy deal—which I don't care about or think is relevant.Their [the GOP's] narrative that she is the “inner John McCain,” a reformer, a corruption fighter, a cost-cutter is baseless and cynical. She … -Lied about the bridge. She campaigned for it!-did not fight earmarks—but paid lobbyists to get them.-did not take on Ted Stevens (well maybe a little AFTER his corruption scandals got hot) but [was] previously part of his corrupt machine. -is under investigation for credible allegations of abuse of power.”There is more credible evidence out there to refute her cynical, phony claims. But only if you pull your head out and READ.Here's a start: http://thinkprogress.org/wonkroom/200… try this one: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-met… media honeymoon should be over very soon. Let's see how Miss Porkbarrel stands up to challenges to her lies during press conferences or debates. I can't wait.And I haven't even touched on her many and easily refuted lies about Barack Obama…

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RedwoodCoast (Anonymous) says…

Good god, Marion. Abort her child? I surely hope that you aren't completely sincere with that comment.As for your other affronts to those belonging to subcultures other than your own, I personally feel that you're barking up an imaginary tree. Boy, wouldn't it be nice if we could generalize one's character simply by their appearance. “…a woman who doesn't wear her hair in dreads and who dresses stylishly, in a manner suiting her position in life and politics.”Thanks for defining the standards of attire and decorum for us. If Sarah Palin appeared in a debate this fall with newly-formed dreadlocks, that would just be horrible. It's just like Samson and his hair. She just wouldn't have that magical melange of fortitude and grace anymore. It's all in the hair and attire. You know, it's kind of like painting an old car that you've just fixed up. The new paint completely alters the way the thing runs and drives. Right?
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jaywalker (Anonymous) says…

Good to hear, jonas, definitely sounds like you've got your hands full. Just don't forget to give yourself time to decompress now and then, gotta stay fresh.Yeah, you're not missing anything new here, it just seems to get uglier as we approach November. I'm certain your's is time better spent. I hope to be teaching by next fall, any invaluable tips or insight you come across please feel free to share.
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beatrice (Anonymous) says…

bp: “They hate her because her choice was to keep her Down Syndrome baby …”I thought family was off limits. If so, then why do so many conservatives keep talking about the youngest Palin family member?If anything, talk about the second to youngest. Now that is a sweet looking child. Little Miss Alaskan Sunshine. But to use a Downs syndrome child to prop up your conservative agenda is simply sickening. I sure hope we learn more about her, and soon. It would be good to know more than what she read from the single prepared speech.
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Pywacket (Anonymous) says…

Big Prune~ You must run in a very tiny circle. No surprise there.I know no woman who identifies with this lying, smug hypocrite or who wants her in a position where she can pack the Supreme Court. Palin believes that a 12-year-old who is raped by her uncle should be forced by the federal government to carry the resulting repugnancy to term—further permanently scarring her psyche and blighting her life.Her idea of an empowered woman is herself standing over a bleeding caribou with a smoking gun or her pampered daughter being “saved” from unwed motherhood by Mommy-generated pressure on a hapless teen boy who is now being frog-marched into the mother of all shotgun weddings. Yay, Sarah! Yay, Bristol! Who cares about poor teens from broken families and impoverished backgrounds? No choice for them—they must do as Sarah's evangelical fundamentalist beliefs dictate.If you want bounce, try this on for size:The day after Palin's loudmouthed braggadocio-laden, lie-powered speech in St. Paul:The Obama campaign registered a one-day record of $10 million in donations. The McCain campain received $1 million. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/… some bounce for you!What an asset she'll be—for Obama's campaign!
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commuter (Anonymous) says…

I don't know enough about Palin yet. I was waiting for her hsuband to say ” For the first time in my life I am proud of my country”. For me, can anyone tell me what Obama has done in the Senate besides run for President?How is he going to pay for his plans?How is he going to help us get less dependent on foreign oil?People don't know if Palin is lying, I feel the same way about Obama. Going to Harvard Law School taight him very well on how to lie to people with straight face.
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RedwoodCoast (Anonymous) says…

commuter: Could one argue that years of torturous interrogation in a Vietnamese prison camp taught John McCain how to lie to people with a straight face? I'm not saying I think he's trying to swindle the country (and I don't think Obama is, either), but I'll bet the guy got pretty good at misinforming.
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JohnBrown (Anonymous) says…

Jerk_Patrol wrote: Most of this Palin discussion going on here and in the country still misses a discussion of the real issues.Big Prune wrote: Why do the liberals hate Sarah Palin? Because she is a good person and does the right thing. Big Prune: she may be a “good person” and “does the right thing', but does she tell the truth? This year, Alaska has asked for over $200 million in earmarks, so is she really against earmarks? eBay anyone? As mayor, did she leave her town in the black or in debt?The question that has to answered before long is: can Sarah Palin tell the difference between the truth and Alaskan-spun yarn?
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sunflower97 (Anonymous) says…

Who takes care of the kids while Palin is running the state? Who will take care of them if she is elected VP? It takes a lot of work to balance family and work. Who is raising the children still living at home while Mom works until 10pm at night (She said she doesn't get home until 10pm many nights). Dad has a job too, so are they using nannies? Why aren't those who are so in awe of her asking these questions?

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kansas778 (Anonymous) says…

JohnBrown (Anonymous) says: This year, Alaska has asked for over $200 million in earmarks, so is she really against earmarks? *************************************Alaska earmarks for 2005: $705 million.Alaska earmarks for 2008: $154 million.From http://earmarks.omb.gov/Please explain this drastic reduction in earmarks for the State of Alaska in recent years.
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Newell_Post (Anonymous) says…

Marion, I'm disappointed. Some of your previous posts have been the most intelligent and best researched things I have ever seen here. But every once in a while you go off on one of these dittohead rants that calls into question your credibility.I'm neither a liberal nor a Democrat, but I have quite a few friends who are. None of them hate Palin. Certainly, none of them hate her for having a Downs Syndrome child. They merely oppose her attempts to use the power of the Federal government to force the same situation (or much worse) on everyone in the entire country. None of my liberal friends have bashed the daughter for anything. They oppose the hypocrisy of the mother for wallowing in “family values” and abstinence-only education and then weasel-wording the need for a shotgun wedding.In terms of Palin's speeches, I thought they were are at least as snide and narcissistic as anything Hillary Clinton ever came out with, if not far worse. Nobody hates Palin. But lots of people don't want her as VP to a guy that has about 50% odds of not surviving even one term in office due to age, cancer history, and family history of fatal heart attacks.
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Pywacket (Anonymous) says…

commuter~You seem to have missed Obama's convention speech, during which he answered many of your questions, but you can do some very easy searches—avoiding, I would hope, the rabidly partisan sources on either side of the aisle.He has accomplished a good deal so far and has helped pass some vital legislature (contrary to Palin's false claims). He has sensible ideas about paying for his plans (which do not involve further impoverishing the middle class!), and plans to take a multi-front approach to squelching dependence on foreign oil. In fact, Palin apparently liked his ideas on energy so much, she regurgitated each point, up to and including wind and nuclear power, after first lying and stating that Obama planned to “do nothing.” Apparently, her speechwriters are counting on nobody checking the veracity of anything she said—which is probably true in the case of the hardline party faithful, but to include such blatant lies was an insult to informed independents.Obviously, I am biased, so don't listen to me. I'm an independent who is solidly behind Obama. But this election is too important not to make the best decision you possibly can, so I urge you to do your research yourself—gather the facts as well as you can from the most unbiased sources you can, then read some opinions from all over the board—especially from bi-partisan sources or those who make an earnest effort to be open minded.
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TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…

Again, not to sound like a broken record but sure I probably do, of all things related to this election cycle, the left leaning media's commitment to seeing Obama in office is the most maddening. The far-left blogs sort of feed the news cycles, and it all ties into a dogpile of propaganda, lies or lies by ommission and fabrications…..to tear down Republicans, McCain, Palin and the entire conservative movement in the name of the most hated president ever, George W. Bush. McCain has never been GWB's lapdog, no matter what the Obama commercials and blogs say. I hope the people make the right decision and reject Obama and Biden. And why is Joe screaming, red-faced, with abrupt hand motions in his appearances? It's too unsettling to watch him.
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TacoBob (Anonymous) says…

Wondering why Oprah won't have Palin on the show when Obama, Clintons, Gore, etc. have been there. Fuels the thought process that the Dems are 'afraid' of her. I don't think they are so why not make some interesting TV and end up with killer ratings. Is the demographic influence a concern?
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

bennyoates (Anonymous) says: “Marion Lynn has never known anything about reality and never will. That's why his weblog doesn't have a title like, “Why the Republican Party is terrified of George W. Bush.”Marion writes:No, Benny, it's because this blog is about why “liberals” hate Sarah Palin.Why don't you get to writin', there, Bud and put up your own blog?
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TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…

Wondering the same TacoBob….Obamas on late '06 ….she claims she does want her show to be a political influence. Sure, Oprah.
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…

Geez, Marion, as I was trying to parse all the stereotypes, I realizedyou'd escalated to quadraphenotyping, and… wait a minute…it's branching, again….

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vavs0929 (Anonymous) says…

Im not scared of a woman who has extra-marital affairs and is anti-gay and anti-choice. Im afraid of what she would do in office.
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Pogo (Anonymous) says…

Let's put things in perspective relative to the blog's author:Lynn was an active informant for the K.B.I. during the fun days of the early '70's and Vern Miller.Why respond to anything an informant (a.k.a. narc) writes?
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TheSychophant (Anonymous) says…

Was he a narc, ie., a sworn and credentialed law enforcment officer, or a snitch. Hard to condemn a cop for doing his job, just because he was following the orders of his superiors. ; But gratituiosly snitching on people he knew, now thats something entirely different.
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8ball (Anonymous) says…

why in the hell would any republican agree to appear on meet the press or 60 minutes or any other of these repulican hating shows?if i was running for any office as a republican i would say to hell with all of them.this whole country is out of touch.no matter who wins this election he is going to start off with a 50 percent disapproval rating.
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tin (Anonymous) says…

You ought to be asking yourself why Palin is afraid to have a news conference or be interviewed by a source other than People magazine, to which she gave her only interview since being chosen.For the same reason BO won't be interviewed by Sean Hannity, Mark Lavin or Rush Limbaugh exc. abc, nbc, cnn, msnbc none of them report the news they all report there opinion which is slanted to the left. Just like US magazine printing there BS cover of Baby's, Lies and Scandal. She'll never get a fair shake in this upside down left slanted world.As a special education teacher and as a mother I cannot imagine taking on a job that requires leaving your family for extended periods of time. I thought this was what the left and the womans right movement was all about. Women having the right to do as they wish regardless of whats best for there family. I thought it was all about a womans right to choose what she wants for her life, even if it means killing her own unborn children. Geez people take a stand for something and then stick to your guns, it always seems to be OK for one side to act one way but when the other side does the same damn thing its wrong. Is BO a bad father because he's running for president, is a fathers influence on his children less important then a mothers?
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JohnBrown (Anonymous) says…

My problem with Sarah is I don't know, and can't tell, when she's telling the truth and when she's spinning some more Alaskan yarn.Take the Alaskan State's luxury jet. Did she sell it on e-Bay or not? Did she sell it for a profit or a loss? Or the Bridge to Nowhere: was she for it before she was against it? Or was she always against it? Did she take the earmark money and just spend it on something else, or did she return that money to the US taxpayers? What does she REALLY think about the Iraqi war, is it sound national policy or part of “God's war”? Did she really do all that Canadian pipeline negotiations or was it in the works before she became gov and she just finished it up? And why was she at this year's Alaskan Independent Party's convention if she believes in putting 'country first'? And what does “putting country first” and “service” mean to her if she's willing to demean the tens of thousands of people who participate in community service by helping economically displaced people?Finally, I'd like to hear her opinions on “choice” or “right to life”. Is she really against a woman's right to choose if she's pregnant from a rape? Is she really FOR a would-be rapist's right to choose the mother of his offspring?I know it's cold in Alaska a lot of the time, but down here in the lower 48 we need less yarn spinning and more straight talk. When will she give us that?
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camper (Anonymous) says…

Hate is a pretty strong word. And it is in the title. Now that's a sweeping statement ain't it?
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TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…

When Palin starts doing the liberal news interviews, the main focus will to be to demoralize and demean her the entire interview. When O'Reilly finally gets a high-profile liberal guest (Michael Moore, Hillary Clinton, Obama) it is a a fair, issue centered interview….not just a chance to get them on there and beat them to pieces.The left is very, very angry, and since Palin–-the anger is off the charts–that is a fact.

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kansas778 (Anonymous) says…

JohnBrown, again, how do you explain the drastic reduce in earmarks going to Alaska under Governor Palin? You're lying, and it's embarassing. There's no need to respond to any of other your unsubstiated criticisms after you've been caught lying already.
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tin (Anonymous) says…

I'm sure if you really wanted to know the answers to your questions you would take the time to GOOGLE for answers. But instead of looking for answers and the truth you just want to post up a bunch of questions to try and cast doubt on her character and her word. Beings you don't know the answers to your questions why don't you find out first before you start with the whole I think she's lying crap. Who takes care of the kids while Palin is running the state? Who will take care of them if she is elected VP? It takes a lot of work to balance family and work. Who is raising the children still living at home while Mom works until 10pm at night (She said she doesn't get home until 10pm many nights). Dad has a job too, so are they using nannies? Why aren't those who are so in awe of her asking these questions?And who is going to take care of BO children when he's gone all the time? This is what I was refuring to in my earlier post, it's OK if BO is gone all the time if he was president but OMG how could Sarah Palin do this to her children what a horrible mother she must be. Get real it's no dam different. Find a new rant. Besides last I checked it sounds like a typical American family in which both parents work, and therefor the parents have to work together to fill in the gaps so one parent is available to take care of the kids when the other is at work. When I was married my wife worked nights at the hospital and I worked days. We made it work and I'm sure they will to. Welcome to the todays world.
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jonas_opines (Anonymous) says…

“The left is very, very angry, and since Palin-the anger is off the chartsthat is a fact.”I don't know, your “facts” have always been pretty suspect.
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kansas778 (Anonymous) says: JohnBrown, again, how do you explain the drastic reduce in earmarks going to Alaska under Governor Palin? You're lying, and it's embarassing. There's no need to respond to any of other your unsubstiated criticisms after you've been caught lying already.~~~All the reduction means is that Congress didn't approve all that was asked for. If you are attributing the reduction to Gov. Palin, that would be false. She did ask for over $200 million but she didn't get it. Big whoop.
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Logan72 (Alia Ahmed) says…

Jerk patrol states:>>>>>>>>Alia: Advancing Bill O'Reillys consistency of logic or lack thereof to anyone, for any purpose, is just as vapid and stupid as your Kos-sourced blog questioning the parentage of the infant. Most of this Palin discussion going on here and in the country still misses a discussion of the real issues. But it is so much more enjoyable to talk about sex and pregnancy and such:..Jerk-patrol, The first sentence of this blog talks about Palin's son with Down Syndrome, Cal Thomas' column yesterday talked about Bristol's pregnancy. Who's keeping the focus on sex and pregnancy and such? I responded to this blog with O'Reilly's statements to point out that the hypocritical extremist right do the very thing the accuse the left of doing. It seems like there are people trying to raise legitimate questions about Palin's stance on foreign policy and the economy. Since she is not allowed to be interviewed or be present on nationally recognized news programs, people will have to look at her past record to find out what she stands for. So far, what has come to light is that fact she was in favor of the Bridge to Nowhere, Against the Bridge to Nowhere, Against earmarks while taking millions of dollars worth as mayor of Wasilla and governor of Alaska, yet the city of Wasilla being in debt millions of the dollars when she left office. Maybe that's why Marion, Bill O'Reilly and Cal Thomas keep bringing up the subject of sex and pregnancy and such. Maybe that's why the McCain/Palin election committee announced Bristol's pregnancy when they did. If we keep talking about sex and pregnancy and such, no one will pay attention to her record in office. I did write a blog that perpetuated a rumor about the Palins first reported in the DailyKos. That was an error on my part. The sources for that rumor were not reliable and biased. I admit it was a serious lapse in judgement on my part. But, you bringing that up, doesn't negate the fact the the right keeps talking about sex and pregnancy and such and that they judge other people (Brittany Spears family and others) the way the accuse the left of doing.
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tin (Anonymous) says: Besides last I checked it sounds like a typical American family in which both parents work, and therefor the parents have to work together to fill in the gaps so one parent is available to take care of the kids when the other is at work. When I was married my wife worked nights at the hospital and I worked days. We made it work and I'm sure they will to. Welcome to the todays world.~~~While I don't think her working is a reflection on her parenting skills, it is a reflection as to how true she is to her pro-family platform she has been running. I think this is the issue that most people who are asking questions are trying to make.Given that both parents for their family are not working for purely financial reasons (i.e. both must work to provide the basic needs for the family), I think it is reasonable to assume Todd Palin could be at home with the kids.It isn't if a man is incapable of being the primary care provider. But he isn't. He chose to go back to work despite the fact that he has a child that has special needs and one that most likely will have medical problems of some sort that need to be attended to. Why aren't people who are pro-family taking him to task for not being there full-time for his family?Additionally, being a VP really isn't a job that you can trade off shifts for insuring that at least one parent is with the kids like many folks currently do. There are going to be times where the needs of the nation demand that she travel and be gone for weeks at a time. The only way this can work is if she employs someone else other than her husband to care for her children. It is good that she can afford to. Most families can't and are pretty much told to suck it up by people who claim to be pro-family.
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

jerk_patrol (Anonymous) says: “Lynn was an active informant for the K.B.I. during the fun days:.”And he is even still today a sycophant of one of the World's most notorious Holocaust-Deniers.”Marion writes:Actually, no but we are not going to make this into a David Irving thread, so this will be my only reply to that issue.Although I respect much of the research and it is an historically significant volume of research, of Mr, Irving, I reject many of his conclusions.I am not stupid enough to throw out the baby with the bath water and recognise that Mr. Irving is responsible for the preservation of thousands of documents and inerviews which without him would be lost and which would never have occured.Mr, Irving is a brilliant historian, multi-lingual, an unstoppable rand effective esearcher but misguided in his conclusions and I'm not certain why.I spent a few hours with him recently and was reaffirmed in both his genius and his errors in fact and conclusions.Some of his conclusions are simply wrong, that's all.con'td:
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camper (Anonymous) says…

“The left is very angry”. How can you tell? How does one measure anger? Is there a lefto-anger-meter or something?I don't know. I aint even left. I'm pretty much center field. I just find this whole Palin debate not even newsworthy. It is unfair to criticize her….and at the same time there is really no need to praise her.

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Godot (Anonymous) says…

It is entirely possible for parents to be pro-life, pro-family, and to have both parents working. That is how the majority of American families operate. I would venture to say that Sarah Palin is more “in touch” with the problems facing ordinary Americans than any vice-presidential candidate, ever.
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

cont'd:Some are correct and those are the most annoying to any number of people.The Holocaust occured, although it may not have gone down in quite the way that the public thinks that it did; there were interests which dealt in the currency of the Holocaust; those who were considered the Untermancsh and those who dealt in that currency bear responsibility as well.Mr. Irving has forgotten the objectivity which an historian must at all times maintain.That Anti-Semitism is alive and well in the USA is demonstrated by the criticism by US citizens of the State of Israel; a country created by the United Nations mandate and just you wait………….there will be all sorts of negative replies from those who oppose Israel who at the same time, support the UN!Mr. Irving's belief that Adolf Hitler did not know hwat was going on in the extermination camps is absurd.That there are no documents which specifically refer to Hitler's knowledge of the Final Solution comes as no surprise to me and is most likley quite correct.as Eichmann and the other planners of that horror at Wannsee intended it to be so and wrote about insulating Hitler from it such that what we now call “plausible deniability” might be preserved after the final victory, which of course, did not happen.That it was the intention of the Nazis, not the Germans as a nation, to eliminate certain ethinc groups is clear from the evidence. It is equally clear that the popular notions of how the Nazis went about this are often incorrect.It is also clear that the average German on the street in 1933-1945 did not know what was going on.Germans joined the Nazi party because it was required or joined up very much like people join the Democrat party; just to align themselves with a party which they believe offers them the most hope.I consider Mr. Irving a friend with whom I disagree on certain issues, just as you have friends with whom you disagree and you should not try to deny me my friends, as I will not try to deny you yours.I value this photo even though it is terrible and makes me look awful (t was taken by a Professor of History at a nearby un-named university who had no idea how to run the camera and didn't use a flash!):http://img114.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03858lf1.jpgI also value some of Mr. Irving's books, all signed by him, which are included in my library, right along with other books signed by such notables as FDR, Harry Truman, Bill Clinton and others.As far as my experience in law enforcement, I was duly appointed by the Attorney General, with full powers of arrest, etc, and it was that experience which led to my complete reversal on my thoughts concerning our repressive drug laws and I have repeatedly stated such on this forum and others.The so-called “War On Drugs” is a “War On The American People” and needs to be halted forthwith!Now can we please get back to the matter at hand?
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sunflower97 (Anonymous) says…

some missed my point of asking who takes care of the kids…many kids are in two parent homes and both parents work - that's how our family does it. My husband I both work full time. I just find it interesting that a family with a newborn baby, a minor who is expecting, and other minor children in the house, thinks that they can take on a bigger responsibility that may ultimately take away from the attention needed within the home. Obama's kids are school aged, and his wife resigned from her part time position. Big difference from caring for a newborn with special needs that you are still nursing. And another young daughter expecting - Shoot! I'd have a wedding to plan or at least arrangements to put the baby up for adoption if my yougun decides not to marry the guy. I guess I'd consider the job if I got $200,000, free childcare, and access to great schools. If Palin gets elected, of course, she will turn down all the perks that come with being VP, right? I don't want the Republicans shoving “family values” in my face, unless they are willing to be open to all families choosing what's best for them. Such as, loving homosexuals who want to be parents or at least recognized as a legal union, and the right for women to choose a procedure that is legal and safe.
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TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…

Marion, is this why liberals really hate Palin?http://onemansblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/sarah-palin-hottie.jpgJust a little easier on the eye than Joe Biden (especially when his face is red, veins popping out of his neck in his Hitleresque speeches).
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sunflower97 (Anonymous) says…

Thanks Katara. Your post put it more eloquently!
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Katara (Anonymous) says…

Godot (Anonymous) says: It is entirely possible for parents to be pro-life, pro-family, and to have both parents working. That is how the majority of American families operate. I would venture to say that Sarah Palin is more “in touch” with the problems facing ordinary Americans than any vice-presidential candidate, ever.~~~While I agree with that it is possible for parents to do this, this is not the case when you get to jobs such as Governor and VP. There is not a way to trade shifts with these types of jobs. These jobs are incredibly time consuming. Given that neither Todd Palin nor Sarah Palin can operate as the typical American family as they have their schedules set up, it is just not a good comparision.Both of them are lucky that they can afford to hire someone to care for their kids full-time. Most typical American families can't. While it is good that they have been successful enough to do so, it is one of the reasons why Sarah Palin is not in touch with most American families or their issues.
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TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…

So Palin is pro-life and didn't abort her Down Syndrome baby…..as Katara says: “Big whoop”. And at least the left is focusing on something–-Palins' gender and family.
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Tom Shewmon (Tom Shewmon) says: So Palin is pro-life and didn't abort her Down Syndrome baby:..as Katara says: “Big whoop”.And at least the left is focusing on something-Palins' gender and family.~~~Please be accurate if you are going to quote me. Big whoop refers to the reduction in earmarks that some are falsely trying to attribute to Sarah Palin's actions. It has nothing to do with her choice to give birth or her family's choices. Both of which I respect but find inconsistent with her public policy platforms.

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Godot (Anonymous) says…

A woman with children is just as capable of fulfilling the duties and responsibilities of Vice President or Commander in Chief as is a man, even if one or more of the children has “special needs.”I feel like I have travelled in time back to the 70's. This is extremely weird. Apparrently the only ones who truly enacted the original feminist ideal of equality for women and the attending responsibility that it entails, are conservative women.
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Tom Shewmon (Tom Shewmon) says: Marion, is this why liberals really hate Palin?http://onemansblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/sarah-palin-hottie.jpgJust a little easier on the eye than Joe Biden (especially when his face is red, veins popping out of his neck in his Hitleresque speeches).”Marion writes:D**n!You should warn me when you are going to do stuff like that!Made me spill some of my adult beverage on my keyboard!Yeah, that is as good a reason as any for starters!!!!!As opposed to:http://www.extrememortman.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/Hillary%20Clinton%20from%20all4humor.jpgI mean, I dunno, which one would you vote for?
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kansas778 (Anonymous) says:JohnBrown, again, how do you explain the drastic reduce in earmarks going to Alaska under Governor Palin? You're lying, and it's embarassing. There's no need to respond to any of other your unsubstiated criticisms after you've been caught lying already.My response;1- in a March 18 Juneau Empire op-ed, John Katz, Alaska's director of state-federal relations and special counsel to Palin, wrote that in 2008, the Palin administration “request[ed] 31 earmarks, down from 54 last year.” Of these, 27 involve continuing or previous appropriations and four are new. The total dollar amount of these requests has been reduced from about $550 million in the previous year to just less than $200 million.Conclusion: Palin asked for earmarks this year.2- why were the earmarks asked for this year lower than before? —Congress has instituted reforms including the identification of each earmark's sponsor and a prohibition against earmarks inserted into the budget without public discussion.—Earlier this year, President Bush and the congressional leadership announced that the total number and dollar amount of earmarks must be reduced significantly.Conclusion: Earmarks are declining nationwide, not because of some decision by Gov. Palin.Where is it that I have lied? I deserve an apology.
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Redneckgal (Anonymous) says…

McCain can stand up on stage and talk all he wants about reuniting the country and being everyones president but since he picked this woman as a running mate it is pretty clear that if he is elected it will never happen.She represents every reason why this country is so divided and will remain so.She is loud mouthed self-righteous hypocrite who makes it pretty clear that she has no intention to do anything but feed the fire of division.
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teachandlearn (Anonymous) says…

You are a pig! Last time I checked we were voting for a pres/vp not a beauty pageant. Maybe too much drinking of adult beverages explains your irrational thoughts and blogs!
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at 6:20 p.m. “tin” said:”I'm sure if you really wanted to know the answers to your questions you would take the time to GOOGLE for answers. But instead of looking for answers and the truth you just want to post up a bunch of questions to try and cast doubt on her character and her word.”My reply: You are correct, I am interested in casting doubt on her word, because what she has said is not true, but rather was said to mislead (a character issue). in fact, I knew the answers before I asked them. Just wanted to see if any of her rabid supporters would come out front and address them.Bridge to Nowhere: Palin recently said” “I told Congress, 'Thanks, but no thanks,' on that bridge to nowhere.”What really happened? October 22, 2006, Anchorage Daily News asked then-gubernatorial candidate Palin the question, “Would you continue state funding for the proposed Knik Arm and Gravina Island bridges?” her answer: “Yes”. PolitiFact.com reports: “By the time Palin pulled the plug on the Gravina bridge project in September 2007, much of the federal funding for the bridge had already been diverted to other transportation projects.” It further stated that “[w]hen Palin says 'I told Congress, 'Thanks, but no thanks,' on that bridge to nowhere,' it implies Congress said, 'Here's a check for that bridge' and she responded, 'No thanks, that's wasteful spending; here's your money back.' That's not what happened. Fact is, Alaska took the bridge money, and then just spent it on other projects. Conclusion: I did not lie about this one.I will be glad to make additional posts addressing the queries I asked, if you will acknowledge she mislead the people she spoke to (of which I was one).All I want is a full accounting of her (and your) ability to separate the truth from Alaskan yarn spinning.
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camper (Anonymous) says…

I don't see why everyone is making such a big fuss about Palin. Who cares. Both the Democratic and Republican conventions are just a bunch of nonsense. These are nothing but tent revials and medicine shows, but instead of preachers and swindlers you got politicians….big deal they are cut from the same cloth anyway.
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

teachandlearn (Anonymous) says: You are a pig! Last time I checked we were voting for a pres/vp not a beauty pageant. Maybe too much drinking of adult beverages explains your irrational thoughts and blogs!”Marion writes:Teachandlearn, you should not talk to JohnBrown(Anonymous) that way!

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teachandlearn (Anonymous) says…

Ha!Ha!Ha! I just did some research and decided Palin should vote for Obama. He has an extensive plan to help people with disabilities. http://www.barackobama.com/issues/dis… he is elected his programs will help her son, as well as millions of others with disabilities get the help they so deserve. Funny enough, McCain's website has no plan.
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DinkyDow (Anonymous) says…

No, they hate her because Obama was stupid enough to not pick clinton and now they are going to get theit butt handed to them because McCain didn't make a mistake in who he picked. Blame Obama not Pilan
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…

Does Sarah Palin really engender enough interest even to warrant concern,let alone hatred? I'm trying to work myself up to it-and I've seen the “risque” photos-but, frankly… y a w n .
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unklemonkey (Anonymous) says…

Marion, you are an idiot.
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tunahelper (Anonymous) says…

democrats are weenies, abortionists, tax raisers, idiots.Sarah Palin has lots more experience than omaba. omaba is gonna lose.GO McCain!
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BigPrune (Anonymous) says…

Liberals hate Palin because she is beautiful and conservative and has had an 80-90% approval rating in her state as governor. Liberal women tend to be less kept, no make-up, no lipstick, etc, etc, and since they are in Congress their approval ratings are under 19%.
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

I am looking forward to Barack Hussein Obama's comments on this matter of a teenaged Muslim girl having killed by her own family.Unless I am mistaken, Barack Hussein Obama has immediate family members who are Muslim and it is my thought that he should comment on this, especially as regards how the Muslim branch of his family feels about it.http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24302102-401,00.html”Married at 9, slain by parents at 17By Bruce Loudon in IslamabadSeptember 06, 2008 12:00am. despair among human rights workers in Pakistan over a rash of so-called “honour killings” intensified yesterday when it was disclosed that a girl forced into marriage with a 45-year-old man at the age of nine had been killed by her parents because she asked for an annulment.The girl, 17, who had been fighting a lonely but successful legal battle, was coming out of court in the Punjabi city of Sahiwal after being granted the annulment by a judge when she was surrounded by a group of men and shot in view of police. The death of Saira Nusrat Bibi has added further to concerns among human rights campaigners already outraged over the case of five women - among them three teenage schoolgirls - buried alive in the province of Baluchistan because they wanted to marry men of their choice in defiance of the wishes of tribal leaders. The Baluchistan case was worsened by an attempt by a member of the country's national parliament, senator Israr Ullah Zehri, to defend it, telling colleagues that “these are centuries-old traditions and I will continue to defend them”, The Weekend Australian reports. Members of the religious Jamaat-e-Islami party rounded on Senator Zehi, declaring: “We condemn this barbaric act. This is against Islam, against humanity and against civilised culture.” Yesterday, the Government bowed to pressure and ordered an inquiry into the killings. Details that have emerged from the village of Baba Kot in Baluchistan indicate that the three girls — aged between 16 and 18 - and two of their elderly relatives were “shot at” before being buried alive.”When the fuming elders of the Umrani tribe came to know about the intentions of these girls, they picked them up from their homes along with two of their elderly relatives,” one account said. “The crying girls were pushed into official cars and driven to a deserted area. There they were pushed out of the cars, made to stand in a queue, and volleys of shots fired at them. As the bleeding girls fell to the sand, the tribesmen dragged them into a nearby ditch and levelled it with earth and stones. “As the two shocked elderly women tried to rescue the hapless girls, they too were gunned down and buried in the same manner. The killers after burying these women returned to their tribe like conquerors without any action taken against them”
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JohnBrown (Anonymous) says…

Big Prune, her high approval rating is due to her giving each taxpayer about $1800 from the Alaskan franchise on oil, caused by the recently high oil prices. This is great fiscal planning, instead of socking that money into a state fund for rainy days (like when the oil runs out) she's out creating a welfare state.I asked if Palin left her town in the red or black? Answer, the town had no debt when she took office, but after 6 years the town had a debt of $22 million. $15 million went for a community center, even tho the town had no sewage treatment plant.Palin is not a fiscal conservative when it come to OPM.

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verity (Anonymous) says…

Usually I try to be civil and not get involved in name calling, but this blog and comments is the biggest bunch of BS and lies that I have ever seen.So many of you do a strawman definition of liberals and then shoot it down. Do you really believe what you say, or do you just like to be nasty and hateful?I am a proud liberal and the things you say I believe aren't even close to the truth. You do not get to define me, yet you try to do it in a most deceitful and hateful way.Those of you who claim to be christians, you are the reason for many people not wanting anything to do with your kind of christians.As for Obama having no substance–obviously you haven't been listening or done much research. Since you are on here, you have access to the internet–try doing some research. But you don't want to, do you? You just want to find fault.We are all in this together.
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verity (Anonymous) says…

By the way, I do not hate Sarah Palin and I do not wish she had aborted her child. Has anybody, liberal or conservative, said that?”a woman who doesn't wear her hair in dreads”–Marian, who are you referring to?
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verity (Anonymous) says…

I am a proud liberal woman and I did not support Hillary Clinton. I did not dream of a bra-burning “womyn” on the ticket and that other crap you say I wanted. Where do you get this stuff?Well, I know I'm wasting my time here.
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LiberalDude (Anonymous) says…

This is a stupid blog. As a liberal, I try not to hate anyone and I definitely don't hate Sarah Palin. I don't want her in the White House, though. McCain/Palin would be Bush/Cheney all over again.
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jonas (Anonymous) says…

Marion Lynn (Marion Lynn) says:”OK, I'll put up an equally offensive propaganda based blog and we'll see how long it stays up!Would you care to play a game?”So, your equally-offensive propaganda-based blog has been up for 2 days here, more or less. It's almost as if the LjWorld is relatively neutral in the grand scheme of things after all.So now, the real question is: will your offensive propaganda based blog prove as relevant for as long as Epp's did? Did you really try hard enough to be a total douche? We'll see, shan't we?
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JackKats (Anonymous) says…

http://explorations.chasrmartin.com/2… those who are interested on looking at some information about the spinning that you get in main stream media go to the link above. JohnBrown….I looked this up on google and it only took about ten minutes to find it. Please take some time to read this to get better informed instead fo asking for information on the blogs. Do some research and you can find the answers yourself but since you asked…I have done this for you.
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ReadingSports (Anonymous) says…

Jonas,Dude, do you eat with that mouth? :-)Surely, you must admit that some of the comments about Palin have been if not hateful, then a bit over the top. I would add that I think that some, not all, of the extreme left hates Palin because she's an evangelical Christian. I'm sure that if you read through the posts above you might find one or two or 6000 liberals commenting on Gov. Palin's religious beliefs in a negative way.Or maybe it was 6660. ;-)
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overplayedhistory (Anonymous) says…

If you have not seen this letter I urge you to read it. The letter is from a resident of Wasilla, Alaska. http://www.thepresidentialcandidates….

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jonas_opines (Anonymous) says…

ReadingSports (Anonymous) says:”Jonas,Dude, do you eat with that mouth? :-)Surely, you must admit that some of the comments about Palin have been if not hateful, then a bit over the top.”Of course they have, that's why I said “equally offensive” and not simply “offensive.” The main point was that they aren't getting pulled, regardless of the slant of the rhetoric, which was what Marion wanted to dispute, and why he made this. (assuming, of course, that his motivations remained constant) And yes, I eat with that mouth. I hardly care what goes down my gullet most times, so cleanliness isn't always a superior concern. I do, however, wash my mouth before kissing my mother, when my mother is around.
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Now that we've gotten all the Red Herrings netted anad safely cooling in the hold, let's get back to business and deal with the initial topic of this discussion; why liberals hate Sarah Palin!Now…..based on the replies and my own experience, I'm going to summarise a few of these reasons, based on the time proven *SWAG* method Scientific Wild A**ed Guess) just to see how close to the mark I really am.Sarah Palin is:(1) Hated by “liberal” women because she chose life over the vivisection of her unborn Down's Syndrome child. shot that whole “It's a blessing to abort a disabled child!” thing all to Glory, she did.(2) Liberal women hate Sarah Palin because Sarah Palin is everything that they are not; an intelligent, beautiful, powerful and influential woman and the Liberal women haven't the faintest idea where to start in pitiful but doomed attempts to emulate such a woman.(3) Most liberal men don't really hate Sarah Palin but have to act like theydo lest their liberal wives dump the dinner plate on their heads at the first sign of any sort of approval of Sarah Palin.(4) Liberals across the entire spectrum of that strange philosophy hate Sarah Palin because liberals have wanted a awomen a heartbeat away from the Oval Office and they are now going to have one; just not the kind that they wanted.(5) Liberals hate Sarah Palin because they know that should, God forbid, President McCain become disabled or pass away at a point beyond halfway in his term of office, liberals would be looking at a full ten years of Palin administration; the thought of which drives liberals to things like Panama Red, MD 20-20 and absinthe.Well, so much for my *SWAG*!Anyone care to add to the plethora of reasons why liberals hate Sarah Palin?
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jonas_opines (Anonymous) says…

Can we call into questions the ones you've put up, first? On the grounds of you just made them up, probably without actually talking to any women or liberals first.
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jonas_opines (Anonymous) says…

Or are you just escalating things? Don't worry, I'm sure that if you keep getting more absurd and insulting, you will eventually get your comments and potentially the whole blog pulled, but again that's the same as with everybody else.
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Jonas do you want to participate in this discussion or just “opine” on motives?In any case, the motives are clearly set out in the original blog post.Now you can play online Sigmund Freud all you want but if you cannot make a reasonable contribution to the discussion, I would suggest that you get back to studying Mandarin or the terra-cotta army.
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dandelion (Anonymous) says…

Marion,Liberals don't hate Palin, they just aren't going to vote for her. Try listening for a change.
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overplayedhistory (Anonymous) says…

Read the letter from Anne Kilkenny. I don't hate Sara Palin I just don't want another GWB a heart beat away from the big seat. As Mayor and Governor she behaved just like W, a traitor to the peoples best interest. The Billionaires should love the pick. I am socially liberal and fiscally conservative and like you Marion I have a problem with Jesus freaks that want to bring their beliefs into our Government and thus my life. Read the writing on the walls, the republicans are no longer the party of Lincon or Teddy R. or even Ronald.
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teachandlearn (Anonymous) says…

I don't hate Palin. I am definitely glad she did not abort her child just because he has Down Syndrome. Frankly the comment about liberal women hating her because she is a “intelligent, beautiful, powerful and influential woman” is disgusting. I am all of those things, but because my views differ from yours, you think that I am not. I will not vote for Palin, but it is because I do not agree with her/McCain's platform. As for the killing of the Muslim girl, that is just sick and wrong! I don't get what that really has to do with Obama though. Is he guilty by association? Because he happened to be born to a Muslim man he must think it is ok. I was also born to a Muslim man, who by the way does not share those believes, so does that make the killings ok with me? NO! Most Muslims would condemn those killings. The people who do condene those actions are a few religious zealots. Unfortunately, every religion has a few nuts!

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verity (Anonymous) says…

“'a woman who doesn't wear her hair in dreads'Marian, who are you referring to?”Marian, you still haven't answered my question as to who you were referring to. I could accuse you of being racist for such a loaded statement, but I won't. I'm giving you a chance to explain yourself.I choose who I vote for not by their looks or even necessarily their experience and certainly not their religion. I choose who I think is capable of making the best decisions.
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JHOK32 (Anonymous) says…

This the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. It's almost as ridiculous as saying Big oilmen Bush & McCain are going to team up with an Alaskan governor to tap Alaska'a gas & oil so big oil companies can make more record $Billion dollar profits….they surely wouldn't do that, would they?
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bluerose (Anonymous) says…

that is probably the stupidest editorial i have ever had the displeasure of reading in LJWord.
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…

“Why Liberals Hate Sarah Palin”Liberals don't “hate” Sarah Palin.They disdain Palin supporters putting *hateful* words into their mouths.
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verity (Anonymous) says…

Hurray for you, Marian. You've just fired up a bunch of “hateful liberals” to make sure Obama/Biden win in November.A great big thanks.
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Verity:Learn to spell.
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verity (Anonymous) says…

Wow, Marion, you really got me on that one. I apologize if I offended you.But you still haven't answered my question. Who is this statement referring to?”a woman who doesn't wear her hair in dreads”As I said before, I could accuse you of being racist for such a loaded statement, but I won't. I'm giving you a chance to explain yourself.
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Since dredlocks are worn by persons of all “races” (A term now disused in anthropology) and ethnic groups but especially by pseudo-hippies, someone please explain to me just exactly how my use of the term is “racist”.This should be good but the accusations are merely another Red Herring as the use of the term is in no way “racist” except inside the disjointed minds of the Pseudo-liberal/Neo-socialists, that is; inside the minds of the “liberals” who hate Sarah Palin, which haters desperately seek a way to cut off the head of the messenger in the mistaken belief that doing so will silence the message.This technique has worked well in the past you see, as an example; a couple of thousand years ago when the Romans crucified this guy from Nazareth, his message was not only silenced but forgotten completely.

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JohnBrown (Anonymous) says…

JackKats wrote:http://explorations.chasrmartin.com/2008:”For those who are interested on looking at some information about the spinning that you get in main stream media go to the link above.”JohnBrown:.I looked this up on google and it only took about ten minutes to find it. Please take some time to read this to get better informed instead fo asking for information on the blogs. Do some research and you can find the answers yourself but since you asked:I have done this for you.”JackKats, I looked it up too, and found a few errors of fact that relate to my previous queries.1. “One of Palin's first acts as governor was to sell the governor's jet on eBay. ” Not true. she did put the $2.7 million jet up on eBay, but there were no offers, so it was sold by a broker for $2.1 million, at a loss.2.” yes, she did finally turn down the money for the bridge. Yes, that meant changing her mind about it.” Wrong. She did NOT turn down that money, she accepted it an spent it on other projects. From the Anchorage Daily News: “The Alaska governor campaigned in 2006 on a build-the-bridge platform, telling Ketchikan residents she felt their pain when politicians called them “nowhere.” They're still feeling pain today in Ketchikan, over Palin's subsequent decision to use the bridge funds for other projects —”.3. the site confirms my statement that Palin left the town she was mayor of with $22 million in debt.4. Re: God's war. See the AP piece “Palin: Iraq war 'a task that is from God' by gene johnson: anchorage, Alaska (AP) - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin told ministry students at her former church that the United States sent troops to fight in the Iraq war on a “task that is from God.” Thanks for “researching”, but no thanks.We need straight talk, not more Alaskan yarn spinning.
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verity (Anonymous) says…

Marion, I made it very clear that I was not accusing you, I was asking for an explanation.You did use it in a disparaging manner, so whether it was racist or not, you insulted people who wear “dreads”. And you twisted it into another “reason” why “liberals hate Gov. Palin.”That statement is getting really old. I am a liberal and I do not hate Sarah Palin and many other liberals commenting here have said the same thing. Talk about beating a dead horse.
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verity (Anonymous) says…

And thanks again for firing up the liberals to make sure Obama/Biden win the election. I for one am going to work even harder because of you.
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jonas_opines (Anonymous) says…

Marion Lynn (Marion Lynn) says:”Jonas do you want to participate in this discussion or just “opine” on motives?”I'd rather the latter, frankly. There's not much here worthy of discussion, which I think you know as well as I do. We both know (I opine) your original motives in making this blog. You made them pretty clear the other day.At any rate, I've made at least one assertion that you have yet to answer, being that you've made up virtually everything you've talked about so far. The Terracotta warriors, we're done with them. My Putonghua certainly needs some work, especially in regards to tones. But I'll worry about that.
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

A quick Google search indicates that I am not the only one who believes that “liberals” hate Sarah Palin! (Although this thread is No. 2 on Page One!)!A few excepts and citations:http://regularthoughts.blogspot.com/2008/09/why-they-hate-sarah-palin.html”Michelle Malkin has already named it. PDS: Palin Derangement Syndrome. It's the irrational hatred of Vice Presidential nominee Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, indulged until the intellect is shattered and only emotion reigns.”http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS46536+04-Sep-2008+PRN20080904”Richard Viguerie: Now We Know Why Liberals Hate, Fear Sarah Palin; 'Sarah Palin is the Next Ronald Reagan”Videos circulating on why liberals hate Sarah Palin:http://www.mylot.com/nr/viewframe.aspx?id=1141201&url=http%3a%2f%2fpoliticalpartypoop.com%2f2008%2f09%2f03%2f%25e2%2580%259ci-hate-sarah-palin%25e2%2580%259d-videos-circulating-on-liberal-blogs%2f&type=Blog” Sarah Palin is an urban liberal's worst nightmare: a successful, attractive, working class, conservative feminist.”http://www.crosscut.com/2008-election/17423/Sarah+Palin:+the+liberal+voter's+worst+nightmare/P.S.:I really like that “Palin Derangement Syndrome” thing!Almost made me inhale my coffee!
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Caught your Red Herring there, jerk_patrol and put it on ice in the hold!Thanks for the correction on the syndrome thing; that is a common error and I find it written both ways across the net, so again, thanks for your input.Now, you were writing what about why liberals hate Sarah Palin……??????
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beatrice (Anonymous) says…

And it goes on and on and on. Giving Marion a blog linked to the LJWorld is a true low for the organization.

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Potawatomi (Anonymous) says…

This is a good link if you are a registered voter: Funny yet truthful:http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/
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trinity (Anonymous) says…

good stuff potawatomi! :) something for the cynic in all us dreadlocked liberals, heheheeeeee…
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jonas_opines (Anonymous) says…

Marion: Ah, my mistake then. Referring to other people like Malkin who just made up everything that they talked about Is marginally different than making up things with your own brain-power, I will admit.
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Jonas, Give Marion a break, and stop wasting your time. Malkin is a graduate of Oberlin College, one of the best liberal arts schools in the country. I doubt Marion has more than a high school education. As Malkin has a national audiience, her lies are potentially dangerous. Marion, on the other hand, is merely another local oddity whose significance barely rises to the level of amusement and entertainment.
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jonas_opines (Anonymous) says…

sycophant: I can spend my time, of course, however I like, and if that's hounding Marion for following prey to vanity and the sound of his own voice (through the keys, of course) then I will. He wanted to play a game called “prove the ljworld leftist conspiracy,” and I'm having fun pointing out that he's just being irrational. Feel free to ignore me.But I agree with that last paragraph. (however, citing Malkin's education, of course, doesn't mean that she doesn't make up most of what she talks about)
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TheSychophant (Anonymous) says…

Hey jonas, you didn't owe me an explanation, nor was I dissing you. I guess my sarcasm was a little too subtle. Post on. Doesn't bother me a bit. I will offer one more obversation, however. You aparently suffer fools easier than I do. Perhaps a good thing. :):)

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tumbilweed (Anonymous) says…

yeah theyve got plenty of oil in akso the big fat republicans can keep on livin' theirbig fat lives at the expense of everyone else
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jonas_opines (Anonymous) says…

sycophant: Maybe a little too subtle, perhaps, we've not had many dealings with each other to date. My apologies. It's easier to suffer things that amuse you. >B^)>
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

And yet another of my fans sends me a message via the LJW messaging!:”Hello,The user george_nye sent the following message to you via LJWorld.com:==============================still posting lies and foxnews horses**t I see. You can not make me go away- I will haunt you forecer you sick mother fu**er.==============================Please do not reply to this e-mail message. To send george_nye a response, visit this Web page:http://www2.ljworld.com/users/george_nye/contact/
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beatrice (Anonymous) says…

What a laugh riot. Marion is getting his posts removed on his own blog story! LJWorld — You Need To Screen Your Bloggers More Carefully!
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

TheSychophant (Anonymous) says: Jonas,Give Marion a break, and stop wasting your time. Malkin is a graduate of Oberlin College, one of the best liberal arts schools in the country. I doubt Marion has more than a high school education.”Marion writes”Yaop, aint got no moren'n that diplomer thing whut they gave me at the hi skoolWaint up ther on the hil but thur wuz this girl see an she wuz onlee 16 and I wuz 17 an we ust to go at tha gaslight an some guy thur giv her some drugs an she dide so i figgered mabee i an do sumpthin keep some uther gurl frum din.I idnt figger that'uz right.I'z gonna keep her an stuffmaybe hav sum kids but she dide frum them thur drugs so i got in with the man an got to be a drug copWen aout an did sum busts an stuff on them thur druggies an faound out that it dint mak do differnce an the druggezz uz goona rool aniwaigot all shot up in some dam sentel amurican country an spent a munth in the hosipitel thur wuz a nice noorse an i had time to think so i decieded that puttin pepul in jail for whuts groin in the graound wuz sillywen back to skul in ninteenintyfiv but was takin caree of 3 kids whut wuz belong to my gurlfrend an she dint take kare of them so my skool went all to hail an I got thoze kids saint baick to thur reel daddy an them boyz kome up younitedstates mareeens but i hadda kwit skul what with takin kare of thoze kidz.That little gurl she done went bak to her daddy to and she dun great so farshe aint no w+++++++ lak her momma an she duin godAhont no..yep fer sher I caint be doin no gud enlish or spellin or nun o'that stuffkaint evun figger aout them kompooters……….
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Oooooooooooo…………………..I wonder what I wrote that got removed?Someone got wound up!I'll maybe check the file and let you know!
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situveux1 (Anonymous) says…

Am I the only one freaked out by the messages being sent to Marion?
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

situveux1 (Anonymous) says: Am I the only one freaked out by the messages being sent to Marion?”Marion writes:Thank you for your concern but that sort of thing happens with a fair degree of regularity.I'm accustomed to it.There are many more that I don't bother with but not all come in on the LJW messaging service.

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a_flock_of_jayhawks (Anonymous) says…

2 crazy good having a post removed off your own blog. Priceless!
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XEPCT (Anonymous) says…

It's refreshing when someone like teachandlearn cuts down Marion with the first salvo.
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tumbilweed (Anonymous) says…

“Why Marion Makes Commenting Suck” 1000 comments
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Now that we've added a few more Red Herrings to the upcoming fish fry, what about discussing why liberals hate Sarah Palin?I notice that the McCain/Palin ticket has pulled ahead in the polls today, 50% to the 46% of the Barack Obiden ticket:http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/08/mccain-leads-poll/Could these results be part of the reason why liberal hate Sarah Palin?
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dumas (Anonymous) says…

I don't hate Sarah Palin. I don't hate any of the decisions she's made. They've been the right decisions for her. But I don't agree with her viewpoint. I don't know when disagreeing with a person means that you hate them. That certainly seems like a slippery slope.
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tumbilweed (Anonymous) says…

p.s. thanks for posting a photo of yourself here so i'm sure to avoid you around town, loser.
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MacHeath (Anonymous) says…

no, no, no.Marion was never cool.It really makes me sick when I have to agree with him.Quite frankly, I have just glossed over all the posts, so I really don't have much of an idea what was discussed. I really can't stand to read them.Not all liberals hate Palin. Just the “elitists” that this town has in abundance. This meaning that if you dont agree with them on any issue, you are just plain stupid. I really have a big problem with folks like that. They claim to be “the people party”, but they really hate people with an opinion that differs from theirs.I am a swing-voter. One of the folks that is going to make a difference, in this election. I may vote for the GOP this time, mainly because Obama seems more of a “concept” than a person. And, its always fun to see the elitists, whine and moan.
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BABBOY (Anonymous) says…

Mr. Lynn clearly has issues with reality.I sure he has lots of issues deriving from a childhood full of trauma when normal kids did not accept his weird behavior and regularly made fun of him. No rational person trying to start a reasonable debate starts off a post like that Mr. Lynn did in this thread. Thus, I see no reason to be civil with him because civil is not what he wanted with this post.But, other then pointing out that is obvious that this guy Marion Lynn is a weirdo with issues who likes to try to satisfy them on the internet, I will not comment further or give this idiot any additional satisfaction by giving him enough recognition to otherwise debate the issue with him.I will not look at this thread again.

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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

My, my, Dr. Phil..er, uh…Babboy!This thread is relatively low-grade political rhetoric and lightweight compared to what is going to come in the real world campaign!It's gonna get very nasty out there in the smoky backrooms of the campaign planners, especially now that Barack Hussein Obama has fallen behind in the polls.It's been quite a while since this country saw a real Grade A down-and-dirty campaign but I think we're going to see one this time!You see, there is just too much at stake as I think the country is at a “tipping point” in its history; the choice between maintaining the Republic and moving into soicalism is the true decision which will be made in this election year, so it ain't going to be pretty.Babboy, if you cannot handle this thread, I'd suggest that you stay away from even the mainstream media as that media will be giving a blow-by-blow account of the events to come and no telling where this whole thing is going to go but it is gonna go to some dark places for sure!
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tumbilweed (Anonymous) says…

or flip you the bird!
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tumbilweed (Anonymous) says…

I think it's really funny when it is called into question whether someone can “handle this thread”. All this campaigning reminds me that above all, politicians have to be some of the most insecure people on the planet, and it amazes me to think that so many people think we need a “leader” and waste so much energy on this smoke and mirrors game.Politicians:”You need leaders!”People:”You're right, I need drama!”
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Wallythewalrus (Anonymous) says…

Speaker Nancy Pelosi has five children. No one has asked her to be a stay at home mother.
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tumbilweed (Anonymous) says…

But, offtotheright, I fear that most people fail to see the difference!
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slang4d (Anonymous) says…

That's absurd. I don't care if she's a woman and has five children. And why would anyone WANT someone else to get an abortion? It's about the freedom to choose, especially in extreme circumstances. She is anti-choice, she does not believe global warming is “man-made,” she wants creationism taught in schools, she apparently hates polar bears, believes in abstinence-only education, and she's shady as hell. She's an evangelical crazy and any informed voter will see through her America's favorite hockey mom facade and vote for the other party.
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tumbilweed (Anonymous) says…

logicsound04: hey don't group me with offtotheright, i am my own tumbilweed, commenting. i am trying to imagine a difference sailing over my head.the presidential election is just like american idolonly worse because they get to pick on each other during the season!
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towanda54 (Anonymous) says…

Wallythewalrus (Anonymous) says: Speaker Nancy Pelosi has five children. No one has asked her to be a stay at home mother.Pelosi's youngest child is 38 years old. It's hard to get them to stay home with you when they are that age. :~

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tumbilweed (Anonymous) says…

that's ok. just commenting on how much idol and the campaigns have in common…popularity contest, apparently swayed by the slightest breeze of the differences sailing over our heads. America with ADD?
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Phogfan86 (Anonymous) says…

I'd bet my house and car that Sarah Palin's into leather.
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tumbilweed (Anonymous) says…

Phogfan86–that might guarantee the nomination after “karaoke jam and evening wear” night. Tune in if you dare…American Presidential Idol.
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towanda54 (Anonymous) says…

Maybe John McSame should denounce a man divorcing his wife just because she became disabled (you know that for better for worse, in sickness and health stuff that make up the wedding vows). Maybe he should denounce shoving women in wheelchairs and raising his hand as if it to strike them. Sarah, please don't leave Trig with John McSame. He doesn't seem all the compassionate people with disabilities (his ex-wife, a woman in wheelchair, etc.)http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/51660.html
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tumbilweed (Anonymous) says…

should be run out of town, this hater named Marion Lynn….
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Hey, we're getting close to lynch mentality!Toldja this campaign was going to get nasty but at the same time, I must point out who is developing the lynch mob mentality and it ain't the McCain/Palin supporters!
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teachandlearn (Anonymous) says…

offtotheright (Anonymous) says: 'I also cannot understand why she would put her seventeen year old pregnant daughter in the position she has'What position? The position of being responsible for the child she conceived? The position of not committing murder?You mean that?Yeah that was it of course! No I meant putting her in the media spotlight! If she was so concerned about her family and what the media was going to say, maybe she should not put them in the media spotlight. More power to Bristol for keeping her baby. She is certainly isn't the first 17 year old to get pregnant and she certainly won't be the last. I was once 17 and pregnant and made the same choice she did. Does that make my mom qualified to be VP?
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teachandlearn (Anonymous) says…

invictus (Anonymous) says: I hope Obama doesn't do an “honor killing” on one of his daughters that would be embarrassing for the country. Hopefully he doesn't believe in that aspect of Muslim culture.Why would he? he is not muslim!!!!!!!!

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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…

Admit it, Marion… YOU'RE “Sarah Palin”.
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ReadingSports (Anonymous) says…

Tra, you might be onto something there.You know, I've never seen them together. Of course, I've never seen Marion either. Hey, wait a minute I have seen you and Obama together either. Maybe you're really the esteamed democratic nominee… You know I really didn't think Obama had a sense of humor, imagine my surprise!!!
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

I wonder if the old saying about the first words out of one's mouth in response to a situtation or question being the truth is correct?
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

TheSychophant (Anonymous) says: Marion, I have a question? Some earlier posts ….”Marion writes;TheSychophant (Anonymous), you sem to be rather good at reading questions posed to me “earlier” in this thread but do a very bad job of reading my replies which answer your questions as well as the questions of others.I suspect that your inuendo-loaded questions are merely eveidence of insanity; in that one of the definitions of insanity is repeating an action or actions (In this case, repeating a question or questions.) and expecting a different response; in this case a different answer or answers.You have your answers; they are not the answers you wanted, so you continue to ask the same old tired questions in slightly different ways, hoping for a different answer or answers; i.e., the answers that you want, not the answers as I have written them.Can you not handle the truth or are you merely intent on repeatedly filling the thread with Red Herrings?I must warn you, I've called up the sporting goods store and have accepted delivery of brand-new Red Herring nets and will be tossing the ones you have just surfaced into the hold to be put on ice!
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

TheSychophant (Anonymous) says: Have only seen questions, not answers. So are you a nazi, or arently you?”Marion writes;”arently”?English!Do you speak it?You certainly can't write it!You must have a very limited ability to read, TheSychophant (Anonymous), so I suggest that you find someone to read this thread to you aloud.Nd no; I am not a Nazi.Are you?That would explain you constant spamming of this board with your silly questions and I suspect that you are indeed a Nazi but most likley one of the Ernst Roehm tradition; you know, the one who liked all those smooth-skinned young boys in their lederhosen?What do you think, TheSycophant(Anonymous)?Am I on the mark here, or what?
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TheSychophant (Anonymous) says…

Actually, I happen to be Jewish. That's why I ask.

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designerscott (Anonymous) says…

This is crap. 'nuff said.
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OhHai (Anonymous) says…

Seriously? Really? What a hateful thing to say about Democrats. I can't think of ONE person, especially a Democrat, that would think such a horrible thing. Sarah Palin made a choice to carry the baby to full term. That was her CHOICE, and she had every right to make a decision that was right for her and her family. Wow, a CHOICE, what an amazing thing.
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OhHai (Anonymous) says…

Oops, didn't finish. I think what offends me is that she went back to work three days after having her child. Frankly, I think that speaks volumes. Even, I a vile and evil Democrat, spent 8 weeks at home with my newborn. And hows about her cutting funds for special needs children? Or unwed mothers?
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

TheSychophant (Anonymous) says: Actually, I happen to be Jewish. That's why I ask.”Marion writes:Good for you!I couldn't care less if you are Jewish, Methodist, Moonie or even a worshipper of The Great God Chrome, as long as you don't try to foist off your superstition on me!I happen to be a Seven-Day-A-Week Apathist and choose quite rationally to not participate in Bronze Age religions.I see that you have chosen wisely.Your username, I mean………………………From the Webster's Online Dictionary:sycophant Main Entry: sy*co*phant Pronunciation: -fÉnt also -&*&char114&*&fant\ Function: noun Etymology: Latin sycophanta slanderer, swindler, from Greek sykophantÄs slanderer, from sykon fig + phainein to show - more at fancy Date: 1575 : a servile self-seeking flatterer synonyms see : parasite Have a productive day!
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TheSychophant (Anonymous) says…

He still hasn't answered the question on whether he is reader or admirer of David Irving, which, doesn't surpirse me,. as people with his political bent are typically unmitigated cowards.
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

TheSychophant (Anonymous) says: He still hasn't answered the question on whether he is reader or admirer of David Irving, which, doesn't surpirse me,. as people with his political bent are typically unmitigated cowards.”Marion writes:TheSychophant (Anonymous and by Webster's a parasite), you are a liar and the information you claim has not been given is contained in this very thread.
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TheSychophant (Anonymous) says…

Ok, so you “respect much of the research and it is an historically significant volume of research”Truth of the matter is that all of Mr. Irving's so-called research has been for one purposea vain and demented attempt at convincing the world that the Holocaust never happened.” And you respect that? “Mr. Irving is responsible for the preservation of thousands of documents and interview which without him would be lost and which would never have occurred”What did he do. Find some old Nazi documents in a trash demister and place them in baggies? He may mention old documents in his “research,” but only becasue they have already been preserved by other historical entities and repositories. . “Mr, Irving is a brilliant historian, multi-lingual, an unstoppable rand effective researcher”So you believe a Holocaust Denier is “brilliant? “Effective researcher.?” If he is so effective, then why are his conclusions categorically rejected by mainstream historians? Thanks, Marion, yoiu answered my question. Seig Heil!!
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TheSychophant (Anonymous) says…

My, my invictus. So good to know that there are other “historians” on these boards. REad much David Irving lately?

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zzgoeb (Anonymous) says…

Hate is a strong word…maybe dislike her, yes, don't trust her, for sure, doubt she is unqaulified, for sure. How many women and mothers are NONE of what Marion described and would be more qualified,more brave and better leaders.
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jonas_opines (Anonymous) says…

“If he is so effective, then why are his conclusions categorically rejected by mainstream historians?”I'm sure it's the liberal bias of the mainstream media. Looks like your blog is still up, Marion. Guess you need to try harder next time.… . or admit that your hypothesis was incorrect.
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“TheSychophant (Anonymous) says: “Was he a narc, ie., a sworn and credentialed law enforcment officer, or a snitch. Hard to condemn a cop for doing his job, just because he was following the orders of his superiors. ; But gratituiosly snitching on people he knew, now thats something entirely different.”He might have been akin to a volunteer deputy who gets a badge…but he wasn't any type of K.B.I. staff. It was volunteerism.Irrespective, “…Hard to condemn a cop for doing his job, just because he was following the orders of his superiors….: So he was being a “…good German soldier…”? He helped to ruin the lives of mere reefer smokers, growers, and sellers. He was a narc….he wern't no “…agent…”: Just a willing snitch with a badge……
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Pogo has no idea what he/she/it is writing about. Why don't you detectives go to the old LJW files, way back into the hard copy or the microfilm?In the meantime, TheSychophant (Anonymous), since you claim to be Jewish, I'm wondering if you would comment on the chrages filed today agains the largets Kosher slaughterhouse in the nation; those charges having to do with…well…here is snippet:”des moines, Iowa (AP) — The owner and managers of the nation's largest kosher meatpacking plant were charged Tuesday with more than 9,000 misdemeanors alleging child labor law violations. The allegations are the first criminal charges against operators of the Agriprocessors plant in Postville, where nearly 400 illegal immigrants working at the facility were arrested in May in one of the largest single-site immigration raids in U.S. history.”“Each defendant … hired children, retained the employment of children observed working throughout the plant, and/or participated in efforts to conceal children when federal and state labor department officials inspected that plant,” the affidavit said.The more than 9,000 violations the state alleges fall into five categories: employing a child under age 18 in a meatpacking plant; employing a child under age 18 in an occupation that exposes the child to dangerous or poisonous chemicals; employing a child under age 16 who operated power machinery; employing a child under age 16 who worked during prohibited hours or more hours in a day than permitted by law; and employing a child under 16 who worked more days in a week than permitted by law.It said the company's records also show that employees were not paid for all overtime worked.”http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/09/09/slaughterhouse.child.labor.ap/index.htmlReads like a work camp of some kind to me but what do I know?
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blakus (Anonymous) says…

I am tired of this left vs. right crap. It is just what elitists want, the lower rungs of society debating over petty crap pushed by pundits. Issues become polarized when thinking left vs. right and lose all meaning in a real-world context. This country will go absolutely no where if this keeps up.
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

TheSychophant (Anonymous, By Webster's; parasite), what about this child slave labour in the Kosher slaughterhouse run by Agriprocessors ?Rabbis are present at all times during the Schechita in order to make certain that all food from such slaughter is obtained in accordance with the Kashrut, or “Kosher” in English.These Rabbis are paid by the slaughterhouse to be present and to enforce Kosher.Now since Agriprocessors employs illegal aliens and illegally employs children and if the charges are true, in near slave labour conditions, these questions must be asked; “What did the Rabbis know about these atrocities?”“When did the Rabbis know?”Did the Rabbis continue to work for this plant after becoming aware of these slave labour-like conditions and the employment of illegal aliens?”“If so, why?”“Did the Rabbis merely look the other way?”Or were the Rabbis only following orders?How did the supervising Rabbis handle the matter, do you suppose?
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TheSychophant (Anonymous) says…

Marion: You questions re: Agriprocessors, directed to me, simply because I happen to be Jewish, are akin to asking an African-American, simply because they are African American, to comment on the recent ouster and guilty plea of Detroit's Mayor, or for that matter any garden variety common criminal who only shares with the questionee a common race, religion, or culture. Another example is asking a woman to “defend” or comment upon Ramona Morgan just because they happen to be female. And by the way, I don't defend AGriprocessors and the Rubinski family that owns and operates it, just as I don't defend your Republican buddy, Jack Abramoff. Nor for that matter, do I have an warm feelings towards Joe LIeberman. Your questions and comments reveal you as an unmitigated and unreconstitued anti-Semitie, but then again, why should I be surprised, considering it comes from someone who “admires” David Irving as “brilliant” historian. Yeah, Seig Heil, you sc$mbag bigot. And in case you don't return to this thread, I am also pm'ing you a copy.
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

The user TheSychophant sent the following message to you via LJWorld.com:==============================Marion: You questions re: Agriprocessors, directed to me, simply because I happen to be Jewish, are akin to asking an African-American, simply because they are African American, to comment on the recent ouster and guilty plea of Detroit's Mayor, or for that matter any garden variety common criminal who only shares with the questionee a common race, religion, or culture. Another example is asking a woman to “defend” or comment upon Ramona Morgan just because they happen to be female. And by the way, I don't defend AGriprocessors and the Rubinski family that owns and operates it, just as I don't defend your Republican buddy, Jack Abramoff. Nor for that matter, do I have an warm feelings towards Joe LIeberman. Your questions and comments reveal you as an unmitigated and unreconstitued anti-Semitie, but then again, why should I be surprised, considering it comes from someone who “admires” David Irving as “brilliant” historian. Yeah, Seig Heil, you sc$mbag bigot. And in case you don't return to this thread, I am also pm'ing you a copy.==============================Please do not reply to this e-mail message. To send TheSychophant a response, visit this Web page:http://www2.ljworld.com/users/TheSychophant/contact/

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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

TheSychophant (Anonymous; According to Webster's; parasite) :There is nothing “Anti-Semitic” in what I have written; it only makes sense to ask a memeber of a specific religious, political or etnic group to comment on events which emante from or directly affect that group.Jessee Jackson does it all the time.Your responses are predictable,laughable and you respond faster and even more predictably than one of Pavlov's dogs and I rang your bell!Now, TheSychophant (Anonymous; According to Webster's; parasite), you see, your problem is that you think that you can throw all the below-the-belt punches that you want and get away with it.Well, you can't and you reacted precisely in the manner that I suspected you would; it didn't occur to you that you were being thrown a feint?Of course it didn't but you have learned one thing and that is that if you hit me, I will hit you back twice as hard and where it hurts.Kinda like this once lost group of people now residing in a part of the great Middle-Eastern desert.By the way, since there are now over 9,300 charges against Agriprocessors, where were the overseeing Rabbis, anyway?I thought that participating in what is essentially slave labour was against Torah law?Just thought that since you have professed to be Jewish that you might shed a little light on the matter but I guess not.In the meantime, Liberals have yet another reason to hate Sarah Palin………..the McCain/Palin ticket has passed the Obamination in the polls!”A substantial shift in the vote preference among independents has given John McCain a slim lead over Barack Obama after the Republican convention. Independents now break for McCain by 15 percentage points (46 percent to 31 percent) in a FOX News poll released Wednesday.Last month, Obama had a one-point edge among independents (August 19-20, 2008).Overall, McCain leads Obama by 45 percent to 42.”http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,420361,00.html
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

TheSychophant (Anonymous; According to Webster's; parasite) :Would you please opine for us as to the appropriateness of this Jewish guy commenting on this Black guy and let us know if the Jewish guy is being “racist”?http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/51139-barack-obama-as-angry-black-manI mean, what with your suggestion about members of individual religious, ethnic and political groups commenting on actions of members of those groups, I'm now a bit confused as to what is Kosher and what isn't!
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TheSychophant (Anonymous) says…

Marion, I don't debate Nazis. I defend myself against them. Go away, you nazi scum.
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tom_bodett (Anonymous) says…

Nazis….lol. Morons.
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tom_bodett (Anonymous) says…

Keep it coming marion…good article!!Whats Obama's middle name??? lol
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tvc (Anonymous) says…

Don't feed Marion!
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

TheSychophant (Anonymous; According to Webster's; parasite) is just way to easy, 'cause he has his “Anti-Semitic” button hangin' right out there to be readily pushed by anyone walking past.See, there is nothing Anti-Semitic in my posts but I knew that TheSychophant (Anonymous; According to Webster's; parasite) would see it that way and flip out, which of course, he/she/it has.As a defender of Israel, its continued US support and a believer in the right of Israel to exist, I would find it rather odd for me be “Anti-Semitic”, wouldn't you?
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TheSychophant (Anonymous) says…

I momentarily withdraw my abandonment of “debating a Nazi'Marion wrote: “it only makes sense to ask a member of a specific religious, political or ethnic group to comment on events which emante [sic]' from or directly affect that group”So, the criminal acts of a few multimillionaire businessmen in Postville, Iowa “emanate” from the Jewish “group.” Marion the dishonest and nasty inference you seek to draw is clear: A family of millionaires (by the way, very politically conservative and right-wing Orthodox Jews clearly outside the mainstream of worldwide Judaism) are allegedly dishonest crooks who, in your own words, run “work camps.” Therefore, all Jews are cheats, crooks and cruel. Apparently, you reading list is not limited to David Irving, but his progeny as well—i.e. your dear fuhrer Adolph and sidekick Goebbels—who argued that since a few Jews happened to communists, all Jews were communists, and were the cause of Germany's post WWI failures. We all know the end result of that viscous slander. And how the hell do allegations (probably true) against one company “affect all Jews.” For two thousand years anti-Semites have been inciting violence and hatred against Jews by slander, the “big lie”, outright lies, false statements, dishonest innuendo, intellectual dishonesty, etc. You continue in that medieval, backward, bizarre, warped and anti-American tradition.”One last question, Marion? Who is your favorite nazi?

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Ron Paul Rejects McCain Republican Rep. Ron Paul, the libertarian-leaning Texas lawmaker who attracted a devoted following in the GOP primaries, said Wednesday he rejected an appeal to endorse John McCain's presidential bid.Paul said the request came from Phil Gramm, the former McCain adviser and ex-senator whom the campaign jettisoned after he said the country was a “nation of whiners” about the economy. Gramm defeated Paul in the Republican primary for the Senate in 1984.
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

TheSychophant (Anonymous; According to Webster's; parasite) wrote:”So, the criminal acts of a few multimillionaire businessmen in Postville, Iowa “emanate” from the Jewish “group.” Marion the dishonest and nasty inference you seek to draw is clear: A family of millionaires (by the way, very politically conservative and right-wing Orthodox Jews clearly outside the mainstream of worldwide Judaism) are allegedly dishonest crooks who, in your own words, run “work camps.” Therefore, all Jews are cheats, crooks and cruel.”Marion writes:I did not write or imply “all Jews are cheats, crooks and cruel.”; I simply asked you to comment based on your knowledge of Judaism.Now you have indeed commented but added your spin.TheSychophant (Anonymous; According to Webster's; parasite) wrote:”And how the hell do allegations (probably true) against one company “affect all Jews.”Marion writes:I never wrote that they do “affect all Jews.”, so stop making up quotations.And by the way, TheSychophant (Anonymous; According to Webster's; parasite)…………you've been had and quite nicely if I may say so myself!Totally pwned.
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TheSychophant (Anonymous) says…

Marion wrote: ” I never wrote that they do “affect all Jews.”, so stop making up quotations”Hey nazi boy, I hate to burst your bubble, but you don't lie as well as your buddy Adolph. Never said that they “affect all Jews????This is precisely what you said, and meant, unless you're the Mad Hatter: And I quote you: “it only makes sense to ask a member of a specific religious, political or ethnic group to comment on events which emante [sic]' from or directly affect that group”And yet me remind you, that quote was set forth word-for-word in my prior missive which you vainly and pathetically failed to rebut. You are an absolute moron, jackass, idiot, liar, imbecile,. etc etc etc. (besides being a jackboot licking contemporary nazi) You don't deserve to live in America. Might I suggest you seek refuge with the Taliban. And by the way, I hereby reinstate my policy of refusing to humor or debate nazis and similar slime. Not only it is a waste of my time, but you've have now been revealed for the puke that sloshes through your demented and sick mind.
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Blakus Says,”I am tired of this left vs. right crap. It is just what elitists want, the lower rungs of society debating over petty crap pushed by pundits. Issues become polarized when thinking left vs. right and lose all meaning in a real-world context. This country will go absolutely no where if this keeps up.”I could not agree more. I am sick of this crap too. If I might add something else I see: political filters and blinders. It seems like any event or idea coming in goes thru some kind of category filter. After it passes thru, it can be only one of two things…liberal or conservative. There is no other possible category. Depending on your preference, one is good while the other is evil. You cannot disagree with some viewpoint. You must “hate” it.And people also got blinders on. The right has got them on the left side of there faces so they cannot possibly even consider an opposing viewpoint. The left has got them propped on the right side.All of this is the most bereft and lowest common denominator nonsense it makes me sick. This country is in terrible shape if it's people continue to resort to this stupidity. Why can't anybody think for themselves anymore. Right now all I can compare it to is a guitar player locked into two chords and cannot play nothing else. The music gets tired and boring pretty quick.
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

My, my, aren't we special?TheSychophant (Anonymous; According to Webster's; parasite), if you are going to quote me, please quote me; do not make up phrases and then attribute them to me….I did not write “affect all Jews:!I wrote a general statement, not directed towards a specific group, which you, TheSychophant (Anonymous; According to Webster's; parasite), even went so far as to reprint!And I quote myself from the original post(complete with typos!):”:There is nothing “Anti-Semitic” in what I have written; it only makes sense to ask a memeber of a specific religious, political or etnic group to comment on events which emante from or directly affect that group.”The only thing which can be construed in that paragraph as having to do with Jews is this part of it:”There is nothing “Anti-Semitic” in what I have written…”And there is nothing Anti-Semitic in the post or the reference; the Anti-Semitism exists only in you overly sensitised mind and you popped out, pretty much as I expected you to do.See, right now I'm sitting back, having a drink and eating popcorn, watching you spin and you are spinning, for sure!Did I set you up?I sure did.Why?Because I am tired of the attacks on my person by you and others; it was by accident, your day in the barrel.How did I do it?I found, quite by accident the article on a news service about the Kosher slaughterhouse and said to myself, “Yep; there it is! Just what I need to spin out this guy because I already know where he will go with it and it should be good for some kicks and giggles!”And you went exactly where I thought you would go and you are spinning like a dreidel on steroids!Don't like it when the tables are turned, do you?I also intentionally left out the link to the story just for effect but here it is now but before thte link; from the article:”The actions of this company have brought shame upon the entire Jewish community,” the commission said. “Yesterday's discovery, along with the other violations of the ethical standards set forth by our Torah and our tradition underscore the need for Hekhsher Tzedek. To be sure, Halacha has never limited its concern to the ritual elements of Kashrut alone.” http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellit… you see, you have chosen to distance yourself from the plant operators, describing them as “conservative”!LOL !And La-Dee- Da!It might interest you to know that most of my employment history in the private sector was with Jewish family-owned companies; Burstein-Applebee, McGee Radio, Albert Bell's and a couple of others, going back to my teens when I was a Shabbas Goy, so go accuse some one else of being “Anti-Semitic'!Have a happy spin!
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beatrice (Anonymous) says…

It is remarkably sad that Marion has responded to his own blog more often than anyone else.LJWorld — flush already.
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

beatrice (Anonymous) says: It is remarkably sad that Marion has responded to his own blog more often than anyone else.”Marion writes:Beatrice, I think that it is remarkable sad that you post on this blog at all.
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TopJayhawk (Anonymous) says…

John Brown.I think the real question you should ask is: Are the bloggers where I am getting my info telling the truth? Every unseemly concern by these bloggers has been pretty much been debunked. And as to telling the truth, how am I to know when Gas-bag Joe, or Barry are telling the truth?

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TopJayhawk (Anonymous) says…

It is a fact, reported by your beloved CNN. That Palin in fact never advocated teaching creationism in schools. She only said she thought that if students wanted to debate the issue, that should be allowed. It is also reported on CNN that Palin never asked for any books to be banned. If you refer to the “list” that liberal bloggers are passing around. It has the first four “Harry Poter” books on them. These books weren't even in print when this incident supposedly took place.The jet was put on ebay, but did not sell on ebay. they had to use a plane-broker. It did sell, but for a loss. The Governor who purchased the plane paid quite a bit more for it than it was worth. Sweetheart deal by the previous Governor?These are facts as reported by CNN, hardly a conservative mouthpiece. And they have written documentation to back it up. Any other silly untruths that need to be debunked?HMMMM?
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snap_pop_no_crackle (Anonymous) says…

After his own stinking pit of a 'forum' failed, girlfriend has to post somewhere……
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LloydDobbler (Anonymous) says…

It is inaccurate to mention hate and liberals in reference to Palin. We have gotten way off track in this country when elections pit one party against the other in a Texas death match. It's not about hate and it's certainly not about liberals and I will prove it with the following single issue…no social issues, no tax policy, no gun rights but a real burning issue that effects all of us.It is highly probable that Putin and other less than pro-American leaders in the world will take an agressive stance on something that we don't necessarily think is correct. We know that McCain has a tendency towards military action and now we also know that Palin has those same tendencies based on the fact that she mentioned war with Russia round-aboutly in her lone interview. We don't need war-mongering. Even if you forgive the moral wrongness of this stance, we are physically no longer in a position to “go for the gun first” particularly when it is not fully justified. All but the dumbest of Americans understand that what is needed right now is a progressive foreign policy stance, not sabre rattling. We are running out of leverage. We use to use moral standing, diplomacy, economic considerations, sanctions, and military force, in that order, as a method of looking out for our best interests. We no longer have a moral standing, no evident diplomatic ability, a sagging economy, and a tired, under staffed military. It's time we all wake up from our post-9/11 fog and re-claim our leadership in the world with the time tested tools of intelligence, innovation, courage, compassion and leadership.The McCain/Palin approach, to the extent that it has been explained to the electorate, is wrong-headed, dangerous, and likely to cost us for generations. It's not about hate, it's about ability and McCain/Palin ain't it!
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…

So, has anyone answered the question as to why Marion hates Sarah Palin?
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matahari (Anonymous) says…

http://stevegoodie.com/indeximthinkin…
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

I rather like this one, published today:”Who Hates Sarah Palin?Wednesday, September 10, 2008By Greg GutfeldAccording to many in the media, we truly have discovered someone worse than Hitler - and it's Sarah Palin.Head to any left-wing blog or even CNN for that matter and you'll find the zaniest of conspiracies — froth that even a dude with rabies would find unseemly.So how can one person create so much bile among folks who claim to be the most tolerant in the universe? I mean, liberals are the good people: They're open-minded, caring and of course, fair.But somehow, a Republican lady in her 40s is exempt from this treatment. Perhaps, she truly is the devil in a dress, a ghoul that eats children and pollutes the planet and possibly beats Barack Obama, the patron saint of every customer buying wheat germ in bulk at GNC.But I know the real reason why every single elitist media type is terrified of her. They've never met her. And by “her,” I don't mean Sarah Palin. I mean “her”, an actual normal woman with a bunch of kids, an average husband and no desire to watch “The L Word.”She's scary to these folks the way Wal-Mart is scary to them: Both are alien to someone who blogs about their chakras. They won't go there, because they've never been there.To them, hating Sarah Palin is a symptom of larger bigotry against the rest of us, the normal. If they saw her at a party, they would wonder how she got in. She's the anti-Obama, the anti-New York Times, the anti-everything that Tim Robbins loves, which is why I love her - and you should too.And if you disagree with me, then you sir are worse than Hitler.”http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,420161,00.html
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

TheSychophant (Anonymous; According to Webster's; parasite), sent me the following messages via the LJW messaging sytem:”Hello,The user TheSychophant sent the following message to you via LJWorld.comMarion, Recent information leads me to conclude that you are no more a Nazi than is Normal Finkelstein. I am sure you've heard of him—son of Holocaust survivors turned Holocaust revisionist. By virtue of this paradox, he is viewed as a self-hating Jew. Like Finkelstein, you seek to minimize the Holocaust. And like he, you, too, appear to to be a victim of Nazi philosophy. You are not Jewish. But I surmise you are a homosexual. And there's nothing wrong with that. But you shouldn't hate yourself. No, I am not outing you, but your sexual orientation was a fairly easy guess: Williams S. Burroughs, the notorious tortured homosexual turned heroin addict whom you used to quote as part of your signature, and whom You publically praise. Which, of course, explains your alias of Nick Danger. Which, of course, explains your relationship with “business partner” Ben. And while I understand your practice of creating fictional identities to “ditto” your posts, you need to be a little more careful. Remember 'jeremyhay” the Brit turned Hamburg resident, and “fan of Lawrence.” Marion, your fraud was transparent. Nonetheless, You did a nice job recycling him. . Okay, You created him to bolster your revisionist theories on the bombing of Hamburg. How convenient that a former Brit living in Hamburg for ten years with no reason to even peruse the LJW, would Ã¢â Åcome out of the wood work,Ã¢â Â register with the LJW, and write a missive seconding your Holocaust revisionist theories. . But after he's no longer necessary to “bolster” your bulls**t on the holocaust, you put him on the shelf, and thereafter revived him from the dead to author his post praising one your old adversaries Pywacket, about his views on bees. Come now. How absurd. Your motives are transparent. Coddling up to Pywacket's and otherwise attempting to gain his confidence in order to ascdsrtain his true identify so You can stalk him in your typical fashion. Attempted like a true conman. You can fool a lot of people, but not me. I am too fricking smart for you. Please do not reply to this e-mail message. To send TheSychophant a response, visit this Web page:http://www2.ljworld.com/users/TheSychophant/contact/”Next: (cont'd)/
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

cont'd:”Hello,The user TheSychophant sent the following message to you via LJWorld.com:=====And of course, Jeremy Hay is the name of a fairly prominent east coast gay glam rocker. Coincidental? Probably not. I surmise as a homosexual, You are one of his fans. Funny that you live (or used to recently live) with your elderly mother. Too ashamed to live your gay lover? DonÃ¢â /¢t be. Many heterosexuals understand that is simply the way you are wiredFunny that you have made numerous posts attacking the religious right re: their backward attitude towards gays. Again, something a garden variety right winger is not apt to do, unless we, and you, acknowledge your homosexuality, and then, of course, it is very understandable. By the way, did you create the fictional poster wittman to hid the fact that you are gay? Very sad and pathetic that you, a homosexual, would write such vile homophobic, anti-Semitic and racist stuff. But understandable and entirely consistent with a self-hater. I urge you to seek professional help. Perhaps you can eventually come out of the closet, which might be the right medicine for your troubled psyche. One final note. Before you attempt to stalk me like you have done with others, please realize that I am talented beyond our wildest dreams, and will stick the proverbial and figurative boot up your ass in response. Practice safe sex ,and again, please seek help.By the way, several years ago a KU student formed a Ã¢â Åfag busterÃ¢â Â hate drive against gays. Ends up he was gay himself. Very tragic and sad, this self-hating phenomena.==Please do not reply to this e-mail message. To send TheSychophant a response, visit this Web page:http://www2.ljworld.com/users/TheSychophant/contact”

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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

My Goodness!My Guiness!http://www.adme.ru/img/news/21135/MyGoodnessMyGuiness.jpgThe Looney Left in the form of stoops to previously unrecorded lows!oh waiti expected nothing less from TheSychophant (Anonymous; According to Webster's; parasite)!TheSychophant (Anonymous; According to Webster's; parasite) still ain't figgered out that I like girls; long, lean and mean; blonde, blue and true.Now TheSychophant (Anonymous; According to Webster's; parasite) is going to call me a Nazi 'cause I like blondes.Bad news……………………….I also like:(1) Redheads.(2) Brunettes(3) Raven haired beauties.(4) Auburn-haired gals.oh waitlet me shorten up this whole thingi like girlsBawhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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TheSychophant (Anonymous) says…

Marion, It was not my intention to “out” you as a homosexual. Instead, I was hoping that my missive might precipate a bit of self inquiry, and perhaps convince you to seek help . If indeed you are gay, as I suspect, and as others have from time to time faintly implied, your public posting of my private message to you is commendable. It is not uncommon for gays in your age group to have a damaged psyche because of the unwarranted and ugly hate heaped upon gays while you were growing up. While things ahve gotten a lot better, thanks, in part, to the Gay Pride movement, we have a long way to go. And, if there is any backlash to your self=outing, please let us know. While most of us may disagree with your tortured and warped political viewpoints, we have nothing against your sexual orienation, and will stand with you against any homophobic attcks. IMHO, the attraction gays feel towards their same sex is as normal as the feeling heterosexuals have towards the opposite sex. After all, “God” created each and every one of us as unique beings. May you find strength in your recovery. Best wishes.
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TheSychophant (Anonymous) says…

And by the way, Maron, I suggest you study the tragic life of Roy Cohen, as closeted gay, who vehemently denied his sexual orientation until; his very last breath, and in doing so, denied his very being. Most Gay people, I understand, feel “liberated” and freed upon “coming out.” I am sure many therapists, as well as caring and couragous members of the gay community, are willing to offer you their empathic assistance. In the final analysis, your sexual orientation is relevant only to the extent that you cease being ashamed of yourself. There is no shame in loving another human being, regardless of their gender. MOst of us don't care about your private sexual life. But we do care about your warped political views, especially your admiration of David Irving and others. While rare, there are some beautiful stories of neo-Nazi rehabilitation through courage, self-introspection, and assistance from the many enlightened people of the world who have infinite faith in the the hope and promise of humanity. The human psyche, by its very nature, is subject to profound damage caused, tragically, by the collective hand of humanity. But please realize that same human psyche is capable of profound liberation and self-actualization by seeking and knowing the inherent potential for goodness in all of us. Please, give it a try.
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…

“… froth that even a dude with rabies would find unseemly.”Marion… he's talkin' about you..;-D( Let me refill that water bowl for ya, big fella…. )
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

And while we're at it………….I miss you………..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F-nt7aC_JQ&feature=user
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Roy Cohen?You mean RFK's buddy?LOL!
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Beth:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Smeyf8nhM5Q
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Beth, do you remember when?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxOElxPD5bM

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TheSychophant (Anonymous) says…

Roy Cohen? You mean RFK's buddy?LOL!________________________An incorrect description. Yes, they worked together briefly, but shared a mutual and profound disdain for each other. Joe McCarthy's buddy is more like it.
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Hey, Baby!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB_Vu1DjDU8
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Beth:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztHORpRlLM0&feature=related
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Do you people think tha I give the slightest rat's pattootie what goes on in Lawrence, Kansas?My town of choice has gone to Hell in a handbasket.You guys and gals deal with it.
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TheSychophant (Anonymous) says…

Okay, all, now that Marion has been counseled, further responses to his posts will only serve as further enablement. Lets have some empathy. While his traumatic life experiences do not justify his hate, lets have some empathy. Leave him alone and perhaps the lack of attention will cause him to “hit bottom” and thereafter seek help.
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

TheSychophant (Anonymous; According to Webster's; parasite) :Show the Gentle Readers wherein I have written “hate”.
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

And now, according to TheSychophant (Anonymous; According to Webster's; parasite), I gotta be some kind of closet f*g.TheSychophant (Anonymous; According to Webster's; parasite), has no idea what he/she/it has done.
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…

,;-DOK… saw the interview… can't hate Sarah Palin… tho' can't see her in a national leadership role, either.When were all the *leaders* in this country replaced with scripted automatons pandering to pseudo-public opinion?

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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

TheSychophant (Anonymous; According to Webster's; parasite) is so disorded that it has has as its last and only recourse, the acusation of homosexualaity.The Nazis did that sort of thing.oh waitTheSychophant (Anonymous; According to Webster's; parasite), claims to be Jewish.Is it possible or even likely that TheSychophant (Anonymous; According to Webster's; parasite), suports some of the agenda of the Nazis?The Nazis got a long way accusing folks of being homosexual.TheSychophant (Anonymous; According to Webster's; parasite), accuses me of being homosexual. (Which I am clearly not but if I was, it would be OK)How is TheSychophant (Anonymous; According to Webster's; parasite), from the Nazi propagandists?
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Confrontation (Anonymous) says…

You can tell the quality of a newspaper by who they let blog. The LJ-World is at the bottom.
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Well, I think that it is time for some comedy relief, so here's what we'll do………………………….I think that we need a caricature of the Sycophant, so get your thinking caps on and get creative!I'm going to do the Sycophant Cartoon Contest, subject to the following………………………….You guys and gals with Photoshop or other similar programs get busy and those hard paper artists, fire up your scanners!Now we don't know if the Sycophant is short or tall, fat or skinny or just plain old medum, so there is lots of room for creativity here!We need a good cartoon of the Sychophant and to get you motivated, the prizes are as follows:(1) First Place, a $100 Gas Card useable almost anyplace.(2) Second Place, a $50 Gas Card.(3) Third Place, a $25 Gas Card.Now you can send you caricature and please zip or rar it up, so that it actually goes through, to this email addy:sickophantcartooncontest @ gmail . comWe won't share your email with anyone and you really should be 18, so if you are an underage artist with an interest, get someone over 18 to send in your entry for you!We don't want your name or address but if you use a throwaway email addy, don't throw it away until after the winners are announced, at which time we'll need a mailing addy to send you your prize! Use your uncle's address in Cleveland; we don't care, as long as we can get the prize to you!We have a panel of three judges in place and the decisions of the judges will be final, regardless of how much they may or may not have had to drink prior to the judging of the entries.Contest rules are whatever we say they are and subject to change on a moment's notice.Now there are a couple of hard and fast rules here, so listen up!Sycophant claims to be Jewish, so no yarmulkas, no images of the Torah, no prayer shawls and not Stars of David may appear in the caricature. We don't want the Sycophant going off on another “Anti-Semitic” tizzy! We would make the same caveat if Sycophant were a Methodist or a Moonie, so don't get started.ohAnd no nekkid people and no private body parts may appear uncovered; after all, this is a family show!Anyway, find your funny bones and get started!Gas ain't gettin' no cheaper!
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Katara (Anonymous) says…

Marion Lynn (Marion Lynn) says:Do you people think tha I give the slightest rat's pattootie what goes on in Lawrence, Kansas?My town of choice has gone to Hell in a handbasket.You guys and gals deal with it.~~~Sure, Marion. Because people who don't care at all regularly write blogs on the local newspaper of said town. Or have 12,000+ posts on that town's newspaper's website.
14 September 2008
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zzgoeb (Anonymous) says…

Marion simply needs to turn of the computer, go outside, find the nearest homeless shelter and help those in need, as the young rabbi said on the mount…the rest of the posting is simply what we used to call “a waste of bandwidth”…
14 September 2008
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Katara (Anonymous) says: Marion Lynn (Marion Lynn) says:Do you people think tha I give the slightest rat's pattootie what goes on in Lawrence, Kansas?My town of choice has gone to Hell in a handbasket.You guys and gals deal with it.~~~Sure, Marion. Because people who don't care at all regularly write blogs on the local newspaper of said town. Or have 12,000+ posts on that town's newspaper's website.”Marion writes:Objectivity sets you free.++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++zzgoeb (Anonymous) says: Marion simply needs to turn of the computer, go outside, find the nearest homeless shelter and help those in need, as the young rabbi said on the mount:the rest of the posting is simply what we used to call “a waste of bandwidth”:”Marion writes:And to which “young rabbi” do you refer?Anyway, I lump rabbis in with preachers, priests, evangelists, pastors, reverends anda shamans of all kinds as merely those intent on control and bringing their own “word” to people who are happier than they are.Such people are directly responsible for more torture, suffering, disease, war, death and destruction than any single political philosophy or political party.The day that humankind gets past superstition will be the “tipping point” in hits history; free to move forward without the restriction of the big business of religion.Probably won't happen but we can always hope!By the way, yet another reason that liberals hate Sarah Palin is that as McCain/Palin ticket increases its lead in the polls over the Obamination, so go the house races as well:http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/14/rise-of-mccain-in-polls-accompanied-by-shift-in-house-races/
15 September 2008
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lexkamikaze (Lex Sova) says…

yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah…no.
15 September 2008
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…

So,doliberalsstillhateSarahPalin? zzzzzzzz…

16 September 2008
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1029 (Anonymous) says…

Liberals hate Sarah Palin because liberals value intelligence and Sarah Palin is an idiot. Seriously people, think. Alaska is one of the most right-leaning states in the country. Any one of you could move up there and run for mayor of a small town as a republican. Since the people will vote for a republican for governor anyway, you may as well continue your mission of personal achievement and run for governor. Hmm..what's next? In order to continue ladder-climbing, you could turn on your party, be labeled a “reformer” or “maverick” and then maybe get to run for vice president the next time the republicans need a token candidate to disguise a pathetic platform. McCain's a good guy, but anyone who supports him for president is simply an enemy of American society. Some support McCain out of blind-party-loyalty. They come from families that always vote republican and unfortunately never had the educational opportunity to provide them with the mental capacity needed to make their own informed, rational decisions. Some succumb to their racism and simply cannot ever vote for a black man for president. Some hate society and thus love to hate the person who they see as being favored by popular society. A few are wealthy and money hungry and want to eliminate as many barriers as possible to their greedy pursuit of wealth. Others have a perverse facination with seeing how detrimental the republican ideology can be to a continuously evolving society and love to see the United States hated by the rest of the world. The rest are just simpletons who will vote for McCain only because he is a POW American hero with experience. McCain supporters should be insulted that he chose Palin. In doing so, he was banking on the fact that enough Americans would be too stupid to see anything other than a supposedly good-looking (?) “hockey mom” who “kills her own food”. Women in particular should feel insulted, because this was aimed at them. The idea was that women are so stupid that they'll vote for a woman no matter what she stands for or how intelligent and qualified she is. There's really no way to be nice about it. McCain/Palin supporters either hate America, or some element of it, or are just plain undereducated, ignorant morons.
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16 September 2008
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Liberals hate Sarah Palin because she is telling the so-called “investigators” , backed up by Barack H.Obama's team of thirty lawyers, to go fly a kite.From the citation:”Democrats understand Sarah Palin is a formidable political force who has upset the Obama victory plan. The latest Washington Post/ABC Poll shows John McCain taking a 12-point lead over Barack Obama among white women, a reversal of Mr. Obama's eight-point lead last month. It's no surprise, then, that Democrats have airdropped a mini-army of 30 lawyers, investigators and opposition researchers into Anchorage, the state capital Juneau and Mrs. Palin's hometown of Wasilla to dig into her record and background. My sources report the first wave arrived in Anchorage less than 24 hours after John McCain selected her on August 29.”http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122098190668515511.html?mod=opinion_journal_political_diary
16 September 2008
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…

1029: “McCain's a good guy, but anyone who supports him for president is simply an enemy of American society.”Whoa, 1029, you have just redeemed yourself, with kudos. 1029: “McCain… was banking on the fact that enough Americans would be too stupid to see….”Well, it has been an effective 21st-century political strategy, has it not. Republicans do seem to have a knack for tapping increasingly *challenged* segments of society, much to their subsequent detriment.( Rumor has it, though, that some of them got a nice flag. )
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Godot (Anonymous) says…

NOW's endorsement of Obama based on McCain's choice of Palin as his VP validates my choice to distance myself from women's organizations, particularly NOW and the University Women's association. Years and years ago, when I was recruited to join, and attended their meetings, I realized they were not about the rights of all women - they were only about the rights of women who were willing to act out the role of victim, who were more interested in blaming men for their situation in life than they were in blazing their own paths.NOW and liberal academic women hate Sarah Palin because she has met with success without portraying herself as a victim, without hating men, in general, but, rather, by confronting, challenging and taking down corrupt individuals who happened to be men. The fact that Sarah is unabashedly attractive is just another burr under the saddle of the average member of NOW,I am so happy to see the die hard members of NOW exposed for the selfish, shortsighted and small people they are. If I could exact vengeance for the negative influence NOW has had on my life, it would be the election of Sarah Palin to be the first female VP of the United States.
16 September 2008
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Godot:Nice post!Wow!
16 September 2008
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…

Godot: “NOW and liberal academic women hate Sarah Palin because she has met with success without portraying herself as a victim, without hating men, in general….”“She's a *man*, baby.”
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Godot (Anonymous) says…

Thank you, Marion.

16 September 2008
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Yet another reason why liberals hate Sarah Palin:”juneau, Alaska - Alaska's attorney general says state employees subpoenaed in the investigation of Gov. Sarah Palin will not testify.In a letter to the Democratic state senator overseeing the investigation, Attorney General Talis Colberg asks that the subpoenas be withdrawn. He also says the employees will not appear before the investigator unless either the full state Senate or the entire Alaska Legislature votes to compel their testimony.Last week, a committee of lawmakers issued subpoenas for 13 people, including Todd Palin, the governor's husband, in the investigation of whether the governor fired her public safety chief for refusing to dismiss her former brother-in-law, an Alaska State Trooper.All those summoned are state employees, except Todd Palin.”http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/16/alaska-ag-says-no-to-subpoenas/
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Still another reason why liberals hate Sarah Palin and why their unrestrained and irrational hatred is increasing:”September 17, 2008Prominent Clinton backer and DNC member to endorse McCain”” washington (cnn) - Lynn Forester de Rothschild, a prominent Hillary Clinton supporter and member of the Democratic National Committee's Platform Committee, will endorse John McCain for president on Wednesday, her spokesman tells CNN.The announcement will take place at a news conference on Capitol Hill, just blocks away from the DNC headquarters. Forester will “campaign and help him through the election,” the spokesman said of her plans to help the Republican presidential nominee.Forester was a major donor for Clinton earning her the title as a Hillraiser for helping to raise at least $100,000 for the New York Democratic senator's failed presidential bid.In an interview with CNN this summer, Forester did not hide her distaste for eventual Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama.”This is a hard decision for me personally because frankly I don't like him,” she said of Obama in an interview with CNN's Joe Johns. “I feel like he is an elitist. I feel like he has not given me reason to trust him.”Forester is the CEO of EL Rothschild, a holding company with businesses around the world. She is married to international banker Sir Evelyn de Rothschild. Forester is a member of the DNC's Democrats Abroad chapter and splits her time living in London and New York.”http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/And the hits just keep on coming!
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kusp8 (Anonymous) says…

I don't like her because she can't do several things…I've listed in order of most to least important:1. She can't fight Chuck Norris2. She can't extinguish the fire that has been on top of Matt Kleinnman's head for 21+ years3. She can't magically fix the potholes that plague Lawrence roads4. She can't magically eliminate the existence of round-abouts5. She can't yell like Bill O'Reilly6. She can't talk without me wanting to press mute and hope the channel has closed captioning because of her terrible accent7. She can't ball it up with Obama8. She can't be creative with her e-mail account passwords9. She looks like Tina Fey10. ……..And most importantly she hasn't been on either the Daily Show or The Colbert Report.
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pity2bu (Anonymous) says…

I love it when the citizens of Lawrence think they can dictate how other women around the U.S. should live their lives, such as when to stay home with their children, when to abort and when not too, and oh my the 17 year old daughter is pregnant, what moo-moo dress they should wear, they need to be wearing birkenstocks, lets not forget to tell the ladies not to shave their pits and legs as they must use women's musk, the all natu'rel pit smell found only in Lawrence. Thank God that the other 49 states, and Kansas' 104 other counties don't think the way Lawrence does.
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tanaumaga (Anonymous) says…

Where else have you been in the other 49…? I'd love to sit down and listen to more of your mindless rants sometime….tea @ two or three maybe?
22 September 2008
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VanillaGorilla (Anonymous) says…

I don't like Sara Palin because she is an environmental terrorist and not capable of holding an office which requires intelligence and knowledge of specific issues.Please don't be an ignorant know it all and then attempt to push you pathetic views on a public.You obviously live with your head in the sand. Enjoy life in your dark hole.The shallow end of the gene pool is getting crowded.
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none2 (Anonymous) says…

XD40 (Anonymous) says:”“What's the difference between Sarah Palin and Barack Obama?”“One is a well turned-out, good-looking, and let's be honest, pretty sexy piece of eye-candy.”The other kills her own food.”–––––––––––––––––––––––-Are you trying to say that Obama is transgendered???

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