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Why Liberals Hate Sarah Palin
They don't like Sarah Palin because she did not abort her Down's Syndrome child.
They wanted a powerful woman on the ticket and they got one, only not the kind that they had hoped for and on the "wrong" ticket, at that!
Dreaming of a bra-burning "womyn", they instead got an intelligent, beautiful woman, dedicated to Motherhood; a woman who has been a mover and shaker in the politics of her home state; a woman who doesn't wear her hair in dreads and who dresses stylishly, in a manner suiting her position in life and politics.
They got a woman who has a value system and is not afraid to talk about it, instead of a womyn who peers out from behind John Lennon glasses and in Moonie-eyed fashion says, "I'm OK, you're OK!".
They got a woman who supports her family through the proverbial thick and thin.
They got a woman whose smile is genuine and not the arrogant smirk of Hillary.
The Pseudo-liberal/Neo-socialists got a woman...a woman who scares them to death and they just can't handle it.
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teachandlearn (Anonymous) says…
It is offensive that you think that because someone is a democrat that they would what a special needs child aborted! I am a mother of three, a special education teacher, and a life long democrat. It is funny how republicans say candidates' families should be private, but you keep bringing it up. But since you did bring it up, I will comment on it. As a special education teacher and as a mother I cannot imagine taking on a job that requires leaving your family for extended periods of time. Children with special needs require a lot of attention. Sure she can pay someone to do that, but that does not replace a mother. I also cannot understand why she would put her seventeen year old pregnant daughter in the position she has. So much for family values. So much for putting your family first!
6 September 2008
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jonas_opines (Anonymous) says…
Good start Marion. That's at least as dumb as Epp's silly narratives.
6 September 2008
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dandelion (Anonymous) says…
Democrats don't hate Sarah Palin, they just think she's a politician who says one thing and does another. Is it true that when she came in as mayor the town had a balanced budget, then when she left it was 22 million in debt? I don't even think Lawrence has a debt like that, and it's much bigger. How can she call herself a fiscal conservative?
Can you Republicans please stop talking about Palin's family and focus on the issues?
6 September 2008
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jaywalker (Anonymous) says…
Yo, jonas! Where ya been? Been interested to hear how it's going up on the hill. Got comfortable yet? Teaching at KU all you thought it would be?
6 September 2008
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XD40 (Anonymous) says…
The democrat's primary reaction to Palin is fear. Fear of a strong, successful, conservative woman. The person they hate — for nominating her — is John McCain. They hate him because he is a war hero as well.
Barack will lose the election. That's when the vituperation will really start.
6 September 2008
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TheSychophant (Anonymous) says…
Levi Johnston is the father of Bristol Palin's baby. The 17-year-old hockey player at Burchell High School in Wasilla, Alaska, is by all accounts soon to be married to the Republican vice presidential candidate's daughter, but all may not be well. His MySpace page revealed juicy details about his outlook on life before he made it private. In it, he admits, “I'm a f**kin' redneck who likes to snowboard and ride dirt bikes. But I live to play hockey. I like to go camping and hang out with the boys, do some fishing, shoot some sh*t and just f**kin' chillin' I guess. Ya f*ck with me I'll kick ass.”
After all the publicity, Levi Johnston's MySpace was redacted, revealing no evidence of his previous profanity laden macho posturing. Although he admits that he is in a relationship, he still says that he wants to use MySpace “for networking or for dating.” Moreover, on the subject of possible children, he left the message, “Love kids, but not for me.” Most devastatingly, in a sharp contrast to the Palin family's conservative views, Levi instead posts that he is an agnostic.
The Levi Johnston-Bristol Palin marriage-to-be may yet not be, despite assurances from the Palin campaign. Their baby is due in four more months so the nuptials can't be delayed much longer.
So, what's the big deal, you ask:
(1) The McCain Campaign's abject failure to discover the existence of this page, and 86 it before publically identifying Palin as running mate. In Hollywood, secret agents permanently delete files of their “assets” and other damning information, with such extreme prejudice, it's like they never existed. Political campaigns presumably have a similar capacity, especially when it comes to myspace pages. I mean, how many people have both the duimb luck and foresight to download Levi's utterly pedestrian and unremarkable page before last week's runaway train was both christened and irreversibly derailed railed. .
Even an internet neophyte is cognizant of Myspace's popularity. Surely, all of us who religiously read our local newspaper's on-line edition recall the several fatal victims of crime and car wrecks whose myspace link is invariably posted in the comments section within a hour or two after their identities are publically revealed. The same for notorious local scofflaws.
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TheSychophant (Anonymous) says…
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Rank amateurs!!! Base and primitive neophytes!!!!
No?
And the same fu*k-ups will be staffing the White House and other major governmental entities and agencies, in important supervisory roles, no less, should McCain win. Remember Monica Goulding? Remember “You're doing a great job, Brownie?”
(2) While it is sometimes dangerous, presumptuous and unfair to postulate–without secret agent truth serum—the theoretically unknown and unknowable intent and motivations racing through the minds of others, you can't help but think this: Hmmm, typical 17 year old Red Neck Boy: Loves to cuss, play sports, down a few brews, arm wrestle, fight, and get a little trim. But marriage and kids? No way, no how.
So who is perpetrating and perpetuating this distinctly plausible, possible, probable and arguable lie that Bristol and Levi are deeply in love, and want to live happily ever after?. Shot gun wedding? Nah, too crude. If Sarah is anything, she's a cunning playa. Swiss bank account wedding, conveniently cancelledcan you hear “Church Lady”—after the election, and thereafter eternally irrelevant? Four years later, its old news. Remember Monica the Maydela? The Cigar? The Dress? Old hat, except for, perhaps the most acerbic and dog-loyal repubs. Speculation? Yes. But, honestly, I cannot categorically conclude “no way, no how.” .
How bout we just give the voters the uncontroverted facts, and let them decide? .
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Logan72 (Alia Ahmed) says…
teachandlearn,
You point out that some (I'm not going to paint all Republicans with the broad brush that the author of this blog does to Democrats) Republicans complain about the focus on Palin's family, but continue to bring it up if it suits there agenda. Cal Thomas' op-ed piece yesterday did the same thing. Then there is Bill O'Reilly calling the parents of Brittany Spears “pinheads” because their younger daughter was pregnant (and going to marry the father, I believe) yet coming to the Palins' defense.
6 September 2008
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bearded_gnome (Anonymous) says…
teachandlearn,
the reason for the ref that dems wish Sarah had aborted her downs syndrome child are that multiple times, probably more than ten in the past week, reports and pundits, feminist leaders, have commented that she shouldn't take on the VP, or the campaign, having a downs syndrome child. some have walked right up to the edge of actually saying, but not quite, that she'd be better off if she'd aborted him! some have questioned her getting an amnio test, that that indicates she was considering an abortion…wishful thinking
also sexist, they didn't question “jawbone Joe” when he was widowed with his kids!
6 September 2008
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jonas_opines (Anonymous) says…
jaywalker: I've been enjoying my time in class greatly, and I'm more or less comfortable with what I'm doing at this point. But it's an insane amount of work right now, with three separate classes for about 65 total students, having to craft the lesson plans, the presentation slides, assignments, reading selections, etc. etc. on top of my own classes, I don't have much in the way of time for anything else. Luckily, once you build things they're built, so my life should be substantially easier next semester, and I only teach until October, so I just have to stay on top of things until then.
But good, regardless, the position is a pretty natural fit for me, as I hoped/expected it would be. Too busy, though, to post much. Once you come upon a 175 post thread that you've missed from the start, it's too tiresome and time consuming to hunt down a good place to get in. (and, really, they're almost all the same anyway, so there'll be more chances)
6 September 2008
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JohnBrown (Anonymous) says…
My problem with Sarah is I don't know, and can't tell, when she's telling the truth and when she's spinning some more Alaskan yarn.
Take the Alaskan State's luxury jet. Did she sell it on e-Bay or not? Did she sell it for a profit or a loss? Or the Bridge to Nowhere: was she for it before she was against it? Or was she always against it? Did she take the earmark money and just spend it on something else, or did she return that money to the US taxpayers? What does she REALLY think about the Iraqi war, is it sound national policy or part of “God's war”? Did she really do all that Canadian pipeline negotiations or was it in the works before she became gov and she just finished it up? And why was she at this year's Alaskan Independent Party's convention if she believes in putting 'country first'? And what does “putting country first” and “service” mean to her if she's willing to demean the tens of thousands of people who participate in community service by helping economically displaced people?
Finally, I'd like to hear her opinions on “choice” or “right to life”. Is she really against a woman's right to choose if she's pregnant from a rape? Is she really FOR a would-be rapist's right to choose the mother of his offspring?
I know it's cold in Alaska a lot of the time, but down here in the lower 48, we need less yarn spinning and more straight talk. When will she give us that?
6 September 2008
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beatrice (Anonymous) says…
Having Marion Lynn tell us why liberals do anything, let alone why we “hate” Governor Palin is asinine. Suggesting it is because she has children is truly ridiculous. Although the family is supposedly off limits, he uses the infant's disability in a shameless assault to promote his hate against liberals and those who don't think just like him. Giving this an actual forum, rather than his usual comments, is a new low for the LJWorld (although it is right on par for Marion).
I'm sure any liberals with children who suffer from Downs will be particularly insulted by such a ridiculous and arrogant piece of hateful propaganda wrapped up as an “editorial.”
Marion hates liberals, and he routinely refers to Democrats as “demonrats.” His attempts to demonize virtually half of our population speaks to who truly hates others around here.
Shame on you LJWorld for allowing such trash to be given a forum. What next, are you going to allow White Supremacists a voice to tell us what is wrong with liberals in America too?
6 September 2008
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Boeing (Anonymous) says…
wow…I'm pro McCain-Palin and I hated reading this…sorry to all those who think we are all this empty/narrow minded.
6 September 2008
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teachandlearn (Anonymous) says…
Joe Biden took the train home each every day he was in Wahington to be home with kids! I am all for a woman leading our country, but I find it questionable that she is running a campaign on family values. My family values do not include airing my seventeen year's old pregnancy and leaving someone else to take care of my 4 month old child with special needs. By the way, I have a typically developing 4 month old and hate to leave him while I am at work for 8 hours.
6 September 2008
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kansas778 (Anonymous) says…
The libs hate Palin for the same reason the hate Michael Steele. They are racists and sexists. They think they aren't, that it's OK because they are “progressive,” but that really only makes it much worse. You see Palin is a traitor. Only old white rich men are supposed to be Republicans. A woman should know her place, and that is in the democratic party.
6 September 2008
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jimincountry (Anonymous) says…
I hope she doesn't ever get all gushy and say, “You Go Girl” or gawd forbid someone says that to her.
6 September 2008
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JohnBrown (Anonymous) says…
I'd just like to know when she's telling the truth.
6 September 2008
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dandelion (Anonymous) says…
Better question: Why are Republicans so afraid to discuss her “experience” as mayor of a little town? 22 million in debt for a small town? Shouldn't you be labeling her a “tax and spend liberal”? Oh, yes, the new conservatives are “lower taxes and spend even more”, like Bushie boy. Is that the newspeak for “fiscal conservative”?
6 September 2008
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Godot (Anonymous) says…
Marion, did you know this was online today?
Why They Hate Her
Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left.
by Jeffrey Bell
[snip]”…..the single most important narrative holding the left together in today's politics and culture is the one offered—often with little or no dissent—by adversarial feminism. The premise of this narrative is that for women to achieve dignity and self-fulfillment in modern society, they must distance themselves, not necessarily from men or marriage or childbearing, but from the kind of marriage in which a mother's temptation to be with and enjoy several children becomes a synonym for holding women back and cheating them out of professional success.
On August 29, in the immediate aftermath of the announcement by the McCain campaign, all that was widely known of the governor of Alaska was that she was married with five children, the last one of whom had been carried to term with Down syndrome, and that she was pro-life. No one knew that her oldest daughter was pregnant. No one knew much about what she had done as governor or in her previous career. No one knew how she had been drawn into politics, or that her sister had had a reckless husband and a contentious divorce. Above all, with the possible exception of John McCain, no one knew that Sarah Palin was both a married mother of five and a brilliant political talent with a chance not just to change the dynamics of the 2008 election but to rise to the top level of American politics, whatever happens this year.
The simple fact of her being a pro-life married mother of five with a thriving political career was—before anything else about her was known—enough for the left and its outliers to target her for destruction. She could not be allowed to contradict symbolically one of the central narratives of the left. How galling it will be to Sarah Palin's many new enemies if she survives this assault and prevails. If she does, her success may be an important moment in the struggle to shape not just America's politics but its culture.
Jeffrey Bell, author of Populism and Elitism: Politics in the Age of Equality (1992), is completing work on Social Conservatism: The Movement That Polarized American Politics.”
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content…
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JohnBrown (Anonymous) says…
Can anyone tell me when she's telling the truth?
6 September 2008
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Godot (Anonymous) says…
Here is another nugget from Bell's article:
“The most striking thing in purely political terms about this hurricane of elite rage is the built-in likelihood that it will backfire. It's not simply that it is highly capable of generating sympathy for Palin among puzzled undecided voters and of infuriating and motivating a previously placid GOP base, neither of which is in the interest of the Obama-Biden campaign. It also created an opening for Palin herself to look calm, composed, competent, and funny in response.
In her acceptance speech last Wednesday night, anyone could see the poise and skill that undoubtedly attracted McCain's attention months ago, when few others were even aware that he was looking. But it was precisely the venom of the left's assault that heightened the drama and made it a riveting television event. Palin benefited from her ability to project full awareness of the volume and relentlessness of the attacks without showing a scintilla of resentment or self-pity.
This is a rare talent, one shared by Franklin D. Roosevelt and Ronald Reagan. For this quality to have even a chance to develop, there must be something real to serve as an emotional backdrop: disproportionate, crazy-seeming rage by one's political enemies. Roosevelt was on his party's national ticket five times and Reagan sought the presidency four times. Each became governor of what at the time was the nation's most populous state. It took Roosevelt and Reagan decades of national prominence and pitched ideological combat to achieve the gift of enemies like these. Yet the American left awarded Sarah Palin this gift seemingly within a microsecond of her appearance on the national stage in Dayton, Ohio.”
6 September 2008
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Mr_Nancy_Boy_To_You (Tom Shewmon) says…
Good blog, Marion. The hypocrisy of liberals continues to rear it's head in full daylight. For a freakish election year, what else can you say. I see Biden practically screaming at audiences……I hope Palin makes him snap in the debate……her cool will prevail.
6 September 2008
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jumpin_catfish (Anonymous) says…
If you don't think many lefty loonie liberals hate Palin, you should just read a few of their blogs but I think the same could be said of right wing wacko neocons blogs. If we continue to over torque we may blow the engine folks.
6 September 2008
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TheSychophant (Anonymous) says…
Let's be careful comparing either candiate to FDR. Seventy-two years ago, in his renomination acceptance speech at the Democratic convention in Philadelphia (before more than 100,000 people gathered in Franklin Field), Franklin D. Roosevelt rose above the boiler-plate rhetoric of political speeches and spoke of his generation's “rendezvous with destiny.”
He warned of the perils to the nation of economic inequality. “Liberty,” he said, “requires opportunity to make a living, a living decent according to the standard of the time, a living which gives man not only enough to live by, but something to live for.”
Roosevelt's words echo across the decades because they resonate with the very meaning of America, a meaning that is so much deeper than what our politics have become. “We are fighting,” he told his audience, “to save a great and precious form of government, for ourselves and for the world.”
6 September 2008
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dandelion (Anonymous) says…
Any of you righties going to answer John Brown's questions? Or are you going to avoid, avoid as usual. When you can't defend her record, you attack. Why not discuss her record as mayor? Are you afraid of the facts. Show me the budget records of this little town before she started and after. Scared yet?
6 September 2008
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JohnBrown (Anonymous) says…
All I want to to know is did she do the the things she said she did? Did she sell the jet on eBay or not? Did she take the money for the Bridge to Nowhere but not build it? Did she leave her job as Mayor with the town in the red or the black? Why was she at the Alaskan Separatists Party meeting this year. Does she really believe the Iraqi war is “God's war”, as she said a few months ago?
How can I tell when Sarah Palin is telling the truth?
There is a lot of yammering, or kerpuffle, going on this board, but not much straight talk. Why?
6 September 2008
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…
Godot (Anonymous) says:
Marion, did you know this was online today?”
Marion writes:
No but only goes to show you that GMTA!
6 September 2008
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situveux1 (Anonymous) says…
Holy crap Marion. You didn't just hit the nail on the head, you pushed the nail through the wall.
6 September 2008
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XD40 (Anonymous) says…
What's the difference between Sarah Palin and Barack Obama?”
“One is a well turned-out, good-looking, and let's be honest, pretty sexy piece of eye-candy.
“The other kills her own food.”
6 September 2008
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…
situveux1 (Anonymous) says:
Holy crap Marion. You didn't just hit the nail on the head, you pushed the nail through the wall.”
Marion writes:
Thanks, situveux1!
Your comment does a lot to offset the barrage of messages like these I am receiving through the LJW messaging system:
“Hello,
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f**k your mother a**hole
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And this one:
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let me post on yer riversh**y a**hole
i hope obama wins just to rub it in to f**ktards like you.
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I do so love it when the Left shows its true hateful nature!
6 September 2008
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JohnBrown (Anonymous) says…
it seems no one supporting Palin can tell me when she's telling the truth and when she's just spinning more Alaskan yarn. eBay? Bridge to Nowhere? “God's war”? Town in the black? ….anyone?
6 September 2008
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RalphReed (Ralph Reed) says…
dandelion (Anonymous) writes:
“Any of you righties going to answer John Brown's questions? Or are you going to avoid, avoid as usual. When you can't defend her record, you attack. “
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I also want to know if John Brown's question will be answered. Regarding the rest of your comment, my experience is that this is a standard tactic.
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“Marian is a …”
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Bud, don't feed him, please.
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kansas778 (Anonymous) writes:
“The libs hate Palin for the same reason the hate Michael Steele. They are racists and sexists. They …”
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You're painting with a broad brush again K778. I think that's called a gross generalization.
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I don't hate Palin, I don't know her. All I know is what I read in numerous journals, and hear on CNN and FOX. (Yes, I listen to both. The truth is somewhere in the middle.)
I can tell you my gut feeling. I do not trust her. I don't know why, but there's something just not right. She's very good at playing the political game, she couldn't have gotten to where she is if she weren't. But, if half the things said on line are true, then I can't trust her. Also, I fear for our country should something happen to McCain; again, just a gut feeling that something's not right.
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I'm me. Who are you behind your hood of anonymity?
6 September 2008
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powershopper (Anonymous) says…
JohnBrown - I don't think you are going to get a straight answer. Marion, et. al. know the answers but realize the implications of admitting they do are, to say the least, damaging to their platform.
Marion — Admittedly, sometimes I enjoy your comments on these threads. Albeit sometimes rediculous, sometimes they are relevant. This time around, however, you really don't come off much better than Col_Bud_Hollands comments above. His emails to you are certainly inappropriate but definitely not indicative of every Democrat — If he even is a democrat.
6 September 2008
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XD40 (Anonymous) says…
Col Bud: we don't hate Obambi (THE Obamessiah), we despise his thinly veiled marxism. This is — fundamentally — a center right country. That's why the Palin VP pick so threatens you. You know Obambi's liberal left pap will be rejected by an informed electorate.
The Obamessiah is going to lose.
Your mother would be ashamed of you if she saw what you wrote to Marion Lynn.
6 September 2008
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beatrice (Anonymous) says…
What a sexist piece of crap, to say the least!
Marion loves Palin only because she believes in the issues he stands for. If she didn't, he would try to tear her appart by using every possible sexist insult, exactly like those he leveled against the “womyn” he doesn't agree with. You see, in Marion's world, if you aren't a conservative who is against rape even in cases of rape and incest then you are a “feminazi,” a term he has thrown at me on more than one occassion.
“They got a woman who has a value system and is not afraid to talk about it, instead of a womyn who peers out from behind John Lennon glasses and in Moonie-eyed fashion says, “I'm OK, you're OK!”. ” — What the hell does that mean? Who exactly fit that description among Democrats this year? Nobody. It is a made up persona to fit the “type” of people he hates.
“a woman who doesn't wear her hair in dreads and who dresses stylishly” — well, I think we all know what he means when he slams women who wear their hair in dreads, now don't we.
Yep, Marion makes it clear he hates people with dreads.
Unbelievable that the LJWorld would allow such blatantly offensive garbage to be given the time of day.
Obama / Biden!
6 September 2008
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ASBESTOS (Anonymous) says…
Beatrice posted:
“Marion loves Palin only because she believes in the issues he stands for.”
Unh, DUH!! That is what the two party sysstem does, the same thing can and is said by Obama and McCain Supporters.
This shows your pedestrian, low level, narrow Kansas perspective, that only used MoveOn and DailyKos talking points. Your view is like the leberal MSM which has been busted bigger than anything.
www.newsbusters.com
Please go there, and get the real story.
Or don't and continue life with your head stuck in your excretory orifice.
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Pywacket (Anonymous) says…
This is hysterical! I knew before clicking on the link that anything with the title of, “Why liberals hate……” would be written by a reactionary conservative, but this is even better than I expected. Marion, of all people!
Since Marion thinks he can speak for liberals, I'll take a shot at speaking for Marion.
Why Marion Loves Sarah Palin
Sarah, like Marion, is adept at manipulating the truth and leaving out details that might reveal her real actions and motives. She, like Marion, likes to talk tough and wave guns around, but hasn't a clue how to achieve anything that can't be grabbed by firepower, bluster, or dirty politics. She's vindictive and vengeful toward anyone who stands in her way and distorts and inflates her “accomplishments,” walking all over those who were trusting or naive enough to hand her the reins of power.
Notably, Sarah, unlike any real woman in Marion's life, is too remote to ever be anything but a Fantasy Woman to him: she will never reject him outright, laugh in his face, argue with any of his crackpot ideas or pronouncements, file a restraining order against him, or rearrange her own life to get away from the trainwreck of his.
In addition, Sarah is a hero of hypocrites everywhere: what her little knocked-up teen does about pregnancy is “her decision”; what other, less-well-to-do teens do about theirs should (in Sarah's smug view) be the decision of the federal government—even if that teen's pregnancy is the result of rape and/or incest. (The rates of which, by the way, are higher in Alaska than in any other state.) Nothing like goose-stepping over the rights of the already oppressed. Where have we seen that before…? Oh, yeah….
In Marion's view, what's not to like?
6 September 2008
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Boston_Corbett (Anonymous) says…
Marion: seeing you post those private emails reminds me of all the vulgar and threatening ones various ones of us have received from Cool - Coltrane.
Except when some people have posted them here like you, the LJW removes them. What gives with that?
6 September 2008
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…
And that Great Spokesman for the Left continues his messaging:
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f**k you and ALL the “right” may you all die painful shi*y deaths.
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As a representative of the Left, Col_Bud, you are doing just fine in showing us more about the true loving character of the Left!
(Notice please, that I did not mention that peculiar sub-species of Liberal, the Democrat.)
6 September 2008
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beatrice (Anonymous) says…
Asbestos, you miss the point. Marion is making a claim that others hate Palin, when in fact it is very clear that Marion is the one who hates others. Most of us who disagree with someone don't actually hate the other person. Marion makes it clear that he does through his descriptions of imagined liberal women.
And two things to make clear — I have never visited the website of moveon or dailykos. Not even once. I speak for myself. I also don't live in Kansas, but nice putdown of your fellow Kansans there, bub.
6 September 2008
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BigPrune (Anonymous) says…
Let's talk about the polls. After Palin & McCain and the RNC, there is zero bounce? No way in hell could this be true. Every woman I know likes Sarah Palin and will be voting McCain and most of these women were undecided.
Throw the polls away, after all, they had Kerry winning the election and before that Gore. Are the pollsters biased against the Republicans? Recent history says they are indeed.
Why do the liberals hate Sarah Palin? Because she is a good person and does the right thing. That's why they hate her. She has 80-90% approval rating as governor and all the liberals talk about is she is a small town mayor. They hate her because her choice was to keep her Down Syndrome baby instead of killing it. They hate her because she is electrifying. They hate her because she is the biggest threat they have ever had to face. A powerful woman who happens to be conservative.
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Pywacket (Anonymous) says…
As for how to tell if Palin is lying: that's easy. If her mouth is moving, she's lying.
Her smug claims that she rejects federal earmarks are utterly false. Like any other politician on the make, she goes after earmarks or rails against them, depending on which way the wind is blowing and what will benefit her personally.
As mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired lobbyist Steven Silver (an Abramoff crony) to haul in $27,000 in fed money for the city of 6700, playing the “native American” card to get it approved. She didn't seem to have any qualms about begging for and accepting federal handouts then.
And now she swaggers around boasting that, as governor, she told the Feds “If we want a bridge, we'll build it ourselves!” Well, isn't she tough? In truth, she supported the Gravina Island Bridge during her campaign, rejecting it only after Congress had already shot it down. She still received the over-$200,000 pork rind from the gov't and did NOT return it, contrary to her claims. Matter of public record.
Get a load of the commentary on Palin's claims in “The Faithful Progressive”, a Christian-based blogspot: http://faithfulprogressive.blogspot.c…. The entire blog is worth reading. Here's a comment from the page, from SB George:
This is the real story and the one that is being completely obscured by the whole pregnancy deal—which I don't care about or think is relevant.
Their [the GOP's] narrative that she is the “inner John McCain,” a reformer, a corruption fighter, a cost-cutter is baseless and cynical. She . . .
-Lied about the bridge. She campaigned for it!
-did not fight earmarks—but paid lobbyists to get them.
-did not take on Ted Stevens (well maybe a little AFTER his corruption scandals got hot) but [was] previously part of his corrupt machine.
-is under investigation for credible allegations of abuse of power.”
There is more credible evidence out there to refute her cynical, phony claims. But only if you pull your head out and READ.
Here's a start: http://thinkprogress.org/wonkroom/200…
And try this one: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-met…
The media honeymoon should be over very soon. Let's see how Miss Porkbarrel stands up to challenges to her lies during press conferences or debates. I can't wait.
And I haven't even touched on her many and easily refuted lies about Barack Obama…
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RedwoodCoast (Anonymous) says…
Good god, Marion. Abort her child? I surely hope that you aren't completely sincere with that comment.
As for your other affronts to those belonging to subcultures other than your own, I personally feel that you're barking up an imaginary tree. Boy, wouldn't it be nice if we could generalize one's character simply by their appearance.
“…a woman who doesn't wear her hair in dreads and who dresses stylishly, in a manner suiting her position in life and politics.”
Thanks for defining the standards of attire and decorum for us. If Sarah Palin appeared in a debate this fall with newly-formed dreadlocks, that would just be horrible. It's just like Samson and his hair. She just wouldn't have that magical melange of fortitude and grace anymore. It's all in the hair and attire. You know, it's kind of like painting an old car that you've just fixed up. The new paint completely alters the way the thing runs and drives. Right?
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jaywalker (Anonymous) says…
Good to hear, jonas, definitely sounds like you've got your hands full. Just don't forget to give yourself time to decompress now and then, gotta stay fresh.
Yeah, you're not missing anything new here, it just seems to get uglier as we approach November. I'm certain your's is time better spent. I hope to be teaching by next fall, any invaluable tips or insight you come across please feel free to share.
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beatrice (Anonymous) says…
bp: “They hate her because her choice was to keep her Down Syndrome baby …”
I thought family was off limits. If so, then why do so many conservatives keep talking about the youngest Palin family member?
If anything, talk about the second to youngest. Now that is a sweet looking child. Little Miss Alaskan Sunshine. But to use a Downs syndrome child to prop up your conservative agenda is simply sickening.
I sure hope we learn more about her, and soon. It would be good to know more than what she read from the single prepared speech.
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Pywacket (Anonymous) says…
Big Prune~ You must run in a very tiny circle. No surprise there.
I know no woman who identifies with this lying, smug hypocrite or who wants her in a position where she can pack the Supreme Court. Palin believes that a 12-year-old who is raped by her uncle should be forced by the federal government to carry the resulting repugnancy to term—further permanently scarring her psyche and blighting her life.
Her idea of an empowered woman is herself standing over a bleeding caribou with a smoking gun or her pampered daughter being “saved” from unwed motherhood by Mommy-generated pressure on a hapless teen boy who is now being frog-marched into the mother of all shotgun weddings.
Yay, Sarah! Yay, Bristol! Who cares about poor teens from broken families and impoverished backgrounds? No choice for them—they must do as Sarah's evangelical fundamentalist beliefs dictate.
If you want bounce, try this on for size:
The day after Palin's loudmouthed braggadocio-laden, lie-powered speech in St. Paul:
The Obama campaign registered a one-day record of $10 million in donations.
The McCain campain received $1 million.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/…
There's some bounce for you!
What an asset she'll be—for Obama's campaign!
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XD40 (Anonymous) says…
Here's the list of Sarah's real sins. Hint: one of the reasons the left hates her — she's never been on Meet the Press:
http://news.bostonherald.com/news/opi…
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commuter (Anonymous) says…
I don't know enough about Palin yet. I was waiting for her hsuband to say ” For the first time in my life I am proud of my country”.
For me, can anyone tell me what Obama has done in the Senate besides run for President?
How is he going to pay for his plans?
How is he going to help us get less dependent on foreign oil?
People don't know if Palin is lying, I feel the same way about Obama. Going to Harvard Law School taight him very well on how to lie to people with straight face.
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RedwoodCoast (Anonymous) says…
commuter: Could one argue that years of torturous interrogation in a Vietnamese prison camp taught John McCain how to lie to people with a straight face? I'm not saying I think he's trying to swindle the country (and I don't think Obama is, either), but I'll bet the guy got pretty good at misinforming.
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JohnBrown (Anonymous) says…
Jerk_Patrol wrote: Most of this Palin discussion going on here and in the country still misses a discussion of the real issues.
Big Prune wrote: Why do the liberals hate Sarah Palin? Because she is a good person and does the right thing.
Big Prune: she may be a “good person” and “does the right thing', but does she tell the truth?
This year, Alaska has asked for over $200 million in earmarks, so is she really against earmarks? eBay anyone? As mayor, did she leave her town in the black or in debt?
The question that has to answered before long is: can Sarah Palin tell the difference between the truth and Alaskan-spun yarn?
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sunflower97 (Anonymous) says…
Who takes care of the kids while Palin is running the state? Who will take care of them if she is elected VP? It takes a lot of work to balance family and work. Who is raising the children still living at home while Mom works until 10pm at night (She said she doesn't get home until 10pm many nights). Dad has a job too, so are they using nannies? Why aren't those who are so in awe of her asking these questions?
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kansas778 (Anonymous) says…
JohnBrown (Anonymous) says:
This year, Alaska has asked for over $200 million in earmarks, so is she really against earmarks?
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Alaska earmarks for 2005: $705 million.
Alaska earmarks for 2008: $154 million.
From http://earmarks.omb.gov/
Please explain this drastic reduction in earmarks for the State of Alaska in recent years.
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Newell_Post (Anonymous) says…
Marion, I'm disappointed. Some of your previous posts have been the most intelligent and best researched things I have ever seen here. But every once in a while you go off on one of these dittohead rants that calls into question your credibility.
I'm neither a liberal nor a Democrat, but I have quite a few friends who are. None of them hate Palin. Certainly, none of them hate her for having a Downs Syndrome child. They merely oppose her attempts to use the power of the Federal government to force the same situation (or much worse) on everyone in the entire country. None of my liberal friends have bashed the daughter for anything. They oppose the hypocrisy of the mother for wallowing in “family values” and abstinence-only education and then weasel-wording the need for a shotgun wedding.
In terms of Palin's speeches, I thought they were are at least as snide and narcissistic as anything Hillary Clinton ever came out with, if not far worse.
Nobody hates Palin. But lots of people don't want her as VP to a guy that has about 50% odds of not surviving even one term in office due to age, cancer history, and family history of fatal heart attacks.
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Pywacket (Anonymous) says…
commuter~
You seem to have missed Obama's convention speech, during which he answered many of your questions, but you can do some very easy searches—avoiding, I would hope, the rabidly partisan sources on either side of the aisle.
He has accomplished a good deal so far and has helped pass some vital legislature (contrary to Palin's false claims). He has sensible ideas about paying for his plans (which do not involve further impoverishing the middle class!), and plans to take a multi-front approach to squelching dependence on foreign oil.
In fact, Palin apparently liked his ideas on energy so much, she regurgitated each point, up to and including wind and nuclear power, after first lying and stating that Obama planned to “do nothing.” Apparently, her speechwriters are counting on nobody checking the veracity of anything she said—which is probably true in the case of the hardline party faithful, but to include such blatant lies was an insult to informed independents.
Obviously, I am biased, so don't listen to me. I'm an independent who is solidly behind Obama. But this election is too important not to make the best decision you possibly can, so I urge you to do your research yourself—gather the facts as well as you can from the most unbiased sources you can, then read some opinions from all over the board—especially from bi-partisan sources or those who make an earnest effort to be open minded.
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bennyoates (Anonymous) says…
Actually, I'm a liberal who loves Sarah Palin and most of my fellow liberals feel the same way. We were already motivated to work hard to elect Obama-Biden, and her presence only makes us more dedicated.
Marion Lynn has never known anything about reality and never will. That's why his weblog doesn't have a title like, “Why the Republican Party is terrified of George W. Bush.”
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Mr_Nancy_Boy_To_You (Tom Shewmon) says…
Again, not to sound like a broken record but sure I probably do, of all things related to this election cycle, the left leaning media's commitment to seeing Obama in office is the most maddening. The far-left blogs sort of feed the news cycles, and it all ties into a dogpile of propaganda, lies or lies by ommission and fabrications…..to tear down Republicans, McCain, Palin and the entire conservative movement in the name of the most hated president ever, George W. Bush. McCain has never been GWB's lapdog, no matter what the Obama commercials and blogs say. I hope the people make the right decision and reject Obama and Biden. And why is Joe screaming, red-faced, with abrupt hand motions in his appearances? It's too unsettling to watch him.
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TacoBob (Anonymous) says…
Wondering why Oprah won't have Palin on the show when Obama, Clintons, Gore, etc. have been there. Fuels the thought process that the Dems are 'afraid' of her. I don't think they are so why not make some interesting TV and end up with killer ratings. Is the demographic influence a concern?
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…
bennyoates (Anonymous) says:
“Marion Lynn has never known anything about reality and never will. That's why his weblog doesn't have a title like, “Why the Republican Party is terrified of George W. Bush.”
Marion writes:
No, Benny, it's because this blog is about why “liberals” hate Sarah Palin.
Why don't you get to writin', there, Bud and put up your own blog?
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Mr_Nancy_Boy_To_You (Tom Shewmon) says…
Wondering the same TacoBob….Obamas on late '06 ….she claims she does want her show to be a political influence. Sure, Oprah.
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…
Geez, Marion, as I was trying to parse all the stereotypes, I realized
you'd escalated to quadraphenotyping, and… wait a minute…
it's branching, again….
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bennyoates (Anonymous) says…
Maybe Oprah should invite Palin. And maybe TacoBob should be equally concerned over Palin's refusal to appear for interviews on shows like Meet the Press.
Your assumption that we Democrats are afraid of Palin is wishful thinking and has no basis in reality. We are focused on winning this election and nothing or no one will knock us off course, especially someone as unimpressive (and clearly impressed with herself) as Palin is.
You ought to be asking yourself why Palin is afraid to have a news conference or be interviewed by a source other than People magazine, to which she gave her only interview since being chosen. If she's so tough, she ought to relish the chance to put the media in their places as often as possible.
In the meantime, pick up that copy of People magazine and then complain to us about how Obama's too much of a celebrity.
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vavs0929 (Anonymous) says…
Im not scared of a woman who has extra-marital affairs and is anti-gay and anti-choice. Im afraid of what she would do in office.
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Pogo (Anonymous) says…
Let's put things in perspective relative to the blog's author:
Lynn was an active informant for the K.B.I. during the fun days of the early '70's and Vern Miller.
Why respond to anything an informant (a.k.a. narc) writes?
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TheSychophant (Anonymous) says…
Was he a narc, ie., a sworn and credentialed law enforcment officer, or a snitch. Hard to condemn a cop for doing his job, just because he was following the orders of his superiors. ; But gratituiosly snitching on people he knew, now thats something entirely different.
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8ball (Anonymous) says…
why in the hell would any republican agree to appear on meet the press or 60 minutes or any other of these repulican hating shows?if i was running for any office as a republican i would say to hell with all of them.this whole country is out of touch.no matter who wins this election he is going to start off with a 50 percent disapproval rating.
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bennyoates (Anonymous) says…
You have to ask the vast numbers of Republicans who do, in fact, appear on these “Republican hating” shows, 8Ball. You know good and well that it is common practice for candidates to do this, no matter their party affiliation.
Most Republicans probably don't see themselves as victims, even though you see them that way. They see these appearances as valuable, not necessarily perfect, opportunities to make their case to the public.
But Palin's not appearing, either because she's afraid to do so, or McCain's people are afraid of what might happen. Probably both. Her speech on 9.3.08 made it clear she's a bully, and her avoidance of questions makes it clear she's a coward.
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