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Corporation Enslavement Baloney – The Issue Is Greed


Well, I note we have another plaintive cry for state funding for the arts. No matter that there is such funding in other accounts. No matter that there is local funding. No matter that there is federal funding. The argument is that we all benefit. Of course that argument is made by those with a direct interest. Whether the rest of us feel that there may already be enough government funding for the arts does not seem to matter – the art elites have spoken.

Now tell me what is different about this demand for tax payer’s money and the demands for such money from “Green” elites for solar power and the jobs it might produce. Having though about that what is different than demands from business élites for providing tax abatements to corporations such as General Electric that ostensible produce jobs. In fact, what is wrong with providing tax dollars to financial sector elites to avoid what could have been a catastrophic meltdown of our economy? How about bowing to the Social services elites by allowing almost half the population to pay no income tax because they are poor (really – half of us?). What is wrong with agreeing with the investment elites and allowing the richest among us to use capital gains tax rates to avoid income tax because their investments ostensibly create jobs? What is wrong with our college elites demanding that we pay for their education with money from the rest of us?

Corporate goodies are different from advocacy group goodies? Liberal goodies are better than conservative goodies. Goodies for the poor are better than goodies for the rich? Goodies for the young are better than goodies for the old. More and more goodies!

Come on all of you posters out there admit it. The issues ostensible being advocated by the OWS or the Tea Party or many of you have nothing to do with need or any other rational discriminator. It is all about what you want and who you want to reward at the expense of others. The real and dominant issue is human (not just corporate) greed. “I want what you have and I don’t care how you got it!!” Give it too me! Now!!!

This is going to be a very bitter election cycle.


Liberty275 6 years, 5 months ago

All I really want is to keep enough of my own paycheck to live a OK life. If times were better and we were making more money, sure, count me in for public arts, new libraries, playgrounds whatever. Yeah, I'm libertarian and should be against such things, but I can reconcile the two as because those things will help people I actually know and care about, even if I never would use them.

I'd like to see everyone get whatever they want. Unfortunately, I'm strapped for cash at the moment.

The problem isn't greed, the problem is I need my money right now.

"This is going to be a very bitter election cycle."

How do you think the media makes it's money? They build up/tear down candidates so they are running 50/50 using social warfare, leaks, wedge issues etc. That glues us to the TV for months ahead of the election and then if they can get it close enough, we'll stayed glued during the recount overtime show (starring algore in 2000). Actually, it's pretty entertaining. I watch it all then vote for the libertarians, and if their is no libertarian for a seat, I write myself in.

I suggest all of you write in "Liberty275" if you don't know who else to pick. If I win something I'll give away free ham sandwiches.

jhawkinsf 6 years, 5 months ago

On rye, with swiss cheese and just a little brown mustard. Thank you.

pace 6 years, 5 months ago

What you really mean is , come on all you posters, give me attention for spouting my rant. sad.

Crazy_Larry 6 years, 5 months ago

"There's a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious—makes you so sick at heart—that you can't take part. You can't even passively take part. And you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you've got to make it stop. And you've got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you're free, the machine will be prevented from working at all.""

beatrice 6 years, 5 months ago

As a society, everyone benefits from education, even if you aren't taking classes yourself. The arts are a form of education and it connects the shared humanity of all people even if you personally don't get it. Saying taxes shouldn't ever be given to the arts because it doesn't benefit a specific person on a personal level is missing the point. That is the same as saying that I don't want the government to pay for one road because I don't personally have a need to go in that direction. They should only fund roads I personally will drive.

I won't vote for Liberty275 because I don't like ham.

George Lippencott 6 years, 5 months ago

Yes Bea, I understand the oft repeated argument by those who advocate for education and the arts and all sorts of other social service activities that whatever they want contributes to the common good.

If we all paid for the common good with sufficient treasure than maybe I would agree. Otherwise we are asking about half the population to pay for all this stuff. Now we all benefit relatively equally from police, fire, basic education, and the like and we should all pay for it.

When it comes to things where only certain élites use that service and the vast majority benefit only notionally than I think there is a legitimate argument over priorities. The one thing I never see from liberals on here is any sense of priorities other than offering up Defense spending and demanding money from people who already pay between 30 and 50% of their income in the taxes that buy these marginal services.

We are cutting promised benefits to those we have sent to war. How can you justify demanding we pay for stuff like art support for aspiring artists?

beatrice 6 years, 5 months ago

I can defend my stand quite easily. And this is my opinion, not the opinion of "liberals." I think for myself, not for a group.

You compare cuts in military spending with cuts in art funding, which is like comparing apples with B52 bombers. One is a rather minor expenditure that creates jobs and involves communities across the country, while the other is our bloated military spending!

Priorities as I see them should include cuts to farm subsidies for corporate farms, cuts to oil subsidies (are they serious with justifying tax money going to Exxon?), cuts in other social services that include Welfare by tightening the system to help only those who truly need it, and even cuts to military spending. There are many ways to make cuts, and the arts shouldn't be among them. I also completely disagre with your notion that only "elites" benefit from such a service. Students and audiences around the country, let alone those who work in the arts and the communities that thrive from promoting the arts and those who just look at public art are far from just the all scary "elites."

While I tell you what I think, hopefully it will dispell your notion that all "liberals" do this or all "liberals" do that. Every single g-d time you write that, I prove you wrong. I just set out a series of priorities in cuts, which you said "liberals" can't do, yet I just did. And easily. So stop with the broad brush generalizations already. Attempt to speak to people as individuals and not as a representative of groupthink and you might actually learn something about what people believe. Geez.

We don't need less art in our lives.

George Lippencott 6 years, 5 months ago

Well Bea, I commend you for a list that is not simply cut Defense. I believe this is the second time you have done it. Can you recall any other poster on here offering such a list? If you can I will stand corrected as to liberals. Otherwise I think my comment stands.

Now, I compared money for things like the arts with money for pay and benefits for our soldiers. There really is a difference between them and the larger bloated defense world. That too is something I have not seen reflected on here. I am sorry, but if we have to cut TRICARE there is no money for struggling artists.

Unlike you Bea, I can point out many specifics where a large military base or a new weapons system were procured without any support form anybody in uniform. Political largess (a big rant with me) extends to all corners of our budget. Keeping your base open is survival. Keeping your plant open is survival inserting all kinds of “pork” in the Defense bills is a sport. Cutting it is political beyond belief. The powers that be will cut the soldiers every time rather than close a base that might impact a critical congressional seat.

And because you say that arts funding is for everybody does not make it so. Certainly you can line up a class and give them an art history lesson but nobody asked for it except of course the educators who never met a social service expenditure that they do not proclaim for the common good. Perhaps you could identify some art related function in past years funded with the line item cut by the Governor that the wife and I might have had an opportunity to attend.

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