Blogs home Kansas Watch @ LJWorld
Abstinence Education Fails the Palin Household
From the Huffington Post:
Sarah Palin's 17-year-old , unmarried daughter is five months pregnant, the campaign has announced. Hoping to quell internet rumors about about her youngest son, Palin released the news about her daughter Bristol earlier today.
A statement released by the campaign said that Bristol Palin will keep her baby and marry the child's father. Bristol Palin is five months pregnant, and the baby is due in late December.
Can you imagine the Rightwingers' outcry if this were Barack Obama's 17 year old unmarried daughter?
For more on Kansas political news and views, read Kansas Watch at http://kswatch.squarespace.com
1 September 2008
at 1:30 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
TheSychophant (Anonymous) says…
The story has broken and we now know which version of “Babygate” is true. Palin's unwed 17-year old daughter is pregnant.
Palin, who arrived in St. Paul today to accept the Republican nomination for vice president, sent out a joint statement with her husband, Todd.
“Our beautiful daughter Bristol came to us with news that as parents we knew would make her grow up faster than we had ever planned,” they said. “We're proud of Bristol's decision to have her baby and even prouder to become grandparents. As Bristol faces the responsibilities of adulthood, she knows she has our unconditional love and support.
“Bristol and the young man she will marry are going to realize very quickly the difficulties of raising a child, which is why they will have the love and support of our entire family. We ask the media to respect our daughter and Levi's privacy as has always been the tradition of children of candidates,” the Palin family statement concluded.
This confirms three very important things:
Trig is Palin's baby, and the strange strange circumstances of his birth (delivering a speech in Texas while in labor, and taking the prolonged two-pronged commercial airline flight during a high-risk pregnancy without notifying the flight crew, then driving past two hospitals in Anchorage to deliver in a facility an hour drive away with no neonatal ICU) are apparently true. Todd Palin's reason for making those potentially life and death decisions about his wife and unborn son? “You can't have a fish-picker from Texas.”
The fact that Palin had a 16-year old who got pregnant out of wedlock was presumably unknown by the McCain people. After all, he only met her twice, and probably never met any of her children. And it was obviously too much of a bother to vet the candidate and at the very least know in advance what kind of sensational and unwanted headlines might follow. AND, Palin didn't volunteer this information.
Our Republican Vice Presidential candidate is a person of questionable judgment. I don't think there are many out there who would disagree with this statement at this point.
So, in the first three days, she's lied about saying “Thanks but no thanks” on the bridge to nowhere, and withheld information from the campaign she's supposedly trying to help, that could be devastating to McCain. At the very least, it sure doesn't help. What's next?
As I said before, this may be the tip of our Alaskan iceberg. There are 'gates' a-plenty out there that are just waiting for some pretty basic investigation to reveal their secrets.
1 September 2008
at 1:32 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
ASBESTOS (Anonymous) says…
It also looks like the DNC members have no class and are turning into slim misters, that will pull no punches in matters of taste.
You are a piece of **** Todd, and this post proves your opinions are iunbalanced to say the least.
Do you really want the GOP to tear into Joe Biden's and Obama's family?
It is either “hands off” in all cases, or it is game on.
You liberals raised hell about Chealsea Clinton, and gave no quarter to the Bush girls, do you really want to go down this road?
It shows the lowest denominator the Lefties have become.
Like I stated before the “moral high ground” has been sceded byt the DNC.
1 September 2008
at 1:43 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
LiberalDude (Anonymous) says…
Sarah Palin- worst running mate selection ever.
1 September 2008
at 1:44 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
TheSychophant (Anonymous) says…
Asbestos wrote:
“Do you really want the GOP to tear into Joe Biden's and Obama's family?
It is either “hands off” in all cases, or it is game on.
You liberals raised hell about Chealsea Clinton, and gave no quarter to the Bush girls, do you really want to go down this road?
It shows the lowest denominator the Lefties have become.
Like I stated before the “moral high ground” has been sceded byt the DNC.
–––––––––––––––—
Yeah, there you go again, you gunkie. You want to argue decency. Consider this:
John McCain made this odious joke about Chelsea Clinton back in '98.
Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno.”
Sen. John McCain, speaking to a Republican dinner, June 1998.
In one word, the joke is downright crude, and certainly not presidential. McCain's two-liner conveys some interesting insights into what he considers humorous (lesbianism, a young woman's physical appearance), particularly since it was delivered to a Republican crowd. Remember, this is the party that champions pro-family values.
McCain's lapse in judgment is a significant clue into aspects of his “character,” and thus relevant to the voting public.
You want to talk character, Asbestos. Bring it On.
1 September 2008
at 1:45 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
ASBESTOS (Anonymous) says…
This is the most sexist thing I have ever seen.
When are you guys going to come out and call her and all other women a slut because they have a vagina?
This is low.
And I Like it.
It shows what a bunch of low lifes populate today's DNC.
Yes siree, these are today's Democrats and they are not your “Father's oldsmobile”.
I bet the NOW, and the other Feminist groups wihin the Democratic party are getting pretty pissed now, First Obama throws Rev. Wright under the bus, then Hillary, now women in general are politically being thrown under the bus to pillary a Successful Governor from Alaska, whom happens to be a woman with a down syndrome son, and a pregnant teenager daughter.
Yeas, you guys are really on to something now.
What is your message that you are trying to establish with this?
1 September 2008
at 1:48 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
ASBESTOS (Anonymous) says…
So that means it is OK to attack the children of Politicians, just so I know the rules and we all play by them.
Don't B&^%$ when it comes back to bite you!
1 September 2008
at 1:54 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
TheSychophant (Anonymous) says…
Palin's husband has DWI arrest
Posted: 02:30 PM ET
McCain and Sarah and Todd Palin campaigning in Washington, Pennsylvania.
st. paul, Minnesota (CNN) - A senior adviser to the McCain campaign confirmed Monday that Todd Palin, husband to Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, was arrested for driving while intoxicated in 1984.
“Yes, 24 years ago he had a DWI,” senior McCain adviser Steve Schmidt told reporters in St. Paul.
Schmidt was asked if he was worried about the news, and replied, “I was not.”
The story was first reported by David Brody, a CNN contributor and Christian Broadcasting Network News Senior National Correspondent
_____________________________________________
Once again, the duplicitous party of “family values” shots intself in the foot.
Wow, its only been three days since Palin was revealed to the public. Looks like McCains abominable lapse in judgment is turning out to be the proverbial Democratic Wet Dream. This election ain't about reality, its about actuality. Wow oh wow. Were're having some fun now.
1 September 2008
at 2:02 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
ASBESTOS (Anonymous) says…
I think the Obama macchine is falling apart.
With the postings I have seen here and elsewhere, the posters are getting more and more militant, and very far from what the Messiah wants.
More sexist responses to the Palin appointment, but any criticism of Obama is default racist.
He has no experience, and she does. She is facing familial problems and he has yes to go through them, and “besides they are black” and we are afraid of them (in their words).
I think the wheels are going to come off this thing, and the Press and MSM are going to have a fit. But the Obama supporters will turn full bore militant.
1 September 2008
at 2:09 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
fuel_for_the_fire (Anonymous) says…
TheSynchophat - You are laughable.
You claim that the Palin's statement “confirms three very important things”, then list “the fact that Palin had a 16-year old who got pregnant out of wedlock was presumably unknown by the McCain people” as one of the confirmed items.
Laughable, truly laughable….I suggest you spend more time studying an English dictionary and less time spreading drivel.
1 September 2008
at 2:11 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
mommaeffortx2 (Anonymous) says…
meow, the claws are out on this one.
1 September 2008
at 2:15 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
Marion (Marion Lynn) says…
“A former Democratic National Committee chairman apologized Sunday for remarks he made a day earlier that suggested he thought Hurricane Gustav demonstrated that God is on the Democrats' side in this year's presidential election.
Don Fowler, who was DNC chairman from 1995-1996, said he was just mimicking Rev. Jerry Falwell when he was caught on tape during a flight from Denver to North Carolina Friday.
“That just demonstrates that God is on our side,” Fowler said during the flight, of which a video was posted on YouTube under the headline: “Fowler Fouls: Hurricane is God's Favor To Democrats…….”
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/…
1 September 2008
at 2:24 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
TheSychophant (Anonymous) says…
The whole “experience” debate is silly. Under our system of government, there is only one job that gives you both executive and foreign policy experience, and that's the one McCain and Obama are running for. Nevertheless, it's a hardy perennial: If your opponent is a governor, you accuse him of lacking foreign policy experience. If he or she is a member of Congress, you say this person has never run anything. And if, by chance, your opponent has done both, you say that he or she is a “professional politician.” When Republicans aren't complaining about someone's lack of experience, they are calling for term limits.
That's why the important point about Palin's lack of experience isn't about Palin. It's about McCain. And the question is not how his choice of Palin might complicate his ability to use the “experience” issue or whether he will have to drop experience as an issue. It's not about the proper role of experience as an issue. It's not about experience at all. It's about honesty. The question should be whether McCain — and all the other Republicans who have been going on for months about Obama's dangerous lack of foreign policy experience — ever meant a word of it. And the answer is apparently not. Many conservative pundits woke up this morning fully prepared to harp on Obama's alleged lack of experience for months more. Now they face the choice of either executing a Communist-style U-turn (“Experience? Feh! Who needs it?”) or trying to keep a straight face while touting the importance of having been mayor of a town of 9,000 if you later find yourself president of a nation of 300 million.
We all know that modern political campaigns choose their issues from the cafeteria line, after market-testing them and then having them professionally framed. Rarely, though, are we offered such a clear and unarguable example. How could anyone truly believe that Barack Obama's background and job history are inadequate experience for a president and simultaneously believe that Sarah Palin's background and job history are adequate? It's possible to believe one or the other. But both? Simply not possible. John McCain has been — what's the word? — lying. And so have all the pundits who rushed to defend McCain's choice.
This is especially damning to McCain because his case for himself (besides not being Obama, a standard under which many of us might qualify) has rested on his honor and integrity. The North Vietnamese couldn't break him, and neither could the Brahmins of his own party in the Senate. He was a maverick who always told it straight.
So much for that.
1 September 2008
at 2:27 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
mike_blur (Mike Blur) says…
Bristol Palin's pregnancy is the result of absentee parenting.
When Palin first ran for governor, she assured the media that her husband Todd would quit his job and watch the kids if she won the election. Sarah won the election, and Todd quit his job.
However, Todd couldn't handle the job of being Mr. Mom and went back to work in the oil fields. Being a busy executive, Sarah had no time for her kids, so the little Palins were shipped out to live with relatives. Bristol fell in with “the wrong crowd” in Juneau, and ended up knocked up.
So much for right-wing “family values.”
1 September 2008
at 2:27 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
Puff_Dragon (Anonymous) says…
Another fine bit of information from the LJ Tabloid.
1 September 2008
at 2:29 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
allateup (Anonymous) says…
Hey Todd…..don't worry about Barack's daughter. If she were to wind up pregnant she would have an abortion becase, and I quote, “he wouldn't want her punished with a baby”! Also, wasn't Barack's mother a teenager when she became pregnant?
1 September 2008
at 2:30 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
ASBESTOS (Anonymous) says…
I guess you guys aren't listening to the “Messiah”:
“Obama condemns Palin rumors By charles babington, Associated Press Writer
39 minutes ago
monroe, Mich. - Barack Obama is condemning campaign rumors involving the children of candidates, including Republican vice presidential contender Sarah Palin. ****He says he will fire any campaign worker that violates his rule.***(I guess it is OK for supporters to do this though)
Obama, speaking Monday to reporters in Michigan, said he thinks *****”people's families are off limits, and people's children are especially off limits.”****
Palin, the Alaska governor, announced that her 17-year-old daughter Bristol is five months pregnant. McCain's campaign said the announcement was made in order to knock down rumors that Bristol was actually the mother of Palin's fifth child, who was born in April.
Obama adamantly denied anonymous claims that his campaign helped spread the rumors.”
Well, how about it rubes? You won't listen to me daying it is not good, but you continue to do it, and now here it is in the “Chosen One's” own words.
So there, I a mere GOP member am more in tune with the “messianic Obama” than you one of his supporters are.
The irony!
1 September 2008
at 2:37 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
POCO (Anonymous) says…
Obama: “I am going to teach them first of all about values and morals. But if they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby.”
On the other hand, we find the Palin family standing by a daughter who did not take the easy, quiet way out. They do not see this child as a “punishment”, but will welcome a grandchild with love.
And, what can become of this baby… maybe he/she will be a great leader, the President of this country, a brave military soldier who fights on behalf of our country. This baby will have a future.
And, what would be the future of Obama's girls' mistake? Perhaps, a soiled utility room until “it” breathes no more.
Shame on the liberals who do not see the potential that lives in every child.
1 September 2008
at 2:48 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
JayCat_67 (Anonymous) says…
The saddest part is that at age 17 this girl is going to marry the baby's father. Maybe it will be a long happy marriage, but I wouldn't put money on it. Almost as sad is the fact that a personally trying time for the family is now on public display. This is the level to which the political process has degenerated; both sides pointing fingers then crying foul when the finger points at them, usually over crap that's really noone else's business. But it sells papers and boosts ratings, right? No wonder Colin Powell didn't want to run…
1 September 2008
at 2:50 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
Marion (Marion Lynn) says…
POGO:
According to most “liberals”, Bristol Palin is not carrying a baby but merely a lifeless lump of minerals, fluids and salt water and not a baby at all.
Only when it suits the sick agendas of the “Liberals” are those things in womb referred to as “babies”.
1 September 2008
at 2:51 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
TheSychophant (Anonymous) says…
John McCain: He was for experience before he was agaisnt it.
1 September 2008
at 2:53 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
TheSychophant (Anonymous) says…
You Are right on, Mike Blurr.
1 September 2008
at 2:57 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
JayCat_67 (Anonymous) says…
Before assumptions are made, I'm not saying that the young lady should terminate the pregnancy, just that getting married that young because of a pregnancy usually turns out to be a bad idea. With the support of her family, keeping the baby will still be tough, but at least she'll have some more time go grow up.
1 September 2008
at 3:13 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
scott3460 (Anonymous) says…
“So there, I a mere GOP member am more in tune with the “messianic Obama” than you one of his supporters are.”
No you are not, you just hope the damaging information will stop leaking out. It won't.
There are perfectly legitimate conclusions about Sarah Palin that can be drawn from the information that has been revealed in the last 24 hours:
1. she lusts after the VP job, to the detriment of her children
2. McCain did a horrible, horrible, horrible job of vetting her as a candidate
3. Palin is a hypocrite who wishes to dictate whether someone else may have an abortion, yet relies upon taxpayer resources to afford the consequences of her decision.
4. She is a liar who is claiming she told Congress to keep the Bridge to Nowhere money, but clearly sought the funds while campaigning for her job.
There are many more, I am sure, but these are what immediately spring to mind.
1 September 2008
at 3:13 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
ASBESTOS (Anonymous) says…
“Obama, speaking Monday to reporters in Michigan, said he thinks *****”people's families are off limits, and people's children are especially off limits.”****”
1 September 2008
at 3:19 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
POCO (Anonymous) says…
Marion Lynn says: According to most “liberal”, Bristol Palin is not carrying a baby but merely a lifeless lump of minerals, fluids, salt water and not a baby at all.” Excellent point Marion Lynn.
Again… shame on liberals. As the proud aunt of two fabulous adopted children, I have watched them grow into productive citizens much loved by parents who could not have children of their own. One is a degreed nurse and the other a successful business person. Their lives have enriched our family and will enrich our country and the lives of others.
I never cease to thank their unwed teenage mothers who believed their lives were precious and gave them life instead of destroying their existence. Their biological mothers were brave and did not take the easy out offered by our liberal lawmakers and favored by Obama.
Bristol Palin is brave and has a strong family standing beside her.
1 September 2008
at 3:32 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
Katara (Anonymous) says…
“McCain's campaign said the announcement was made in order to knock down rumors that Bristol was actually the mother of Palin's fifth child, who was born in April.”
I find this more disturbing more than anything. Throw the 17 year old out to the wolves to dispel a rumor??? They deliberately put this pregnant teen into the national spotlight to disprove a rumor? WTF were they thinking? Do they want to win so much that they are willing to sacrifice her daughter's well-being?:
1 September 2008
at 3:38 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
scott3460 (Anonymous) says…
Do they want to win so much that they are willing to sacrifice her daughter's well-being?:
The answer appears to be yes.
I posed the question earlier today, how many mothers out there would go ahead and allow themselves to be nominated for the VP job knowing this would be coming for your minor daughter. Incredible.
1 September 2008
at 3:48 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
POCO (Anonymous) says…
Isn't it better to be pro-active and make an up-front announcement supporting your child… even though she has made a serious mistake?
The fact that her daughter is pregnant would have come out by way of “a leak” and then Sarah Palin would have been accused of a cover-up by the liberals.
Sarah Palin made sure that McCain knew about the issue before she accepted his nomination invitation. She now has informed the world and assured everyone that they will stand beside their daughter.
1 September 2008
at 3:51 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
ebyrdstarr (Anonymous) says…
scott, why limit that question to mothers? This constant reference to a mother doing this to her child is bugging me. I would be just as unimpressed with a father who accepted the vp nomination at this time knowing this was going to come out about his daughter.
1 September 2008
at 3:55 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
scott3460 (Anonymous) says…
” She now has informed the world and assured everyone that they will stand beside their daughter.”
“They” and the Alaska taxpayers, an option most who Ms. Palin seeks to dictate her religious beliefs to do not enjoy.
And yes, the father bears as much blame as the VP candidate, but, believe it or not, I am trying to limit my criticism to those who actually allowed themselves to be thrust in to the media spotlight.
1 September 2008
at 4:01 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
ForThePeople (Anonymous) says…
I'm not buying it. I still think the baby is Bristol's and that this whole “she's five months preggers now” business is just a smokescreen. I'd bet good money that she has a “miscarriage” before the “child” is carried to term. It's all too fishy and as was mentioned, the child has now become the focus, rather than Sarah. Just look at some of the photos of Bristol and Trig together…or at least the ones that haven't been disappeared yet…they speak for themselves.
Personally I couldn't give a rats ass about the whole scenerio, except to say that if Palin will lie about this…what else will she lie about?
1 September 2008
at 4:05 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
POCO (Anonymous) says…
John Edwards, running as a Presidential candidate, certainly thrust himself and his family in front of the spotlight. He did not come forward with a public announcement regarding his “mistake”. Instead, he lied multiple times and embarrassed his cancer-stricken wife and his innocent children.
So, as far as the liberals are concerned.. Edwards is OK and Palin “allowed her family to thrust in the media spotlight”. Super logic.
I hope the liberals will listen to their candidate and leave Sarah Palin's family alone.
1 September 2008
at 4:06 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
Kookamooka (Anonymous) says…
Mom's career always comes first kids. That is just the way it is. Teen pregancy is really “in” right now so I don't think there will be much said about this little blip.
If people reallly cared about things like spousal DWI's George W would have been in big trouble. He's had a few and Laura Bush actually killed someone while driving drunk as a young woman so….just goes to show. No one really cares about this sort of stuff.
1 September 2008
at 4:25 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
beatrice (Anonymous) says…
Poco, did you notice that John Edwards was removed from his spot to speak at the Democratic National Convention? Now, if he is removed, how exactly does that translate as his being “okay” with liberals? It doesn't, which means you were stretching the truth just to make a bogus point. Stick to the facts.
I wish mother and child and family well. No teen should be going through this in a national spotlight — unless her last name is “Spears.”
I just wonder, how can Palin continue to support abstinence only sex ed when she can't even teach it effectively under her own roof? That is the only point I care to make on this personal issue, because that is the issue that actually effects the lives of people outside the Palin family.
1 September 2008
at 4:32 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
POCO (Anonymous) says…
Beatrice… I believe that Edwards started his series of lies long before he was actually “caught”. Questions were asked about his reported affair a long time ago… long before the DNC, long before he ran as a candidate. He confessed to his wife long before both political events. So, I stand behind my post.
1 September 2008
at 4:37 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…
The center word in the article title, above, is “Fails.”
I keep looking, but I have yet to discern a *failure*.
So many critical voices surrounding the addition of but another voice to
the chorus. Mystifying.
1 September 2008
at 4:50 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
beatrice (Anonymous) says…
Poco, you are talking about the lies told by Edwards. Once people learned the truth, then the support was withdrawn. However, you claimed, “So, as far as the liberals are concerned.. Edwards is OK…” If we thought he was OK, why was he removed from speaking at the convention?
Perhaps it was a typo, and you really meant “was” rather than “is.”
Of course, we know about McCain's cheating past, and we know that conservatives think he is OK, now don't we. Care to explain that one?
However, I agree with your hope that the media leaves the Palin's daughter alone, although questions to the mother about her abstinence only stance is perfectly legit since it effects the lives of others.
1 September 2008
at 4:52 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
ScottyMac (Anonymous) says…
Kookamooka (Anonymous) says:
“Laura Bush actually killed someone while driving drunk as a young woman.”
Actually, the police report says that neither driver had been drinking.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/l…
1 September 2008
at 4:53 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
Luxor (Anonymous) says…
Palin's kid is fair game. Palin has pushed the abstinence agenda onto other people's children so her failure to manage her own family makes the stupid, knocked up teenager who is screwing up her whole life by popping this poor child fair game in this case.
1 September 2008
at 4:57 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
ASBESTOS (Anonymous) says…
“”They” and the Alaska taxpayers, an option most who Ms. Palin seeks to dictate her religious beliefs to do not enjoy.”
So the “Public dole” is only for liberals to have illegitimate babies?”
“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”
Snotty also play's the sexist card again:
“There are perfectly legitimate conclusions about Sarah Palin that can be drawn from the information that has been revealed in the last 24 hours:
1. she lusts after the VP job, to the detriment of her children”
So in your little world the women “seed pods” cannot aspire to higher office, only males, the ones that have a penis? The ones with a phallus are the only one to “lust afiter office”?
Why such a narrow mind, and from a lefty?
The Feminists need to stand up now, and that means NOW, to shut up people like Snotty and Katara with their anti woman tirades in the name of partisianship!
What a bunch of loseres.
See just what and why “Character matters.”
1 September 2008
at 5:04 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
allateup (Anonymous) says…
For those who say look at all of the pictures of Bristol with Baby Trig……I have many pictures of my 15 year old daughter holding MY baby so your point is????
1 September 2008
at 5:07 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
lawrencemom (Anonymous) says…
Things happen. Kids get preganant. The only question I see as fair is the judgement to hurl this young girl into the center of a national debate. Her mother knew when she chose to enter this race that her daughter would be subjected to this conversation. She must be thinking “Thanks alot,Mom”.
1 September 2008
at 5:09 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
ndmoderate (Anonymous) says…
I wonder if young Bristol Palin knew anything about birth control?
When young Bristol gets married to the father of her baby (did you see how the Palin campaign announced the impending wedding…wonder how the father feels about this), can we call it a Shotgun Wedding, or would Harpoon Gun Wedding be more appropriate?
1 September 2008
at 5:14 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
scott3460 (Anonymous) says…
“So the “Public dole” is only for liberals to have illegitimate babies?”
Of course not, Asbestos, I am simply noting the hypocrisy of Ms. Palin. She thinks it perfectly OK to impose her religious beliefs on the citizenry that may, or may not, share the same religious convictions, but she expects the taxpayers to provide her the financial support needed as a direct result of her “choice.” Were she a private citizen, footing the bill for her personal choice, I would agree that she is to be praised. As it stands, she is simply transferring the cost of her choice to the taxpayers - an option she allows herself, but does not afford others.
1 September 2008
at 5:16 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
ASBESTOS (Anonymous) says…
“….or would Harpoon Gun Wedding be more appropriate?”
With all the testiness in this little “Blog” I like the humor in this post and enjoyed a laugh. I bet the “young man” got more than a bit of an earful from Bristol's Mom and Dad.
Would you really want to get a girl pregnant if mom and dad were both fast on a snowmobile and a good shot with a rifle?
1 September 2008
at 5:27 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
Marion (Marion Lynn) says…
I will give H.Obama credit for this one though:
“Sen. Barack Obama said firmly that families are off-limits in the campaign for president, reacting to news that GOP running mate Sarah Palin's 17-year-old daughter is pregnant.
Sen. Barack Obama campaigns in Monroe, Michigan, on Monday.
“Let me be as clear as possible,” Obama said. “I think people's families are off-limits, and people's children are especially off-limits. This shouldn't be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as governor or her potential performance as a vice president.”
Obama said reporters should “back off these kinds of stories” and noted that he was born to an 18-year-old mother.
“How a family deals with issues and teenage children, that shouldn't be the topic of our politics, and I hope that anybody who is supporting me understands that's off-limits.”
http://www.cnn.com/2008/politics/09/0…
Although I suspect the real reason is that he doesn't want his own extended family subjected to much scrutiny.
1 September 2008
at 5:28 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
POCO (Anonymous) says…
How critical the liberals seem to be with regard to Bristol Palin who chose to keep her child alive. I guess if she had a liberal-condoned abortion, she would have been lauded.
It's also interesting that the liberals have selective hearing when their leader has asked them to leave the children and families of the candidates alone.
1 September 2008
at 5:37 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
scott3460 (Anonymous) says…
“It's also interesting that the liberals have selective hearing when their leader has asked them to leave the children and families of the candidates alone.”
Most of the posts here have concerned pointing out the failings of Ms. Palin & the hypocrisy of her policy positions, all of which are fair game.
1 September 2008
at 6:06 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
KSWatch (Todd Epp) says…
If Bristol Palin were just another 17 year old, she would be off limits.
If Bristol's mom hadn't made such a big deal out of being anti-choice and pro-abstinence education, Bristol would be off limits.
But this is the intersection of personal life and policy. Teenagers make all sorts of stupid mistakes. That's part of growing up. But mom—and now the Right—wants it both ways. Apparently out of wedlock kids are ok if Republicans have them. That seems to be the message, not that it is our duty as parents to try to keep our unmarried kids from getting pregnant (or impregnating others) before they are ready to take on the responsibility.
Again, if this were the Obamas, we'd hear about how bad they are as parents. Instead, we hear about how good Mama Palin is. The truth is somewhere inbetween.
Todd Epp
Kansas Watch http://kswatch.squarespace.com
1 September 2008
at 6:08 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
ASBESTOS (Anonymous) says…
No Snotty, most perople were not “pointing out the failings of Ms. Palin”, you were sticking your nose into an issue that has nothing to do with the publicicy, and the blog author's first statment is:
“Sarah Palin's 17-year-old , unmarried daughter is five months pregnant, the campaign has announced. ”
Of sourse this is a hatchet job on a 17 year old that happens to be pregnant, and transferring that to “shame ofn the parents”. Your Ideas of “fair game” are pretty warped, and your judgement is even worse.
ONE more time for the slow Obama supporters:
“Sen. Barack Obama campaigns in Monroe, Michigan, on Monday.
“Let me be as clear as possible,” Obama said. “I think people's families are off-limits, and people's children are especially off-limits. This shouldn't be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as governor or her potential performance as a vice president.”
Obama said reporters should “back off these kinds of stories” and noted that he was born to an 18-year-old mother.
“How a family deals with issues and teenage children, that shouldn't be the topic of our politics, and I hope that anybody who is supporting me understands that's off-limits.”“
That was your leader,..
now ***knock it off***!!!
1 September 2008
at 6:09 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
Mr_Nancy_Boy_To_You (Tom Shewmon) says…
Absolutely! This is much worse news and puts the nation in infinitely more peril than Obama's sitting on a committee with Ayers, a self-confessed US terrrorists and bomber who killed at least two Americans on US soil and the fact that Obama was installed in the Illinois senate unchallenged, with the aid of the Democratic Socialist Party, and that Obama and his wife marinated in the hateful, racist and divisive Black Liberation Theology for 20 years and that Obama acquired his house as a favor from a convicted felon and that Obama was mentored in Hawaii by Frank Davis, a Communist.
Yes, Palins' pregnant daughter is a serious threat to America.
1 September 2008
at 6:28 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
Katara (Anonymous) says…
asbestos (Anonymous) says: The Feminists need to stand up now, and that means NOW, to shut up people like Snotty and Katara with their anti woman tirades in the name of partisianship!
What a bunch of loseres.
See just what and why “Character matters.”
WTF? I question her claim about the bridge to nowhere and now I'm anti-woman? I question the wisdom of promoting an abstinence only education and I'm anti-woman?
I'll just have to request you to put your money where your mouth is, Asbestos, and find any post of mine that is anti-woman.
1 September 2008
at 6:38 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
Marion (Marion Lynn) says…
Don't worry Todd; we will start on H.Obama.
1 September 2008
at 6:41 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
Katara (Anonymous) says…
Anonymous user
asbestos (Anonymous) says:
No Snotty, most perople were not “pointing out the failings of Ms. Palin”, you were sticking your nose into an issue that has nothing to do with the publicicy, and the blog author's first statment is:
“Sarah Palin's 17-year-old , unmarried daughter is five months pregnant, the campaign has announced. ”
Of sourse this is a hatchet job on a 17 year old that happens to be pregnant, and transferring that to “shame ofn the parents”. Your Ideas of “fair game” are pretty warped, and your judgement is even worse.
~~~~~~~~
No, Asbestos. The hatchet job here is by McCain's campaign who is the one that gave the sole reason for Palin having to announce her daughter's pregnancy was to dispel a RUMOR that Trig was Bristol's kid.
Has it occurred to you that there were many ways to dispel that RUMOR that did not involve throwing her daughter out to the wolves?
This was not a supportive parent decision. Both Palin and McCain should be completely ashamed as to how they handled this. They have put a ton of unnecessary stress on this girl at a time in her life where she needs as little as possible. How can this announcement be even remotely in her daughter's best interest? As a parent, you just don't do that.
1 September 2008
at 6:50 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
beatrice (Anonymous) says…
Start? So then what was all this “hussein,” “he's a Muslim,” “his wife hates whitey,” “he hates women,” “he's a socialist,” stuff if not a start?
Tom, have you ever been on a committee? Did you make sure to do a background check on each person before taking part? After the meetings, did you make sure and hang out and do intimate things with each member that informed who you are as a person? Please, if you aren't talking about Obama but just about people who may have spent some time around Obama, then give it a rest. Remember, if you are doing that, then be sure to point out that McCain still is a friend of George W. Bush.
Regarding Palin and the VP position, here is what she had to say about the position back in Aug. 1, 2008:
“But as for that VP talk all the time, I'll tell you, I still can't answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day?”
http://www.cnbc.com/id/25970197
McCain was for experience before he was against it.
Obama / Biden ! Leadership, intelligence, and experience.
1 September 2008
at 7:12 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
ASBESTOS (Anonymous) says…
“No, Asbestos. The hatchet job here is by McCain's campaign who is the one that gave the sole reason for Palin having to announce her daughter's pregnancy was to dispel a RUMOR that Trig was Bristol's kid.”
That was a smear from a far left bolg, and untrue.
So there was nothing to dispel.
You know about “Rumors” like the one Obama haters repeat about his “muslim” faith? I don't buy that nor do I care about that rumor.
The real question is why would you respond to that ugly “rumor” that was not true?
That is what I mean here, you liberals have lost your way. If there are any “feminists” left in the DNC, I bet they are just PO'ed at people like you and Bea, whom should know better, you are women.
1 September 2008
at 7:13 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
ASBESTOS (Anonymous) says…
ome more time for the rabid bomb throwing Obama supporters. This is from your leader, the chosen one, the Messiah, Obama:
“ONE more time for the slow Obama supporters:
“Sen. Barack Obama campaigns in Monroe, Michigan, on Monday.
“Let me be as clear as possible,” Obama said. “I think people's families are off-limits, and people's children are especially off-limits. This shouldn't be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as governor or her potential performance as a vice president.”
Obama said reporters should “back off these kinds of stories” and noted that he was born to an 18-year-old mother.”
1 September 2008
at 7:14 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
ASBESTOS (Anonymous) says…
If Obama doesn't command you, what good is he as President?
1 September 2008
at 7:19 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
beatrice (Anonymous) says…
RR: “Okay, we now have permission to discuss the Messiah's family. Should we begin with his Muslim upbringing?”
Are we kidding? Like you haven't been trying to pin the bogus Muslim claim on Obama for months.
McCain has chastized his followers not to use the “Hussein” garbage, yet so many have continued to do so. Guess McCain is a poor leader, too.
1 September 2008
at 7:41 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
BrianR (Anonymous) says…
Abstinence Education Fails. That is the real story. I can happen to anyone, get over it.
1 September 2008
at 7:48 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
scott3460 (Anonymous) says…
“scott3460:
“1. she lusts after the VP job, to the detriment of her children”
This is blatantly sexist.”
I disagree, but that is beside the point. You McCain apologists claim that I, and others, have gone too far in criticizing the family and child of Ms. Palin. I ask for evidence & all you can show is that I claimed that she, Gov. Sarah Palin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, lusted after the VP position to the detriment of her family. That is ridiculous.
If you put 100 women (and men - don't want to be sexist) in a room and said, you can have the VP nomination, but it means putting your teenaged daughter through an emotionally damaging public trauma, 99 of the 100 people would decline the job. Gov. Palin chose, that's right chose!, not to do so. And this hypocrite wants to impose her religious beliefs on the country!
1 September 2008
at 7:50 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
snap_pop_no_crackle (Anonymous) says…
todd's been a busy lad this long weekend.
You should have taken a moment to check in with Obama before posting this tripe.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/politics/09/0…
1 September 2008
at 8:05 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
scott3460 (Anonymous) says…
“You're a pathetic, little “man.”“
Took the intellectual route, I see.
Your opinion matters not at all to me, although I do take some comfort in seeing folks like you reduced to name calling because you cannot marshall an argument in response. Ms. Palin better think up something better than that, however.
1 September 2008
at 8:06 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
Katara (Anonymous) says…
RestoreReason (Anonymous) says:
Where have I said that I am a McCain follower? Just because I oppose the Messiah does not mean I support McCain.
~~~~~~~
You mind passing along that reasoning to Asbestos? Apparently he's under the incorrect impression that because one questions one candidate, that makes one a rabid supporter of the other candidate.
I'd appreciate it greatly. ;)
1 September 2008
at 8:17 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
scott3460 (Anonymous) says…
And now the close your eyes, hold your breath and pretend it's not true route. Very nice. It's been a real tour d'force from the McCain apologists today.
Oh well, direct your anger at Gramps and his advisors, their the ones who picked this dud. Guess the Hail Mary's falling a little short. Bummer.
1 September 2008
at 8:24 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
ASBESTOS (Anonymous) says…
Snotty either is ageist with McCain calling him derogatorially “gramps”:
“Oh well, direct your anger at Gramps and his advisors, their the ones who picked this dud. Guess the Hail Mary's falling a little short. Bummer.”
Or Snotty is being “sexist” calling Palin a “Five tiome baby popper”.
I would watch what and how you say it. Voters femals and older of both genders vote quite consistently, and do not like a party hassling “one of their own”.
So Keep up the work, it has been fun getting you guys to foam at the mouth full throttle, for the entire internet to see. You have given insight to the electorate and America at large into your political positions and your character. It appears as if winning is more important to you than character or truth.
Thank you and your help in electing McCain in 2008.
Good job, and keep alienating women and older voters, we will welcome and defend them.
1 September 2008
at 8:29 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
Katara (Anonymous) says…
asbestos (Anonymous) says:
“No, Asbestos. The hatchet job here is by McCain's campaign who is the one that gave the sole reason for Palin having to announce her daughter's pregnancy was to dispel a RUMOR that Trig was Bristol's kid.”
That was a smear from a far left bolg, and untrue.
So there was nothing to dispel.
~~~
Really?
“McCain aides said the announcement about the pregnancy of Palin's daughter, Bristol, was aimed at rebutting Internet rumors that Palin's own youngest son, born in April, was actually the daughter's.”
http://cbs3.com/topstories/mccain.pal…
If there was nothing to dispel, then why announce the pregnancy and force a teen mother into the national spotlight? This cannot be healthy for her daughter. Why put the girl under even more stress? She is already a high risk pregnancy due to her age and now with the added extra stress, this just adds to the chance of a pregnancy with complications. I don't think anyone wishes that upon this girl.
I say decisions like this one made by Palin and McCain (just to dispel a rumor) show poor judgment and a lack of long-term thinking. There is no sense that they understand how their actions af