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The Lawrence We Remember: Things We Miss


Tonight's beautiful weather got me to thinking about some of the things that we used to have in town, particularly those I miss.

Here are some of the things I fondly remember.

  1. The train in Watson Park without the fence. I know it really wasn't safe without a fence around it, but there is something about climbing on a real steam engine!
  2. A movie theater downtown. Another little thing that my kids never got to experience.
  3. And talking about theaters, what about the drive-in? Another experience our kids have missed.
  4. Miniature golf. I don't think I've ever forgiven Douglas County Bank. Don't know if the story I'd heard is true, but I know that Putt-Putt is gone and a bank is there.
  5. The rocket at ArrowheadBroken Arrow Park. Does anyone remember the playset nearby? I always thought it looked like a hamburger.

Is there anything you miss that I haven't mentioned?

Of course there is a theater downtown--Liberty Hall. I should have specifically mentioned the Granada and Varsity which tease us because the signs remain but the theaters are long gone.


RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

  1. the hard rubber tired antique fire truck in South Park

  2. Allen's Drive In on 23rd Street

  3. The Congo Bar in North Lawrence

  4. Busy B's Market in North Lawrence (Sunday Beer!)

  5. Yuk Up and Yuk Down at 9th and Iowa

(2 drive-ins, west 6th for Sunset, Lawrence Drive In where Malls on 23rd now sits)

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

  1. Lawrence Dragway(?), 1/8th mile drag strip off Drag Strip Road ( Wakarusa Drive) near where Stoneback Drive goes west

  2. Golf driving range at Southwest corner of 23rd and Harper

  3. Go-cart track near where Hertz building on East 23rd sits

  4. Roller skating rink at Southeast corner of 23rd and Haskell

  5. The Sirloin restaurant on North Third

TacoBob 8 years, 3 months ago

Griff's hamburger joint on 23rd

Sandy's near 9th and Iowa

The jet in Centenial Park


The abandonned building (frat house?) overlooking 9th Street

TGY's (I think) in the mall at 23rd and Louisiana

George's Hobby Shop

Disco place with the Merc is/was (Paladium)

Red Lion (darlin)

The Stables


Library at when it was on 9th

Kief's in the original location, then the second one. Lots of vinyl and awesome stereo equipment

RMS downtown

And many more....

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

  1. Georges Hobby Shop downtown

  2. Leo Beuerman selling pencils downtown

  3. A&P Grocery, NE corner 11th & Mass

  4. Drakes Bakery south of Weavers

  5. Old hardware store, north end of Mass on west side, antique farm machinery hanging from walls and ceiling (can't remember name of store)

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

TacoBob, Was the frat house Theta Chi? remember it well after it was abandoned and before!

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

  1. The Harbour (pre Harbour Lights) downtown

  2. Hopkins Sheet Metal downtown (metal man in front window)

  3. Wooden Indian in front of tobacco shop downtown

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

  1. Hangmans tree (favored 'oops' out of gas spot for couples) off #6 road (Clinton Parkway)

SusieCreamcheeze 8 years, 3 months ago

The Gaslight tavern-on the hill

Vista drivein - 6th

Bierstube- tenn

Rock Chalk - on the hill

Squeezers palace-on the hill

That resturant downtown with the paintings on the wall and the booths in the middle

The ice cream place down by the Red dog Inn

the Red Dog Inn

Stricks in North Lawrence

Sac's on Iowa

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

  1. Sand bar parties on river road to Lecompton

  2. Lawrence Ice Company (when they sold ice!)

  3. Garrett's Market (produce)

  4. Julie's restaurant (where Earl May's is now)

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

Dave, Ask and you will receive............

David Klamet 8 years, 3 months ago

Drag strip, the old fire engine. How could I forget those!

And I do remember the sheet metal man and a few of the other things mentioned. I was raised in Linwood so I'm not nearly as familiar with Lawrence of that era as you two.

Never knew there was a go kart track. Darn. I would have liked that. Too bad there is nothing like that now. In fact it seems to me there isn't much like that to do anymore.

SusieCreamcheeze 8 years, 3 months ago

RoeDapple (Anonymous) says… 26. Hangmans tree (favored 'oops' out of gas spot for couples) off #6 road (Clinton Parkway)

Do you mean the drive way to the farm that is where the fire station was on 23 ( Clinton ) and Lawrence ave?

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

There were two?


No, farther out, next light after Kasold...

Weezy_Jefferson 8 years, 3 months ago

  1. Woolworth's downtown

  2. Fun and Games when it was downtown

  3. The "X-Treme" Christian t-shirt shop downtown that went out of business and became the tattoo place. That place was hilarious.

  4. Alley Cat record store downtown

  5. Town Crier and Terra Nova bookstores

  6. Everything But Ice

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

I knew the streets of Larryville better then than I do now. Had a bicycle with a steering wheel instead of handle bars and extended front forks I rode everywhere when 13/14

David Klamet 8 years, 3 months ago

Before it was Sac's wasn't it Gibson's? I seem to remember the Gibson's had photographic paper and chemicals along with a lot of other stuff. I used to develop my own film and print pictures.

SusieCreamcheeze 8 years, 3 months ago

Well Roe I guess I was never there with you...LOL

And we must not forget "Susie Creamcheeze" 1008 Mass. next to General Jeans.

Kim Kerns head shop on Mass "Strawberry Fields"

The Sandalwood -on the hill next to the gaslight

Gypsy rags one of many shops on ninth between Mass and vermont

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago



RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

Dave, what was the name of the grocery southeast of linwood school, maybe same as out on 32 now? Used to sneak over there in '61 during lunch time and buy huge Baby Ruth candy bars for a nickel.

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

Sunflower Surplus when it was an army surplus store

Amy Bartle 8 years, 3 months ago

Paradise Grill - miss the orange roughy, the manicotti, the breakfasts, the great wait staff.

Bluebird Cafe - miss the breakfast and the coffee

River City Lobster Bar - didn't last long - had great seafood.

Alvin's grocery store where the Merc is now located.

Ballet classes off New Hamshire offered by the Arts Center - Used to walk to Henry's for coffee after dance class.

Tin Pan Alley - they had great food and a cool atmosphere.

Coco Loco's -great dance parties downtown!

The kids section of the Gap downtown BEFORE they took it away and put it back. It's not as good now.

Dollar Movies where Maximus is now.

Vintage Junk - I think they are still around but it's not done the same.

I have not lived here as long as others who have posted the things that they miss.

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

Not you weird susie, my bike!

Unless you were 'out of gas' from '65 through '68 it probably wasn't me! (Sounds like I ran outa gas a lot, huh? Not!)

David Klamet 8 years, 3 months ago

RD. I can't recall, but I don't think it is the same. At least there was no store in town for a number of years after the one on Main St. closed.

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago


susie is..................



Nah, couldn't be!

Matt Toplikar 8 years, 3 months ago

1) Fantasy Land roller rink.(33rd & Iowa) 2) Aladdin's Castle. (Near Pizza Shuttle) 3) Paradise Cafe. (Where Vermont St. BBQ is now) 4) The big, dangerous, metal rocketship in Broken Arrow Park. Also, merry-go-rounds in general. 5) West Lawrence having farms-- and countryside that you could fish and camp in. 6) The Lazer before it was bought out. 7) Driving through dirt roads to get to the YSI soccer fields. 8) Donuts from Carol Lee's or Joe's Bakery 9) The Pirate Punk House 10) The Java Break when it had a library in the back. 11) The crazy, whacked-out design of South Jr. High School (and its murals).

Recent Casualties 12) Lawrence.com Deadwood Edition 13) The Cheese Shop. 14) Yello-Sub on campus

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

Multi, Took Mrs Roe on first date to Putt Putt on 23rd. Never could master that windmill!

(Yeah, yeah, I've heard about it many times over the years..... "Putt Putt? My what a romantic evening that must have been")

Mike Blur 8 years, 3 months ago

In 1981, I called up Karen Barber at the Lazer and requested the Clash "Train in Vain" and she laughed out loud at my suggestion. Several years later, the Lazer incorporated several Clash songs in their rotation, and I felt vindicated. And stopped listening.

The Lazer has sucked for three decades. Always has, always will. (Jeff Petterson's show excepted.)

Cindy Wallace 8 years, 3 months ago

I can't believe no one mentioned Earl's Pizza!!! and what about the Jayhawk Plunge....known later as the "Olympic"?

SusieCreamcheeze 8 years, 3 months ago

French fries at the drug store at Hillcrest after school

Sking at Mount Blue or Blue Mound

What was that building on Mass (10th block) with the bars on the window...before they filled in all the empty lots on the east side? It was small and stood alone. Painted blue at one time.

And the candy and toy store next to the theaters

and the balcony at the Varsity theater

The Zoo doo hut

And there was a private club out on 24 highway...on the west side..great dance place

RoeDapple (Anonymous) says…


susie is………………



Nah, couldn't be!

Roe.....I was in the back seat with your best friend ...LOL

SusieCreamcheeze 8 years, 3 months ago

And Lawrence Peters...grand wash board player and waiter at the Paradise

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

SusieCreamcheeze (Anonymous) says… "Roe…..I was in the back seat with your best friend …LOL"

I knew it! I knew IT!!!

Dang he always dated the prettiest girls!


Do you still have the longest legs in Eastern Ks?

asbury 8 years, 3 months ago

This is great!! How about Raney's snack bar on Mass. St.? If you went to Central "cherry ice" was the order of the day!

schula 8 years, 3 months ago

Paradise Cafe -- spent many memorable Saturday mornings sitting at the bar eating breakfast.

Jonathan Kealing 8 years, 3 months ago

Though I didn't grow up in Lawrence, I grew up with my parents bringing me up to Lawrence many a weekend. Without a doubt, "the fire engine park" was my all-time favorite place to go. When they took the real fire truck out and replaced it with that silly fake fire truck, my childhood was changed forever!

Scott Drummond 8 years, 3 months ago

Peking Restaurant near Iowa and 23rd, circa 1992-95. Made the best, best, best Kung Pao chicken in the world. Must have gained 20 pounds eating that stuff.

Putt Putt golf and batting cages!. I too vowed never to support that bank whose name shall never be uttered. Kept my promise too.

May not have this right, but was it "Vista?" Great burger and especially shakes place out on 6th street.

Don's Steakhouse. Have traveled the world, but one of the best steak meals ever was at Don's

hedshrinker 8 years, 3 months ago

Insane shows at Hoch Aud on KU campus before it burned down: Funkadelics and Peter Tosh were 2 of the most memorable. Sunday AM at Bob's ??? at 14th and Mass and then working Sunday AM breakfast rush at Sister Kettle. Tredo's , Pentimento., salad bar across from ghetto Dillon's, Kroger's on 23rd, the Big Eat, the Salad Bowl in South Park, the Vortex underground paper, Newsreel. Dancing toTofu Teddy, Paradise on Sunday AM when it was in Baldwin, the Billtown Cafe pie, breakfast at the Hardware Cafe in Perry. How could the original author say they missed downtown movies when we have Liberty Hall, usually the best indy films in town. When going to Taco Grande on 23rd or Gibson's on Iowa was a major expedition. driving old 10 hiway to KC.

Ralph Reed 8 years, 3 months ago

@scott3460 You're right about the Vista on 6th. My sister got a shake there every time she came back to town. She almost cried when I told her it was gone.

  • Dinamite (sp?) Restaurant on 23rd street.
  • Eating pizza at the Campus Hideaway with all the Bier Steins on shelves around the top of the room. *The open fields and farms west of Iowa between 23rd and 15th. There used to be a working dairy farm on west 15th if I remember correctly.
  • Hwy 40 instead of I70.
  • KUBBs and KUFFs
  • Sitting on Campanile hill and watching fireworks on the 4th of July.
  • Soap in the Chi Omega fountain.
  • Keiler's (sp? again) Book Store
  • The sidewalk bazarre lasting from Thursday through Saturday.

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

Still have my pewter with plastic see-thru bottom stein from the Stables

Stable 112 'boldly' etched on front. Leaked from day 1. Retired to holding quarters on night stand.

David Klamet 8 years, 3 months ago

I recall going to a doctor who had a 2nd floor office downtown on Mass. Are there any offices downtown anymore?

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

my ophthalmologist used to be upstairs in the bank , NW corner of 7th and Mass. My dentist was on the east side in the 900 block. both moved and/or retired now

SandCoAlmanac 8 years, 3 months ago

Voo Doo Hut on Friday nights. $1 pitcher nights back then, when a pitcher held ... oh, I dunno ... a coupla gallons, I guess. Live band sometimes, although when my roommate asked to play the drums for 'Wipe Out,' they wouldn't let him near the drums again. He was so much better than their drummer! Good times staggering back to student hovel.

oldvet 8 years, 3 months ago

George's Tobacco Shop on Mass, right around 7th, if I recall. He had a large wooden indian statue that he would put on the sidewalk and "When the indian is out, George is in. When the indian is in, George is out".

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago







(anybody notice. Roe speechless....................)

Will this affect my standing on posts per day?

jeffpetterson 8 years, 3 months ago

Having moved away in 2005, I have found myself missing everything about Lawrence especially the people. I really miss Free State, Yello Sub, walking on campus, Liberty Hall, and everything downtown. Consider yourself lucky to still have these things in you life! I also miss being live on the Lazer of the 90s...during the Alternative days and the amazing local music from the scene. I would love to someday come back!

SusieCreamcheeze 8 years, 3 months ago

Wow how could I for get Tredo's....LOL

Sorry Roe...I was the girl with the beautiful eyes

and there were 500 in the class of 67 and plenty came before and after that.

trying to fig out who hedshrinker is

1408 Kentucky...whit and the boys

Jersey_Girl 8 years, 3 months ago

Jonathon - are you a workaholic? I can't believe you're on a Sunday!

secrettoalonglife 8 years, 3 months ago

Norwegian Wood. Turner's Bait Shop (before it was the Community Mercantile)

been_there 8 years, 3 months ago

Did anyone mention the pet shop in east Lawrence with the alligator (crocodile?)?

been_there 8 years, 3 months ago

Kiem's Restaurant, Shorty's Restaurant on Mass, and horse drawn ice cream trucks.

been_there 8 years, 3 months ago

Rock Chalk cafe, the White house, and Billy Spears beautiful ice carvings.

Ron Holzwarth 6 years, 3 months ago

I have a Squeezer's Palace menu from years ago.

And NO, you can't have it!

kansasmutt 8 years, 3 months ago

Traders Pawn Shop downtown ----------------------------------- Dairy King 6th & Florida -------------------------------------------- Yes Griffs hamburgers, yummy ----------------------------------- Smacks Drive In on 23rd ------------------------------------------- 4 Wheel drive trails at 6th & Iowa SW corner ------------------ KLWN Treasure hunts, found 2 of them ------------------------ Drive in west 6th for sure - Drag Strip for sure - Moore Burger for sure - Sandy`s yummy . And good streets and when you could walk around town and enjoy it. You had no worries nor cares, just walked everyplace.

JakeHawk 8 years, 3 months ago

Amigos at the original location on 23rd...and then the secondary location on 23rd. The Rock Shop on the east side of town on K10. Cheap football tickets. We used to get free tickets if we bought 2 packets of toilet paper at Alvins. haha.

The rest of mine have been mentioned by I will second: Vista Drive-In (Gotta love fries in a cup) Sac's Everything but Ice Dos Hombres on New Hampshire The real 105.9 The Lazer (I'm still in mourning) Movies at the Varsity Theatre

secrettoalonglife 8 years, 3 months ago

Trail's End (19th and Mass.) King's Restaurant (23rd and Naismith), Casa de Taco, Sambo's Restaurant, The Chuck Wagon. Don's Steak House on Highway 59.

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

Marion, I had a '55 chevy 2dr hardtop, 283, big holley, Edlebrock, dual point, 3030 duntov, Hedman, clutch that would make your knee shake, close ratio 4 speed, 5.13 gears on posi, 15" rims with 9" wide smoothies at 4psi out back. Those bleach burn outs were legendary! Headers open and dump the clutch in second gear, ride the brake pedal just so and leave 2 black stripes for 1/4 mile or more! The time of our lives, and now I just grin when I see it elsewhere

xdcr 8 years, 3 months ago

Roe Dapple says.... Old farm store at the north end of Mass St. West side 600 block. " Green Bro's " Grandparents of the owners of " Green Cons't " -----------Remember the "Chateau" Resturant at the north end of Dillons parking lot on Mass?

byhsgrc 8 years, 3 months ago

does anyone remember "THE BIG BLUE WAVE" water slide on 6th street by Iowa? Or the skating cart that used to be downtown by John's Novelty where you could rent rollerskates and skate on the sidewalks downtown/

David Klamet 8 years, 3 months ago

Miniature golf, go-karts, skating rink, drag strip, arcade. I wish there were still things like that to do.

Especially the go-karts!

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

Thanks xdcr, hoped someone would come up with the name. Don't remember the Chateau, but remember the building getting torn down to make more parking for Dillon's

xdcr 8 years, 3 months ago

10-40 club Dynamite Club Dixon's Drive-in Big Buy Drive-in Blevins Harley Davison ( and bike shop)

Kraft Implement-International Harvester-- located in the old street trolley barn-- the building south of Dillons on Mass.

xdcr 8 years, 3 months ago

P.S. I still have a '55 chevy hardtop-- tricked out

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

Don't let me see it xdcr, you would have to have me physically removed!


RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

Town Crier humidor, Oh yeah! Colombian cigarillos, smoked them for a short while after quitting cigarettes. when the Crier closed I never smoked again..................

xdcr 8 years, 3 months ago

Defenestrator ... Before "El Mezcal" on 23rd St.----- "Winners Chicken"

SusieCreamcheeze 8 years, 3 months ago

Steve Tuckel had a Chevy...I threw a coke on it at Allens in 1966..lived to tell about it.

Sorry I have run out o places to remember

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

Lucky you SusieC! I remember Tuckel being anal to the extreme about his cars! Drove it very slowly out of Allen's one night because it was misting rain and had never been rained on since he bought it!

TopJayhawk 8 years, 3 months ago

Remember Boudakan's headshop off of Mass. about seventh street? Used to love that place.

I miss being able to park about ten feet from the south entrance to Allen Fieldhouse in the empty field that is now the ball diamonds.

I miss the "big band" at b-ball games at AFH.

I miss being able to set up an open bar in the upper reaches at AFH...........those were the days.

Harpo 8 years, 3 months ago

Wow! Just got around to reading this thread. Thanks for the wonderful trip down memory lane. Did anyone mention TG&Y in The Malls at 23rd and Louisiana? I believe it was next to George's, a few doors down from the original Kiefs location. We used to stop there on our way home from Centennial (before Broken Arrow opened). You could get a foot long licorice whip for a penny!

Harpo 8 years, 3 months ago

Correction: a yard for a penny. A nickel's worth would last all the way home!

Hokti 8 years, 3 months ago

Moore Burgers, Cornucopia, Borgen's liquor

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

Harpo, My first job! Assembling bicycles at TG&Y for the Christmas rush, 1962. Got them all put together in three days after the manager told me he had a weeks worth of work for me. He handed me a broom and said I could clean the back room. Seems to me every job since then has had a broom attached

Kookamooka 8 years, 3 months ago

And really...the only reasons I can think of that those places aren't still around or that creative, excited people haven't restored them to our community are 1. developers paid them off on 23rd street with HUGE cash sums so that all we are allowed to do for "recreation" is shop and 2. developers and landlords kept rent so abnormally high that anyone with a good idea and a plan couldn't afford to stay in business. Something has to give.

Aisling 8 years, 3 months ago

Valentino's and Rax restaurant was on 23rd were a few places on 23rd street that I still miss sometimes. Let me see, going into 'Strawberry Fields' with my sister b/c she told me it was a head shop and I expected severed heads or something. Walking from the pool to my grandparents house at 22nd and Tenn Street and seeing kids dancing around wearing american flags (sometimes just american flags) and at one point trying to walk with my sister covering my eyes (not sure what I wasn't supposed to see). Has anyone read the book 'Noble Chaos' by Brent Green?

Jersey_Girl 8 years, 3 months ago

I miss when small town downtown when it was for Lawrence residents with the two theaters, Woolworths, Raney's Drug Store and more. Now it seems like everything caters to the students.

puddleglum 8 years, 3 months ago

-can't believe that no one has mentioned the Outhouse on 15th east of town....lots of good punk rock in the 80's all the way up to 1990.

-the dragstrip was the best thing about this town, when will marioni build one?

-defense:"What was the Mexican restaurant way before it became El Mezcal? Someone will remember it. Loved it!" it was called amigos

-Jennings daylight donuts -the Rax on 23rd (just cool because it was different) -The diner inside the woolworths (more stainless steel than you can imagine)

R.E.M. at hoch Nirvana at the student Union Nirvana at the Outhouse

puddleglum 8 years, 3 months ago

the off the wall hall down on new hampshire street.

and the Richard's music across the street- when chuck Meade and Richard and John worked there

puddleglum 8 years, 3 months ago

others already mentioned: Paradise Drive -in theaters the horrible popcorn at 'incest' movie theater (dickinson) cheese shoppe MOJO's was so good, but poor finacial management (but what do you expect if you are going to not answer the phone during KU b-ball games)

puddleglum 8 years, 3 months ago

the little firestation at 19th & mass... still there but now empty.

The phillips 66 on 19 th & mass-still had the huge metal awning when I worked there long ago.

The Mazzio's building being empty for sale for over 2 decades. (gotta be a record)

puddleglum 8 years, 3 months ago

2 questions: the name of the hobby shop in north lawrence in the early 80's

what did the huge and dangerous spaceship in broken arrow look like? any photos?

50YearResident 8 years, 3 months ago

We can come full circle, remember the trolley (1940's)going from downtown Mass St, across the river into North Lawrence and down the first right turn to the end and returnning to Mass St. Now I hear talk of a new trolley.

miker 8 years, 3 months ago

Hole In The Wall Sandwiches , delivered !

Jersey_Girl 8 years, 3 months ago

Joe's Bakery The drive-in on Sixth (the only one I remember) Woolworths Raney Drug Store (getting all my school supplies in a box) The Hole in the Wall The two theaters downtown Hillcrest theaters Cinema Twin The skating rink The feel of Lawrence before all the chain stores and restaurants got here The feel of Lawrence when it still belonged to the residents and not the students

puddleglum 8 years, 3 months ago

j-girl-"The feel of Lawrence before all the chain stores and restaurants got here The feel of Lawrence when it still belonged to the residents and not the students"


puddleglum 8 years, 3 months ago

was sambo's the same spot as Big Boy's on Iowa?

JSDAD 8 years, 3 months ago

blue73harley (Anonymous) says…

Multi - yep the Pig was on 23rd before it moved north of town. Now, for bonus points, what did their sign in the window say?

free beer tomorrow

xdcr 8 years, 3 months ago

I beleive the Purple Pig in the early 60's was on the north east corner of 8th & N.H.------------------" Mrs Winners Chicken" was built in 1983 or '84. Where El Mezcal is located on 23rd. I was a sub-contracror on the new building.

xdcr 8 years, 3 months ago

Sorry! southeast corner--- The Pig

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

Mrs Roe once had a flat tire before we had cell phones. While she sat waiting, a three wheel contraption that sounded like 15 Harleys pulled up behind her with a hairy wild man riding it. She locked the doors, grabbed her keys and pepper spray and waited while this scary looking biker walked up to the drivers door. When he tapped on the window she slowly turned to meet his eyes. In recognizing him she smiled and said,"Oh thank God, Richard! It's you!"

The world lost one of the best when Richard Wright passed away, but somewhere he is helping where he can, and always will. Not sure if I know you, blue. I know we both lost someone we could trust with our lives and wives the day he died.

RIP Richard

been_there 8 years, 3 months ago

Sambo's was where the Jade mongolian restaurant is now and I think next to it was Country Kitchen.

been_there 8 years, 3 months ago

Loved the Hawks Nest. I was hearbroken when I went back to find the small library-reading room in the Student Union that had been right inside the front door, and it was gone. Spent many hours hiding out and reading there.

puddleglum 8 years, 3 months ago

wow, someone who knows where sambo's was. I am now very impressseed..... lets see who can get this one.... at 23rd & iowa northeast corner.... late 80's there was a grocery store where hastings is now... In the early 90's it was bought out be apple orchard grocery or something like that..... colors were red and yellow. can anyone name the store? I loved that place

think_about_it 8 years, 3 months ago

How about Ken's Pizza?

The old dragstrip is still there along Research Park Dr. behind UMB bank.

kansaskate 8 years, 3 months ago

-Having a grocery store in North Lawrence -The Panini Grill (lasted about a year where the Gaslight is now, but was DELICIOUS) -Looking west from the corner of 6th and Folks with only farms and fields as far as the eye could see -Bluebird Cafe -Jennings Daylight Donuts on Mass -Tin Pan Alley -Varsity Theater -The stone barn at Princeton and Kasold (now Hutton Farms) QUESTION: Does anyone else remember having to pay a quarter to go down the first slide they put in at the pool?

Rich Noever 8 years, 3 months ago

Hey Ralph, it was the Dine-A-Mite. How about the Golden Cue? Our first upscale Pool Hall and it's private club the New Orleans Room at 23rd and Naismith where the new KU Credit Union is.

handlon 8 years, 3 months ago

Lenny Zero's The Campus Madhouse The Beefeater The Chief Lumber yard @ NE corner of 19th & Mass The Bull & The Boar The Harvest Cafe Duck's Seafood Kentucky Fried Chicken (way out at 23rd & Iowa) Shorty's

GardenMomma 8 years, 3 months ago

Things I miss about:

Downtown - Town Crier - Adventure Bookstore - Penny Lane - Fun & Games (when it was NOT in the Antique Mall) - Raney Drug - Granada & Varsity Movie Theaters (Saw Rocky Horror Picture Show at the Varsity one midnight ages ago) - Pizza Hut (before it remodeled) - The Grinder Man (where Rudy's Pizzeria is now) - Natural Way - Woolworth's

Elsewhere: - Putt-Putt - Cinema Twin (before and after it was a dollar theater) - Hillcrest Theater - Fantasy Land Roller Rink - Royal Lanes - Rusty's IGA (and Alvin's) - Drag Strip Road - Mazzio's Pizza (was a delivery driver for them. Ah, the memories of Galaga!) - Gammons

If I think of more, I'll post them. Been cogitating on this all day.

GardenMomma 8 years, 3 months ago

I knew I'd forgotten one thing!

  • Watching fireworks on Campanile Hill

Tom McCune 8 years, 3 months ago


The Ball Park was at Hillcrest. You could drink beer and play "fantasy baseball" with historic team rosters. (The 27 Yankees vs. the 32 Red Sox, for example.) Sorry, don't remember who the owner was or how the games worked in detail....

Scott Drummond 8 years, 3 months ago

Hope I am not the first to mention it, but I miss walking down the line and piling a tray high with chicken fried steak, fried potatoes and onions, a few slices of texas toast, some pie and a drink. All at the dearly departed Furrs Cafeteria.

xdcr 8 years, 3 months ago

Nudist Camp was called " Sycamore Hollow". I lived close by. Used to ride my pony over to the edge of the "Hollow" . My older brothers and friends would sneak over for "sight see'n" adventures.

flinthillsborn 8 years, 3 months ago

What about the Mass Street Deli...yummy warm ham and cheese sandwiches and cheese cake (I thought it was made from scratch...later foundout I was wrong!)

Tom McCune 8 years, 3 months ago

The little "Eichler" (post-and-beam) houses on streets like Madeline Lane near West Junior High. Unfortunately, most of the current owners have butchered them up by adding silly looking gabled and hipped roofs.

Harpo 8 years, 3 months ago

Marion & Newell Post:

Never made it to The Ball Park (I was around, but not old enough to get in anywhere that served alchohol), but as a baseball geek I have read about it. Started up by a KU prof, and one of the regulars was none other than Bill James who wrote about it in one of his legendary Abstracts.

Probably not Kudos-worthy, but that's all I got.

3ofClubs 8 years, 3 months ago

Marion (Marion Lynn) says… The Bierstube.

3ofClubs says: I'm with you. The Bierstube. I drank my first dark beer there.

SusieCreamcheeze 8 years, 3 months ago

I worked at Sambos....arggggggggggggggg and the Singer sewing machine store downtown and Royal College shoe store downtown Mr and Mrs Guys clothing stores downtown The Jay shop downtown

Mixolydian 8 years, 3 months ago

  • The way the bubble machine went off behind him when he conducted with that big old honking baton.

*.His pass rushing ability. RIP LT.

  • Dime draws at the (I can't remember that bar's name. There were two of them.)

  • Getting stoned and getting lost (literally) in the stacks at Watson library.

  • The old Hoch auditorium where I saw REM and sat with 900 other students in a Chemistry class.

  • Ida McBeth regularly playing the Jazzhaus.

Left_handed 8 years, 3 months ago

Shakey's Pizza Lum's (Hot dogs steamed in beer)

Phase 8 years, 3 months ago

Unless I missed them, I failed to see any mention of: The Big Barn (dance the West Coast--Bo Didley didn't show) Trampolines next to Rusty's at 23 & Ohio Dari Queen at 23 & Ohio The Firebird Club ( dinner, drinks, swimming pool) 23 & Iowa Carriage Lamp rear of Malls shoping center Ikes Buffet --- before the Carriage Lamp Harrisons Drug store 19 & Mass Maxine Lindley's Dance Studio Vermont St. downtown Sanders Lincoln-Mercury/ Studebaker 9 & Miss Kuhn Truck & Tractor 18 & Mass The Caverns 7 ST between Mass & New hampshire Oak Lodge south on 59 Hwy.

Maddy Griffin 8 years, 3 months ago

1.) The Phil Zone 2.)Wakarusa Valley Music Festival 3.) Vista 4.)Fantasyland skating 5.)The other Bowling alley 6.) The Red Dog Inn 7.)The OLD jail (before the Judicial center) 8.)Woolworth's 9.) Ben Franklins 10.)Cornucopia 11.) Tin Pan Alley 12.) Mass St. Deli 13.) Garrett's market 14.) Shoney's I could do this all day but I don't want to be a blog hog so I'll stop there.

Judy Browder 8 years, 3 months ago

Bokonon The Big Eat Do. Co. Health Birth Control Clinic - Dr. Clinton, 7th & NH Annual Salad Bowl in Central Park Sister Kettle, 14th and Mass Gay Lib Dances in Union Ballroom WimminSpace House. 7th St. Pooh Corner 1300 Ohio - The Pike 864-3506 Info Center, "Last to know, 1st to tell" Lake Contrary skinny dipping Kellas Art Gallery Openings

Hopalong 8 years, 3 months ago

I have the Tin man and he would be happy to be displayed again at another location!

Phase 8 years, 3 months ago

Multidisciplinary ... I came to River City with the flood of '51. Lived in Sunnyside first year--attended Lawrence schools, KU, and was a member of most of the local orgizations, clubs, etc.

Steve Miller 8 years, 3 months ago

I miss the farmland plant east of town. It provided alot of jobs and family security during it's existence.

Aisling 8 years, 3 months ago

at 23rd & iowa northeast corner…. late 80's there was a grocery store where hastings is now… In the early 90's it was bought out be apple orchard grocery or something like that….. colors were red and yellow. can anyone name the store?

Puddle---it was Food Barn when I worked there in the mid-80's

secrettoalonglife 8 years, 3 months ago

Paul Grace's Standard Station(9th&Vermont) and King George's Shirt Shop.

Phase 8 years, 3 months ago

secrettoalonglife -Paul Grace's Standard used to be Bud Shields Standard, and King George worked out of an old van before he had a shirt shop -- he'd come to your house (or parking lot or wherever) and lay the nicest pin stripes on your leaded trunk lid you've ever seen---all freehand!

GardenMomma 8 years, 3 months ago

Oh and, Holiday Park Pool. They had awesome cold Reese's Peanut Butter Cups - just wonderful!

And when I was young, the abandoned Frat house on the hill off 9th was called Lucifer's

Jersey_Girl 8 years, 3 months ago

W.C. Field's Pizza where you could watch them toss the crusts

ObiWan 8 years, 3 months ago

Alley Cat Records Rax Cinema Twin dollar theatre Carol Lee's Donuts Jester's Fantasyland Putt-Putt Bonanza (awesome trashy buffet) Alvin's IGA Casbah Whitey's Music Shop Harmonic Arts (great porch jams) Panchero's (tremendous tacos) Brass Apple Molly McGee's (before they changed location) The Phil Zone

Jersey_Girl 8 years, 3 months ago

My dad bought me my first legal drink at the Brass Apple!

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

Just thought of another! Does anybody else remember before Bucky's it was Sandy's? And even farther back, you walked up to the front of the building before there was inside dining and placed your order standing outside! Did that age me or what!

secrettoalonglife 8 years, 3 months ago

Gran Sport and the owner, George. Hiking through the bottom of Clinton Lake before it was filled.

puddleglum 8 years, 3 months ago

multi- thanks for the sandy's link...that is awesome!

hedshrinker 8 years, 3 months ago

Maybe not remembering this correctly: we struck it rich late 60's/early 70's with paid employment at Stokely's or a birthday check and went to eat at what I think was the original Don's Steak House, in a concrete block shack out past 31st and Iowa on the west side of the road. Is that possible? Thanks for reminding me of the Union Gay Lib dances....liberating for EVERYONE. and the Red Dog, dancing to Mike Finnegan, and OMG Reubens from Hole in the Wall sandwich shop and what was the dimestore by Round Corner, didnt it have creaky wood floors. I love that people keep adding to this thread.

MR_L 8 years, 3 months ago

JC Penney's when it was downtown. Taco John's when it was downtown at 10th & Mass. Woolworth's store and diner inside. Harry Bear's when it was downtown across from the police station. Ken's Pizza on 27th & Iowa. The arcade/pizza place that used to be downtown. Both movie theaters that used to be across the street from one another downtown. Cinema Twin that used to sit where Kohl's and Old Navy are. Rusty's IGA.......all 3 of them. Wa-Lo the grocery store that sat where you pay your water bill now. Dillon's when it sat at 6th & Michigan. Being able to drive 14th St. from campus straight thru to Haskell Ave. Partys off Wakarusa before they built all the businesses on it. The old Day's Inn with the restaurant when it sat on the corner of 23rd & Iowa. Molly McGee's when it sat in the same strip mall as Kief's.

David Klamet 8 years, 3 months ago

I seem to remember that Anderson Rentals on 6th used to be a Dillons, before it moved to Lawrence Ave? Is that correct?

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

Correct Dave! And before that, a used car lot. Bought a '57 Ford there for $295 in '66

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

And on the east side where the car wash now stands, an APCO gas station. Worked there after school senior year, 17.9 cent/gallon gas wars every month!

BigPrune 8 years, 3 months ago


I miss those cheezy jingles: Vista (for the good times), Vista (for the fun).

I also miss: Sandy's (come if you are) Sandy's (come if you are) -to that rubber tree plant song.

Soup2Nuts 8 years, 3 months ago

Tin Pan Alley and their weird menu....Carp Lips? (onion rings)

memorylane 8 years, 3 months ago

Playing on the big wooden dinosaur at Centenniel Park near Sandy's!

Michigan Street BBQ (between 5th & 6th St.)

myvotecounts 8 years, 3 months ago

MR_L mentioned: "The old Day's Inn with the restaurant when it sat on the corner of 23rd & Iowa."

Even earlier, this was the Holiday Inn--the nicest hotel in town. It's where the visiting football and basketball teams stayed when they came to town to play KU.

acg 8 years, 3 months ago

Town Criers Taco John's on Mass That old burned out frat house on 9th (we called it Lucifers), used to hang out in there and get high. That old rocket ship at Broken Arrow. Used to hang out in there and get high too. Miss the old Lawrence.

xdcr 8 years, 3 months ago

Before the Holiday Inn at 23rd and Iowa was the "Authur Wilson" farm.

Ralph Reed 8 years, 3 months ago

@Multidisciplinary: There was a nude (clothing optional really) bar. It was in that building behind McDonald's on 23rd Street next to Westlake. It's changed names so many times I can't remember what it's called now. The club didn't last too long because the general reaction was, "Don't look Martha, they ain't wearin' no clothes. Martha? Martha??? Martha, you git back here and git your clothes on!"

Lawrence just wasn't ready for that (still isn't).

The Ball Park at Hillcrest.

I apologize if I mentioned it earlier --- The movie theater at Hillcrest - used to be a projectionist there. (No, not exhibitionist, that's on a different thread.)

Ralph Reed 8 years, 3 months ago

@secrettoalonglife: I remember when it was next to Joe's Bakery. Used to deliver pizza when it was there.

BTW, has anyone mentioned a dozen hot donuts from Joe's Bakery. You could get in anywhere if you had some of those. Donut faces also.

secrettoalonglife 8 years, 3 months ago

Thanks Ralph, I remember Jim Owen's Liquor Store next to Joe's. Wasn't there an Arthur Treacher's Fish and Chips at 6th and Alabama? I think it became Galloway's BBQ before it became Taco John's. I also remember Mount Hope Nursery.

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

Okay, by my reckonin' and cypherin' the average age of posters on this blog has to be approximately 59.7 years, (+ or - .5 )

61.35 for Roe

(Who's next?)

Ralph Reed 8 years, 3 months ago

Arthur Treacher's Fish and Chips at 6th and Alabama...

Best fish & chips I've had this side of the pond.

been_there 8 years, 3 months ago

Remember the lady in the blue dress and blue turban? She wore it every day for many years. You never saw her in anything else. And of course the guy with no shirt even in the middle of winter.

been_there 8 years, 3 months ago

In later years, the 80's, for a short time they had a bussiness that would come to your house in a van or suv and make you fresh taco's right in your driveway.

rbwaa 8 years, 3 months ago

An eclectic assortment of eating/drinking establishments and eras in random order [including repeats]: The Sirloin – north Lawrence The original Gaslight The RockChalk The JayHawk The old Kansas Union and Hawk’s Nest FiFi Nabil’s Big Boy’s [hot fudge sundaes!] Squeezer’s Palace The Yellow Sub Baskin Robbins [mandarin orange chocolate and daiquiri ice sherbets together in the same bowl - heaven!] Michigan Street BBQ Moore Burger [best hamburgers and shakes ever!] Hole in the Wall Earl’s Pizza Tredo’s The Rubiyat [Ramada Inn downstairs] The Catacombs [under Red Dog Inn??] Allen’s Drive-In Griff’s [home of the 15 cent hamburger] The Plum Tree Furr’s A-Treachers Fish and Chips Sister Kettle [Roe, I think the average age is about right and I can’t believe I ate/drank at all those places not to mention remembered them!]

Ralph Reed 8 years, 3 months ago

@been_there: The blue lady was a fixture at KU for years. Story was she could take classes for free until she earned a degree. Something about a settlement because her husband died on a construction project at KU.

Johnny was around as long as I remember. The most I ever saw him wear was a light jacket, shorts and sneakers w/o socks. That was in a driving wet snow storm. He wouldn't hurt a fly. I last saw him when he was living in a mobile home park on the west side of North Michigan, but that was about 10 years ago.

origflyboy 8 years, 3 months ago

I used to play on that big old rusty rocket ship at broken arrow park. The skating rink where Kohls is now. KMart which became 1/2 price store then sears Jc penny on 23 where hobby lobby is. Sac's on 23rd Rogers in north lawrence Movie theater downtown Aladdin's castle by pizza shuttle Putt putt where douglas county bank is The dollar movies

Frank Dorsey 8 years, 3 months ago

We do have a movie theatre downtown. Liberty Hall.

RiverCityConservative 8 years, 3 months ago

The Opera House and, down in the basement the Seventh Spirit (with another door opening on a side street)

xdcr 8 years, 3 months ago

Northwest corner of 19th and Mass. __ "Harrison Rexall Drug Store" Southeast corner was a service station opperated by the Fritzel family, yes that Fritzel family.

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

been_there (Anonymous) says… "And of course the guy with no shirt even in the middle of winter."

RalphReed (Ralph Reed) says… "Johnny was around as long as I remember. The most I ever saw him wear was a light jacket, shorts and sneakers w/o socks. That was in a driving wet snow storm. He wouldn't hurt a fly. I last saw him when he was living in a mobile home park on the west side of North Michigan, but that was about 10 years ago."

I believe that is the first time I've heard him called by name, ha was always called "Tan Man" as far back as I remember seeing him. Also didn't know where he had moved to, but had heard of 'sightings' a couple of years ago.

chlover13 8 years, 3 months ago

Don't know where the rest of my post went - but here goes:

Shorty's Cafe - across from the old Greyhound bus station. K. E. was a waitress there.

Pentimento Cafe - if my memory serves was started by some of the former Sister Kettle folks. Down from the post office where Bogart's was for a long time.

That Stationary Store - have no idea of the name. They sold art supplies and beautiful paper. The fixtures were old (1900), made of wood and had glass fronts.

Duck's Seafood - downtown

and I know it has been mentioned but - Taco Grande, Taco Grande, Taco Grande!!!

chlover13 8 years, 3 months ago

Oh - and Cornucopia on Mass across from Dillon's World's best salad bar!

Godot 8 years, 3 months ago

If you want to see the rocket, you have to go to Lake Dabinawa.

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

Don Baxter's Speed Shop Kaw Motors Ray's Salvage

For the parts, new and salvaged that made hot rods out of clunkers for me

Tyson Travis 8 years, 3 months ago

I'm 64 [LHS '63] so a few years older than the average, but here are a few I remember:

Original Putt-Putt I think was on the NE corner of 23rd and Iowa, I think there was a gas station right on the corner (Cities Service?), then the Robo-Wash/66 Gas, then the Putt-Putt. Must have moved south later.

Original KLWN radio station at (I think) 31st and Iowa.

Sorry, I can remember going to FOUR established movie theaters on Mass. for feature films when I was a kid. There was the Jayhawker at 7th, the Patee on the east side in the 800 block [where the walk-thru next to the flea market is], then the Granada and Varsity in the 1000 block. The Patee had a balcony, and was too narrow to show wide-screen movies.

John's Novelty Shop next to the Granada.

Mosser-Wolf cameras in the 1100 block, with the fledgling Centron in the back, when my mom first started working there in about 1948. Pat Read sold native American trinkets and jewelry in a tiny shop next door.

Rankin's Drug, SW cor 11th & Mass--prescriptions and a soda fountain.

The beautiful old white-and-green stone house just south of the Granada, adapted as the offices of Friend Lumber Co, which had the rest of the block. When they tore it down in the 50s it was the oldest downtown building. A supermarket replaced a lot of the lumber yard. [Was it A & P?]

Burgert's Shoe Repair and Rusty's IGA Superette further south from Mosser-Wolf.

Cole's IGA on N. 2nd, just after you came out of the underpass. Collapsed after the '51 flood.

Bell Music Co. in the 900 block, west side, sold sheet music and had a nice LP selection, with listening rooms where you could test-drive the LP you were thinking about buying.

I think the older bookstore on the same side, a bit farther South, was Keeler's, where they also had stationery and stamp collecting supplies.

While we're on stamp collecting, Ida Mason's stamp shop at 303 W. 13th, the bldg used to have big glass front windows, she lived in the back, and would admit you on a doorbell ring so you could come in and browse.

Can think of lots more, but don't want to monopolize. Enjoy all the posts. T. Travis, Ark.

RiverCityConservative 8 years, 3 months ago

Yes, I remember the Pentimento. Sometimes there was live music or poetry, and a very mellow crowd sipping on herbal teas into the late evening. Nice place. I remember their vegetarian chili hit the spot on cold nights...

RandySpent 8 years, 3 months ago

I'm pretty sure he's dead. Skin cancer, and no I'm not joking.

Ralph Reed 8 years, 3 months ago

I don't doubt you Randy. It's a shame, he was good people.

sandrat7 8 years, 3 months ago

McCallister grade school, Bob's Cafe. Waxman candles @ 14th & mass.... Icee's from the store across 14th from Bob's cafe (where Waxman was later)

Romans832 8 years, 3 months ago

(1) There was an ice cream store on 23rd, near where Dunkin' Donuts is, where you could make your own sundae. They had a variety of toppings. Like a salad bar, but for ice cream. :-) I don't remember the name. (2) Did someone mention Western Sizzlin'? One of the first places I ate when I moved to Lawrence. My mother and sister were helping me get settled in, and we went there for supper. (3) The Sinclair station at 9th and Iowa! (4) Hillcrest Garage, operated by the same folks that owned Hillcrest Wrecker. (5) Minskey's (sp?) Pizza, where the Phoggy Dog is now. (6) Cross Reference Christian Bookstore, in the Malls Shopping Center and at Holiday Plaza. (7) Hardee's (one where Sheridan's is, one at 6th and Michigan that McDonald's purchased for office space). (8) The 24-hour laundry near 31st and Iowa. (9) Magic Wok Chinese restaurant. Good buffets on Sundays, plus weekday lunchtime buffets. (10) The post office on 23rd Street. (11) Shoney's--may have already been mentioned. Good breakfast bar. (12) Marian Washington, KU women's basketball coach before the Bonnie Henrickson era.

Would have to agree with earlier posts about Hole in the Wall and the Yello Sub at 12th and Oread. (Yello Sub just came up in the conversation yesterday! Working on campus, when I couldn't find any other food worthy of my money, I could walk there.)

I must have timed out composing this message! I knew I was thinking too long and too hard. ;-)

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

Tan Man Lives! Break out the sun screen!

Boston_Charley 8 years, 3 months ago

The "specialist" teachers who went from school to school-- Mr. Mylan for gym, Mr. Garcia for art, Miss Klingenpeel (and her dangly jangly earrings) for music, the best substitute in the world Mrs. Kadiddlehopper (aka Mrs. Clem), and The Carrot Lady, who came in from Topeka to talk about nutrition--her signature line was an annoying singsong chant, "First whacha don't like and then whacha do like, and every day you'll have a clean plate!"

UnbiasedLionsfan 8 years, 3 months ago

Gobles Grocery at 6th & Indiana, Peter Pan Ice Cream Store at 6th & Maine (where the Credit Union is now), Alfie's Fish & Chips at 6th & Maine (where Taco John's is now), Gammons (dance place in the mall where Jersey Mikes is now), Shenanigans (in former Merc location on 9th street--before Shenanigans--it was Pladium Bowling Alley), the Playhouse (behind McDonalds on 23rd Street), the bar below the old pool hall next to Munchers--I can't remember its name), the bar below the Eldridge Hotel (I can't remember its name either), Calhoun's Mens' Department Stores next to the Dillons on Mass. and the former Dillons' location at 6th & Michigan, Shakey's Pizza which is approximately where Pizza Hut is now on 23rd Street, MR. STEAK (where you could get a free meal on your birthday!), Safeway Grocery Store downtown (I believe) at 9th and New Hampshire Streets where Farmers' Market has been held recently, Dari King on 6th Street, Rusty's IGA where Checkers is now. I could go on and on, but I'll stop.

onerockinmom 8 years, 3 months ago

What about the Phil Zone. I was not a "regular", but it was fun to go in and look around!

secrettoalonglife 8 years, 3 months ago

Yuk Up/Yuk Down in Hillcrest Shopping Center. Metric Motors, it became a chocolate factory- I think a guy named Marcus ran that. Beau's VW, was it on 9th St?

puddleglum 8 years, 3 months ago

original mad hattter? what are you? Compton's stool-boy?

Carol Bowen 8 years, 3 months ago

I shopped at Food Barn every week. Anybody remember the gooey grilled cheese sandwiches at Jennings Daylight Donuts? They were affordable!

Penney's downtown Shonee's liver and onions, carrot cake Furr's

J_Girl said: "The feel of Lawrence before all the chain stores and restaurants got here The feel of Lawrence when it still belonged to the residents and not the students"

Right on J_Girl and puddlegum! Maybe, we should try to get more businesses like these if we want to invigorate Lawrence and retain its "unique" character.

workinghard 8 years, 3 months ago

There was a lumber yard on the north side of 6th street just before Tennessee St. They tore it down and the houses on 5th and Tenn to make the park (not the train park).

workinghard 8 years, 3 months ago

I remember there was a stable on, I believe, 31st before they moved to Baldwin. It was called the Stable of Joy. Imagine the reaction people probably got when they would call information for the phone number. Years later her husband was arrested for sex crimes involving young girls.

puddleglum 8 years, 3 months ago

Marion writes:

I'm talking about like 1970-71; don't know who owned it and don't care.

It was a great place.

Oh.... had no idea it was open in '70.....probably because I didn't notice it until homeboy bought it in I think 1990 I thought he ran that into the ground in 1991.

remember the pawn shop next door?

Harpo 8 years, 3 months ago


As a kid, John's Novelty Shop was an absolute must stop before going to a movie at the Granada. Though the statute of limitations has long since expired, I can neither confirm nor deny that pea shooters were purchased there and used to pepper the Granada movie screen and an occasional innocent patron!

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

'Oh, yeah, used to buy any number of firearms from those guys. They moved to 23rd and sold out. I'da bought it but they wanted waaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy too much!"

Well........................ Typical pawnshop pricing. Could deal with Shorty though if he was in the right mood!

Bought 6000 'once fired brass' in .45 auto and 8000 in .38 special from him all for less than $100 Still have most of it, although most of it is now 'twice' or 'three' times fired.........

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

OH! Fergus Grocery, 13th and New York.................

Wow, that's been a while.............

ilovelucy 8 years, 3 months ago

The Carriage Lamp club The Country Inn, where Slow Ride is today. Great "homestyle" meals.

ilovelucy 8 years, 3 months ago

Sgt. Preston's of the North. Remember when the men could look out at the bar from their bathroom? Trick mirror, or something. The canoe from the ceiling was great. Best nachos EVER.

Ralph Reed 8 years, 3 months ago

The Masonic Temple the way it used to be --- before First Management bought it with the intent of letting it fall apart so they could tear it down and put up some piece of cr*p as a tax dodge.

David Lignell 8 years, 3 months ago

Good, insular blog for native Lawrencians, but I'm curious:

Lawrence has been labeled a bedroom community for KC and Topeka jobs. How many of you are transplants versus native born Lawrencians?

SusieCreamcheeze 8 years, 3 months ago

Oh my!!!! Was anyone ever really born in Lawrence???? I came here in 1961 via Dallas....born in Jersey. I don't remember ever knowing anyone born here...oh no no no.

Oh!!! I bet Multi was...or will claim to be....LOL

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

Birth certificates! I want to see everyones birth certificate! Only native born Lawrencians allowed to post negative comments from this day forward! All non-natives of Larryville caught blogging or posting on LJW will be escorted to the city limi........

(ding, dong)

Yes, Officer?

My stuff? Officer, Why do I need to grab my belongin.........?

Escorted where? But, but officer I was just..........

Now, right now?....................



myvotecounts 8 years, 3 months ago

I remember when Tellers really was a bank with live tellers.

(My parents moved me to Lawrence when I was three. My sibs born after me are natives.)

David Klamet 8 years, 3 months ago

I've found out a TON of things I didn't know. I lived near town as a child and have lived in town most of my adult life.

Wish there were pictures of a lot of this stuff. I've read some of the books on Lawrence history, there are a few. Does Watkins have many?

chlover13 8 years, 3 months ago

I lived in 15 different states as a child (Dad with Bell Labs). Landed in Lawrence in "73" at age 17 "running away" from Baker U. (Yes, I went to college too young - that's another story) Thought I'd landed in heaven.

My kids and now grandchildren are Lawrence born and raised. Since I arrived before I hit "legal" age AND I'm passing the legacy to my descendants I consider my self a townie.

I realize this takes this conversation in a new direction but what the heck...

Bloopie 8 years, 3 months ago

The Carriage Lamp Restaurant behind Hume's music - The Sanctuary - Calhouns Dept. Store - Terrill's Dept Store The Jay Shoppe - The Afro House on 10th and Rhode Island - Corner stores at 19th And Louisiana, 14th and Mass Fergies store in East Lawrence, Moons varikety sotre in north Law - Coleman's store in north Lawrence =- Skillet Skiles auction house in north Law - Harvey's shoes on 23rd and Naismith - The police station at 8th and vermont the jail at 11th and Mass - Rankins drug sotre at 11th and Mass Raney Drugstores 3 locations - McCallister Elem school at 14th and Connecticut - Grants pet store on Connecticut - Lawrence Surplus (jeans) Sam's discount store at 9th and Mass. The first national bank where Teller's is now - Velvet freeze ice cream at 8th and Mass - Mallotts hardware on Mass - McCroryOtasco on Mass - Blane & Jesse's hair salons all over - Johns Novelty shop next to the Granada I am tired I could go on forever. Remember when blacks could not swim i the Olympic pool. Couldn't swin until 1971 Municipal pool

Berry317 8 years, 3 months ago

Danny's Gas Station at Sixth and Frontier. Great potato wedges.

LadyJ 8 years, 3 months ago

My daughter loved going to the livestock sale barn in east Lawrence on Sat. to get a hamburger and watch the horses.

acg 8 years, 3 months ago

Definitely not native born. Was born outside DC, our nation's armpit, uh, capital. I've lived all over the US and I think Lawrence has to be one of the best towns I've ever had the pleasure of residing in. It has a great mix of folks who seem to get along, for the most part, and the crime isn't too bad. The town is clean and pretty well taken care of and I always feel safe here. But then again, I've lived in Detroit, Philly and Wilmington. Talk about crapholes!

chlover13 8 years, 3 months ago

Not only Woolworth's but the Photo booth in their entryway. How I wish I could take my grandchildren for a afternoon of photo funnies!

colette 8 years, 3 months ago

Anyone remember the Green Pepper Pizza? We used to drive from Hays and that would be our first stop.

gonewest 8 years, 1 month ago

I realize this is a month and a half late (I don't visit here very often). But I simply must share my own memories.

My mom and I moved to California in '81. I was pretty young and only got to the Purple Pig a couple times.

Richard Write, however... Wow, I was amazed and pleased to her his name here! But I am saddened to hear of his passing.

I must have been about 6 years old. My parents had given me my very first house key the day before! I was so anxious to try it out! Home alone, I grabbed the key, ran around locking all the doors, and stepped outside. I put my gleaming new brass key in the lock and...it didn't work! Nobody had bothered to test this brand new key. I was locked out!

Lo, and behold! Up pulls this telephone repair truck into our driveway. It's my mom's friend (and really everyone's friend) Richard Wright! After trying each door with me, he grabs a short length of (likely 14gauge) wire from his truck, and in about 10 seconds has the chain off our back door and had me in safe and sound!

What kind of cosmic forces lead to Richard showing up just at that moment? Saving me from several hours of waiting on the porch for my parents to get home? Who knows?

One thing is for sure, knowing guys like Richard were involved in Abate of KS, left me never for a second regretting the hours and hours (and hours), sitting on the floor next to one or another dining room table filled with bikers, all of us filling and sealing and stamping Abate envelopes.

Can anyone here give any information on Richard's death? When, how, etc.?

Oh no! George's Hobby Shop is gone??

Reading all the things that are gone is so sad! And why is there a fence around the locomotive?? What the heck happened to Lawrence?

gonewest 8 years, 1 month ago


The story I heard, was my neighbor, "Mr. Abby", had once been a locomotive engineer, and was somehow involved in putting the locomotive in the park. So I take the fence especially personally.

Is there still ice skating right next to the locomotive in the winter?

5thgeneration 8 years ago

Gonewest, I haven't seen ice skating next to the train in at least the last 3 years. Fenced up train is a drag too.

I miss: The New Yorker pizza and arcade (in the 10th and Mass area.)

Fun and Games, and Ziegfield's (East side of 10th and Mass.)

LeMan's Arcade (where the now defunct Yamaha dealership is.)

The picture of Liver And Onions hanging in the window of the Woolworth's Diner.

Lucifer's, the haunted incomplete frat house structure at 9th and Emery.

Curly Q's and chocolate shakes from Strick's (Christmas trees too.)

The Granada and the Varsity.

Fantasy Land roller rink.

"Sandy" the horse at Rusty's IGA on 23rd. (where Checker's is now.)

The Sunset Drive In.

School supplies in a brown cardboard box from Raney's Drug Store on Mass. (where the Blue Heron died.)

Ryan Gray (when he was still going to basketball games, and not just the the name on the playground.)

Litwin's on the West side of Mass........... remember the jeans on tall shelves and the ladders on rollers?

Larry Brown and the '88 Jayhawks.

Country Folks restaurant with the HUGE cinnamon rolls (where Panda Garden on 6th is now.)

Pine's Fireworks (Teepee Junction.)

Malott's toy department (in their hardware store.)

TG&Y, Gibson's, Ben Franklin's, Woolworth's, Otasco, and K-Mart.

Bromelsick parties at Hoch Auditorium.

That's all for now.

gypsyrags 8 years ago

I miss Lawrence!

Joe's greasy donuts on study nights

My first rock concert at The Red Dog,,,,,Ike and Tina Turner Revue,,,,,,,best concert I have EVER seen!

Only 1 grocery store,,,,only 1 gas station,,,,,only one place to buy a car,,,,,,no buses,,,,,1 taxi.,,,1 hotel.,,,1 motel.

Had my first and only beer at The Wheel,,,,hated it!

Opened my boutique,,,,,Gypsy Rags,,,,,,was friends with the people at Strawberry Fields.,,miss my store,,and them.

Never locked my doors,,,,,rode my bike to the park every day with my dogs.,,,my first pets.,,no-one was ever there.

Bicycle Annie was the most famous person in town.

My first job at a nightclub,,,,name??? owned by Joe,,,,famous bands were there every weekend.

Eating baked potatoes and corn at Mr. Steak every week,,,almost the only place to eat,,,,,no traffic.

My first "love-in" on the University lawn,,,,,people came from all over the U.S.

Just looked at the town on youtube,,,,not the same,,,it was a 2 block business area then.,,,,what happened?,,,,,have never been back,,,,,,will always miss my life there,,,,safe,,,,quiet,,,,and sweet.,,,gone forever!!!

gypsyrags 8 years ago

I almost forgot!!!,,,twice a week all my dairy products were delivered to my back porch,,,and I was NEVER hasseled or pushed for the money,,,,even if I was late paying,,,,do they still do that? What a beautiful life I had,,,,gotta move back!!!!

kcmidewstgal 7 years, 8 months ago

I worked at the Town Crier bookstore downtown. It was the neatest place to work! All the magazines, cigars, tobacco, books, gifts. You couldn't find a place like that nowdays. Where people would gather in the back of the store with thier cigars and hand-rolled cigarettes, telling thier unique stories. We had our regular customers that came in daily, weekly, and monthly. We had such a diverse group of employees too, and we were all good friends. mostly students. I was there when The Town Crier closed. I was depressed for months. I missed everything about it! Especially all the people!!

riverdrifter 7 years, 8 months ago

Time warp: Puts away rake and grass seeder and goes back through the crappy February, then the crappy January, the Christmas blizzard. November. Let's go pheasant hunt -again. Not!! ***Wakes up to a 55 degree night in March. Warm, with a drizzle & crocus in the yard. Tournament time.

Man, kcmidewestgal, don't ever do this again.

Now, where were we?

Oh, yeah...

RoeDapple 7 years, 7 months ago

Okay multi, need some help here. The building on NW corner of 23rd & Naismith, currently KU credit, previously Payless Shoes, Russell Stover . . . Originally built as a beer and billiards/pool bar. TC and I spent too many days of our second semester senior year sneaking in for a few. Anybody remember what it was called then?

esteshawk 7 years, 7 months ago

Exile records

Johns Novalty shop

The New Yorker

Raney Drug with the soda fountain at 19th and Mass

Nanny Duver

KUWon 7 years, 6 months ago

Alice Cooper at AFH....1972

Steve Martin at Hoch....???

I worked at The old Holiday Inn, 23rd and Iowa. At Sizzler, Sambo's, Mr. Steak, The New Yorker and Old Carpenter Hall Smokehouse. (Before it burned)

The big red headed manager at Sambo's would get into fist fights with the drunken graveyard customers, on most nights.

I have seen rats, the size of small dogs, in the Seventh Spirit (basement of the Lawrence Opera House). The downstairs bar had a dirt floor and the rats were indifferent to our presence as we played the new-fangled "Pong" cocktail table games.

Anybody remember the little 3.2 beer bars across from the old Holiday Inn? There were two little shacks and were named Time Out #1 and Time-Out#2?

KUWon 7 years, 6 months ago

I stood on the roof of the old Holiday Inn and watched (with the other desk clerks) as a tornado just missed KLWN and then smacked the facade of the K-Mart, at 31st and Iowa. The twister then made a bee-line for the mobile home park, of course. It was perfectly back lit by the afternoon sun. Just like the Wizard of Oz, but in HD!

RoeDapple 7 years, 6 months ago

That tornado was up in the clouds but very loud as it passed over my house in NW Douglas county. About 15 minutes later a relative who lived in the trailer court called to say they were alright.

philsy 7 years, 2 months ago

I haven't seen anybody mention the Gaslight (beer joint near the Union) or Dirty Herbies (may be just as well).

LJWPaperBoy86 7 years, 1 month ago

This had me thinking back to those days when the paper boys from all over town would turn in their subscriptions to the LJW and then my Dad would take me and my sister to Penny Annie's to buy treats.

Arthur McElhenie 7 years, 1 month ago

I don't recall anyone mentioning Duck's Restaurant. My wife thinks it was on Vermont between 8th and 9th; I think it was on Mass, 8-9th.

Also, the (party) Barn located generally where 6 th and Monterrey is now, where Ernie Haley's business was later.

dogtired 7 years ago

Going to AFH as a kid with my dad while he worked with a Telephone Company item called the tele-type. We were in a make-shift wood booth under the bleachers where dad worked and once in a while the usher would come get me and let me watch the game for a few minutes. That place made the hair stand up on my arms an neck. What I would give to do it again. Shooting the square with my older bro after church listening to "American Top 40". Trading in pop bottles for cash at Rusty's IGA 23rd street. Walking past the Pontiac dealer accross from Krogers on 23rd heading to Kings restaurant where I think Long Johns is now on the south side. Long John Silvers Sunday afternoon on the North side of 23rd where I think Taco Bell is now. Leaving my first real job at Gibsons (lol) and going to Taco Tico when it was just south of 23rd & Iowa on the east side, near the dumpy little gas station with the white privacy style fence separating it and the apartments I think. HB Quirks and Twisters were short lived. Yamaha was in a steel quansit hut (sp?) style building next to a gas station on the north west side of 23rd & Louisiana. Just behind it to the north was a little dirt trail to test ride the bikes. Lots of great memories here.

Mike Hatch 7 years ago

I loved Gibson's! They had cheap ice cream cones, and it was real ice cream, not soft serve. We most always got one every time we went there. That might have been the first store in Lawrence I was ever in. When we were here looking at houses, my parents bought me a new Ken doll outfit there to make me feel better about moving. Then we had dinner at the Sirloin Stockade.

I remember going to The Bead Bandit, I think it was in Hillcrest. You'd pick out the beads you wanted and they'd make your bracelet or whatever you wanted right there. My sister got a really pretty bracelet there in the later 70s.

dogtired 6 years, 5 months ago

How about Uncle Milty's across from Haskel University. I learned to play Pinball in there with my brother. And the Lawrence Sale Barn next to Hobbs park on 11th. A friend of mine back in High School (1979) purchased 10 little baby pigs to raise and bread. He was trying to herd the baby pigs together to get them out of the sales arena when somebody let a bunch of cattle in at the same time. People were running all around trying to grab all his baby pigs before they got stepped on or kicked and it was the funniest sight...That should have been on funniest video! Didn't loose any pigs or have any injuries.

Scott Kaiser 6 years, 3 months ago

Campus Hideaway Pizza (I still have an old menu from them--106 N. Park. VI3-9111. Lg. "Around the World" Pizza=$2.75 the most expensive pizza on the menu!)

Shakespear Pizza Duckwalls Keeler's Bookstore Woolworth Ben Franklins Dairy King A & W Pladium Bowling alley Moore Burger Voo Doo Hut The swimming pool behind A & W on 6th St.... Olympia? White Light head shop A & P grocery store Willy's Mexican Restaurant Griff's burgers Sandy's Quantrill's flea market King's food host Sister Kettle's cafe @ 14th & Mass (What was it before then?) Little Women clothing store (My Grandmother worked there) Full service gas stations Jennings Donuts (I played DCABA baseball with them as our team's sponsor) John's Novelty

And many, many more!

RoeDapple 6 years, 3 months ago

Hey DaddyTopCat thanks for reviving this! It was fun going back through some of the old posts! (And filling in the blanks for the posts from memory of those who are no longer showing)

FredJF 6 years, 1 month ago

The Gaslight Tavern on campus

The Pizza Hideaway, was that the name?? Great pizza at midnight

GetItRight 5 years, 8 months ago

Richardson's Music on 9th. Then on Connecticut. Then in the alley under Fields. Now on 8th. There will only be one Stomper......

otto 5 years, 8 months ago

Someone may have mentioned this but -- remember the bum called the Hat Lady -- when I was a little kid everyone was scared of her.

RoeDapple 5 years, 8 months ago

Good to see the oldies resurrected every now and then . . .

Too many posters mentioned that we no longer see.

gonewest 5 years, 5 months ago

I'm so sorry I didn't follow up here. Things came up, I lost the bookmark, I got distracted. But I get so nostalgic reading all of these! Thank you all!

dogtired, thanks for mentioning Taco Tico! I can still taste their food!! And of course Donchalido's (later Border Bandito, circa early '70s). To this day, Donchalido's cheese enchiladas are the measure of the quality by which I judge all other enchiladas. Few compare.

There was a (new) restaurant called Cornucopia (closed 26 years ago?). My mother loved it. My father went along. I never saw the appeal. hehe! Still, memories of childhood. :)

I remember endless commercials for Vestone TV. I think they were a Television sales and repair place. Can anyone shed light on whether Vestone was a Lawrence local thing, or more regional?

I recall a Top-40 radio station, but not the call letters. For all I know it's still around. Can someone bend their brain and try to recall what Top-40 stations were around in the 70s? I'm thinking, Bee Gees, Wings, Michael Martin Murphy, Andy Gibb. I'm not trying to go 70's nostalgia, per se. Just wondering if someone cal throw some Lawrence call letters at me that would trigger some memories of 'home'. I remember the favorite took requests, but then who didn't back then?

gt722 5 years, 4 months ago

Just talking witha friend about hot summer days in Lawrence during the 70's. We would go to the Hillcrest Theater and jump from movie to movie to avoid the heat as long as possible. Then, run over to the bowling alley for pinball. Then, Rusty's for a long walk up and down the frozen food section (in barefeet, of course).

Love reading and remembering our childhood through the above posts.

Also miss:

Vista Drive-In on 6th .... Fresh limeade and fries Tredo's Restaurant .... stuffed meatball sandwich

The old frat on 9th was also a place that housed an alternative grade school and where KU students could rent rooms in a commune kind of way ... early - mid 70's? There was a soaking pool on the roof. FUN!

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