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Haskell Indian Nation University students suffer again. Students at Haskell Indian Nations University are sweating it out in dorm rooms with no air conditioning in rooms throughout the largest and newest dorm on the Haskell grounds: Roe Cloud. Various rooms from first floor to the third are without air. Posing not only health concerns but safety concerns as well: Many students are keeping their dorm room doors open to try and get some cool air in to their rooms. Hello security ! Seems like the Haskell President, Chris Redman should go spend the night in a dorm room in 100 degree weather which is what the temperature here in Lawrence is predicted to be today and Thursday and see how he likes it. Haskell’s President knew when the students were returning, correct? So why did they return to rooms with no air conditioning? Maybe he should be looking a little more into who should be correcting the two fold problem, for example maintenance and security? Whoever it is needs to fix it and fast. We hate it that once again Haskell students suffer. haskellnews commentary 08/29/2012

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geekin_topekan 1 year, 7 months ago

Which were based on American Eugenics.

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blindrabbit 1 year, 7 months ago

Not implying any similarity, but the last time I remember any talk about "blood" purity and "blood quantum" was when Herr's Goebbels, Himmler and Hitler were trying to sell their Aryan theories.

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bobandmywife 1 year, 7 months ago

@ benofthebull Your comment about " What Haskell University needs are competent workers" my wife and agree with that entire comment. You are completely right.

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geekin_topekan 1 year, 7 months ago

I love the way white racists tell Indians to let it go! Let what go? It's still here, the gross underfunding of the health services and educational facilities is the evidence. How do you let go of what is assaulting you today?

I love the way white racists disclaim their ancestors when its inconvenient to acknowledge the genocide and human trafficking which made everything possible, but are quick to grasp the Constitution and others, documents that they also had absolutely nothing to do with. You cant pick and choose your past guys. you are accountable for the treaties of your ancestors, not just the ones that benefit whites. What part of illegal don't you understand?

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benofthebull 1 year, 7 months ago

What Haskell University needs are competent workers. The large majority of workers at Haskell, including those in housing, business, maintenance, admissions, are all simply there because they think they have a secure position. These workers are not there for the students' well-being, just there to collect a paycheck. Talking to students seems to uncover a real condescending attitude taken by these workers towards students. Who does the performance appraisals for these positions, including the performance appraisals for Redman himself? They all fail in my opinion. Sadly any real worker who would put students above all else knows that Haskell is full of incompetence by most workers and would not even apply to work there. If Haskell is to change any of its negatives they need more competent workers and most importantly better leadership. This means you Redman.

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benofthebull 1 year, 7 months ago

First of all Pork and Bob sounds like you both have no culture at all, do either of you know anything about your ancestors? Those over a hundred and fifty years ago? Pork your comments sound simply ignorant of historical affairs, sounds like all of the reading done on your part has been misleading or simply required at the high school level by educators that clearly know nothing of real history. erk85 laid out everything that contradicts both of your obviously ignorant comments, of which Pork just seems to be writing rubbish. And Bob, once again you bring up the issue of your hard earned tax dollars, but once again (as you failed to answer me months ago) if you wish to get back those hard earned tax dollars what shall be done with the millions of tax dollars tribes all over the country give to state governments from tribal gaming? By the way Bob Kansas also receives a great deal of tribal gaming money as well. So are you prepared to see millions of dollars go back to tribal governments when your hard earned tax dollars are returned to you? Bob you seem to think you have many things researched so why don't you find out how these tribal gaming taxes are spent in Kansas and then see if you're prepared to see all that money disappear. Maybe try researching using another news source for that research Bob other than your usual go to. Spoiler Bob, there are other news sources out there besides LJ World, CNN and Fox News. Anyone ever heard of sovereignty or do the lot of you just use the George W. Bush definition of sovereignty? How about trust responsibility? For those that think treaties are outdated wouldn't it stand also to say that the US Constitution is also out dated, both were founded on the same principles.

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bobandmywife 1 year, 7 months ago

If taxpayers dollars were used correctly at Haskell then we would not have to be concerned with it. Where is your proof that only 1 to 2 cents of taxpayer dollars go to Haskell? Where do you think the federal government gets it money from ??? With that being said my wife and I have always been concerned about the students at Haskell and we take offense that you feel because Haskell students live in hard conditions on the reservations that they deserve no better when they arrive at Haskell. It's an awful statement. We believe it shows an overall sentiment of a lot of the Haskell staff take facilities for example. Letting those students suffer like that. Shame on them ! And shame on Chris Redman !

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bobandmywife 1 year, 7 months ago

Is the air fixed? Has anyone talked to facilities about how to help students in an emergency like no air ! Has anyone spoke the facilities secretary about being nice to everyone or else losing her job? What about Chris Redman is he going to start doing more for the students? Or is he better off else where?

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Pork_Ribs 1 year, 7 months ago

"Blood Quantum"??? Who controls that factor? To me...that is freakishly barbaric. The modern day racist is one who expects something simply because of their race. Who can actually look in the mirror knowing that they are benefiting from something an ancestor went through. Shameful and lazy.
We are all born into different situations and walks of life. "The cards we are dealt". Some much tougher than others. Some play those cards wisely...others do not.
All races simply need to focus on work and not on what they can get for free. The culture was taken from their ancestors...not them. No one alive today has had their culture taken from them. It is created to simply make weak white folks feel guilty for what their barbaric ancestors did. At what point will people decide to be come American's instead of hyphenated ones? 100yrs...200yrs...300yrs? Or will the modern day racists continue to drive the wedge for unearned benefits?

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bobandmywife 1 year, 7 months ago

@ frankie8 My wife and I have lived in Lawrence for 40 + plus years and have learned a lot about Haskell along the way: You are right in saying that "HINU is a government supported university and you have to prove that you are a Native American or have the proper blood quantum to go there "

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useta 1 year, 7 months ago

My son lives in Roe Cloud and I asked if he had air and he said yes.

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Mike Ford 1 year, 7 months ago

nice to hear a bunch of uninformed noise that passes for intellect....right both ways...

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1 year, 7 months ago

Also, I heard recently that the staff put window air conditioners into the rooms in Roe Cloud. Any truth to this?

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Leslie Swearingen 1 year, 7 months ago

theironmouse 8 hours, 50 minutes ago

Wow.. your an idiot Frankie. Its a private college

bobandmywife, I believed him. So, am I right in saying that HINU is a government supported university and you have to prove that you are a native American or have the proper blood quantum to go there?

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bobandmywife 1 year, 7 months ago

@ frankie8 Haskell is a government school run on taxpayers dollars not a private university.

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bobandmywife 1 year, 7 months ago

@ KansasConscience Lobbying for funds is suppose too the the job of Haskell's Board of Regents. Looks like even they have let down the students. The students should be there too get an education and not be involved in the politics of the place. There is no solution for Haskell as it stands now. However the community college idea is a good one. That should also get rid of all current administration which seems too be a good idea also.

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Leslie Swearingen 1 year, 7 months ago

This is from the HINU online application: Degree of Blood or Tribal Roll Number: Tribal Agency Name of Tribe, Pueblo, Corporation, or Rancheria PROOF OF TRIBAL ENROLLMENT. Students applying to attend Haskell must either be an enrolled member of a Federally recognized tribe eligible for education benefits from the Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) or at least one fourth degree Indian blood descendent of an enrolled member of a tribe eligible for BIA education benefits. Official documentation regarding tribal recognition signed by the appropriate BIA agency or tribe must accompany the admissions application. If you are one fourth degree Indian blood descendent of an enrolled member of a tribe, you must provide documentation such as a birth certificate identifying your relationship to the enrolled member including forwarding that family member’s tribal enrollment certification along with verification of the student’s blood quantum. ................................................................................................................. You are right about it being a private university.

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1 year, 7 months ago

Have any of the students gotten their tribes to lobby the various Congressmen and Senators in Washington to provide more money. They are the ones who control the purse strings.

The Haskell administration cannot lobby for more money as they're government employees and it's illegal for them to do that in that capacity. They can, on their own, write and ask for increased funding, but the words of only a few have little meaning in DC.

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bobandmywife 1 year, 7 months ago

This shows how much the people in Washington care about their students, much like the current president. This budget is grossly unfair too the students and that is why making Haskell a community college that all could attend is the perfect solution for both the needs of the Haskell students and anyone in Lawrence who wishes too attend a community college. Taxpayers would be much happier knowing they support a full-fledged community college right here in Lawrence.

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1 year, 7 months ago

The lack of funding is a real problem. According to the LJW, the current Haskell FY2012 budget allocation is a little over $11.5 million. This is less that many departments at other universities.

Some years ago a friend of mine did some calculations and showed how, even though Haskell had received an increase in funding from 1980, their real buying power had not increased. It had in fact decrease. Take a look at this document from the LJW. You can download the pdf. http://www2.ljworld.com/documents/2012/jul/03/haskell-budget/ The 2012 budget of $11,511,201 coverts to only $2,647,343.63 in 1975. If I remember correctly, the latter number is actually less than Haskell's budget in 1975. (http://www.dollartimes.com/calculators/inflation.htm/) In essence, since 1975 Haskell has received a decrease in funding.

So yes, funding is a real problem.

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bobandmywife 1 year, 7 months ago

@ jaydokie If Haskell "facilities programs mostly utilize contracts with private sector businesses to take care of our facility issues because it is supposed to be more cost effective management." Why does Haskell even have a facilities program ? What is it Haskell facilities do just cut the grass? I know a couple of kids who would be happy too do that. This is one more example of wasted taxpayers dollars. @ jaydokie "I grew up in the Oklahoma heat without air conditioning. It's uncomfortable, but consider that you are receiving an education at a fraction of the mainstream university system cost, and it allows reservation youth an opportunity to assimilate more easily into the mainstream university as they pursue their dreams." Are you saying that Haskell students from the reservations don't deserve too have a/c while they are attending Haskell because without it it helps them too assimilate too Haskell, that's so wrong and sounds like discrimination.With thought processes like this and President Redman who is doing nothing too build programs or even keep the grounds up and the student air on and allows a certain Haskell facilities secretary too be rude too whomever she pleases, this place is a waste of taxpayers money. Now that someone bought it up turning Haskell into a real community college too be used by both Haskell students and the Lawrence community sounds like a winner too me.Since Haskell really is a community college that should not be too hard to accomplish.Someone should start looking into that. It would help bring more money too Haskell and that is what they are always complaining about, lack of funding.

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jaydokie 1 year, 7 months ago

Thanks blind rabbit. I attended school there and did a stint working in administration for Doctor Martin a while. Loved it and wanted to stay but couldn't convince my family to relocate. I was sitting in an apartment complex after graduating from high school and worked and drank everyday at age 18. Coach Homeratha offered me a chance to go to school and continue playing football. And it changed the course the course of my life. So, I do get sensitive when folks put down the school and what it stands for and was meant to be. My Grandfather and Grandmother met there and eventually ran off to Ottawa, KS and got married. My past is tied to that place and always will be.

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hellalucid 1 year, 7 months ago

As a former Haskell student I have to say that lack of A/C in the dorm rooms are the least of this college's ailments-- anyone that read through that grammatical disaster of a post could attest to that.

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blindrabbit 1 year, 7 months ago

jaydokie: Would never suggest the DOI/BIE back away from their committment to Native American Students. I have observed the changes in Haskell since the late 1940's when it was a vocational school to it's present situation. In fact my grandfather hired many Haskell vocational students (and I worked beside them) back in the 40-60's. My hope is that the students are getting what they deserve and what the Federal Government supposedly wants for them. I am concerned that the proper oversight, especially during the last 10-15 years has been missing.

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jaydokie 1 year, 7 months ago

First of all, Haskell is under the DOI-Bureau of Indian Education (BIE) rather than BIA. The BIE Director reports to the Asst. Secretary - Indian Affairs, as doe the BIA Director. Secondly, I went to Haskell 79-81, and although I complained about the heat in the dorms to friends, I survived because I grew up in the Oklahoma heat without air conditioning. It's uncomfortable, but consider that you are receiving an education at a fraction of the mainstream university system cost, and it allows reservation youth an opportunity to assimilate more easily into the mainstream university as they pursue their dreams. It is a role that the government agreed to (educating our youth) in treaties when they were taking Indian homelands away from tribes so that they could open it up to homesteading and building communities for non-Indians. If Haskell was funded with federal funds in comparison to what mainstream universities receive, it would be a state of the art university with little complaining by young Indian students who may be away from home for the first time and homesick. Indian students go on to teach your children in public schools, provide medical services to you and your children, and countless other contributions to society mostly because they had a higher learning achievement which may have started at Haskell.Being a retired federal BIA employee, I understand that our facilities programs mostly utilize contracts with private sector businesses to take care of our facility issues because it is supposed to be more cost effective management. Haskell has contributed to Indian students for generations and are active in your community because they feel a sense of being a part whether accepted or not. We share our campus venues with your school systems and community at a minimal cost to Lawrence because our funding or source of funds doesn't permit otherwise. As for thinking that it should be turned into a community college for Lawrence, when will you ever tire of trying to take what belongs to us for your pleasure? You have more ability to go out, buy land, and build a new community college so quit salivating and leave Haskell alone.

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blindrabbit 1 year, 7 months ago

A slide from the last effective president at Haskell, Dr. Robert (Bob) Martin to continuing bad performer: Karen Swisher, Linda Warner now to Chris Redman. Problem is at top of BIA (with bad advice and poor help from Senator Pat Roberts) in appointing these types and sacrificing the education of Native American students. How the University was saddled with Warner for all of her time and yet did not come up with a more effective administrator than Redman.

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bobandmywife 1 year, 7 months ago

They just need to close the place, rude employees, a new president who does not care about the students, not enough BA's. Sad, sad state of affairs for Haskell. It's days have come and gone.

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drillsgt 1 year, 7 months ago

who in charge of the buildings..i see green buggies all day driving around..you call to the number to find some info at the facilities dept, and you get a rude seceretary..she has air,,we dont..she needs to learn how to treat the people who she works for...instead of being rude..chris redman dont care or a real boos would of had some one in the sling right now...what are saying bout haskell..what kind of message are you sending now..the boss at facilities must be a favorite of the president cause he is not doing anyhting about it...screw the students..or maybe he isnt qualified to be the boss at facilities because they dont know what to do..but they went home tonite to cool air...more to follow

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msmimi 1 year, 7 months ago

@ bob and my wife and haskellnews and all of you other haters. Why do you want Haskell closed? Maybe you should be putting this "hatred" energy to good use !1 I have been a long-standing KU student who would have liked to attend Haskell but have no proof of Indian Blood Certification, however, admire the heritage and cultural aspects of Haskell. Shame on you for not supporting your own tribal college! It is a major concern for those students to be without air conditioning and you do not know the circumstances behind the situation. Why not find out before you rant and rave about closing Haskell, man, you guys are such idiots !!

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bobandmywife 1 year, 7 months ago

@blindrabbit It's a great idea but how does it happen? You are right Haskell students would be better off and Lawrence could benefit from having a community college. Taxpayers would be happy knowing that Lawrence would have it's own community college. This is a great idea win win for all.

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blindrabbit 1 year, 7 months ago

The BIA's form of "keeping them on the reservation" a paternalistic patronizing approach to education. The Native American students would be much better served if Irtnog2001's recommendations were adopted. Haskell perpetrates a form of segregation where the students are kept from mainstreaming with society and handed off with training that in all likliehood is sup-par. What are they left with after departing Haskell???

As for the Haskell property itself, establish is community college (needed in Lawrence) by BIA/DOI leasing the property to a well run educational operation. Don't have all the answers, but would be better off for all involved than what is going on now.

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irtnog2001 1 year, 7 months ago

Sounds like Haskell has outlived its usefulness. Close it down and just offer scholarships that native americans can use at any college or university of their chooslng.

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bobandmywife 1 year, 7 months ago

Another question, Have the students been without air since they arrived at Haskell this semester ?? If so someone needs to be fired over this. Time for some accountability over there.

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bobandmywife 1 year, 7 months ago

We wonder if this is any type of health code violation ? This needs to be reported to someone who can help the students. Does anyone know who we might report this to?

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blindrabbit 1 year, 7 months ago

Nothing suprising about this story; if you have ever had dealings with Haskell; why do today, what you might think about doing at some time in the future.

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bobandmywife 1 year, 7 months ago

They need to close the place down until they get the a/c fixed or better yet just close it down. I bet none of the Haskell staff is going without air. Don't American Indians have a high percentage of diabetes ? What about those students? Or students with asthma ? You are saying that students on a third floor building have no air in this heat ? Has Chris Redman ever heard of heat stoke ???? Haskell should be ashamed of itself treating their students this way. It's not the safest place to be.... what happens when a female student leaves her door open to get some air and ends up getting raped by someone who walks into her room? We are usually worried about our tax dollars being spent there, but today we are just worried about those poor students with no air !!!! We had such high hopes for Mr. Chris Redman no more. Looks like he needs too move on.

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Leslie Swearingen 1 year, 7 months ago

Sounds to me like shoddy work from whoever put the air conditioning system. There is no way that the students can study under those conditions.

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