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What The Bible Says About Birth Control: Nothing. Abortion? God's For It.


The Bible says nothing about birth control. It says nothing, nada, zip, zero about birth control. So perhaps all the folks slinging bovine excrement about how a woman being in charge of her own fertility is evil ought to just go sit in the corner and read their Bibles. The Bible, however, has many admonishments in favor of abortion. From the website Evilbible.com:
"Abortion: Hosea 9:11-16 Hosea prays for God’s intervention. “Ephraim shall bring forth his children to the murderer. Give them, 0 Lord: what wilt thou give? Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. . .Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit: yea though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.”

Clearly Hosea desires that the people of Ephraim can no longer have children. God of course obeys by making all their unborn children miscarry. Is not terminating a pregnancy unnaturally “abortion”?

Numbers 5:11-21 The description of a bizarre, brutal and abusive ritual to be performed on a wife SUSPECTED of adultery. This is considered to be an induced abortion to rid a woman of another man’s child.

Numbers 31:17 (Moses) “Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every women that hath known man by lying with him.” In other words: women that might be pregnant, which clearly is abortion for the fetus.

Hosea 13:16 God promises to dash to pieces the infants of Samaria and the “their women with child shall be ripped up”. Once again this god kills the unborn, including their pregnant mothers.

2 Kings 15:16 God allows the pregnant women of Tappuah (aka Tiphsah) to be “ripped open”.


jhawkinsf 6 years, 3 months ago

deec, a blog of this type says as much about you as the the vitriolic responses that are sure to follow. Is that your "thing"?

ivalueamerica 6 years, 3 months ago

Perhaps the THING is that there is a movement afoot right now to usurp the Constitution and replace it with a Judeo Christian Taliban type Christian Supremacy movement that only picks and chooses what parts of the Bibles it follows and ignores anything that contradicts what they want to believe and try to use their narrow and incomplete interpretation through legislation to force others to abide by their rules.

A blog suggests that these false Christian Supremacist follow neither the Bible nor the Constitution and are self serving

jhawkinsf 6 years, 3 months ago

There are a good many Christians, Jews, Muslims, etc. of good faith who read their holy literature in calm and in reverence. And there are some "Taliban" types as you describe. But telling people to "sit in a corner and read their Bible" rather that "sling bovine excrement" is an invitation to a non-civil discussion.

Deec's blog reads like the rantings of an immature teen rather than that a well thought out opinion piece. Here we are some 40 hours after posting, 29 comments, and not a word from deec. He's accomplished his goal. He set the ball in motion and is now watching the hatred spew. Good for him. Now go to junior high school before you're late for class.

Liberty275 6 years, 3 months ago

LOL. I'm gonna quote some scriptures.

Gen 38:9 And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled [it] on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother.

Gen 38:10 And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also.


RogueThrill 6 years, 3 months ago

You'll note that god is not mad about the spilled seed, he is mad that Onan didn't impregnate his brother's wife.

Liberty275 6 years, 3 months ago

I can see where it may be taken that way, but it wasn't god that told him to do the dirty business. Is there a particular reason god wanted Onan to get busy with his brother's wife?

KSWingman 6 years, 3 months ago

Yibbum, or levirate marriage, was part of the Torah. The story of Onan predates the Torah, but is one of the roots of the law.

Normally, it was forbidden for a man to marry his brother's widow. (Leviticus 18:16) However, if a man died without an heir, his brother was obligated to take the man's widow as his wife. The first son born of that union was considered the continuation of the dead brother's bloodline. (Deuteronomy 25:5) A man could decline to fulfill his duty under the law, which was known as halizah.

Onan was a younger brother of Er. After Er's death, their father Judah ordered Onan to take Tamar to wife. Onan did not want to lose the birthright he had gained by the death of Er, so he prevented impregnation by "spilling his seed". He was struck dead for disobedience to Judah, or for failing to follow the tribal law.

Another interpretation of the story is that Onan enjoyed the benefit (sex with Tamar), without the responsibility (making the heir the the line of Judah), and for that he was struck dead.

Some Rabbis interpreted the tale of Onan as an admonition against masturbation. The Catholic Church has interpreted it as a condemnation of contraception.

Katara 6 years, 3 months ago

After your explanation of Onan's story, it seems to me more of a story condemning greed (not wanting to lose the birthright) rather than any condemnation of a sex act or contraception.

KSWingman 6 years, 3 months ago

Like many myths*, it can have more than one equally valid meaning.

Onan was greedy and selfish. He was also disobedient; directly disobedient to his father Judah, and indirectly disobedient to Yahveh. By taking the pleasure of sex without the intent to procreate, he violated Yahveh's command to "be fruitful and multiply" and committed contraception. Personally, I don't see the validity of the ant-masturbation argument, since Onan was described as performing contraception by coitus interruptus and not masturbation.

*"Myth" is used without commentary on the fact or fiction of the original story, since that cannot be determined.

Paul R Getto 6 years, 3 months ago

I heard of a guy once who named his messy Canary "Onan" because he was always casting his seed upon the ground and the guy had to clean it up off the floor.

Liberty275 6 years, 3 months ago

Regarding your verses,

1 (mythical) god can give or take life at his whim. That's his job. When men do it, they are breaking two commandants first by performing a task meant only for god and therefore recognizing the god which is oneself before the god in heaven, and second, the one about not killing.

2 Man has free will and may do as he wishes, but also must suffer the penalty. God doesn't like prior restraint.

RogueThrill 6 years, 3 months ago

And it is also pretty clear that it's gods job to met out the punishment. Man should have free will to do as he pleases with respect to gods wishes, it shouldn't be a matter of earthly laws restricting it.

peacecrusader888 6 years, 3 months ago


The true God is not for abortion. Who gave us our life? Do not tell me that it is our father and mother. That is wrong because they are merely soil.

And what do you think is the difference between a living person, and a dead person in a coffin?

RogueThrill 6 years, 3 months ago

And who gave us the free will to choose abortion? You can hate abortion and even feel that those who chose it will go to hell, but god did not give you the permission to make it impermissible.

yourworstnightmare 6 years, 3 months ago

Using bible quotes to justify behavior is just silly.

Waddetreestudio 6 years, 3 months ago

                    ( BIBLE RETARDATION...READ IT AGAIN AND GET AN JEWISH PREIST TO INTERPREPT THIS LAW..)  How can an Greek understand HEBREW Prophet..

Get Hosea's interpretion ( he is dead) we only have the( shadow of this command) as Greek we do not have the authority to make this law active and if this law is acted its murder under Greek law Today...

 We -  Do not Kill the unborn when its in late-term its murder)

Waddetreestudio 6 years, 3 months ago


Waddetreestudio 6 years, 3 months ago

This Kind of Bible Mentality will encourage our Judicial system to take away our bibles if

this kind of biblical abortion apologitics encourages abortion..

(This is bible retardation)

somedude20 6 years, 3 months ago

If someone, anyone can prove that this "god" is real then I will listen (maybe) to what it says but right now, all you have is a buch of made up fairy tales.

Hey, you know Voltron was pro-choice and pro-birth control. The Hulk is pro-choice but mad at the lack of protection for a creature his size Transformers, well, they don't need bc or condoms but support our freedom to use them Strawberry Shortcake likes having her freedom of choice Wolverine supports women and is pro-choice Spock is down with the choice

The one fake critter (other than god, right) that is anti is the Grinch. Newt Grinch's cousin the Grinch don't like

somedude20 6 years, 3 months ago

I have a bridge for sale if you are interested

jonas_opines 6 years, 3 months ago

I'm sure that this is the thread that will settle this issue once and for all.

notaubermime 6 years, 3 months ago

What would anyone have to talk about if not for continually re-hashed arguments with no hope of resolution?

Armstrong 6 years, 3 months ago

And just when you thought the lowest of the low has been blogged something else shows up to trump that. Springer has to love this stuff it makes him look like a scholar

esteshawk 6 years, 3 months ago

All this blog does is point out the absurdity of relying on a 2500 year old myth to address modern issues.

Armstrong 6 years, 3 months ago

@ Vertigo. Question your own stance to learn ? Is that like sticking your finger in the air to see which way the wind blows ? The party of I believe in nothing. ( and know about as much)

Pastor_Bedtime 6 years, 3 months ago

Yeah it's a good thing to study the fiction your big Churchie brother wants to force upon you and shove down your throats. Know thy enemy. And if the Dems are the Party of Atheists what's that make us heretic Republicans?

Pastor_Bedtime 6 years, 3 months ago

Maybe the Party of Forced Christianity. Yeah, that'll help defeat Obama. Claim the party is only for the uber-religious and spot Socialists under every rock. McCarthy all the way!

Armstrong 6 years, 3 months ago

What else is abortion designed to do ?

Liberty275 6 years, 3 months ago

Sometimes freedom is bought with murder.

Armstrong 6 years, 3 months ago

The most impressive thing about that post is the stupidity

booyalab 6 years, 3 months ago

No woman is in charge of her own fertility. That's like claiming to be in charge of gravity just because you avoid steep cliffs.

booyalab 6 years, 3 months ago

For the record, I am not against birth control but this blog post is pure nonsense.

denak 6 years, 3 months ago

lol, love it. I love how Deec so conviently takes Biblical passages and then tries to twist them to mean that God is pro-abortion. Sorry, EPIC fail. The Bible is very clear about the sanctity of human life and the rights of the unborn. There are numerous references to God knowing and creating the child in utero. God very clearly says to Jeramiah: Before I formed you in the womb I knew you. Before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations." In Isaiah, The Lord hath called me from the womb: from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. Isaiah 49:1 Did not he who made me in the womb make them? Did not the same one form us within our mothers? Job 31:15 For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Psalm 139:13-14 In Psalms, God speak directly to killing the innocents( the innocents being both born children and unborn), They mingled with the nations and adopted their customs. They worshipped their idols which became a snare to them. They sacrificed their sons and their daughter to demons. They shed innocent blood, the blood of their sons and daughters whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan and the land was desecrated by their blood. In Lamentations, Even the jackals offer their breasts to nurse their young, but my people have become heartless like ostriches in the desert. Lamentations 4:3 In Psalms, the Psalmist says concerning God: Your eyes saw my unformed body In Job, there are several verses where it shows that God creates the unborn child. A creation that he creates with love. One that He does not destroy or wants destroyed.

You can't use the Bible to justify abortion no matter how you want to twist the words. First, and foremost, the word abortion or any root word that translates to abortion is never mentioned in the Bible. Secondly, the Old Testement puts the unborn child on the same par as the born child. In Mosaic law, they were equal and if a man caused a woman to miscarry due to his misdeeds, he was charged with murder.

If you want to try to claim that God is pro-abortion or that the Bible is a pro-abortion text, which it clearly isn't, then at least do a little bit more research than a website that is clearly biased. Before you post something like this again, it might actually be a good thing to actually study the history of the Bible, how it was created, the cultures it came from, how they thought and Biblical law.

esteshawk 6 years, 3 months ago

You can use the bible to justify anything. For how many centuries was it used to justify slavery? Again, all this blog is doing is pointing out the absurdity of the bible, albeit in a mean spirited way (not unlike many bible-thumpers).

Tom McCune 6 years, 3 months ago

  1. When people who are fighting injure a pregnant woman so that there is a miscarriage, and yet no further harm follows, the one responsible shall be fined what the woman's husband demands, paying as much as the judges determine. 23. If any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, 24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe. (Exodus 21, NRSV)

This one is easy to find, since it occurs right after the 10 Commandments. Payment of monetary compensation was the biblical remedy for property damage. "An eye for an eye" was the punishment for a crime against a person. The fetus is property. The woman is a person. Destruction of another's property is not the taking of a human life.

Jason Bowers-Chaika 6 years, 3 months ago

In Jewish law, if one man caused the wife of another man to miscarriage, he was charged with a property crime not murder. He paid a fine and when on his way. The Bible does not consider abortion murder.

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