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Recently on this forum, there have been a few letters from older folks fussing about certain euphemisms for happy bedtime fun time.While I do understand that standards for appropriate public discourse have evolved over the years, I think that every generation has felt that subsequent generations use too many bad words. Typically folks who like to think of themselves as conservatives, or followers of one specific deity, are the people most likely to be feel themselves offended. These are the same sorts of folks who don't like porn, and perhaps are cheering Santorum's latest salvo in his one-man war on human sexuality. This in spite of the fact that conservative states consume porn at higher rates than other states.
"Eight of the top 10 pornography consuming states gave their electoral votes to John McCain in last year's presidential election – Florida and Hawaii were the exceptions. While six out of the lowest 10 favoured Barack Obama."
Yet some of these same delicate sensibilities have no compunction in using a common slang term for several gentleman engaging in a round of mutual pleasure as a descriptive term for persons with a different political or religious perspective. What's worse, these same easily offended chaps then feel it necessary to cry foul when their use of vulgar language is removed from this virtual public forum. They are immediately irate, crying bias against "their kind."
Many of these high-strung U.S. conservative, traditionalist chaps consider themselves Christian. This is unfortunate, since their reputed Lord was quite specific about his dislike of hypocrisy: "So, for the sake of your tradition, you have made void the word of God. You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, when he said: 'This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me; in vain do they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the precepts of men."
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16680-porn-in-the-usa-conservatives-are-biggest-consumers.html http://www.keyway.ca/htm2001/20010620.htm
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Ron Holzwarth 1 year, 1 month ago
Hypocrisy is apparently thought of as an American value by many. This reminds me so much of something I read years ago, about the law in some town in Texas over a hundred years ago.
No prostitute was allowed out of a certain part of town, and the area was strictly defined, except on a Tuesday, when they were allowed to go to the main street and buy what they needed. That was the law, so that no moral woman would find herself near one.
But, there was no mention of men at all. It was just fine for any man to go into that certain part of town anytime, and there was no age restriction.
Ron Holzwarth 1 year, 1 month ago
It's strange that although something should be obvious, sometimes you don't realize it for a very long time. At least that's the case with me. Although I read about the very strange law described above many years ago, and it might be decades, I didn't understand the what the real reason for it was until just a few minutes ago.
I thought it was because of prudishness or a very sexist set of morality values. No, it had nothing to do with that, except perhaps at a marginal level.
First off, a woman that was not a prostitute would never go into that certain part of town, or downtown on a Tuesday. Never, ever would she want to be considered a prostitute, and also the constant requests for business would be very embarrassing.
Of course, any man had the perfect right to request a price, inquire about what services were available, or to make extremely sexual advances any time he wanted to to any woman he met in that certain part of town, or downtown on a Tuesday.
So obviously, no woman could ever complain to the sheriff about anything that a man did to her in that certain part of town, or downtown on a Tuesday. She would hear the sheriff's derisive laughter, and he'd ask her, "What did you expect?"
And of course, the sheriff would be sure to pass along her name, and an very exact description of what she had complained about, for the amusement of every man in every saloon in town.
She would never live it down, and she could expect to hear "Hey! You're the lady that," and hear laughter for many years. It would ruin her social life, and her marital prospects.
Or, she might have a husband then or in the future, and he would certainly hear that she had been in that certain part of town, or downtown on a Tuesday.
So the women that were not prostitutes never went there, no way.
What that meant was that the men could take their wives, or their future wives, downtown any time except Tuesday without any fear of meeting a prostitute he had visited, and have her make a personal remark to him, or say something to the woman he was with.
So any man could go into that part of town, or downtown on a Tuesday, and he could be sure that his wife, or future wife, would never hear about it. Unless another man told her, and I think that rarely happened.
I'm quite sure that was the real reason for that law.
deec 1 year, 1 month ago
That may be, but it is silly. Everyone in every tiny town knows what/who everybody else is doing. When I drove cab, most of the strippers told the same anecdote about seeing some guy they'd entertained Saturday night out with the family Sunday morning. They all remarked on the scared look on dude's face when he recognized her. None of the dancers were stupid enough to acknowledge their clients in public, though. Well, maybe the cheap ones. :)
Ron Holzwarth 1 year, 1 month ago
At least they had a facade of hiding it!
Ron Holzwarth 1 year, 1 month ago
One of the most down to earth and nicest women I have ever met was a stripper that lived next door. I have a couple stories about her that I'll have to tell you sometime!
And, one of the weirdest women I ever met was also a stripper. She wasn't nearly as interesting.
Ron Holzwarth 1 year, 1 month ago
And, that place in Atlanta,,, Wow! But it's closed now.
Cappy 1 year, 1 month ago
As to the blog topic, don't forget Dick (heh heh) Cheney's admonission to a Senator on the Senate floor to "commence auto-fornication".
As to the comment by Ron, it's all about controlling women, as it often is.
Ron Holzwarth 1 year, 1 month ago
Many men certainly have a bad habit of trying to control women, that's for sure.
rockchalker52 1 year, 1 month ago
I recently read about pimps who insist on bar code tattoos for their 'associates.' You read it with your smart phone, I guess.
kernal 1 year, 1 month ago
That just smacks of slavery.
classclown 1 year, 1 month ago
Here is the bottom line.
You start off by saying it's the old folks that are doing the complaining.
Lawrence is trying to be a retirement community.
That means lots of old folks around here. Old folks that won't like seeing that sort of language in a family publication. Old folks that will in essence, boycott said publication due to its tolerance of vulgarity being used not only in its articles, but in the comments sections as well. Old folks that may view such tolerance to vulgarity by this publication to be indicative of the town. Old folks that may decide they don't want anything to do with such a vulgar and classless town and decide to retire elsewhere taking all those coveted retirement dollars with them.
So which do you prefer. This paper cleaning up its act and putting and end to such offending behavior, or allowing it to be known as a tasteless and classless rag?
pace 1 year, 1 month ago
I go for a newspaper that allows the word freaking. Darn right. I want the right kind of old folks to come to town, don't really like living with self righteous prune lipped hypocrites. Give me old people like me.
Paul R. Getto 1 year, 1 month ago
I prefer Roy Williams' "friggin." "Fizzling" is good. Zounds! What have we gotten into?
Moderate 1 year, 1 month ago
Hypocrisy is an interesting term. So is generalization. Did it ever occur to you that there are some people that actually believe what they write or say?
Certainly some town members sought services of which they were publicly critical. Hypocrite is fine for those who did. But generalizing your observation to all or most is not.
I find your approach all too common on here where stupid human failures are generalized to demonize one group or another with the unspoken but clear motivation of trying to undermine their values or beliefs.
Nice try but I call you out!!! Your approach is an element in our current inability to compromise. Is that in fact your intent?
pace 1 year, 1 month ago
On a very serious note, the word 'gosh" should also be banned, as well as gosh darn, or any euphemism for different words. Where is the respect for Synonyms when the country is at crisis. Any book which harbors euphemisms should be burned, the ashes thrown into the waters.
. A euphemism is a generally harmless word, name, or phrase that substitutes an offensive or suggestive one.[1] Some euphemisms intend to amuse, while others intend to give positive appearances to negative events or even mislead entirely. Euphemisms also often take the place of profanity.
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