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The War on Women-Part Deux

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This is taking on metaphorical aspects of "Kill Bill(s)" (pun intended).
A national wave is sweeping the country in response to multiple bills being introduced in state houses across the country. The fiasco of an all male panel, over including contraception in preventative health insurance, didn't exactly help.
Women are rising up and they are NOT happy!
April 28th a concerted and coordinated march on Washington and every state capital in the country is being planned. In just one week, from the inception of the idea for this march, tens of thousands of women and their male supporters have pledged to march.
Here is a link to the Facebook page of the National committee of the march:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/300397393356744/
From there, you will be instructed on how to join your state page.
I hope to be in DC on the 28th. If not, I will be in the state capital. Please join me.

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Gandalf 2 years, 1 month ago

Let's all make the world a better place and save on healhcare at the same time. Juat have Evilsam push a law against PMS and cramps. All us men know thery're fake (just like female orgasms). Also pass a law requiring all natual births be accomplished in 8 months or less. That way we can getem back in the fields sooner. :OP

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Armstrong 2 years, 1 month ago

Just call it like it is Cait. You are mad because when Kat left for DC the abortion mills here got slowed down to a fraction of the pace they were at. Trying to pimp taxpayer funded abortion on demand is only going to be accepted by a very small segment of the population.

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Cait McKnelly 2 years, 1 month ago

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/02/26/sunday-review/where-ultrasound-is-required.html?ref=sunday-review

States Where Ultrasound Is Required Understand that in the first trimester (when over 95% of abortions occur) external ultrasound is useless as the fetus isn't big enough for the transducer to pick it up. Therefore, those states that require it are mandating a useless procedure, at a cost of roughly 700$ per exam, where nothing can be seen. Add in that many of these states also mandate a "cooling off" period of as much as 24-72 hours after this useless procedure before the abortion can be performed. Some states (such as Texas) demand that the same physician who performs the abortion must also perform the ultrasound. This is another "hoop" style hardship, as in the vast bulk of OB-GYN practices ultrasounds are performed by techs similar to X-ray techs. As very few first trimester abortions are now being done that are not "chemical" abortions with the use of RU-486, this means that women must now do things like two days off from work, arrange transport and childcare, etc. just to take a pill. To date, these TRAP laws have done absolutely nothing to deter women from getting first trimester abortions. With every law that's passed, it's just simply seen by women as one more hoop that the state is putting them through to get to their goal. And with every hoop that's added women are getting angrier and angrier. Is it any wonder that this anger and frustration is boiling over?

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verity 2 years, 1 month ago

After one of our neighbors had an unfortunate confrontation with a mama pig---those mothers will not only kill you if sufficiently aroused, but then eat you---my father pointed out to me Rudyard Kipling's poem, "The Female of the Species."

While I don't agree with everything in the poem, Kipling does make some good points. I think that the men in government who have either made derogatory comments and/or tried to pass laws putting limits on women's choices or made stupid jokes don't realize that you really shouldn't poke sticks at pissed off females. We are the majority and, although some women seem happy to not have some choices or rights and will vote against them, many men also support women's rights.

Going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

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George Lippencott 2 years, 1 month ago

I am overwhelmed. The responses are measured and considered.

OK

None of the references I read talked to an actual reduction in services as they have existed in the past decade as I understand them.

There was a lot of concern that certain state legislatures will try to limit abortions and other covered and not covered reproductive services. Your are right, they do so at their own peril. However, abortion rights are not settled law. There are still a significant number of people who are not comfortable with where we are. I am. Now I do object to treating reproductive services for most women any differently then we do any other prescription or actual medical service.

There was concern that certain Republican candidates are making noises along the same lines. They are in no position to do anything and IMHO are playing to a portion of their base until they get nominated. Of course, no one but Republicans do that.

There were other references like Cait’s with respect to treatment. The doctor is entitled to her opinion but the services must be provided in a timely manner. There is only so much we can do to make a smooth world. There will be times that the service provider just is not there. We have provisions to back things up and they usually work as they apparently did in the example.

No I don’t want other people making medical decisions for me. Like you I greatly fear that will happen soon when the “best practices” groups at CMS and VA start to defined some services as of limited utility or with a low rate of return. You see women are not the only ones with a dog in the fight although my wife may be affected by the same decisions as I.

Good luck in your protesting.

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Katara 2 years, 1 month ago

Moderate (anonymous) says… To me it seems that all sorts of grievances are being referenced but it seems that the main argument is about cost – who pays. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ You are incorrect about the "main argument". It is not all about cost but about the right of a women to decide for herself which health care choices to make.

Women's health care choices are being restricted. When you try to ban services that are part of women's health care (reproductive services are most definitely in that category), it is about restricting the choices a woman can make.

Do you feel it is okay for someone other than your doctor to tell you what decisions you may make about your personal health?

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George Lippencott 2 years, 1 month ago

OK

I went to the Facebook page and read the references. I have tried to understand the genesis of all this fuss.

To me it seems that all sorts of grievances are being referenced but it seems that the main argument is about cost – who pays. That said the argument seems to be framed in the absolute that someone is taking something away from women.

Now I can remember when the wife and I paid for all our elective reproductive services – only medically necessary services like births were in general covered. That evolved to health insurance covering many of those services but not birth control or related elective choices. Those services were, however, available to low income women under a variety of programs. Now there seems to be an argument that all such services should be free that is paid for by others.

So where do we start. The free part has not been taken away because it never was a generally available service until the recently issued proclamation from the Obama Administration

I conclude that this is all about a carefully orchestrated undertaking to argue incorrectly that somebody is losing something they never had and blaming the loss on the Republicans.

Bottom line: It is just politics as usual and of no real note. When most women begin to understand that most of them are losing nothing it will subside.

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BornAgainAmerican 2 years, 1 month ago

Why haven't I heard from the women in my life concerning this "War on Women"? My Mother is a fairly strong willed woman. Haven't heard from her about this war. My wife is well educated, beautiful and articulate. Nothing from her either. Sis seems pretty happy with her life. My daughter has not mentioned it. What makes a woman want to participate in this "War"? Could it be that the men in their lives treat them well? Could it be that they have never had to consider abortion as an option? Don't know about birth control. It's not a conversation that I have ahd with any of the women around me with the exception of my wife. She has never used it. What makes these warrior women so unhappy?

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its_just_math 2 years, 1 month ago

"Radical feminism aims to challenge and overthrow patriarchy by opposing standard gender roles and oppression of women and calls for a radical reordering of society."

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autie 2 years, 1 month ago

I had a camera in Idaho once. Didn't care for it much. But at least we didn't get shot at.

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Cait McKnelly 2 years, 1 month ago

I dunno. I guess when you have to have a "wand" stuck up your hoo-ha in a totally unneeded and unnecessary medical procedure demanded by legislators who aren't even trained medical professionals (much less doctors) before you can have another procedure done you'll figure it out.

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George Lippencott 2 years, 1 month ago

I have been following the issue of women’s reproductive rights. I must admit that I have apparently missed something. I do not watch CNN, MSNBC or FOX frequently so it is probably my fault. Just exactly what are we arguing about?

I do not know who is actually attacking Title X and what the attack is about. I don’t know who the character that made the joke is or exactly his/her significances. I am unaware of a Republican panel on women’s reproductive rights. I am perplexed at the notion of a “war on women”?

I am aware that Mr. Obama, bless his soul, faced one of those quintessential moments when he had to balance a women’s right to control her own medical needs and the moral obligations of an organized religion to stand behind their belief structure. Somebody had to lose and it looks to me as if the President compromised – a long standing American trait that has avoided a lot of grief in the past.

I am also confused about exactly what rights we are debating. Are we concerned about a women’s right to access to these services or are we concerned that some women might have to pay for them?

From the argument presented it seems like much ado about very little. No one that I am aware of is denying women the right to such services. There are issues over who should pay but I fail to see how that is denying anybody access as such services are readily available to low income women if they but seek them out.

Is this just another argument by the Democrats to discredit the Republicans or is their substance behind it?

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Cait McKnelly 2 years, 1 month ago

Add Mississippi to the list: http://leadercall.com/top-news/x1875164758/Miss-lawmakers-consider-new-abortion-restrictions After having had the "personhood" amendment to their constitution defeated by popular vote last fall, MS legislators prepare to ram it through anyway.

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Cait McKnelly 2 years, 1 month ago

http://www.salon.com/2011/05/26/abortion_saved_my_life/ A woman who had a premature separation of the placenta at 20 weeks, was hemmorhaging out and nearly died because the doctor on call didn't do abortions. Ever. Her life was saved when a nurse called another doctor who wasn't on call and, luckily, found her at home. She ended up having to have three units of blood to replace what she lost.

Keep telling me I'm paranoid, math.

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Cait McKnelly 2 years, 1 month ago

Every Republican on Senate Judiciary Committee Voted against Renewing the Violence Against Women Act http://www.pensitoreview.com/2012/02/18/republicans-vote-against-renewing-violence-against-women-act/ Keep telling me I'm paranoid, math.

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Cait McKnelly 2 years, 1 month ago

I did not write this but it sums up what many many women are feeling.

Letter #142

Dear Mr. President,

Yesterday I wrote to you about the wars raging in this country… and as a result of that letter I was sent a link to join a group called ‘Unite Against the War on Women’.

This group is only three days old and already has a National page and over 10,000 people have signed up to participate in a March and Rally on April 28, 2012 in every Capitol across the country. Not since the Woman’s Movement of the 1960’s have women been this motivated… or this enraged. We are sick and tired of being treated like chattel by right wing Republicans.

An article written today for Politicus.usa, By Rmuse, ‘Republicans Have Awoken A Sleeping Giant And She Is Furious’… speaks volumes about what women in this country are feeling and experiencing day after day. The assault on women seems to have no bounds, and no end at the hands of extreme right wing.

Enough is enough! Women are uniting against this assault like never before. We have watched Republican legislatures and Republican Governors, state by state, pass legislation restricting a woman’s right to choose their reproductive health options, to systematically dismantle Planned Parenthood, assail all manner of contraception protection, and even accuse the Girl Scouts of America of promoting homosexual lifestyles.

Republicans have stepped in it this time, and badly miscalculated the strength and tenacity of women to defend themselves against this onslaught of discrimination regarding our health care and reproductive choices.

There are over 157 million women v 152 million men, and we are going to mobilize, march, protest… and VOTE in November. And… it’s not just women that are fed up with this calculated effort to suppress women’s rights… our husbands, brothers, fathers and boyfriends are fed up too. When mama’s not happy… nobody’s happy, and this mama ain’t happy.

Yes Mr. President, there is a war brewing in cities and suburbs all across America, and if you’re very smart… and I know you are… you’ll keep your nose to the grindstone of governing this country, and steer clear of the War on Women that the Republican right wing and the Evangelical right wing are waging, because they are going to lose this war. I know you’re with us Mr. President because you have too much respect for the First Lady, your beautiful daughters, and all women everywhere.

Women are mad as hell and we’re not going to take it anymore! We will be heard on April 28th in every Capitol in America… so buckle up, it’s going to be a bumpy ride.

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Armstrong 2 years, 1 month ago

This sounds like a really bad episode of Maud (basically every episode). Like it's ' 73 all over again.

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Cait McKnelly 2 years, 1 month ago

http://www.alternet.org/story/154240/santorum's_policies_would_have_killed_my_daughter?akid=8289.283578.is258O&rd=1&t=18

Keep telling me I'm paranoid, math.

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Cait McKnelly 2 years, 1 month ago

If you think I, or other women, are being "paranoid" about the assault on women's healthcare, please consider this: KANSAS HB 2598 http://kslegislature.org/li/b2011_12/measures/documents/hb2598_00_0000.pdf

ALABAMA "Personhood" legislation http://jezebel.com/5788756/alabama-personhood-law-could-ban-all-abortions http://blog.al.com/breaking/2011/04/four_abortion-related_bills_mo.html

TEXAS http://www.texastribune.org/texas-health-resources/abortion-texas/suehs-signs-rule-banning-abortion-affiliates/ Law passed banning all funding for women's health care to any entity that even has an ancillary relationship to any abortion provider. This has cut off access to basic health care services (none of which have anything to do with abortion) to over 130,000 women

NORTH CAROLINA http://www.amplifyyourvoice.org/u/AFY_Nikki/2011/5/23/Cruelty-Beyond-Measure-The-North-Carolina-AntiAbortion-Bills-21-Tactics-for-Terrorizing-Women

VIRGINIA Despite the fact that their legislature backed off on requiring transvaginal ultrasounds prior to an abortion, legislation requiring exterior ultrasounds (which are useless in the first trimester) continues forward.

PENNSYLVANIA Has picked up where VA left off and has legislation moving forward to require transvaginal ultrasounds prior to a first trimester abortion.

OKLAHOMA "Personhood" bill clears state senate. http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/16/us-anti-abortion-senate-idUSTRE81F29920120216

I can go on and on with the links; the flap in Congress over contraception, being told that the only contraception women need is an "aspirin between the knees", even MORE legislation in Illinois, Florida, Indiana and Missouri. Seriously, what does it take to convince people that there really IS a war on women going on out there? NOW tell me that I and other women are "being paranoid".

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ridikkulus 2 years, 1 month ago

Sort of "funny-but-not-funny", but if the whole "aspirin-between-the-knees" form of contraception ends up being all we have access to, with whom will the men be using their government-sponsored, Viagra-induced erections? Each other?

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its_just_math 2 years, 1 month ago

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Cait McKnelly 2 years, 1 month ago

http://www.politicususa.com/en/woman-sleeping-giant "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill (him) with a terrible resolve." -Admiral Yamamoto after the attack on Pearl Harbor.

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BornAgainAmerican 2 years, 1 month ago

Cat48's "War on Women" again. Female version of OWS?

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verity 2 years, 1 month ago

Will they try to outlaw the old "aspirin between the knees" form of birth control also? I hear it works even without the aspirin, so all women can afford it---no need for insurance to pay for it. But the silly old men will be.

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verity 2 years, 1 month ago

I wonder if there's going to be a big drop in births nine months from now.

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