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Why America is on the Brink of Class Warfare

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(And why we should be if we aren't.)

72% (nearly three quarters) of all American wealth is controlled by the richest 10%. (This is the highest it has ever been since statistics started being kept. This actually includes the "Robber Baron" years of the "ultra rich" before Congress started regulating business.)
The bottom ninety percent control only 28% of the wealth.
The average annual income of the top 1% in the country is $1,137,684.
The average annual income of the top 10% is $164,647.
The average annual income of the bottom 90% is $31,294.
Your chance of being a millionaire - 1 in 22.
Your chance of being a millionaire if you are in Congress - 1 in 2.
The ten richest members of Congress control over 2 billion dollars between them.
In the last two years Wall Street profits gained over 700%. The unemployment rate went up over 100%. American's home equity went down over 35%.
The average CEO salary is 185 times that of the average worker.
Due to tax cuts, the tax rate of the average millionaire is now the lowest it's been since 1930.

Sources include: University of California, Berkley; Harvard Business School; Duke University; US Census; Center for Responsive Politics; Bard College; New York State Comptroller; Federal Reserve, Bureau of Labor Statistics; The Tax Foundation; The Economic Policy Institute and (amazingly) The Senate Joint Committee on Taxation.

I copied the bulk of this from an article in Mother Jones Magazine.
http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/02/income-inequality-in-america-chart-graph
Other research was done independently on the internet and can be verified from the listed sources.

Comments

Fossick 4 years, 3 months ago

Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of class war; That this foul deed shall smell above the earth With carrion men, groaning for burial.

pace 4 years, 3 months ago

Refute the numbers or make a lot of noise.

LloydDobbler 4 years, 3 months ago

The irony is that the rich want even more. The Koch brothers, in addition to owning Brownback, are a major influence on the fiasco in Wisconsin and apparently own their governor as well. The Koch boys and their ilk need to read about the French revolution.

Cait McKnelly 4 years, 3 months ago

The French Revolution had a huge impact on the American Revolution. There were many mistakes made during the French Revolution (including the fact that the leaders of the French Republic at one point succumbed to their own greed for wealth and power) and I believe our own Founding Fathers learned from those mistakes. Much of it had to do with the influence of the Enlightenment philosophers. The study of those philosophers (including Thomas Jefferson) is now banned in Texas.

Fossick 4 years, 3 months ago

The study of Thomas Jefferson is banned in Texas? Now that is irony, since those who look down their nose at Suthrins tend to be those who don't take the rights of secession or state nullification - both Jeffersonian ideals - very seriously. Jefferson is far more popular in Texas than he is in Lawrence, Kansas, I'll bet.

gudpoynt 4 years, 3 months ago

um, didn't the French Revolution happen after the American Revolution?

gl0ck0wn3r 4 years, 3 months ago

Don't let the facts get in the way of a stupid argument.

Chris Scafe 4 years, 3 months ago

Banned? Seriously? If I go to Texas I can't study Thomas Jefferson's philosophy? What governing body banned it? What are the consequences?

LoveThsLife 4 years, 3 months ago

Cait...the French Revolution happened after the American Revolution.

Hudson Luce 4 years, 3 months ago

The American Revolution began on April 19, 1775 and ended in 1783 with the signing of a peace treaty in Paris, France on September 3, 1783, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Paris_(1783). The United States were then organized and governed under the Articles of Confederation. In 1787, a move was made to amend the Articles, and then they were replaced by the Constitution and Bill of Rights, which came into effect on May 21, 1788, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Constitution.

The French Revolution began on May 5, 1789, with the convocation of the Estates-General, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estates-General_of_1789.

The American Revolution had a great impact on the French, and provided impetus for their Revolution of 1789 - not as you've stated.

Cait McKnelly 4 years, 3 months ago

Yes. I know. This is the third time I've admitted I made a mistake. I suggest you look at other posts further down. Unless you want as much blood as Robespierre, I suggest we drop this now.

SinoHawk 4 years, 3 months ago

There is no 'irony' involved. People that add value try to continue to accumulate wealth while those who don't add value don't become wealthy. Low value-added jobs can easily be done more cheaply in other countries, so many jobs will continue to be outsourced.

The statistics for the "bottom 90%" are somewhat misleading, as they do not take into account transfer payments from the US government (which make up more than 2/3 of government spending). Additionally, the number looks solely at the breakdown at any one given point in time. For instance: I started easily in the "90%" while first in the workforce in 2008. By the end of 2010, I was well past the 30k threshold. I plan on continuing to progress until I am in the 1% that makes over $1M per year.

The US is a country great for "equality of opportunity"--that is to say, people of any background can grow up to become independently wealthy.

LloydDobbler 4 years, 3 months ago

Good luck with that oh great one who entered the work force in 2008. I think you are in for a few surprises.

SinoHawk 4 years, 3 months ago

I work in China and speak Mandarin. It was a large investment of time/resources, but I am confident.

LloydDobbler 4 years, 3 months ago

That is great and I truly hope you achieve all of your life goals. But I am wondering how valid your comments are to this particular blog since you are not working in the states? The differences in our economies are substantial and not really comparable.

Scott Drummond 4 years, 3 months ago

Please be sure not to come calling on the US taxpayer in 20 years when you are dying of whatever environmental toxins you're being exposed to in China.

jafs 4 years, 3 months ago

I'll be very interested to hear if you make it to your goal.

Many people seem to believe in the idea that they can become wealthy, but very few actually achieve that goal.

kristopherfisk 4 years, 3 months ago

The American Revolution was from 1775 to 1783. The French Revolution was from 1789 to 1799. How exactly, short of a time machine, did the French Revluton have huge impact on the American Revolution?

Cait McKnelly 4 years, 3 months ago

Blah! This is my bad :( The truth is they were too close together and they were both influenced by the same philosophers. (Hey, when I'm wrong I admit it. Not like some of the jerks around here. Kind of hard to argue with hard dates though.) Truth still stands that both revolutions were influenced by the same philosophers.

pizzapete 4 years, 3 months ago

It was the American that influenced the French, how'd you mess that up, regardless of dates?

Fossick 4 years, 3 months ago

This assumes, of course, that a large income differential between rich and poor is itself sufficient to cause "class warfare." It's not. When the vast majority of Americans know more about Justin Beiber than they do about the relative historical positions of the French and American Revolutions, they are not unhappy enough to engage in any warfare at all.

Doesn't keep some from pining for it though.

grammaddy 4 years, 3 months ago

And this is where "crap" media comes in. As long as the media can keep everyone from the REAL issues and keep them happy with "fluff" stories, no one is the wiser and no one rebels. Diversion is key.

Scott Drummond 4 years, 3 months ago

And since the elimination of the fairness doctrine frees tv stations to program whatever they want, instead of anything even mildly in the public interest, we have virtually no choice. Right wing hate radio twaddle on AM, Top 40 rap or that God awful "new" country on FM, and America- Survivor-Bachelor-Idol-Island-Kardashians on TV.

The Revolution will NOT be televised.

QuinnSutore 4 years, 3 months ago

The reason America is on the brink of a so-called "class warfare" is because we've become so greedy that stealing from the rich is more appealing than earning our keep. Keep teaching kids that we come from monkeys, sooner or later our society grows up and acts like them. They're just trying to topple the silverbacks at the top who have earned their keep, because they think they should have a nice TV to go with their Escalade and welfare check.

Cait McKnelly 4 years, 3 months ago

Spoken like a true member of the oligarchy.

jafs 4 years, 3 months ago

Please post some examples of how those at the top have "earned" their money - especially those wonderful CEO's that run the companies into bankruptcy and walk away with multi-million severance packages.

aa469285 4 years, 3 months ago

Even if examples were posted, who appointed you arbiter of what income is "earned" or "not earned?" Just because you and cait48 feel others are overpaid for their work, doesn't make their work less worthwhile.

jafs 4 years, 3 months ago

I don't have the right to my opinion?

Please explain how CEO's that run their companies into bankruptcy deserve multi-million dollar severance packages.

Is that work "worthwhile"?

jafs 4 years, 3 months ago

I am concerned with the direction our country is heading, and has been for some time, as an American citizen.

That gives me the right to be concerned about these issues, and to pay attention to them - if you don't like that, I suppose you could move to another country where people have fewer rights.

That's the whole point, for god's sake, these guys get contracts that guarantee severance packages regardless of performance. And people make posts about how these folks are earning their money.

Meanwhile, since the money is increasingly distributed to the top executives, folks in the middle and bottom who may be doing a perfectly good job are not being compensated adequately - middle class wages have been stagnant for some time, while top salaries have increased quite a bit.

thebigspoon 4 years, 3 months ago

That' BS of the highest order, Larry. A very significant part of the financial dung-heap we're in right now was caused by the greed and illegal actions of the very people you tell me are not "of your concern". I am not a stockholder of GM or any bank, but I am paying the price, as are you, of the malfeasance of the heads of those corporations and institutions. NOTICE I did not say the issue would be solved by my being rich, too, but that this mess is of concern to me and it was caused, in large part, by those very peopole and their greed. And this is a very significant portion of any "class warfare".

Scott Drummond 4 years, 3 months ago

Sounds like the welfare recipients on Wall Street if you ask me.

Cait McKnelly 4 years, 3 months ago

LOL!! You have a macro for that Tom? You just push one button on your computer? I should show you how to do that, Tom. Will save you time and wear on your arthritis.

kernal 4 years, 3 months ago

You give him too much credit for this, Tom. He only caught the ball; your boys got it rolling.

Fossick 4 years, 3 months ago

Seriously, Tom, President Obama is not the center of the Universe. But look on the bright side, this little misconception means that you and he have something in common. Maybe he'll even invite you over for a beer summit some time and you can both talk about him.

Fossick 4 years, 3 months ago

It sounds like a really cool job. Is it union?

QuinnSutore 4 years, 3 months ago

Exactly. It's been brewing for a few years, but after the most recent election, all hell's broken loose. I suppose this is the change we were waiting for?

Shane Garrett 4 years, 3 months ago

Don't Worry Tom: Obama will get his because: "Obama to face Shariah court? Cleric says president 'must embrace Islam' or be tried when Muslims take over U.S.," from WorldNetDaily, February 27:

President Obama must embrace Islam as a way of life or face the consequences of a trial under the Shariah Islamic court system, declared British extremist cleric Anjem Choudary.

Fossick 4 years, 3 months ago

Cait48 "I suggest you look at the facts surrounding this"

Ah, Cait, words mean things. There is a huge difference between a school board dropping a requirement to study something, and saying that its study is "banned" in the state. The study of Jefferson is no more banned in Texas than the study of evolution was banned in Kansas in the 1990s. Somehow the KU Museum of Natural History managed to make it through those dark, dark times intact.

jafs 4 years, 3 months ago

Texas is also changing their textbooks, downplaying the influence of Jefferson and others, removing rap music and inserting country music instead, etc.

After a little while, all of the textbooks will be changed - Texas apparently supplies much of the rest of the country.

Then people will have a different view of history.

LoveThsLife 4 years, 3 months ago

Why is Texas down playing Jefferson's influence? That doesn't make any sense. Jefferson was huge proponent of states rights as opposed to Adams who was more interested in a strong federal government. I would think that Texas, of all states, would be more in favor of Jefferson's views of government given their history.

Cait McKnelly 4 years, 3 months ago

Because in the opinion of the Texas School Board, Jefferson (who was the author of "separation of church and state" and actually coined the phrase in an 1812 letter) was a godless scumbag and everything he said refutes their belief that "this country was founded on Christian values". Go figure.

OldEnuf2BYurDad 4 years, 3 months ago

"In the last two years Wall Street profits gained over 700%."

Uh... do you have a link? That looks impossible. We've been in a recession. I just think that number is suspect.

Fossick 4 years, 3 months ago

The fact that we have been in a recession means that it is likely true, but less meaningful than assumed. During a recession "Wall Street profits" take a huge hit - banks were losing squillions on bad mortgages, capital losses on their trading accounts, you name it. When you get back to 'normal' times*, profits bounce back. The fact that they are up 700% (if it is indeed a fact) says nothing because they are up from an historic low. It's like saying your salary is up 10,000% because you just got your first-ever paycheck.

  • FWIW, I am not at all convinced that happy days are here again, and I would opine that those profits are mostly the result of fraudulent accounting (e.g. the lack of mark-to-market on assets) than actual returns. But it does not change the argument that it's easy to get big ups coming off a low.

remember_username 4 years, 3 months ago

It is often overstated that the wealthy few in this country should be protected from increased taxes because of the jobs they are responsible for creating. But how much income is generated among those wealthy few simply by moving money around from place to place in an international market? By the time those profits trickle down to the least affluent among us there is nothing left.

Sinohawk introduces a common believe among Americans that this is a country when any common citizen can rise up to be one of the wealthy. This belief is encouraged by the wealthy as a means of protection against the common citizen from attempting to regulate their wealth. After all, if becoming wealthy can happen to any hardworking citizen why would that citizen encourage laws that would dampen their dream.

Not every hardworking person can make it to that top 1% - a large number were born there, married there, a few relocated to be there, and some of them simply lucked out. Of the few hardworking Americans that achieved that status a good many appear to have gotten there by stepping all over any number of equally hardworking people. And yet many "Want-to-be-Rich-and-Famous" Americans believe those in the top 1% deserve to be there because they, the "Want-to-Be's", believe they deserve to be there as well.

LloydDobbler 4 years, 3 months ago

Well said! To add to that, I think what is going on in Wisconsin is emblematic of a bigger problem that not everyone needs to be, should be, or wants to be ultra rich, but everyone needs to earn a living wage. We have many hard working citizens who continue to see their wages slide backwards and their opportunities diminish despite their best efforts. The amount that a CEO in a manufacturing plant commands in salary relative to that of the men and women actually producing the products is off kilter. It's that simple. Combine that with a previous poster's comment about America becoming the land of paper-pushing and we have a pretty serious burgeoning problem.

ModerateOne 4 years, 3 months ago

cait -- the facts are interesting and create helpful fodder for debate, but you have done nothing to support your point. Why (in your opinion) do the statistical facts you cite necessarily lead to the conclusion that there should/must be class warfare?

Fossick 4 years, 3 months ago

"Only 5% of the people remain in long-term poverty. "

Nor is it difficult to explain why. Show me the long-term poor and I'll show you people with a history of crippling drug and alcohol problems, lack of education, low intelligence, dysfunctional families, and physical, emotional, or sexual abuse. In short, they have either have a problem that keeps them from working, or they have no work to offer.

For everyone else, if you can keep a job and only quit to take a better one, you will live better than the vast majority of the people in the world live today or have ever lived.

deec 4 years, 3 months ago

Your numbers are from 1975-1991. They are not reflecdtive of today's conditions.

deec 4 years, 3 months ago

Because they reflect wage and world political conditions then, not now. A lot of things have changed in 20 years. Globalization and outsourcing are two conditions that have changed since the 1970's and 1980's.

Mari Aubuchon 4 years, 3 months ago

First of all, this study followed 3,725 individuals, not 50K families, ages 16 and over who remained part of the University of Michigan's Panel Survey on Income Dynamics for a 16-year period. Also, the participants moved from the lowest 20% to the highest three quintiles or 60%.

Not only is that Cox and Alm study as old as the hills, but it has also been discredited because of poor research design. For one thing, the majority of the lowest-earning quintile were high school and college students and young, entry-level unskilled workers. Needless to say, most of these people had considerably higher incomes 16 years later. Most 35 year olds have higher incomes than they did at 19. Just because you are no longer a "poor" college student does not mean that you have actually climbed the ladder from the socioeconomic class into which you were born.

In truth, income mobility has fallen in the US over the past 40 years. Here is an article concerning this issue,complete with links to a study by the that commie Federal Reserve Bank of Boston: http://www.bnet.com/blog/financial-business/as-income-mobility-falls-american-dream-fades/1160

jonas_opines 4 years, 3 months ago

There should be a Marxist version of a Godwin

Taliban and terrorist versions too, for that matter.

cato_the_elder 4 years, 3 months ago

Looks like the election of a faculty-lounge Marxist and veteran community organizer as President of the United States ain't enough to satisfy Cait48, who went on to pony up her sincere belief that the French Revolution was fought before the American Revolution was.

According to liberal Democrats that kind of ignorance is only exhibited by Sarah Palin.

Cait McKnelly 4 years, 3 months ago

I apologized for that, cato, and admitted my mistake. Can you say the same for Sarah?

cato_the_elder 4 years, 3 months ago

She's never said anything as ignorant as what you said. For that matter, the verbal gaffes uttered by Barack Obama have far eclipsed anything said by George W. Bush (Obama's reference to "corpse"-men being one of the worst), but you wouldn't know it from following most of the American media.

jafs 4 years, 3 months ago

Bush was a "C" student.

Obama excelled in school.

cato_the_elder 4 years, 3 months ago

Jafs, the only reason you know that is that Bush did the honorable thing and released his college and graduate school transcripts from the git-go.

In contrast, Obama has steadfastly refused, without comment, to release any of his, despite repeated requests that he do so. Why won't he? What's he hiding? Enlighten us please.

cato_the_elder 4 years, 3 months ago

Orangechubb, I assume your post was directed at Jafs' earlier one.

jafs 4 years, 3 months ago

Well, I guess I have to point out the obvious.

cato's post commented that Obama has made more verbal "gaffes" than Bush.

I'm more interested in the intelligence of our leaders, and on that score Obama wins hands down.

jafs 4 years, 3 months ago

I disagree that everything is opinion, and that there are no facts to consider.

And, I think that various methods used to test performance reflect something valid, although there are flaws to testing, of course.

jafs 4 years, 3 months ago

Wow.

I'll be more specific:

I disagree that it is simply an opinion that Obama is more intelligent than Bush - I think it is a fact.

You disagree - fine.

I'm tired of this conversation and will not respond any more.

devobrun 4 years, 3 months ago

"The average annual income of the top 1% in the country is $1,137,684. The average annual income of the top 10% is $164,647. The average annual income of the bottom 90% is $31,294."


Averages hide information. Indeed, the whole idea of an expected value is to integrate the data to eliminate details.

Just what do these average annual incomes mean? January 2011 labor department statistics show a 58.4% employment to population ratio.

That means that 58.4% of the population is employed. Are the mutha jones numbers inclusive of those 41.6% who earn no income?

Actually, there are numerous question that accompany statistics. Simple reporting of numbers is fraudulent reporting. All statistics come with definitions, context and discussion. Unless you are an ideologue. A sycophant who questions only that which is contrary to your ideology.

Fossick 4 years, 3 months ago

Lovethislife: "Why is Texas down playing Jefferson's influence? That doesn't make any sense."

And when something doesn't make sense, there's probably more to the story. Cait's link of someone liveblogging a debate by the School Board to change one standard, thereby dropping Jefferson, means nothing in isolation. It certainly does not mean, as CJSafe wonders, that Jefferson is banned. For all we know, they simply moved him over to the Founding Father unit after they threw out Eugene v. Debs and Mary Harris "Mother" Jones.

As you note, Jefferson was a huge proponent of state's rights. He was also a huge proponent of secession (read the first line of the Declaration). He was a huge proponent of the states being able to nullify Federal law (see: Obamacare). In short, Jefferson provides the intellectual firepower that underlies the politics that liberals fear most, the de-centralist, states-rights, small government* tea party fanatics. I would not be surprised to find that liberals are soon complaining that there's too much Jefferson in the school books, not that there's too little.

  • Tea partiers will make sense as soon as they discover they can have their country; they just need to give up their empire to get it.

LoveThsLife 4 years, 3 months ago

That was what I was referring to. It doesn't make sense for Texas to look over Jefferson. I grew up there and had Texas history jammed down my throat as a wee one.

If I remember right, I think it is in the state constitution that they can choose to secede from the union if they desire. And even if it isn't...it's a common joke down there. I don't really get why they would skip over Jefferson of all the founding fathers. I could see Texans (in general) having more issues with Madison and Adams than Jefferson ( if they were going to take issue with any of them at all).

Personally, I find the founding fathers interesting. I think schools don't do enough in analyzing their ideals and thoughts. Too often they all get lumped together as if they were one unified body.

ivalueamerica 4 years, 3 months ago

The poor and middle class are loosing more every day so the wealthy can receive higher tax breaks.

devobrun 4 years, 3 months ago

The standard of living to which they have become accustomed, Kris.

Never mind that their standard of living is better than the average of the rest of the world. Or that they have better health care, transportation, communication, water, food and clothing than anybody had 150 years ago.

It is all relative and so long as some people have fabulous wealth....they will be jealous. They will want more than they have and they will be unhappy with the fact that some people have so much more than they have.

And that isn't a bad thing. But when those jealous people expect to get stuff for free, that irritates me. When they have no means of acquiring better stuff, but they demand better stuff, it causes some people to feel sorry for them. It causes others to ignore them. And it causes some people to become irritated by them.

kristopherfisk 4 years, 3 months ago

I'm glad you're not in favor of redistribution. I don't know why people can't see what an epic FAIL that has been in every country that has tried it. Somehow, magically, it will work here though...

devobrun 4 years, 3 months ago

Actually redistribution is marginally successful if the country is homogeneous. Sweden gets by with a socialist system because everybody in the country is Swedish!

When a country is more diverse, the population has different expectations. It is harder to please people and it is harder to sell redistribution of wealth. Arguments ensue and political compromises are tenuous at best. It muddles along in this country because redistribution promulgated by the democrats periodically gets cut back by the republicans.

We just saw the backlash in November that Obamacare and general democrat redistribution schemes fostered. It is a good thing that we can unelect redistributers. Elsen we might get a Tunisia, Egypt, or Libya right here in 'merica.

jafs 4 years, 3 months ago

Actually, most people in this country think that wealth is distributed more equally than it actually is, and would prefer it to be even more equally distributed than that.

jafs 4 years, 3 months ago

Are you really interested?

Google the subject and you can find a lot of information on it.

My home page this morning had an article on the subject, which referred to a Mother Jones article - I'm sure you can google that as well and find it.

Most people underestimate the wealth inequity, believing wealth is more evenly distributed, and would prefer an even more equal distribution than what they believe is currently happening.

jafs 4 years, 3 months ago

I'm tired of trying to discuss this with you.

Google "mother jones wealth inequality" and you will find the article.

Mari Aubuchon 4 years, 3 months ago

A Harvard business prof and a behavioral economist recently asked more than 5,000 Americans how they thought wealth is distributed in the United States. Most thought that it’s more balanced than it actually is. Asked to choose their ideal distribution of wealth, 92% picked one that was even more equitable.

Take a look:

http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/02/income-inequality-in-america-chart-graph

Flap Doodle 4 years, 3 months ago

Here's the deal, at high noon on July 14th 2021, cait and I should meet at the SW corner of Mass and 9th St. We'll each be wearing a Phrygian cap. If there has been an armed insurection in America similar to the French Revolution between today and that day. I will eat my Phrygian cap standing there on the sidewalk. If there has not been an armed insurection, I will expect cait to eat her cap. Come watch the fun.

Cait McKnelly 4 years, 3 months ago

Sorry. I have no expectation of being alive in 2021. I have a chronic illness that I will most likely die from before then. I hope that medical science makes enough strides to keep that from happening (and that's also hoping that I can afford the treatment) but frankly, it doesn't look good.

sr80 4 years, 3 months ago

i got a job for those soldiers coming back from iraq, afghanistan and it ain't standing in a unemployment line or caterering to the fat cats!!!! Beware 1% your time has come!!!!!

Fossick 4 years, 3 months ago

I'm pretty sure they won't consider used Birkenstocks and bong resin ample payment for any job you have to offer.

sr80 4 years, 3 months ago

but the birkenstocks are resoled and dyed,as far as the resin goes,some good old georgia mountainf#@k herb will do the job and since your in that 1%.enjoy your political asylum while you can!!!!!

Fossick 4 years, 3 months ago

Top 1%? You flatter me. I've been a paper millionaire and I've thumbed thru the yellow pages for bankruptcy attorneys. The former is better, the latter leaves a bitter taste. I don't blame y'all for for blaming others for your failures; it's human nature. But the envy game doesn't work on most Americans, and with a little luck it never will.

sr80 4 years, 3 months ago

yes, you are correct that I/we. humans have this albatross of the 7 deadly sins too suffer.i believe i'm a excellent example for Envy and i qualify for the other 6,sorry to say!!!!

George Lippencott 4 years, 3 months ago

How come when I published Blogs on getting the 1% none of you supported??

Go back to the pre Reagan rates on the high rollers. The Pre -Bush rates are way too low.

Stop whacking the middle class! They may make more than you but they are getting hit harder and faster than many on the bottom. We have not cut our $800 B of entitlement programs that are means tested nor is either party discussing such. We did reduce the value of the family home by about 25% and now 25% of homeowners are upside down (those are not the poor). We did increase taxes on the middle and lower class hereabouts. We have not even introduced a bill to raise taxes on the wealthy in Kansas. We are talking about cutting benefits to government employees retrospectively and they are mostly middle class.

I was sitting in a room one day with a bunch of government consultants who were in or close to that top 1%. They were worrying about the Watts riots (we were in LA). One of them made a comment about the military defending against the rioters crossing the barricades. My Lieutenant (very poorly paid and with two dependents) commented quietly that they might be assuming incorrectly which side of the barricades he would be on. You could have heard a pin drop.

Fossick 4 years, 3 months ago

"How come when I published Blogs on getting the 1% none of you supported??"

Because it was a bad idea when you published it, too. Why is it that you feel the need to 'get' 3 million of your fellow citizens? What guilt do they carry that the next 1% don't, or the 1% that follows them, right down to you? What stain on their soul justifies your desire, not to better your own financial station, but to rip down someone else merely because theirs is higher, regardless of their actions, or what they do with their money?

devobrun 4 years, 3 months ago

And then the rioters won, George.

And the 1%ers won too, George.

And the middle class lost.


It is all about race. It is all about politics and who has power. At one point in time, the WWII generation came to grips with the fact that black skinned people could do the job, feel love and generally be human. It was hard, and then the Bloods and Crips came along and the hope of JFK was shattered.


We're sunk, George. Its over. We chose diversity and we got the end of civilization. Not because of the Blacks....because of humanity.

George Lippencott 4 years, 3 months ago

I am not ready to give up yet. If we would simnply stop being driven by sound bites from party elites and recognize common interest we can get this solved.

devobrun 4 years, 3 months ago

In this age of Twitter and Facebook, we are defined by the sound bite.

It is reactionary, George. It is 200 characters and out. It is posturing on the web.

It is created reality of the most base sort, George.

Give up, you old fuddy duddy. It's over.

Buy gold. Hide in the woods. People have turned toward the easy, cheap, and non-productive. Then they strike because they aren't getting enough.

Its over, George. The concept of individual excellence has succumbed to the egalitarian utopia of the collective. And the economy is tanking. And the pirates win. And health care is free. And we descend into the abyss of banality.

Banality of the web. Banality of the socialistic cure. Banality of the capitalistic cure. You are done, George. Quit.........trying to change the banal. It is not working.

jafs 4 years, 3 months ago

What keeps you from committing suicide?

Your world view seems very depressed, bitter, and nihilistic.

jafs 4 years, 3 months ago

In what?

Your posts have been completely nihilistic in content.

devobrun 4 years, 3 months ago

Question to you jafs is from what do I gain faith? God? Humanity? Knowledge? I have faith, jafs. It is up to you to find your own. And that BTW, is the meaning of life.

jafs 4 years, 3 months ago

I'm fine - I'm not the one who posts extremely angry, nihilistic posts - you are.

George Lippencott 4 years, 3 months ago

Sorry my annecdote was not about blacks it was about the 1% vs the rest of us.

ivalueamerica 4 years, 3 months ago

There is a great redistribution of wealth happening right now here in the USA.

The GOP is working hard to make sure that the low and middle income brackets end up paying a greater percentage of their income to taxes than the top income brackets.

The poor and middle class are therefore carrying a greater burden in supporting the costs of maintaining our country while the rich pay less.

That sucks.

verity 4 years, 3 months ago

I've got news for you, Cait. We've always had class warfare and ever since the Reagon administration, the lower and middle classes have been losing. We've been sold down the river because, in my opinion, we have been so stupid as to vote for the people who spend the most money rather than bothering to educate ourselves. Oh, that, and we believe the lies we're told because it suits us to rather than make informed decisions.

Yeah, I'm in a grumpy mood. I hate what is happening to our country.

Kontum1972 4 years, 3 months ago

"Why America is on the Brink of Class Warfare"

answer: -------->GREED!

JayhawkVeteran 4 years, 3 months ago

I've seen enough stories of broke: Lottery winners, inheritance recipients, lawsuit judgment winners and professional athletes, to know unfortunately a lot of folks will be poor no matter what you give them!

tbaker 4 years, 3 months ago

Why is America on the Brink of Class Warfare? Because less than half of Americans pay any income taxes at all and of those who do, the top 50% of that group pays 90% of all the taxes collected - and - now this group is being told they are not paying enough. The productive portion of American society has continued to shrink and the moocher class of society has continued to grow, and the imbalance has reached the point where both groups won't tolerate any reduction in what they believe they are entitled to.

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it."

Frederic Bastiat

Flap Doodle 4 years, 3 months ago

tbaker, that's the inconvenient truth in this whole hoop-de-doo.

jayhawklawrence 4 years, 3 months ago

If there is such a thing as an impending "class war" (doubtful) I know where the soldiers are coming from.

According to this study, 40 per cent of minority students fail to graduate from high school.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2010/11/patchwork-nation-mapping-high-school-dropout-rates.html

The above link shows a USA map of graduation rates. My guess is that these areas will also be our biggest sink holes for tax dollars in the future.

It is not going to do any good to convince these kids that all their problems can be blamed on the big bad corporations.

You want to change your life? Open a book and exercise your brain...

Learn how to kick your own butt in gear instead of blaming somebody else.

gl0ck0wn3r 4 years, 3 months ago

Sven, what was your family's involvement with Quisling in the old world?

Flap Doodle 4 years, 3 months ago

Spam might trigger class warfare. Sven, would you care to elaborate on the spam attack that appears to be part of your campaign?

BruceWayne 4 years, 3 months ago

I am an anonymous poster and I approve this message.

Olympics 4 years, 3 months ago

Canada regulators announced last week they would reject efforts by Canada's right wing Prime Minister, Stephen Harper, to repeal a law that forbids lying on broadcast news.

Canada's Radio Act requires that "a licenser may not broadcast....any false or misleading news." The provision has kept Fox News and right wing talk radio out of Canada and helped make Canada a model for liberal democracy and freedom. As a result of that law, Canadians enjoy high quality news coverage including the kind of foreign affairs and investigative journalism that flourished in this country before Ronald Reagan abolished the "Fairness Doctrine" in 1987.

yankeevet 4 years, 3 months ago

MERRIAM, Kan. -- More than a dozen dogs taken from a puppy mill and a suspected animal hoarder in western Kansas could soon have new homes here in the metro.

The cocker spaniels and Chihuahuas are currently at Animal Haven in Merriam. All have received medical care and spent time with a foster family.

"When the animals come in from the state, a lot of times they're in pretty poor shape. They've been in pretty bad conditions, and so they need a lot of work. They need a lot of medical care, just attention and time in foster care, time to get ready to go home," said Stephanie Meyer of Animal Haven.

Most of the dogs brought in to Animal Haven are puppies. They will be available for adoption on Saturday.

Jimo 4 years, 2 months ago

Brink? Dear Sir, the war is almost over and the upper class has won. Watch it or they'll be calling you Rip van Winkle.

Seriously, what's next? Warning us that Prussia and Austrio-Hungary might be on the brink of conflict?

Flap Doodle 4 years, 2 months ago

"ivalueamerica (anonymous) says… There is a great redistribution of wealth happening right now here in the USA."

Aren't you in Peru?

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