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Posted by Bigprune October 19, 2008 at 9:30 a.m.

Powell Endorses Obama, It's NOT about race*

Colin Powell has officially endorsed Obama as president. He said it was how Obama has handled the financial crisis. My question is: What EXACTLY has Obama done regarding the financial crisis? Say he'd ask Warren Buffet?Mr. Powell said it was not about race in his decision. Just as 95% of the African Americans voting for Obama aren't doing it because of race. As well as 80% of the African American members of US Armed Services aren't voting for Obama because of race.Nah.

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  1. BABBOY (anonymous) says…

    BigPrune is a racist.

  2. telleroftruth (anonymous) says…

    Powell did not say it was because of the way Obama handled the economic crisis. What he actually said was, "In the case of Mr. McCain, I found that he was a little unsure as to how to deal with the economic problems that we were having and almost every day there was a different approach to the problem. And that concerned me, sensing that he didn't have a complete grasp of the economic problems that we had.And he (Obama) displayed a steadiness, an intellectual curiosity, a depth of knowledge and an approach to looking at problems like this and picking a vice president that, I think, is ready to be president on day one. And also, in not just jumping in and changing every day, but showing intellectual vigor. I think that he has a, a definitive way of doing business that would serve us well."As for what he has done regarding the financial crisis, much like Mcaine, he has been putting together an economic plan to help us get out of this situation.I have a question for you. If Obama had more experience, then could Powell vote for him without being racist? (By the way, Obama has more experience than President Bush had when he was elected.)Since the stock market is controlled on the fears and expectations of people, if a lot of them think like you I am sure it is going to take a beating.

  3. jonas_opines (anonymous) says…

    "My question is: What exactly has Obama done regarding the financial crisis?"From what I've noticed, he's been calm. Which is likely what is needed most, rather than the cries that our civilization may perhaps end completely if we don't get this thing fixed with an enormous bill by this Friday at 11AM. Which, if you didn't know, is Bullsh@#.

  4. jonas_opines (anonymous) says…

    "I would like to know what inexperienced liberal white guy or gal he has endorsed in the past."Well, change that "liberal" to "conservative," and I can think of at least one. Which might be a strike against Powell's support, I suppose.

  5. scott3460 (anonymous) says…

    Someone please tell me, just what is McCain's plan. He says he has one & he says it's not more of the same bush, but he never, ever, says what it is. Instead we get attacks and nonsense like Joe the Plumber (a Keating relative.)

  6. CarterFaucheaux (anonymous) says…

    Paul Krugman won the most recent Nobel Prize in Economics. He endorsed Obama.http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-116841

  7. tangential_reasoners_anonymous (anonymous) says…

    I don't know... if a personal BLOG lacks *poetry*, it's just not worth my time. And frankly, I see no rhyme ( or reason ) for this particular installment.

  8. beatrice (anonymous) says…

    Powell's support of Obama is NOT about race, claims the brainiac BigPrune -- but BP's objection to his approval sure appears to be.LJWorld, why not give a Grand Wizard a blog while you are at it. What an absolute joke that such uninformed, biased and bigoted pukes are allowed to blog on here and have their headlines appear as if they are real stories written by real reporters. I would be ashamed of myself if I worked for the LJWorld -- and I'd be looking for another job. If you are not going to qualify the writters, dump the blogs now!

  9. beatrice (anonymous) says…

    "President Bust." A little Freudian slip there, mike?

  10. CarterFaucheaux (anonymous) says…

    "That being said, I believe that a large part of Krugman getting hin Nobel, was because he hates President Bust on everything, and unfortunately, the nobel is more about politics than merrit anymore."This sentence pretty much proves why your opinion is worthless. Go back to elementary school.

  11. BigPrune (anonymous) says…

    telleroftruth,You say: (By the way, Obama has more experience than President Bush had when he was elected.)You have got to be kidding! Has Obama EVER been a governor? Nope. Governors make executive decisions all day long, and a lot of them without any consultation because there are so many! FYI., Sarah Palin HAS more experience than Obama!

  12. BigPrune (anonymous) says…

    ...and by the way, I am NOT a racist. Just because I don't want the United States to turn into a socialist country does not make me a racist. As for Powell's endorsement of Obama not being about race, I am not so sure his statement is truthful.

  13. Pay_N_My_Way (anonymous) says…

    Colin Powell is a racist

  14. RedwoodCoast (anonymous) says…

    'Why Bush II picked Powell as Secretary of State, I'll never know, but his intelligence was wrong.'Could it be, maybe, that it WASN'T about race????I think that holds just about as much water as your aforementioned theory on Powell's endorsement.

  15. boltzmann (anonymous) says…

    BigPrune (Anonymous) says:":and by the way, I am NOT a racist. Just because I don't want the United States to turn into a socialist country does not make me a racist. As for Powell's endorsement of Obama not being about race, I am not so sure his statement is truthful."1) Socialism by definition is the ownership by the state of the means of production. BigPrune, can you state specific plans in Obama's stated platform that involve nationalization of private industries?2) As to Powell's endorsement... Do you have specific evidence that he is being untruthful? If not, on what do you base your opinion? Henry Kissinger, who is white, has endorsed McCain, who is also white. Do you also accuse Kissinger of racism?

  16. BigPrune (anonymous) says…

    For Question #2). Obama doesn't have any experience, and actually Sarah Palin has more experience than Obama. Why would Powell endorse Obama?For Question #1) It's Obama's use of "spread the wealth around." THAT in itself speaks volumes. In Marxist theory socialism being the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles. Or, a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole. "Spread the Wealth Around"

  17. Agnostick (anonymous) says…

    Your paranoia is exuberant, pruney girl. It'll be fun to watch you squeal, if Obama is elected.

  18. boltzmann (anonymous) says…

    BigPrune (Anonymous) says:"For Question #2). Obama doesn't have any experience, and actually Sarah Palin has more experience than Obama. Why would Powell endorse Obama?" You are assuming that Powell shares your opinion of Palin versus Obama even though he specifically stated that he does not. You assessment that his endorsement of Obama is racist is based on the false assumption that Powell shares your opinion of Palin, but choses to endorse Obama anyway because he shares his skin color. This is nonsense. "For Question #1) It's Obama's use of "spread the wealth around." THAT in itself speaks volumes. In Marxist theory socialism being the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.Or, a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole."You can regurgitate words, but you still haven't stated any specific Obama policies that would fit the definition of socialism. Simply tweaking tax rates does not amount to socialism. The only policy decision in recent times that fits the definition at least to a degree is the partial nationalization of the banking industry promoted by the Bush administration.

  19. RJ (anonymous) says…

    Obama's plans for healthcare will lead to socialized medicine. This is evidenced by his statements about healthcare itself being "a right." You can't mandate healthcare without regulating it too. More regulation leads to more control. Increasing control leads to increasing responsiblies on the government, which leads to the need for more control. You get the point.He says the same thing about going to college. Eventually the government will own all of the universities as well. He will require taxpayers to pay for "everyone who wants to go" to college. Eduacation is already sociallized in this country, as are many other things. Most of the things that are socialized on the Federal level are in bad shape. (The VA system, Social Security, education, infrastructure, emergency preparedness, the Federal Reserve, Freddie/Fannie, National Parks, Border Patrol, etc...)By taxing our income, the government is, in effect, controlling the means of production. Our physical labor is the means of production and if the government taxes and regulates the processes and output of our labor, than they begin to gain control over the means of production.Obama also wants to control the modes of production when it comes to energy. He wants to impose huge tax increases on energy providers that produce it in a way he dis-agrees with while giving huge handouts to energy providers that produce it in ways that he does agree with. His tax incentives will essentially lead to socialized energy production.Unemployment benefits and welfare also interfere with the means of production, by enabling people to survive without working. Where in nature is anything able to survive without working?My point is, you can't turn America socialist all at once, so none of Obama's plans can be said to be purely socialist in themselves; it is just that they represent a "change" (pardon the pun) in course, down a road towards socialism. Government can't "give" anything that it hasn't taken. Government can't get anything without taking it from private citizens. Why do we need a middle man? Why can't Americans give directly to their neighbors? T\he truth is, the things that government is least involved with work the best; churches, private business and organizations such as NGO's. Individual citizens, volunteer and service organizations like the Red Cross do things more effectively than the government ever will. Private schools and home-schooling produce better students than the public school system ever will. This is because it takes good teaching and one-on-one attention to teach, not federal funding. P.S. Now don't change the subject and talk about Bush's bailout being socialist, b/c most conservatives would agree, and we are pretty pi$$ed off about that too. Your only argument can be a defense of socialism, in which case, we will never agree.

  20. reverber (anonymous) says…

    "Just because I don't want the United States to turn into a socialist country ..."Too late. Haven't you read the news about how the government is "nationalizing" our banking system? Have you read about any of the myriad subsidies given to big business? We now have a welfare state in which the recipients of said welfare are huge corporations. In Russia, government owns big corporations. In America, big corporations own government.

  21. nugget (anonymous) says…

    Racist.Wait, scratch that. Anonymous racist brought to you by the Lawrence Journal World.

  22. jaywalker (anonymous) says…

    General Powell is the best of men. It might be disappointing to conservatives that he's voting for Obama, but his record in service for this country is impeccable and he is enormously respected around the world. His rationale for selecting BO was solid and nearly paralleled my own. We need a leader in the White House. There is much about BO that concerns me, but as fate would have it he is the better choice in this decision.

  23. llama726 (anonymous) says…

    So... if a white guy endorses McCain can I decry his blatant racial preference for white people?

  24. jonas_opines (anonymous) says…

    "Your only argument can be a defense of socialism, in which case, we will never agree."Your suggestion, then, is a pure, 100% capitalist system? That's never existed, and my guess is it would be an absolute disaster. Why don't we all just up and admit that what we're really talking about is Degrees of socialism, and that at which degree you draw your line is more or less an arbitrary choice. Mine is about 15-20% government owned (in a mature, developed economy), because it seems to work the best. For a developing, I would say about 50% for maximum effect, at least based on the successful developing countries over the last century.In other words, military, infrastructure, police, fire, emergency response, health inspections. All of those are also run by the government. My guess is, most of them are as inefficient as you think the healthcare industry will become. So, do you think that those things should be privatized as well, or should they be left as socialist institutions?

  25. rrussell (Rex Russell) says…

    My first thought after seeing Powell speak Sunday morning, was that here was a man everyone respected. An opinion beyond reproach. An opinion from a man that was loved and respected from both parties and both ends of the political spectrum. And that in itself, something nearly impossible to find in this day and age. A political figure above the grime and slime of Washington politics. Watch now in the next coming weeks as the political right will begin to take shots at his judgement and integrity.

  26. stevebarsky (anonymous) says…

    "I also recall Powell going in front of the United Nations about a decade later and making our case that Iraq had WMD's. Why GW Bush picked Powell as Secretary of State, I'll never know, but Powell's intelligence was wrong. "Bush: "Please, Colin, don't do it! The evidence for WMD's in Iraq is highly questionable! If you go in front of the U.N. with this, it'll only lead us into an unjust and possibly illegal war!"Powell: "Outta my way, honky mofo! You got nothin' to say about this! Bwaaa ha ha ha ha ha!"

  27. staff04 (anonymous) says…

    They need to add a "suggest removal" link for blogs too.

  28. SMe (anonymous) says…

    Been said before probably be said again. It's certainly funny how the Obama supporters find that McCain supporters are "racist."

  29. staff04 (anonymous) says…

    Here's a fun selection of comments from FreeRepublic, where BigPrune feels right at home:(Compiled by Wonkette)"I'm not surprised that Powell has endorsed a Chicago street thug over a real American hero either. "How 'bout some 'blow' General? Then we'll go help ACORN register some more 'voters'."" "This is why you don't let traitors in your midst. They are capable of doing far more harm than good." "It's all about Powell's racism and everyone knows it""Well, there goes the Muslim vote!""Oh please:.he's black and he is endorsing one of his brothers:just too obvious. It's not hard for the everyday American to understand." "Planet of the APes mentality.."Monkey supports monkey".." "Before this election, I treated blacks as individuals. I was wrong. They are a clan.""Is it ok still to say "white sheet?"""The McCain campaign should take Powell's $2,300 campaign contribution and throw it out on a busy street. Watch the hounds jump all over the bills and take that "welfare money". ""I just saw the video. Somebody should toll Powell that yes, it IS a problem if a Moslem becomes President. The Constitution is not a suicide pact!" ""blacks are the most racist group of people in the USA." And the most ungrateful." "I wrote this on Malkiin's site: The Presidential Tyranny of Obama, these coming years, will hit all hard, and tragically. None will be spared, none will thrive. But of those hurt the most, it will be urban blacks (and hispanics to an extent). Among them there is no real sense of community, they will fight each other most viciously, the murder rate - already high - will skyrocket as groups fight for dominance. That is speculation on my part - and not an outcome I wish! I pray to G-d we will elect McCain."--------------------------------------------------------Prune and his pals, keeping it KKKlassy...

  30. Agnostick (anonymous) says…

    SMe (Anonymous) says:Been said before probably be said again. It's certainly funny how the Obama supporters find that McCain supporters are "racist."_____________________________________________________Yeah, I know what you mean. 'Cause it almost never works out like that.The way it usually works... the way it's *supposed* to work, is:If it looks like a duck...walks like a duck...quacks like a duck...flies like a duck...and swims like a duck...then it's usually... a...1978 Chevy Camaro.Also, where there's smoke, there's party streamers.Agnostickagnostick@excite.comhttp://www.uscentrist.orghttp://marciaford.blogspot.com

  31. staff04 (anonymous) says…

    I can't imagine why Powell would want to distance himself from such keen minds...

  32. staff04 (anonymous) says…

    BigPrune says:"If Powell goes the way of Oprah and endorses Obama this morning, the stock market is going to tank come Monday - just watch."http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2008/oct/18/obama_prepares_speak_kc/#c718163--------------------------------------------------------------10:05 ET Dow +221.02 at 9067.75, Nasdaq +30.78 at 1742.77, S&P +25.57 at 965.58:http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/briefing/StockTicker.aspx-------------------------------------------------------I think that's what they call an 0-fer.Who do ya got winning the Super Bowl, BigPrune? I think I need to head to the casino...

  33. none2 (anonymous) says…

    If the litmus test for bigotry is whether you have had sex with someone from some particular group of humans, then I would guess that 99% of the world's population is bigoted.I remember several years ago about the story of Abner Louima who had been sexually violated by a broom stick by a New York cops. The cop most responsible for the rape tried to get off the hook by saying he wouldn't have done such a thing because he had a black girlfriend. Maybe his problem was that he had never dated a black man.

  34. rrussell (Rex Russell) says…

    Thank you Tom for making my prophecy come true so soon. I think it took you all of about 45 minutes.The bright spot in all of this is that you will have at least 4 years of blog job security. Mr. Powell is still the honerable man that he was before his White House years when he was so beloved and also now. I always suspected he left the administration over issues and people he could not continue with. He has mostly kept silent about those times due to respect he still has for the country, no doubt. I have always respected his decision to leave when his conscience left him with no other option. His endorsement has meant more than any other to date. Let the rant against him begin.

  35. jaywalker (anonymous) says…

    "Obama has won and we have taken this country back from the war mongers and the people who tried to put the usa in economic ruin"That is a sad, grossly unintelliegent post. You're two for two on this string, couranna. Aimin' for Idiot of the Day?

  36. jonas_opines (anonymous) says…

    "It has been said that Bush had too many liberal leaning senior adm. officials and that was part of his problem."Bwahaha. You're just too much, Right-thinker. It's been said by whom? You? Conservative pundits? Other commentators here? The people, in short, who faced with the absolute failure of their pure ideology (as all pure ideology fails) have nothing left but to blame other people? Do you have any credible sources for the idea that Bush (chuckle) hired too many liberals?hahahahahahahaha. I can't even type that without laughing.

  37. gogoplata (anonymous) says…

    McCain and Obama were both for the bailout. Have some of you forgotten this fact?

  38. Keith (anonymous) says…

    BigPrune echoing Rush Limbaugh barks out:"Mr. Powell said it was not about race in his decision. I would like to know what inexperienced liberal white guy or gal he has endorsed in the past. "He just did, he endorsed Barack Obama, or does the fact that Barack Obama had a black father overshadow the fact that he also had a white mother?

  39. jonas_opines (anonymous) says…

    Whoa, how did I miss the biggest cliche out there?"I'm not a racist. When I was younger I went out with people from a lot of races."

  40. booklover (anonymous) says…

    OK Big Prune, I have had about enough out of you.So let me get this right. Just because you have "dated" women of different races in the past we are supposed to believe that you are not racist? Well, "parts" of your anatomy may not be racist, but you sir certainly are. And sexist too. As for Colin Powell, he is anything but. If race was the most in important factor in his endorsement, wouldn't it stand to reason that he would have supported Jesse Jackson or Alan Keyes? Far from it. Colin Powell is a much bigger man than that. You should try it.

  41. staff04 (anonymous) says…

    Oh Tom...there are so many things wrong with your last post...First: Michelle Obama isn't running for POTUS.Second: Powell didn't endorse Michelle Obama.Last, and undoubtedly most important: The article from snopes.com that you posted a link to says right in it that, "Much scrutiny and discussion has been focused on a single phrase within the thesis, the statement that "blacks must join in solidarity to combat a white oppressor." This phrase has repeatedly been quoted out of context and presented as if it reflected Michelle Obama's own philosophy, but in its full context it is clearly her speculation about what she thought some of the respondents she surveyed for her thesis (i.e., students who had attended Princeton in earlier years) might have been feeling"Tom, you suck at this. You are beyond a joke now. Like a caricature. Borat comes to mind. So ridiculous that it is becomes difficult to tell when the joke ends and Tom begins.

  42. staff04 (anonymous) says…

    In case you neglect to read my post like you obviously neglected to read the entire snopes article:"in its full context it is clearly her speculation about what she thought some of the respondents she surveyed for her thesis (i.e., students who had attended Princeton in earlier years) might have been feeling"Clearly. Speculation. About what others might be feeling.

  43. jonas_opines (anonymous) says…

    Right-thinker, you should just go on vacation and save yourself the embarrassment of the next couple of weeks. Get some sun or something. You delusions are now immediately obvious to anyone who even glances at them, and in the past you were at least capable, for a little while, of presenting yourself as something other than a wingnut. Not a prohibition against you, just advice, before you start shrieking about my fascist imposition against you.

  44. staff04 (anonymous) says…

    It was your link, genius! Now that you realize that it didn't support your jackassed position, it must be written by far-left loons.I gotta agree with jonas, Tom. Save some face and give this up.

  45. Pywacket (anonymous) says…

    (Not sure who put this together, but the facts are accurate.)How Racism WorksWhat if John McCain were a former president of the Harvard Law Review? What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating class? What if McCain were still married to the first woman he said 'I do' to? What if Obama were the candidate who left his first wife after she no longer measured up to his standards? What if Michelle Obama were a wife who not only became addicted to pain killers, but acquired them illegally through her charitable organization? What if Cindy McCain graduated from Harvard? What if Obama were a member of the Keating-5?What if McCain were a charismatic, eloquent speaker? If these questions reflected reality, do you really believe the election numbers would be as close as they are? This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes positive qualities in one candidate and emphasizes negative qualities in another when there is a color difference. PS: What if Barack Obama had an unwed, pregnant teenage daughter.... You are The Boss... which team would you hire? With America facing historic debt, 2 wars, stumbling health care, a weakened dollar, all-time high prison population, mortgage crises, bank foreclosures, etc. Educational Background: Obama: Columbia University - B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in International Relations. Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude Biden: University of Delaware - B.A. in History and B.A. in Political Science. Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.) vs. McCain: United States Naval Academy - Class rank: 894 of 899 Palin: Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in Journalism Now, which team are you going to hire?

  46. staff04 (anonymous) says…

    ls04, that's "muslin terriost" Get it straight.http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/10/obama_sign_in_yard_stirs_up_neighbors.html?refresh=1http://www.gazetteonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=/20081019/news/710199982/1001/news

  47. bad_dog (anonymous) says…

    "hat about electing a guy who didn't even go to high school?"-MarionMarion, it's not to late to get your GED, should you announce your campaign for dog catcher. I'll donate $1 to your campaign. Heck, Powell might even consider endorsing you.

  48. preebo (anonymous) says…

    Of course the endorsement of Ret. Gen./Fmr Sec. of State Colin Powell (R) isn't about race. It is about his capacity for leadership as he clearly laid out for Tom Brokaw on Sunday. He did concede that both candidate would make a good President, but he indicated that Sen. Barack Obama would make the better President in the world as it is now. I will admit I wasn't suprised by the endorsement, but I was pleased and reaffirmed in my support for Sen. Obama for President....another interesting side note on the story of endorsements. I was particularly suprised by the Chicago Tribunes endorsement of Sen. Obama for President. Apparently, the Tribune has never endorsed a Democratic candidate for President in U.S. history. Remember this is the Tribune and not the Sun-Times. The Tribune is one of the most conservative large-market publications in the country. You could argue that they were driven to endorse him because of his Chicago ties, but that would mean they would have to ignore the right-wing talking point that Sen. Obama is the most liberal member of the Senate. To me it is another indication that he is slowly becoming the uniting figure that this country needs. I'm sure most will not see it that way, but I believe enough will on Nov. 4th.

  49. bad_dog (anonymous) says…

    "The popular Democratic talking points that paint McCain as the second coming of President Bush miss the mark. "- Marion's new hiphop friendGiven McCain's self-professed support of Bushco more than 90% of the time, it's difficult to ascertain exactly how "Democratic talking points" disproportionately "miss the mark".While McCain served this country well in many respects and should be honored for his military service, I am still left with questions about his judgment and temperament. How well was his judgment received when he chose Gov. Palin as his VP or when he suspended his campaign and threatened to boycott the debate during the financial crisis, merely to fly to D.C. and sit on his hands? Bi-partisan observers of both moves, both political and pundits, opined in equally critical disbelief. I won't additionally belabor McCain's questionable judgment or participation in the events leading up to the S & L crisis or during the early years of his naval career. From my perspective, McCain's emotional disposition is best illustrated by his demeanor during the Presidential debates. I also cannot disregard his multi-decade reputation for explosiveness. McCain's utter and complete lack of respect for Obama as the opposition candidate and the manner in which he has conducted his campaign speaks volumes with respect to his future governance of this country should he be elected. It also does not portend well for the manner in which he'd interact with certain world figures and/or the opposition. I fail to see how you can laud McCain's "diplomacy" when he sings "bomb, bomb, Iran" to his Congressional buddies. Again, his obvious disdain for Obama expressed both verbally and physically, as well as the conduct of his campaign raise serious questions about both his poise and statesmanship characteristics. As for judgment about Iraq, McCain supported the invasion-Obama did not. Despite the fact Obama was "just" an Illinois Senator, he was correct IMHO. I'm also reserving my judgment of McCain's "handling of the war" until U.S. troops have been out of the country for at least 6 months-assuming this occurs prior to my demise. I suspect once U.S. troops leave we'll witness the mother of all civil wars coupled with interference by and intrusion into another sovereign country's affairs from regional political and religious interests like Iran and al Qaeda. If this occurs, the nature and extent of the "success" of the surge will be moot, at best. For the sake of the region, their citizens and the future of the world, I hope I'm wrong.

  50. bad_dog (anonymous) says…

    "Marion writes:Thank you for biting, bad_dog; you have just clearly demonstrated that you are nothing but an internet spoiler and hater, depending on Ad Hominem attacks to get your jollies.The President to whom I referred was Abraham Lincoln.Try getting your kicks some other way, Sunhine!"I'm not sure what an "internet spoiler" is, but I didn't mean to hurt your feelings, Marion. It was just a nibble, not a full fledged bite. Next time I'll add ;-) after my comments.Please note, you didn't refer to electing a "president" in your noon post-rather you merely inquired about "electing a guy who didn't even go to high school" as if this were a somewhat sarcastic hypothetical question. BTW, the above was not an ad hominem attack as I merely indicated my potential support of you should you garner the requisite educational prerequisites.While Lincoln had only about 18 months of formal schooling (I don't believe "high schools" existed in the 1820's), he was an avid reader. As such, he taught himself the law and was admitted to the bar in Illinois. Thanks for the historical reminder of another great man from Illinois.Regards,Sunshine

  51. witchfindergeneral (anonymous) says…

    Despite BigPrune's assertions and alleged romantic history, this laughable excuse for a blog is racially insensitive, if not blatantly racist. I'm sure race played some part in Powell's endorsement, but Grand Wizard Prune refuses to see any other motivation besides race for his endorsement of Sen. Obama. Would Colin Powell endorse another politician of African descent--let's say Robert Mugabe--ONLY because he's black? Of course not. Gen. Powell's clearly stated his reasons for endorsing Obama and it's childish of the right-wingers to insist he's lying just cover up what they assume to be his primary motivation--race. Race-baiting isn't going to win John McCain the election, Prune.

  52. dumas (anonymous) says…

    "Let's all sit back and watch and see if the stock market tanks some more come Monday."Well, the bell has closed ... and stocks rallied today.http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/20/markets/markets_newyork/index.htm?postversion=2008102015

  53. monkeyspunk (anonymous) says…

    Let's see, Powell got railroaded into testifying in front of the UN with faulty evidence.When war was inevitable, his criticisms over Rumsfeld's "strategy" went unheard. Powell, along with McCain, were the most vocal critics of Rumsfeld's plan of attack.This isn't about race, this is about not supporting a party that used his outstanding popularity to further their own goals, and then refused to listen to him on an issue he was an expert in. How do you NOT listen to the general who kicked the crap out of the 8th largest army in the world, when you plan on invading their nation?I would wager that Powell probably really likes McCain, but doesn't want to support the party. And good for him. Powell's endorsement of Obama only solidifies my vote for Barry. All of this bashing of Powell is really leaving a nasty taste in my mouth in regards to the GOP. So it's OK to bash Colin, but not Petraeus? Fools, we are blessed with some of the best military minds on the planet, minds that will ensure American military dominance for decades to come as long as our elected leaders utilize them properly. Colin Powell for Secretary of Defense 2008!

  54. bad_dog (anonymous) says…

    Some interesting points on Powell's endorsement:http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/americandebate/Colin_Powells_symbolic_power.html

  55. kidicarus (anonymous) says…

    Yeah I bet Marion. If he would have endorsed McCain you'd be talking about what a brilliant, objective guy he is. He didn't, and you choose to act like a 3-year old. Some intellect you have.

  56. beatrice (anonymous) says…

    And here we have the depth of Marion's humanity, once again demonizing half the voting public because they don't see the world exactly as he does. Another of LJWorld's amazing brain trust of bloggers. BP, just because you have dated people of color doesn't prove you aren't a racist. Just because you date women, would that mean you couldn't be sexist?

  57. bad_dog (anonymous) says…

    "I have always known that he was nothing but a Stealth DemonRat."Sounds remarkably like an "internet spoiler and hater." Too bad you didn't work in Bushco's administration-you could have pointed him out earlier ;-)

  58. sfjayhawk (anonymous) says…

    BigPrune says"Let's all sit back and watch and see if the stock market tanks some more come Monday."

  59. jonas_opines (anonymous) says…

    "BP, just because you have dated people of color doesn't prove you aren't a racist. Just because you date women, would that mean you couldn't be sexist?"Ooh, I'm gonna have to remember that one!

  60. BABBOY (anonymous) says…

    Stock market closed with the Dow 400 points up.Add the phrase stupid and wrong to my label of racist to you prune. Maybe moron applies as well.

  61. Mixolydian (anonymous) says…

    Colin Powell is an honorable man and I take him at his word that his endorsement was a thoughtful, reflective choice. I've always thought that Powell should have been president in 2000. How different this country would have been with Dole in 96 and Powell 2000-2008. I don't happen to agree with his endorsement, but I haven't lost one iota of respect for the man.

  62. witchfindergeneral (anonymous) says…

    Tom, the flaw in your reason comes about when you equate the former (read: old news) Secretaries' of State and general's political influence with that of Gen. Powell's. Powell's endorsement is bigger news because he's a high-ranking Republican and former Bushie. How many of the generals and Secretaries who have endorsed McCain are Democrats? As for the second part of your query...Tom Shewmon says...."...deceptive liberal media...""...Obama worshippers..."You indeed are a right-nut and your desperation is palpable. No one seriously "worships" Sen. Obama and the old "liberal media" conspiracy crap is a major symptom of conservative delusion. Marion, Colin Powell is a moderate conservative. Why would Bush appoint a liberal to his cabinet?

  63. bad_dog (anonymous) says…

    Don't forget to mention Rudy Giuliani, "America's Mayor" will also be there Marion...

  64. bad_dog (anonymous) says…

    Marion, feel free to rant all you want. It doesn't and won't change a thing. One of your primary heroes as well as the RNC's, i.e. Rudy G-he of multiple extra-marital affairs and marriages is also there as a highlighted speaker. You are so far gone the only thing left is to have some fun with your inanity.If you have a problem with Colin Powell's, Bill Self's or Tony Gonzalez's participation, why don't you take it up with them? Put that "law enforcement" background to work along with your righteous indignation and moral high ground and get it on in the name of goodness. Better yet, call the RNC and whine to them. You can have a good cry together about how no one takes you seriously anymore.As numerous other posters have observed, had Powell endorsed McCain, you would be lauding the fact a black man had seen through Obama and did what was best for this country, despite his racial affiliation.C'mon, Marion-have another of your "adult beverages" and loosen up a little. Your only at the first step of the grieving process-AKA "denial". Save some energy for step two-"anger".

  65. bad_dog (anonymous) says…

    PS-shouldn't you be working on that homework assignment for your GED?;-)Sincerely,Sunshine

  66. bad_dog (anonymous) says…

    I never realized how dangerous Dr. Schuller was Marion.Here's some info for everyone-spread the word!!"Arguably, Dr Robert Schuller is the most dangerous leader within the Western Christian World. He reaches into the homes of millions with his TV programme, tapes, books and radio programmes.His 'self-esteem' gospel is not the gospel of Jesus Christ, but it has a seductive power with its emphasis on salvation by feeling good about ones self through the power of positive thinking. Schuller's saviour is his good friend and mentor, Norman Vincent Peale from whom he inherited his power of positive thinking teachings."http://www.truthwatch.info/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=116Imagine that, feeling good about one's self right here in the land of free speech, religion and thought-dangerous man indeed.Do you have anything about Dr. Schuller from WorldNetDaily???

  67. BigPrune (anonymous) says…

    I just had to mess with you, didn't I?

  68. Pay_N_My_Way (anonymous) says…

    This should give all you Obama fans a warm fuzy. Now Al-Jazeera is endorsing Obama. Way to go America!http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/Al_Jazeera_Obama/2008/10/21/142620.html?s=al&promo_code=6DC3-1

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