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Freedom Of Speech, in Lawrence?
I would never think about flipping off someone with an Obama bumper sticker. I would never steal or damage their Obama yard sign either. I might see one of "them" in their junky old car blowing blue smoke with the Mother Earth and multi-colored Central American dictatorish portrait of Obama bumper stickers. I might notice the couple with wirey gray hair as they motor around in their Volvo station wagon or Subaru Justy, full of dogs - obviously childless by choice. To each his or her own I always say, but I just don't have the hatred in me to flip them off because of their beliefs. I wouldn't even think about it. I don't have it in me to kick over the Obama "Presidential Seal" biodegradable yard sign either. In this community of tolerance, isn't it ironic that someone has done it to my McCain yard sign and downtown someone ripped off my McCain bumper sticker?
As a social experiment, put a McCain/Palin bumper sticker on your car and see the hatred in your fellow Lawrencians' eyes - or finger. Just make sure you park in the garage at night so you don't get your car keyed or worse.
Is it necessary to risk damage to property just because I support someone running for office? I'm going to take that chance, again. Do conservatives have to live in fear of the "enlightened ones" in this town?
Obviously so.
Now I realize why quality people shy away from running for local office. It's the intimidation factor by the "peace loving" left.
13 October 2008
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TheSychophant (Anonymous) says…
You write very well for a fifth grader.
13 October 2008
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tunahelper (Anonymous) says…
speech is only free in larrytown if you are a leftist liberal. Lawrence, the home of nuts and fruits.
13 October 2008
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Informed (Anonymous) says…
How true your words are, BigPrune. I go bumper sticker-less in this town just because of its intolerance. I find it interesting that Lawrence tries to portray itself as tolerant and enlightened, yet is so extremely intolerant and bigoted when it comes to anyone holding strong Judeo-Christian or conservative viewpoints. And in the 30 years that I've lived here, this town has grown even more intolerant.
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DonQuipunch (Anonymous) says…
Well said, Prune. I agree 100%.
13 October 2008
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snap_pop_no_crackle (Anonymous) says…
Watch out for the “truth” squads.
13 October 2008
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kansas778 (Anonymous) says…
The best joke to play on your liberal buddies is to put a pro-gun bumper sticker on their car and see how long they go before they notice.
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kuhusker (Anonymous) says…
If you put a McCain-Palin sticker on your car, I hear they will let you park in those special, close-by spots by most major businesses.
13 October 2008
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kidicarus (Anonymous) says…
“I might see one of “them” in their junky old car blowing blue smoke with the Mother Earth and multi-colored Central American dictatorish portrait of Obama bumper stickers. I might notice the couple with wirey gray hair as they motor around in their Volvo station wagon or Subaru Justy, full of dogs - obviously childless by choice. To each his or her own I always say”
Yes, you are obviously above the fray. Please try to improve your writing skills.
13 October 2008
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duplenty (Anonymous) says…
Um, as you “pretend Patriots” often put it, if it's so very awful here, you are aware that you can leave, right?
It's a very short drive to Olathe, where mediocrity and small-mindedness are encouraged….
13 October 2008
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SMe (Anonymous) says…
BigPrune hit the nail on the head with this one!
You want proof? Take a look at the childish, asinine comments by the detractors.
13 October 2008
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Jingal (Anonymous) says…
Ouch. I think you just touched a nerve.
13 October 2008
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cthulhu_4_president (Anonymous) says…
What a sad little tantrum from someone who is obviously too bitter, self-centered, and eager to stereotype to make a positive impact on the political world. I'm sure there's a thousand arguments that sound identical for people who have put an Obama sticker on their car and headed anywhere else in KS! This is a nice, big, red state. Go somewher (anywhere!) else if you don't like it.
13 October 2008
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blue73harley (Anonymous) says…
What the Prune said is true, like the message or not.
I dare anyone who doubts this to put a McCain sticker on their car…that is if you can find one in Larryville!!
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Esq2eB (Anonymous) says…
“Um, as you “pretend Patriots” often put it, if it's so very awful here, you are aware that you can leave, right?”
Ahh, an enlightened comment from the party of Kennedy. Why can't you all just be more open minded like the rest of Kansas. My neighbor has an Obama sign up and the other neighbor has a McCain sign up. I have a vote “No On Question 1” sign up and my neighbor has a “Vote Yes On Question 1”. All 4 signs have remained up for weeks. But then again, the population of Johnson county tends to be a little more intelligent and enlightened than the hillbilly's and hippies of DG county. Come drive through Mission Hills sometime and see all the different signs up. It's is nice to see that people with diverse ideas and political leanings can all live together. Of course, we have better things to do than rip bumper stickers off each others cars.
And FYI, there is not much of a difference between Olathe and Lawrence. Same cookie cutter houese being thrown up with strip malls and Wal-Marts being the focus of commercial development. The only difference is Olathe has jobs to offer. Just ask all the Lawrence residents driving up K-10 every day to go to work.
I don't live in Lawrence or Olathe, but I always find it funny when Lawrence residents bag on Olathe.
13 October 2008
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absolutelyridiculous (Anonymous) says…
What no name calling yet? BigPrune…you are so right on. For as “enlightened” as the liberal democrats are here, they sure treat their conservative fellow tax payers horribly. Who's paying for all their social programs anyway? I guess it's easier to go get your job at the university and go hide up intelectualizing about how the world SHOULD be instead of going out and DOING something about it.
Let the name-calling begin.
13 October 2008
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verity (Anonymous) says…
My neighbor's Obama for President sign was defaced and mine was stolen.
I suppose those horrible libruls did that also.
13 October 2008
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cthulhu_4_president (Anonymous) says…
Isn't that how this blog started absolutelyridiculous? By someone whining (sorry, I mean “intelectualizing”) about how the world should be instead of doing something about it?
13 October 2008
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logicsound04 (Anonymous) says…
“I would never think about flipping off someone with an Obama bumper sticker.” - BigPrune
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No, you would much rather publish a blog stereotyping and demonizing all liberals as behaving a certain way, while pretending as if there aren't conservatives who do the exact same irresponsible things about which you are talking.
Judging all people of a certain political persuasion is stupid no matter which side you are judging. There are liberals AND conservatives who do childish things like steal yard signs and write prejudicial blogs.
Kudos for being the bigger person.
13 October 2008
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…
Try letting your friends and family know you are now a Republican instead of a Democrat. People I have known and who have supported me emotionally through every possible experience known to human kind have ignored me, told me I am stupid, etc., etc., now that I am for McCain. No one, excepting the aunt who orginally took me to sign up as a Democrat at age 18, has even bothered to ask me why. I have been surprised and dissappointed.
Hope you get your McCain items back, BigPrune! I just bought a deck of Republican playing cards that have McCain as one of the Presidents - I figure either way it goes, this will be a cool collectors item.
I am sorry that there are people of either political leaning that act immature. It is about them and not about our politicians or an individual party.
13 October 2008
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Jingal (Anonymous) says…
Thought for the day:
“…it lies within the power as well as the duty of all of us to recognize not only the possibility that we might be wrong, but the virtual certainty that on some occasion we are bound to be. The fact that this is so does not absolve us from the duty of having views and putting them forward. But it does make it incumbent upon us to recognize the element of doubt that still surrounds the correctness of these views. And if we do that, we will not be able to lose ourselves in the transports of moral indignation against those who are of opposite opinion and who follow a different line. We will put our views forward with a prayer of forgiveness for the event that we prove to be mistaken.”
13 October 2008
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blue73harley (Anonymous) says…
Ronda - I also know that people who previously liked your blogs turned amazingly bitter just because of your choice of presidential candidate. Seems to me that the sheer hatred that some feel toward Bush is being directed toward McCain and those that support him.
13 October 2008
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Bowhunter99 (Anonymous) says…
Just remember that you will be labeled here in Larryville as a racist if you do not vote for Nobama…..
13 October 2008
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kuhusker (Anonymous) says…
I am curious Ronda. Why would someone who has been a Democrat for a while support McCain now, especially after everything that has happened the past 6 weeks?
13 October 2008
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logicsound04 (Anonymous) says…
Ronda,
I personally could care less whether you identify as Democrat or Republican. I think both parties have shortcomings that make it hard for me to identify with either one. I tend to side with candidates, not parties.
Now, on the basis that candidates, not parties, are who people should support, I am baffled by the fact that you switched from being a Clinton supporter to being a McCain supporter. Obama and Clinton are far closer ideologically than McCain and Clinton.
It makes it hard not to think that your support has nothing to do with the issues involved, but instead some other, as yet unnamed component.
13 October 2008
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duplenty (Anonymous) says…
“Ahh, an enlightened comment from the party of Kennedy.”
Reading comprehension is key, here, esq. I didn't say “love it or leave it”, I pointed out that you on the rightward end of the political spectrum often pull out that canard when someone makes a critical statement about the country or the GOP. Prune hates it so much here because of the “intolerant left”, but he's chosen to live here for over 30 years? Uh huh.
And Lawrence and Olathe are nothing alike, although there are certainly those who continue to try and make Lawrence more like Olathe every day…
I have friends, peers and family that are die-hard republicans…and guess what? We have civilized conversations about politics all the time! Shock and awe!!
BTW, Ronda - I can say personally that I don't dislike your blog because you're a republican, I dislike it because your arguments are exceedingly weak, and intellectually dishonest.
13 October 2008
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madmike (Anonymous) says…
I love the “all inclusive” attitude of those telling anyone that they disagree with to leave Larryville. I have a better idea, why don't you guys move to a more liberal and enlightened state since you hate the rest of Kansas and the midwest so much? I try to avoid being in Larryville any more than I have to, but I do have a McCain sticker on my car, and so far, no one has bothered me over it.
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invictus (Anonymous) says…
I started a policy of flipping off every person with a “Kansas: A bigoted as you think” bumper sticker. So I guess it goes both ways. I am not surprised people mess with McCain bumper stickers/yard signs when no one is around, most people are cowards. But I find it surprising that you would get the bird. Giving the middle finger is an invitation to fight. Don't let people get away with that, follow them and give them the back of your hand. You have grown up in a sheltered environment indeed if you think you can randomly insult people and not risk a beat down.
13 October 2008
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snap_pop_no_crackle (Anonymous) says…
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/…
13 October 2008
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tanaumaga (Anonymous) says…
I want to inherit money and live in Mission Hills and become enlightened. I'm so tired of my hillbilly and hippie ways. Will you take me back to your sanctuary after one of the football or basketball games? Your my only hope.
13 October 2008
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tanaumaga (Anonymous) says…
Esq2eB,
I've worked in your neighborhood for several years doing high dollar renovations for people like you, and I didn't run into many people who treated me with much respect after seeing the douglas county tags. Beautiful neighborhood, ugly neighbors.
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kuhusker (Anonymous) says…
“I started a policy of flipping off every person with a “Kansas: A bigoted as you think” bumper sticker…..Giving the middle finger is an invitation to fight.”
So what you are saying is you go around trying to pick fights with strangers because of their bumper stickers?
13 October 2008
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kuhusker (Anonymous) says…
I used to admire McCain (even as someone who normally votes Democrat), but the two main reasons I can't support him are because of the Palin decision (I worry about her becoming President due to McCain's old age) and the economy…right now we need calm, and McCain has been very jumpy the past few weeks, not seeming to know what he is doing, while Obama has remained cool and collected.
13 October 2008
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verity (Anonymous) says…
Yes, the person/people who stole my Obama sign were cowards. They did it while I was gone for the weekend.
It all goes both ways.
13 October 2008
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invictus (Anonymous) says…
Since the bumper sticker insults every person from Kansas effectively they are picking a fight, giving the bird to everyone. Anyone with this bumper sticker should consider themselves fortunate they only get a middle finger right back at them. But if they feel that strongly about it, we could pull over and work in out.
13 October 2008
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kuhusker (Anonymous) says…
OK, so you do have an eagerness to start fights with strangers over their bumper stickers. That is a very mature and adult way of dealing with things. Our country would be much better off if all of us beat down those we disagree with instead of merely debating with “words.” Successful nations like Somalia and Lebanon prove that fighting always works better then debating.
13 October 2008
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bad_dog (Anonymous) says…
” started a policy of flipping off every person with a “Kansas: A bigoted as you think” bumper sticker.”-invictus
Nice to see you still support the 1st amendment. Your finger must be getting tired.
You couldn't possibly support the premise of the bumper sticker anymore than by your actions. Perhaps you'll find someone to take you up on your own advice for reconciling such differences.
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autie (Anonymous) says…
Let me get this square in my mind. Invictus, are you advocating the use of physical violence if someone has a different view than your yours? Give them the back of your hand? Would you just go ahead and shoot them as well for having a bumper sticker you didn't like? How far would one escalate the situation to make their point?
kuhusker, I don't think he knows what he is saying. Maybe he will explain further with a more cohesive sentences or two.
13 October 2008
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kuhusker (Anonymous) says…
“Given that Palin has far more experience than Obama, how can you justify a vote for Obama?”
I didn't know anything about Palin before she was announced, and I really researched and tried to learn about her, and in my opinion, she doesn't have any relevant experience to be a President. She'll be fine as VP (they just go to funerals of foreign diplomats) but I just don't think she has the ability to actually sit in the Oval Office. She basically just “one of the folks- which is kind of interesting in a way, but not good to (potentially) be a President — things are so complex with the economy and everything, it's just not a job for regular people (if it ever was)
13 October 2008
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…
invictus (Anonymous) says:
Since the bumper sticker insults every person from Kansas effectively they are picking a fight, giving the bird to everyone. Anyone with this bumper sticker should consider themselves fortunate they only get a middle finger right back at them. But if they feel that strongly about it, we could pull over and work in out.”
Marion writes:
Spoken like a true liberal!
pseudoliberalneosocialist.com
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jd (Anonymous) says…
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/…
13 October 2008
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invictus (Anonymous) says…
We are not talking about bumper stickers here, we talking about insulting people at random, something I would never do. The question is what do you do when you are going about your business and are insulted for no reason? I throw an insult right back. You may deal with things in a different way. I don't really care. I don't pick fights with anyone; however I recognize that flipping people off may result in a physical confrontation.
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kuhusker (Anonymous) says…
A bumper sticker isn't the same as a verbal insult.
If someone call you directly to your face an a-hole, yeah, take offense. If someone has a bumper sticker you don't like, well, if you are an adult, you ignore it, or maybe get one for your own car that has your own opinion.
13 October 2008
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mom_of_three (Anonymous) says…
My family is life long Republicans, and they were very shocked, dismayed, etc. that I even liked Obama, so it goes both ways as far as politics go. My long time Republican loving Air Force major cousin has switched to Democrat. That tells me a lot right there.
(and if Palin is elected, is she going to let her husband have a desk in her office, as he did in Alaska?)
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bad_dog (Anonymous) says…
“Given that Palin has far more experience than Obama, how can you justify a vote for Obama?”
I had to take a minute or two to stop laughing over that one. Despite it's relative senior status in the world of political BS, it's still a classic. While Palin may have a couple of years more time in the political saddle, it doesn't magically convert into anything credible and you know it. Prior to her nomination as McCain's VP, she had all of 20 months of “executive experience” as governor of Alaska. Mayor of Wasilla? I'm not even going to address that foolishness as “executive experience”, sufficient to prepare her to lead this country. It's just ludicrous. You aren't going to convince anyone not already in your camp with that “argument”.
We now know she and her hubby spent a considerable amount of time during her gubernatorial “executive experience” chasing personal (or perhaps I should say personnel?) vendettas/agendas.
“Also, Obama is African-American, smokes cigarettes, and has a history of cancer in his family. All three of those factors reduce the odds of him living a long life. What happens if he dies in office? I don't believe too many people would have confidence in the Chia Pet as president.”
He has a history of cancer in his Mother. Both McCain's father and grandfather died of heart attacks at an age younger than Sen. McCain. Statistically speaking, that's much more significant from an actuarial perspective than Obama's family history.
I think you're more bothered by factor one you listed above than his family health history or whether he still smokes. Just my opinion, I could be wrong…
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invictus (Anonymous) says…
Ku husker I imagine there is a bumber sticker out there you would find so insulting that you would “flip the bird.” You must care about something??
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kidicarus (Anonymous) says…
“invictus (Anonymous) says:
I started a policy of flipping off every person with a “Kansas: A bigoted as you think” bumper sticker. So I guess it goes both ways. I am not surprised people mess with McCain bumper stickers/yard signs when no one is around, most people are cowards. But I find it surprising that you would get the bird. Giving the middle finger is an invitation to fight. Don't let people get away with that, follow them and give them the back of your hand. You have grown up in a sheltered environment indeed if you think you can randomly insult people and not risk a beat down.”
You are so tough. I wish I could be as tough as you. A true maverick. Have fun in jail when you do finally give someone the “back of your hand”. Physical violence is way cool and def the way to handle situations.
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kuhusker (Anonymous) says…
“Ku husker I imagine there is a bumber sticker out there you would find so insulting that you would “flip the bird.” You must care about something??”
Dude, there's a lot of stuff I would get super insulted by…Like those mizzou fans with their picture of Lawrence burning and the shirt that says “scoreboard” — but I wouldn't start a fight with them, or flip them the bird…maybe yell “Orange Bowl” but thats about it.
I'd debate anyone, but I'm not gonna start a fight with someone over their words…not unless they attack (physically) is a fight ever warranted.
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camper (Anonymous) says…
I'm gonna a try a social experiment by putting a McCain sticker on the right side of my bumper, and an O'bama sticker on the left. It be interesting to see the looks I get.
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blue73harley (Anonymous) says…
Awhile back, in the dark of the night, I stuck some Bush bumper stickers over some old Kerry bumper stickers on a friend's car.
Some time later, I found Kerry campaign signs in my front yard. I returned them…after using them for target practice with my 12 gauge.
We all had a good laugh.
Regardless of how this campaign turns out, it is indeed a memorable one. I don't understand the extreme attitudes on either side. I will probably vote for McCain but have no doubt that Obama is a smart, capable guy.
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the_chamber_grandjury (Anonymous) says…
touch my McCain sticker and your face will turn to hamburger……
Allah Akbar……..
13 October 2008
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compmd (Anonymous) says…
I've always considered myself a moderate, believing in certain ideas from both sides. I also enjoy screwing with the weak-minded. That having been said, I think I will put a McCain/Palin sticker on my Volvo station wagon and drive to the range (whilst sipping on an iced Brian's Fondue from Java Break, I love those) to go blow through a few mags in my large caliber assault rifle.
Your radical head asplode!
By the way, I actually do that…except for the McCain/Palin sticker, I don't want someone scratching my car.
13 October 2008
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Pywacket (Anonymous) says…
(maybeyouneedtoeatsome)BigPrune(s)~ since you haven't figured this out on your own, let me help you: there are idiotic, irresponsible fools on either side of the political spectrum, just as there are thoughtful, decent individuals on either side.
(One way to identify the idiotic, irresponsible fools: they will never acknowledge this fundamental truth and cling, instead, to the fairy tale that all “the good people” are politically aligned with them.)
While bemoaning your McCain yard sign and bumpersticker, have you ever picked up a paper and read about anyone lynching the man in effigy? No? Probably because it hasn't happened!! But someone did lynch Obama in effigy—on a college campus, no less! Maybe you should be glad that the brand of jerks Lawrence turns out aren't as extreme as those in other places.
You can be sure that plenty of Obama signs & stickers will be stolen or vandalized, if that makes you feel any better. Hey, why don't you turn the incident into an opportunity to do some interesting research? Scour the news and plot the location of all such incidents you can find. My hypothesis is that more McCain signs will be targeted in traditionally liberal areas and more Obama signs in conservative areas, but the net numbers will be pretty equal.
It's too bad that ALL vandals and thieves (not just of campaign materials) can't be caught and locked up together. And you can bet that, if they could be, there would be just as many from one side as the other. Maybe they'd beat each other to a pulp and we'd all be done with them.
13 October 2008
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camper (Anonymous) says…
Blue Harley said it good. It is good to see that he and his buddies can play some good-hearted pranks. I think most of us all have family members and friends who share different political beliefs. I recently went to a family reunion and it was interesting to see how differing political ideals clashed. I can never remember this before…the big differences in the day were the Sox and Cubs fans in our family. My best friend going back 20 years or so is on the opposite side and I am trying not to let it bother me. I can't wait for this election to get over.
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BrianR (Anonymous) says…
pseudoliberalneosocialist
So they're a neo-socialist but not a liberal. Perhaps they could be put into a home for the bewildered?
13 October 2008
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Disk2Legacy (Anonymous) says…
Thank you BigPrune for your courage. I think it is pretty sad when someone has to damage or violate someones property over political views.
13 October 2008
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logicsound04 (Anonymous) says…
Lieteller is creating a miniature black hole with the ferocity of his spin.
I am more and more amused by the hysterics of the people who are so fearful for Obama to be elected.
13 October 2008
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bad_dog (Anonymous) says…
“Perhaps I should have said Palin has much more relevant experience than Obama. After all, she has no experience with unrepentant terrorists, political thugs in Kenya, a racist and anti-Semitic minister, a mobster like Tony Rezko, or with facing Mecca while worshipping.”
Nice refutation “truthteller”. Extra credit points for your Palinesque use of “terrorists”. Who else can you credibly cite to justify your use of “terrorist(s)?
While I don't necessarily believe Ayers' comments display “repentance” in a manner sufficient to satisfy you, he has expressed regrets in this letter to the editor:
http://billayers.wordpress.com/2008/0…
What about Palin's close association with Mark Chryson, et al, who espouse Alaska's secession?
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/200…
While Palin's pastor Muthee may not qualify as a “thug”, per se, he is a witch hunting extremist from Kenya. That's the preacher I want in my pulpit on Sunday fer sure. Hopefully he can pray away the boogie men under my bed too.
http://www.alternet.org/election08/99…
Your “point” about Rezko lacks merit unless something arises more unethically compelling than helping purchase a piece of property the Obamas could not afford in its entirety.
Likewise for the BS about Obama facing east. Even if it was true, being Muslim (which he is not) isn't criminal in a country founded on the principal of freedom of religion-at the last time I checked. In fact IMHO this lust for religious/governmental entanglement is one of the primary things wrong with this country.
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bad_dog (Anonymous) says…
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Unless you can cite something perinent about the health risks of being African-American (eg a greater propensity for HTN or diabetes than an Anglo-Saxon, or a remote likelyhood of sickle cell anemia) what's your point? That's your weak attempt to play the race card, not mine. You just threw it out without substantiating your statement and ignore the fact he's half white. As such, whatever genetic propensities/risk factors that might attach to a black person may not even be present in his genetic makeup. Nevermind that, let's just keep throwing non-issue related crap out-it's bound to stick. Perhaps we should just rule out African-American candidates for elected office out of your benevolent concern for their health.
I suggest you would be better served to listen to the words your candidate spoke just last week:
“I have to tell you. Sen. Obama is a decent person and a person you don't have to be scared of as president of the United States,” “He's a decent family man [and] citizen that I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues and that's what this campaign's all about. He's not [an Arab].”
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/…
Let the forum know if/when you want to discuss “fundamental issues”. Somehow I doubt that occurs anytime soon.
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autie (Anonymous) says…
logicsound04, that is not spin. It is a severe twisting of half truths that are woven into a tapestry of deception..or lies.
Psuedoliberalneosocialist….I think I'll go home tonight and have a couple of scotchs and see if I can say that three times real fast…
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BrianR (Anonymous) says…
autie (Anonymous) says:
“Psuedoliberalneosocialist:.I think I'll go home tonight and have a couple of scotchs and see if I can say that three times real fast:”
Do sit down first.
13 October 2008
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…
There's no concession of defeat which whines as loudly as a dramatic swing from the *offensive* to the defensive… nay, to outright victimization!
I'm calling shenanigans. Prune defaced his own McCain paraphernalia.
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camper (Anonymous) says…
Lawrence is intolerant to be sure. Just the other day I was walking down the street and I heard four occupants of a car yell to me faggot. I instantly chuckled at the wrong assertion, but soon found myself engulfed by rage. I began to run after the car. I'm tellin you if I caught up with them all five of us would have either been in jail or the hospital.
13 October 2008
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…
BrianR (Anonymous) says:
autie (Anonymous) says:
“Psuedoliberalneosocialist:.I think I'll go home tonight and have a couple of scotchs and see if I can say that three times real fast:”
Do sit down first.”
Marion writes:
Pending updates in the forum software rivercitytalk is more or less “under construction”.
I won't post a direct link but all you pseudoliberalneosocialists know where to go!
As it were.
Enjoy!
heh, heh
13 October 2008
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the_chamber_grandjury (Anonymous) says…
buck ofama
13 October 2008
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snap_pop_no_crackle (Anonymous) says…
Making another stab at reviving the stinking pit of a “forum”, bub?
13 October 2008
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…
snap_pop_no_crackle (Anonymous) says:
Making another stab at reviving the stinking pit of a “forum”, bub?'
Marion writes:
Who you callin' “Bub”, bub?
13 October 2008
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snap_pop_no_crackle (Anonymous) says…
I thought that was the sobiquet least likely to send you running to the cops crying “libel”, bub.
13 October 2008
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Mr_Nancy_Boy_To_You (Tom Shewmon) says…
“As a social experiment, put a McCain/Palin bumper sticker on your car and see the hatred in your fellow Lawrencians' eyes - or finger.” -BigPrune
No thanks; I'm afraid what would happen if I caught them in the act. BigPrune, you've kept your chin up and stuck to your beliefs. I'm sorry these peace loving anti-McCain persons did this to you. You have been contributing wonderfully to the forum with your blogs. Thanks.
This is all crazy. This is a little long story, but this past weekend I feel I meant a typical far-left LJW user. I was at my nephews wedding in St. Louis and sitting with a friend of mine who is a dentist–a very successful dentist. This young man, shaved head, tats, piercings, drunk off his arse, started to butt in, uninvited to our table (you had to smoke outside) and he sat down and started blowing smoke in our faces. We were just talking and he started in on Obama. We let him talk. We asked, whenever we could get a word in, what he knew about Obama. You know what? He knew absolutely nothing about Obama. Jeremy, my dentist friend, tried to explain the beginnings of Obama's political career…..that the liberal machinations of Chicago got things juggled so Obama ran virtually unopposed. He went on to tell this sad soul that he started out making $15k a year 20 years ago and did not get specific (I know he makes around $800K now) and told this misguided young man (around 25 guessing) that he doesn't appreciate Obama brazenly stating he will take more of his money and give it to poor people. He told this pathetic young man that why should he work six days a week, 10 hours a day for 20 years, get wealthy, and have Obama just indiscriminately take more of his money. This sad invidual could not produce an argument, other than he went to Africa to build houses for poor people. Which was probably a BS story. We dismissed ourselves and went and got another drink.
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temperance (Anonymous) says…
Shorter BigPrune: [sounds of a crying 2 year old] “Whaaa! Whaaa! Call the waaambulance! The liberals are being mean!”
Seriously, this is such a boring blog post; sign stealing and obscene gestures occur during every presidential election season. Get another sign, ignore that middle finger, and grow up already. Perhaps, with their side getting crushed in the polls, this is all they have left to talk about?
13 October 2008
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…
snap_pop_no_crackle (Anonymous) says:
I thought that was the sobiquet least likely to send you running to the cops crying “libel”, bub.”
Marion writes:
Sometimes you really crack me up!
Bub.
:)
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BigPrune (Anonymous) says…
I have had various Republican paraphernalia destroyed or stolen over the past 4 presidential elections. The leftist intolerance runs long and deep…..
Too bad for such a City that claims to be “open minded” and diverse. More close minded than most.
13 October 2008
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Donnuts (Anonymous) says…
Freedom of speech in Lawrence? Is this article a joke? Was this meant to be a joke? I thought I was going to read a real article.
13 October 2008
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Mr_Nancy_Boy_To_You (Tom Shewmon) says…
BigPrune, an angry little child is only thinking about his or herself. This is as simple an analogy as one needs to describe the hard left who swarm Lawrence. It's not a kind sentence for anyone. Take it easy on them, please.
13 October 2008
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…
Shenanigans.
13 October 2008
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madmike (Anonymous) says…
The losers that destroy political signs are probably less than one percent of the people living in Larryville. There was once a time in this country, that we could agree to dissagree. Apparently those days are long gone.
13 October 2008
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manus_flexibilis (Anonymous) says…
Are the qliques throwing word “arrows” back and forth in this article, can I play?
13 October 2008
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Defender (Anonymous) says…
Hey madmike, guess what? We actually agree on a second thing in this world. I miss being able to agree to disagree, it is truly what made America as great as it is. Unfortunately we also agree on your other point, that those days are long gone. (guess that makes a second and a third thing….)
13 October 2008
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boltzmann (Anonymous) says…
Big Prune, Maybe you should stop whining and be more proactive, like this guy….
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/best…
13 October 2008
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BigPrune (Anonymous) says…
Do you seriously think I'd want the publicity in THIS town? I have a family to protect.
Of course stealing or smashing isn't as bad as the arson committed on this guy's McCain sign in Portland.
http://www.thebeenews.com/news/story….
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saoirseglen (Anonymous) says…
Is there freedom of speech in Lawrence? Yes there is. Is there tolerance for different points of view? Not really, no. While the mindset in Lawrence tends to be toward the highly Liberal/Socialist side of thinking, there are a few highly conservative souls here who are equally intolerant.
What I find interesting is that as intolerant of more conservative,