Muslim Religious Leader Declares Obama "The Messiah"

Posted by Bigprune October 10, 2008 at 1:19 p.m.

Muslim Religious Leader Declares Obama "The Messiah"

"You are the instruments that God is going to use to bring about universal change, and that is why Barack has captured the youth. And he has involved young people in a political process that they didn't care anything about. That's a sign. When the Messiah speaks, the youth will hear, and the Messiah is absolutely speaking." -Louis FarrakhanCheck out this video of Louis Farrakhan calling Obama "The Messiah"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB-_qUHe3HU

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BigPrune (anonymous) says…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB-_qU...
October 10, 2008 at 1:20 p.m.
cait48 (anonymous) says…

And Fred Phelps says God hates fags. Both statements have about as much political relevance as a bag of donuts. But watch the Chicken Littles flock to it.
October 10, 2008 at 1:43 p.m.
BigPrune (anonymous) says…

Hopefully McCain will ask Obama the question during the next debate. "The religious leader of the Nation of Islam has declared you sir to be the Messiah. Are you the Messiah?":) I like how it is the Nation of Islam leader - kind of goes with the Obama is a Muslim claim some people have made.
October 10, 2008 at 1:54 p.m.
Logan72 (Alia Ahmed) says…

BP,According to Wikipedia as well some exposure I've had to the Quran, Muslims believe Jesus is the Messiah and that he will come to defeat the Antichrist in end times. So, you nutjobs really have to decide, is Obama the Messiah or the Antichrist? I guess you're just talking out of both sides of your mouth, unless you think that Jesus and the Antichrist are one in the same. Surely not, that sounds down right blasephemous. I am an Obama supporter, but don't think he's the Messiah or the Antichrist. I think he is a better choice than McCain for many concrete reasons, including his middle class tax cut proposal and his plan to get us out of Iraq and go after the real terrorists who actually perpetrated 9/11. I know it's the Republicans who are suppose to portray Obama as too risky, but I sure don't want Mr. Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran to take that 3:00 am phone call. He's pretty cranky during the day, I can imagine how irrational and ddiscombogulated he'd be if woken from a deep sleep. Watch the video in the second link to see what fellow Republicans and others are saying about his rage.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messiahhttp://bravenewpac.org/rage/
October 10, 2008 at 2:51 p.m.
Satirical (anonymous) says…

Is anyone surprised by this?
October 10, 2008 at 2:56 p.m.
arizonajh (anonymous) says…

Big Prune writes a piece and is the first (or second depending how you look it) to comment and as of now is half of the responses. He probably is his own best audiance because so few can figure out exactly what his point is.
October 10, 2008 at 3:03 p.m.
TopJayhawk (anonymous) says…

I thought it was the "hidden Imam" who was coming back.I thought they just thought of Jesus as a past proffit.
October 10, 2008 at 3:07 p.m.
ksdivakat (anonymous) says…

I told ya so!
October 10, 2008 at 3:30 p.m.
Logan72 (Alia Ahmed) says…

TopJayhawk,I've been under the impression that Muslims consider Jesus to be a phophet but that he will return at the end of the world and that he sits at the right hand of God. Let me know if that is not correct. I'm sure the Quran is open to many interpretations as is the Bible and Torah.
October 10, 2008 at 3:35 p.m.
geniusmannumber1 (anonymous) says…

I'm sorry...what's the point?
October 10, 2008 at 3:41 p.m.
tangential_reasoners_anonymous (anonymous) says…

Prune... you've been in the sun too long.
October 10, 2008 at 3:44 p.m.
Faka (anonymous) says…

Who listens to Louis Farrakhan anymore? If he were really supporting Obama, he would realize how much political backlash a statement like this could have. So he's either a McCain supporter, or an idiot.
October 10, 2008 at 4:06 p.m.
rodentgirl16 (anonymous) says…

TopJayhawk,The "Hidden Imam" is a Shia belief. As Alia said, in Islamic belief, Jesus is a prophet, and Muslims believe that he will return at the end of the world. Muhammed, who was a human being, will not.BP,Calling Louis Farrakhan a "Muslim religious leader" is like calling Fred Phelps a Christian religious leader. He no more represents the Christian faith than Louis Farrakhan represents the Islamic faith. In fact, I would be surprised if many non-American Muslims even know who he is, let alone consider him a religious leader. It is an interesting discussion though, because it seems like a strange statement for Farrakhan to make. I haven't watched the YouTube video, but is it because he believes Obama to be Jesus (the Messiah), since Obama is a Christian and Muslims believe that Jesus will come back on the Day of Judgement? Just a thought...
October 10, 2008 at 4:14 p.m.
budwhysir (anonymous) says…

Fred phelps, who is this man we speak of? As I understand he is a pastor at a church. Is there something I am missing. I havent been here long but I thought I was at least up to speed
October 10, 2008 at 4:20 p.m.
tangential_reasoners_anonymous (anonymous) says…

budwhysir: "Fred phelps, who is this man we speak of?"Shhhhhh! ( the one of whom we do not speak! )
October 10, 2008 at 4:27 p.m.
TheYetiSpeaks (anonymous) says…

Alia Ahmed (Alia Ahmed) says:"....his plan to get us out of Iraq and go after the real terrorists..."Here's the problem with that plan, Alia. Regardless of whether you think it was right of us to go into Iraq, we now have to stay. Barack himself gave the reason why: Iraq has a 79 billion dollar surplus. Some time ago we helped the Afghans purge the Russians from their country. We then left Afghanistan in a cloud of dust. We did not help them rebuild. We did not have a continued presence to solidify the infrastructure, which allowed a terrorist group now known as the Taliban to take over the country. If we leave Iraq now, I believe the same fate awaits them. Afghanistan was a very poor country. Iraq has a surplus. So my question to you Alia (and Barack) is: How many suitcase nukes does 79 billion dollars buy?Also, I believe that politicians and most Americans have this wrong. Killing Osama and top ranking terrorists wont win this war. In fact I could make a pretty strong case that killing Bin Laden would only strengthen Al Quaeda. To win the "War on Terrorism" we must win hearts and minds.
October 10, 2008 at 4:32 p.m.
tangential_reasoners_anonymous (anonymous) says…

"Winning" this war won't win this war.
October 10, 2008 at 4:36 p.m.
americandreamrealty (anonymous) says…

the nation of islam is pseudo-muslim... shows your ignorance
October 10, 2008 at 4:49 p.m.
sfjayhawk (anonymous) says…

Did you hear, Colonel Sanders called McCain the messiah of gutter politics. must be true.
October 10, 2008 at 4:52 p.m.
americandreamrealty (anonymous) says…

True muslims see the idea that God would manifest himself in human form as heretical. Apparantly you don't understand the nature of God in islam: "No vision can grasp Him, but His grasp is over all vision. He is above all comprehension, yet is acquainted with all things." God cannot be incarnate in islam.
October 10, 2008 at 4:56 p.m.
jonas_opines (anonymous) says…

Satirical (Anonymous) says:"Is anyone surprised by this?"What, the original pointless and irrelevant topic, or the predictable and slightly hysterical response?Oh, wait, that doesn't matter at all, as the answer is the same both ways!No, not surprised.
October 10, 2008 at 6:14 p.m.
Logan72 (Alia Ahmed) says…

Yeti,I know you are right about what would happen if the US suddenly pulls out of Iraq, our military action has destabilized a large region and probably has created many more terrorists than we've killed. It truly is a can of worms.
October 10, 2008 at 6:18 p.m.
Mixolydian (anonymous) says…

*Yawn* This is a complete non-story. It's nothing but a bit of tit for tat.Obama's church last year gave Farrakhan the "Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. Trumpeter Award for Lifetime Achievement," calling the anti-semite "...a 20th and 21st century giant...truly epitomizes greatness." In return, Farrakhan calls Obama "The Messiah." What's the big deal? One compliment for another. So what if they like and respect each other?Move along, nothing to see here.
October 10, 2008 at 6:35 p.m.
manplanner (anonymous) says…

I have decided that Tom Shewmon is my Messiah.
October 10, 2008 at 7:02 p.m.
manplanner (anonymous) says…

All hail Tom Shewmon!
October 10, 2008 at 7:16 p.m.
tangential_reasoners_anonymous (anonymous) says…

Vindictive.
October 10, 2008 at 8:05 p.m.
RogueThrill (anonymous) says…

Tom, you need to read some news. It looks like McCain is calling the dogs off and standing against the bigotry.At least now he can lose with some dignity.
October 10, 2008 at 8:17 p.m.
tangential_reasoners_anonymous (anonymous) says…

Tom: "I hope McCain rips... one next week.... Some opening "words of wisdom" regarding an old guy letting one "rip"...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91MfdqM3gaQ... with a closing note for TomTom.
October 10, 2008 at 8:36 p.m.
bad_dog (anonymous) says…

"Win or lose, the Obamination is screwed."-MarionDo you still think that now the Palin abuse of power report was just released? That's a real scandal in the waiting-well not so much waiting any longer, I guess."I hope McCain rips Obama a new one next week and exposes him once and for all. Enough is enough with this loathsome, terrorists sympathizing, elite liberal, socialist fraud."-TSWhew, that's a bit of a McCain-like rant.Don't you think McCain would have already ripped Obama a "new one" if:a) he had some real dirt to discloseb) he had some substantive policies of his own to discuss c) he had the intellectual acumen to pull it offNo matter the outcome, rest assured Fox will characterize it as McCain-Palin's 4th debate victory.Keep hoping, you never know...
October 10, 2008 at 8:44 p.m.
BigPrune (anonymous) says…

How can people label me a racist? I'm just reporting the news.
October 10, 2008 at 8:56 p.m.
manplanner (anonymous) says…

Thanks Tom, er uh, The Messiah for those extra words of wisdom. Us followers will be sure to watch out for when McCain chooses to "rip" that socialist a new one! All hail Tom Shewmon!
October 10, 2008 at 9:05 p.m.
TacoBob (anonymous) says…

Louis is just jockeying for position if/when/after Obama is elected.
October 10, 2008 at 9:06 p.m.
Logan72 (Alia Ahmed) says…

BP,I didn't call you a racist, at least in this story. I disagree with some, okay most, of things you say, but certainly did not say you were a racist in this thread. In fact, I haven't ever called you a racist unless you have posted under a different name.
October 10, 2008 at 9:18 p.m.
jonas_opines (anonymous) says…

BigPrune (Anonymous) says: "How can people label me a racist? I'm just reporting (a) news."Fixed that for you. Less gramatically correct, more accurate. And it's your choice of fixation, I imagine, that makes people call you a racist, assuming they've done so (I haven't looked). Myself, I doubt that Obama's race has as much to do with it as the (D) behind his name, but then I haven't been paying that much attention to you in particular, so I might be in error.Cheers.
October 10, 2008 at 9:53 p.m.
pity2bu (anonymous) says…

This is one terrorist calling another terrorist, "messiah," imagine that!The world will know he is the all mighty and the all knower messiah when he hangs up his family tie and windsor knot for a multi color clip-on bow tie with polka-dots and half rim glasses.
October 10, 2008 at 9:56 p.m.
bearded_gnome (anonymous) says…

http://www2.ljworld.com/weblogs/beard... of the curve it was. and, I've recieved much positive response on this posting of mine. it is a good reply to LouieF's declaring Barry H. Obama the messiah. wish I could force Louie to read it!
October 10, 2008 at 10:02 p.m.
tangential_reasoners_anonymous (anonymous) says…

Tom: "I want a Sarah Palin type that kicks ass and takes names. Got it?!"Ah, Sarah Palin, the amazing self-kicking ass. Did anyone get her name?
October 10, 2008 at 10:12 p.m.
bad_dog (anonymous) says…

"I want a Sarah Palin type that kicks ass and takes names. Got it?!:-TSSorry folks, but she strikes me more as one who kisses butt and calls names.
October 10, 2008 at 10:43 p.m.
tangential_reasoners_anonymous (anonymous) says…

Lemming.
October 10, 2008 at 10:44 p.m.
tangential_reasoners_anonymous (anonymous) says…

Accck! Take two:Marion: "Whatever that may mean and there are millions of others like me."Lemming.
October 10, 2008 at 10:45 p.m.
bad_dog (anonymous) says…

"Should the loonies of this nation elect the Obamination I will join the resistance.Period.Whatever that may mean and there are millions of others like me."-MarionHow noble and gallant of you Marion the Constitutional traitor. An Army of none...
October 10, 2008 at 10:54 p.m.
camper (anonymous) says…

I don't think Obama can be held responsible for what other sources say or consider him to be. Other "paling around" with terrorist claims are weak and will be debunked (if not already). The Alaskan panel that concluded Palin abused power was also politically motivated in my opinion. Weak too.As much as I am growing to dislike McCain (as a candidate) , I could not help but be impressed by his bravery and integrity when he was imprisoned. He declined an early release that N Vietnam offered. McCain held true and declined because he believed that prisoners held longer should be released first. WOW. After that he endured more.Now back to the point. I wish that the campaign will get back to the issues at hand.
October 10, 2008 at 11:06 p.m.
RogueThrill (anonymous) says…

So, since Ayers and Obama were on a committee that was established and funded by the widow of republican endorsing McCain does that make him guilty by association too?
October 10, 2008 at 11:45 p.m.
tangential_reasoners_anonymous (anonymous) says…

Marion... in the morning... hair of the dog that you bit.
October 10, 2008 at 11:46 p.m.
bad_dog (anonymous) says…

John McCain says you are way out of line Marion. Give up the microphone and sit down.Yeah, hair of the dog, that's the ticket...
October 10, 2008 at 11:51 p.m.
RogueThrill (anonymous) says…

McCain on Obama. From today."No, ma'am," McCain said several times, shaking his head in disagreement. "He's a decent, family man, [a] citizen that I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues and that's what this campaign is all about."But everyone is so scared of him becoming president because socialism terrorist hitler..."[Senator Obama] is a decent person and a person that you do not have to be scared about as President of the United States," he said, before adding: "If I didn't think I would be one heck of a better president I wouldn't be running."Oh crap, John, say it ain't so. I want this man to be the nexrt hitler only an arab.
October 10, 2008 at 11:54 p.m.
RogueThrill (anonymous) says…

What's it like watching your schizophrenic party fracture before your eyes?"William Milliken, a former Republican governor of Michigan, seemed to walk back his previous endorsement of McCain in an interview yesterday with The Grand Rapids Press.""He is not the McCain I endorsed," said Milliken, reached at his Traverse City home Thursday. "He keeps saying, 'Who is Barack Obama?'I would ask the question, 'Who is John McCain?' because his campaign has become rather disappointing to me."I'm disappointed in the tenor and the personal attacks on the part of the McCain campaign, when he ought to be talking about the issues."Milliken, a lifelong Republican, is among some past leaders from the party's moderate wing voicing reservations and, in some cases, opposition to McCain's candidacy.
October 10, 2008 at 11:57 p.m.
RogueThrill (anonymous) says…

Oh, and there is the guy who ran Ronald Reagan's campaign manager. You remember Ronald Reagan right? He says that McCain is going to lose badly and at this point it is all about how many Senate and House seats he gives the democrats in the process.Man, I think it's going to be awesome to have Obama in with a Democratic supermajority. Maybe they won't even raise a fuss when he starts gassing christians and blowing up buildings around the capital.
October 11, 2008 at 12:01 a.m.
tangential_reasoners_anonymous (anonymous) says…

Marion: "Sorry, TR; not the case."Oh, I'm thinkin' a couple of cases. Marion: "I mean what I say and I say what I mean."But do you mean to say what you say,or do you just say what you say to be mean?
October 11, 2008 at 12:01 a.m.
RogueThrill (anonymous) says…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSeOBq...
October 11, 2008 at 12:02 a.m.
RedwoodCoast (anonymous) says…

Ok, so I haven't read all of the posts--actually nowhere near all of the posts. In any case, I'm assuming that BigPrune's intentions are to try to fuel the witch-hunting fervor of a desperate conservative political base.My comment: So what, and who cares?Just because this alleged Muslim religious leader (I didn't investigate beyond Prune's post) calls Obama the 'Messiah,' does not mean that Obama would accept such a role.I know what Prune's intentions were with this post, but I'm really failing to see any causal correlation between Obama and this leader. The only President I'm aware of who has acted as if he were being guided by divine intervention is George W. Bush, who Obama is consistently deriding.I guess I just don't understand, Prune. I'm afraid that your intentions have found a faulty handhold on the edge of the cliff into which the US conservative base is currently slipping. Sorry for the bad news.
October 11, 2008 at 12:44 a.m.
bondmen (anonymous) says…

The best looking HOPE sticker with the Barack Hussein Obama look in 4 colors is here:http://www.stickergiant.com/obama-hope_hope08.html
October 11, 2008 at 7:45 a.m.
RogueThrill (anonymous) says…

You should probably get over this Islam thing. He's not Islamic, he's not a one man sleeper cell, he's not trying to bring down his country. He's a black man that loves his country and wants to make it better.You're certainly not doing your party any favors when you run around like a redneck full of hate and fear. The American people want none of it and, increasingly, niether does your party.
October 11, 2008 at 7:52 a.m.
tangential_reasoners_anonymous (anonymous) says…

RT: "You're certainly not doing your party any favors when you run around like a redneck full of hate and fear."Exactly... fear and hatred. Hey, Marion (et al.), here's an insight which even children *get*...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHa3D-musUw&NR=1Why not try to get abreast of the emerging generation.
October 11, 2008 at 8:38 a.m.
temperance (anonymous) says…

Logicsound04 @10:08 has a good round-up of the increasing idiocy produced by Barak's surging poll numbers and McCain's campaigning failures. The name calling of Marxist and socialist is hilarious given the move toward federal intervention into the market in the last few weeks. Bush this weekend is considering taking federal ownership of private banks and Obama is the scary Marxist?Anyway, here are Marion's recent action items:"Barack Hussein Obama is a supporter of terrorism and Marxism who threatens the very core of the American way of life. . . Anyone who votes for the terrorist advocate Barack Hussein Obama is, in fact, a supporter of mass murder and terrorism. . . . Should the loonies of this nation elect the Obamination I will join the resistance. . . . You ain't never seen "white backlash" like you are going to see from this."I know how we treat terrorists and mass murderers in this country. I know they don't deserve to live. So, I want to know what I should do as part of the resistance, as part of the "white backlash." I mean, sure, I can vote and write my representatives and everything, but these are terrorists and terrorist supporters we're talking about. McCain said yesterday, in response to a woman who called Obama an Arab, "No, ma'am. He's a decent, family man, a citizen that I just happen to have disagreements with." Clearly McCain is not leading the resistance effectively who will? What will they do?
October 11, 2008 at 8:45 a.m.
Logan72 (Alia Ahmed) says…

temperance-Do you suppose the FBI is aware of these threats? It sounds like he wants to overthrow the government and lead an armed rebellion. And he has the nerve to call others terrorists. Amazing. When it looks like the election isn't going his way, he's ready to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Good grief. Scary!
October 11, 2008 at 9:10 a.m.
bad_dog (anonymous) says…

Great point, Alia-one that I've been reflecting on myself after reading Marion's posts.I know Federal prosecutors and can certainly locate the phone number of the FBI regional office in KC.If I continue seeing this kind of garbage from Marion or anyone else, I won't have any problem referring this to the appropriate parties. Let them make the determination regarding the propriety of such statements...
October 11, 2008 at 9:32 a.m.
temperance (anonymous) says…

Alia -- It's getting scary and I think McCain's recent efforts (weak as they are) to calm down the mob suggests that the Republican leadership is concerned that McCain/Palin rallies are looking too much like Munich beer halls in the 1930s. Now, McCain is getting booed when he makes even the slightest defense of Obama: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/... baby/bathwater comment is spot on. the McCain camp knows that they're going to lose so they're trying one last desperate attempt to paint Obama as a secret Muslim terrorist. They don't care that they're poisoning our political culture. They don't care that they're acting un-American by inciting violence against their own citizens. They just want money and raw power -- that's all they ever have wanted.
October 11, 2008 at 9:37 a.m.
Logan72 (Alia Ahmed) says…

b_d, I was just thinking that the FBI must have a large contigency of staff who probably just review blogs and comments on the internet to try to identify potential problems and extremists. The great thing about our country is people can hold very different views and be protected by free speech, but when does it go over the line to threatening or inciting violence? I think both conservatives and liberals are raising some pretty legitimate questions about when campaigning crosses the line. I really hope no one is serious about the threats they are making at campaign rallies or on the internet. We can all get pretty worked about these issues, but probably 99.9% of us believe in our country's system of selecting leaders and would not take matters in to their own hands.
October 11, 2008 at 9:44 a.m.
tangential_reasoners_anonymous (anonymous) says…

At the heart of fear is *self* preservation-the sub-rational "defense" of oneself against every threat, perceived and... imagined.
October 11, 2008 at 9:49 a.m.
Logan72 (Alia Ahmed) says…

temperence,That is pretty sad about the reaction John McCain received when he tried to return the discussion to the issues instead of character attacks. Unfortunately, the mob mentality can cause people to act in a way collectively that they would never do if they weren't pumped up by a fervent crowd. By demonizing and de-humanizing the opponent, people can forget these are fellow Americans they are attacking and rationalize all sorts of behavior.
October 11, 2008 at 9:50 a.m.
bad_dog (anonymous) says…

I too am saddened by the response McCain recently received.I appplaud him for attempting to reverse the recent course of his campaign. Perhaps there is a reasonable, honorable man inside after all.
October 11, 2008 at 10:35 a.m.
Logan72 (Alia Ahmed) says…

Marion Lynn,I'm glad you'll work within the system if Obama is elected. The reason I thought you wouldn't is because of these statements of yours:Marion: "Should the Obamination seize control of this nation, l suspect that armed resistance and even revolution may follow."Marion: Should the loonies of this nation elect the Obamination I will join the resistance. Period. Whatever that may mean and there are millions of others like me.Marion: Should Barack Hussein Obama be elected I must go here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUwpLyIDIJw&feature=relatedMarion: You ain't never seen "white backlash" like you are going to see from this. Win or lose, the Obamination is screwed.Marion, your last comment is particularly telling when it's followed by your youtube Nazi National Anthem.
October 11, 2008 at 11:33 a.m.
dandelion (anonymous) says…

Forget it, Marion. The civil war didn't happen when your hero blew up the Oklahoma City federal building or when he was put out of our misery, and it's not going to happen now. Go hide in your bomb bunker with your duct tape, please. I feel sorry for Obama in a way. He is going to inherit this mess. It would be nice to if we could unite and help him get the US out of this mess, but there are too many anti Americans like Marion, RT (and his many other reincarnations) who want this country to fall apart. Maybe they think they could start their own little dictatorship here in eastern Kansas. Dream on, buddies. The rest of us are going to work on restoring the American dream and take the country back from the corporations. They do not stand for capitalism, and never have. Sorry if you'll lose money, and have to get a real job.
October 11, 2008 at 1:37 p.m.
RogueThrill (anonymous) says…

I certainly hope that there is another "RT" here that more closely associates with Marion, because we ar on different poles.
October 11, 2008 at 2:27 p.m.
tangential_reasoners_anonymous (anonymous) says…

right_thinker( it's an oxymoron... and so is he )
October 11, 2008 at 2:42 p.m.
Mixolydian (anonymous) says…

Obama respects and admires Farrakhan.Farrakhan respects and admires Obama.I can't believe this simple fact is generating so many posts.What's the big deal?
October 11, 2008 at 5:03 p.m.
bad_dog (anonymous) says…

"Although I would not wish armed revolution to come to this nation, there are those who will bring it should our government be usurped by the Obamination."You are a melodramatic crybaby, Marion. Usurpation occurs in cases of wrongful or illegal seizures of political offices or thrones. If Obama wins the election, no usurpation will be involved. Therefore, your dire warning has no merit, per se."I do not support those who advocate the superiority of one ethnic group over another..."Sorry. I just have a real hard time believing your motivation is as pure as the driven snow."Should the Omaination be given the Office, the American people will soon enough realise how they have been duped by the Left and when they see their rights, property and income trampled and stolen by The One..."I'm not sure what the "Omaination" is. Are you really that rattled? Anyway, this is just more histrionic hyperbole. If Obama becomes President it will occur because he was elected by the majority of those who voted and it will be that electorate who "gives" him the Office. The American people have been duped by a large number and variety of politicians for some time. Don't try to act like it just began in this election cycle or that Obama will somehow worsen the situation based solely on your cynical world view. You have little to no credibility to me. I know, you don't care-whatever.I wasn't real happy when the Shrub was "given" the Office by the Supreme Court in 2000. I supported McCain at the time and didn't like the way Bush ran his campaign. Nevertheless (and primarily because I had been a long-time registered Republican), I told my wife and friends I'd give him the benefit of the doubt. I hoped for the best primarily due to the rampant political and ideological division plaguing this country and Bush's apparently ill deserved reputation for working across the aisle. Now after being force-fed Bush's version of Republican "values" for the last 8 years, I've more than had enough. I believe most of America has as well. If you insist on being angry as you so apparently do, I suggest you focus that acrimony, frustration and disdain on the folks truly responsible for your condition. You already know who they are and they are you.
October 11, 2008 at 5:36 p.m.
beatrice (anonymous) says…

Racists and bigots acting as bloggers. Nice going LJWorld! I hope all of your advertisers learn of this lastest trend and pull their advertisements.
October 11, 2008 at 5:57 p.m.
Logan72 (Alia Ahmed) says…

Marion quotes Farakkan of saying, "The levees might have been blown up on purpose to rid the area of black neighborhoods:"(Referring to New Orleans)Here's what McCain's spiritual leader, John Hagee, had to say about the same event, "I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God, and they are-were recipients of the judgment of God for that. The newspaper carried the story in our local area, that was not carried nationally, that there was to be a homosexual parade there on the Monday that the Katrina came."Here's the advice McCain was given when he got the Republican nomination on how to handle his relationship with the controversial Hagee, "Now that he has secured the Republican nomination for president, and has received the endorsement of President Bush, McCain will now embark on a series of fundraising events. When he meets with Catholics, he is going to be asked about his ties to Hagee. He should also be asked whether he approves of comments like this: "A Godless theology of hate that no one dared try to stop for a thousand years produced a harvest of hate." That quote is proudly cited by David Brog in his recent book, Standing with Israel. Both Brog and Hagee clearly identify the Roman Catholic Church as spawning a "theology of hate." http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/the_...
October 11, 2008 at 7:01 p.m.
hitme (anonymous) says…

Jesus was martyred...hmmmm
October 11, 2008 at 9:23 p.m.
dandelion (anonymous) says…

Let's see. Farakan is not an advisor to Obama, but over on another Lawrence forum I read that one of Cheney's flunkies is helping run McCain's campaign. I googled it and they're right. So which is more scary? Farakan with no real power over Obama, or Cheney, the constitution hater, with apparently lots of power over McCain. Why can't he take the money he'll be getting from Helliburton and retire to Saudi Arabia. Talk about a traitor.
October 11, 2008 at 10:42 p.m.
bearded_gnome (anonymous) says…

That is pretty sad about the reaction John McCain received when he tried to return the discussion to the issues instead of character attacks. Unfortunately,the mob mentality can cause people to act in a way collectively that they would never do if they weren't pumped up by a fervent crowd. By demonizing andde-humanizing the opponent, people can forget these are fellow Americans they are attacking and rationalize all sorts of behavior.---Aliarather hypocritical, seeing how she lifted almost word-for-word a totally baseless DailyKos smear of Sarah Palin and her daughter, put it up as a blog as her own work. the smear was that one that the baby was actually the daughter's and Sarah was covering, lying, to protect her daughter. so, when you read Alia's comments, trying to sound so clean and pure, she's not. that blog was totally yanked (very rare) by the ljworld admin. note, this blog has *not* been pulled.BP wrote accurately except to note that Nation of Islam is not the same as Islam. Marion's quotes from Farrakhan as far as I know are accurate. and Hagee never had the relationship to McCain's pastor that Farrakhan did with Rev. Wright! nice try, but lame and batted outa the park. further, some polls are showing a *shrinking* lead for Barry H. Obama. More people *are* learning about his questionable associations. more people are learning that Barry H. Obama *couldn't even pass a basic security screen. Barry H. Obama purchased his home in Chicago through the assistance of a convicted felon. Barry H. Obama says from one side of his mouth that we're in a serious economic crisis; the other side he still wants to increase foreign aid and increase taxes (increasing taxes is the *worst* thing to do in an economic slowdown!).
October 11, 2008 at 11:09 p.m.
BigPrune (anonymous) says…

What if McCain were a trainer for an organization that commits voter fraud and whose campaign donated $800,000 to that organization?What if McCain was the attorney who represented this organization that fought to let low income people obtain loans they couldn't afford?But I digress.Who in their right mind would want to be President now? I think if McCain bows out, it's okay. The American people think the President is to blame for everything even though the corrupt Democrats in Congress started this boondoggle. The Republicans have the next Ronald Reagan in waiting - that person being Sarah Palin.The Democrats will have the House, the Senate and the Presidency. We are in for a long 4 years of hell.Locally, Lawrence has been in a recession for 7 years now. So goes Lawrence, so goes the rest of the country? If you think things are screwed up locally, just wait for the Socialism to happen on a national scale.
October 11, 2008 at 11:31 p.m.
BigPrune (anonymous) says…

These ARE facts indieObama was a trainer for an organization that has been convicted numerous times of committing voter fraud and his campaign donated $800,000 to that organization, ACORN.Obama was an attorney who represented ACORN that fought to let low income people obtain loans they couldn't afford.This could be fun if I had the time to do some more research on some of the FACTS about Obama. It is too late. I can't just copy and paste something from another blog - if I find a good rebuttal I will sooner rather than write something on my own later.Nighty, night.
October 11, 2008 at 11:58 p.m.
bad_dog (anonymous) says…

"further, some polls are showing a *shrinking* lead for Barry H. Obama. More people *are* learning about his questionable associations. more people are learning that Barry H. Obama *couldn't even pass a basic security screen."-bearded gnome"Some polls", huh? Care to provide a link to them? What about your claim regarding "basic security checks"? Please enlighten us with the source of that claim as well.Here's a link to "some polls" for you. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epol...
October 12, 2008 at 12:28 a.m.
snap_pop_no_crackle (anonymous) says…

"This is the group Barack Obama says he want to shape his potential presidency. More and more we are learning that the word integrity is not part of his vocabulary."http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/10/11/barack-obama-tells-acorn-members-they-will-shape-presidential-agenda.php
October 12, 2008 at 8:02 a.m.
TheSychophant (anonymous) says…

http://i38.tinypic.com/whocas.jpg
October 12, 2008 at 8:12 a.m.
grammaddy (anonymous) says…

Go to Mecca and talk to some real Muslims and you'll find out that the Nation of Islam in this country has very little to do with real Islam. Farrakhan is full of it. Obama rebuked him in the beginning.
October 12, 2008 at 9:04 a.m.
dandelion (anonymous) says…

Did anyone consider that Farakan is endorsing Obama in order to turn people off. I mean, Obama is a Christian, he isn't a descendent of slaves, he was raised in a white family with all the advantages that whites have, despite periods of poverty. If anything, I think he really hates Obama and would like to see him fail. He knows an endorsement from him would turn off some people, and make people like Marion rabid.
October 12, 2008 at 9:57 a.m.
grammaddy (anonymous) says…

Marion, i just re read the post before my first one and realized who it belonged to. Glad to see your crazy butt is still around fanning the flames of bulls#!t. Now go re read my first post.Can't agree with you on anything but glad to have you around to argue with!! Have you forgotten that Barack is half white and was raised by his all white grandparents? He distanced himself from Farrakhan a long time ago.
October 12, 2008 at 10:03 a.m.
bad_dog (anonymous) says…

"Since through accident of birth, I happen to be "white", I am a bit more than concerned by such rhetoric as would be any rational person when the target of death threats."Marion, I also happen to be white. No accidents involved-just the offspring of two white parents. I'm not the slightest bit concerned about Farrakhan's rants. Frankly, you lost me when you alluded to being a "rational person".You did, however, hit the nail on the head when you characterized this garbage as a "Farrakhan/Obama conspiracy theory".
October 12, 2008 at 10:16 a.m.
ChrisNyberg (anonymous) says…

For the last 45 minutes I have been laughing non stop. Facts are facts, and I would not even think about voting for either one of the corporate candidates. Many reasons already mentioned, but one that both support the bailout of wallstreet
October 12, 2008 at 12:11 p.m.
Disk2Legacy (anonymous) says…

Just another reason I am NOT voting for Obama
October 13, 2008 at 1:03 p.m.
emilyhadley (Emily Hadley) says…

oh dear.
October 13, 2008 at 1:42 p.m.
faceit (anonymous) says…

What if Joe Biden got kicked out of a class in Law school for plagiarism? What if Joe Biden graduated as #76 of 85 of his Law school and lied and said he graduated in the top half? What if he claimed he had a full academic scholarship in Law school, but really only had a half, need-based scholarship? What if he claimed he won an award for being an outstanding student in his major, but actually didn't? What if he claimed he graduated with three degrees, but really only graduated with one? What if he was only a 'c' student who actually graduated 506th in a class of 688? What if he claimed he won the International Moot Court competition, but really didn't win it? What if Joe Biden got caught plagiarizing a speech written by, Neil Kinnock, a British politician? What if he plagiarized part of a speech by Bobby Kennedy?Well, guess what? All these what ifs are actually true. Biden IS a chronic liar.
October 13, 2008 at 6:40 p.m.
towanda54 (anonymous) says…

Marion Lynn,Our current Republican president has already done a great job of moving our country to a socialist state. As I heard someone say today about our current system, "They to privatize the gains (stockholders, CEO's) and socialize the losses (taxpayers)". We already have a redistribution of wealth. Your fear mongering is not going to work, we now have a subsized financial system to go along with our subsidized agricultural system, transportation system, etc, etc, etc.
October 14, 2008 at 10:53 p.m.
towanda54 (anonymous) says…

Marion,That sounds like a McCain tactic, ignore the message because it's right on and attack the messenger.Here's one link of the 28,300 hits I got when I googled private the profits, socialize the losses. http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/diar...
October 15, 2008 at 7:36 a.m.