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Sarah Palin: With Interest

As are most people, I am watching the development of Palin's resignation as governor of the great state of Alaska with interest.

Media and spin doctors are having a field day with the reasons behind Palin's decision, and CNN in particular seems to take delight in replaying specific parts of Palin's speech to show any number of repetitive word choices. The word "ball" comes to mind - and what additionally comes to mind is the question, " Would they be doing the same thing to a male governor and his decision to step down?"

Political analysts give their take on Palin's "quitting" as anywhere from a savvy political move on her part (ensuring a heightened chance at the 2012 Presidency), an unknown personal scandal, an all out hands up in the air, "I quit because I'm fed up," attitude, but what about other reasons?

Palin surely has numerous opportunities in the world of finances which would far exceed her income as a politician. Perhaps she is well enough known that she and family will travel the guest speaker circuit at universities, maybe she has signed a book deal that would enable her to retire from public life, or maybe, just maybe, there is an outside chance that she has landed a late night talk show opposite Letterman's prime viewing spot. One can only hope!

In any case, I will be watching with interest to see what transpires with Palin over the next few years. I am sure I am not alone in hoping she grows in political knowledge, ability to deal with a biased media, and that she and her lovely family have a chance to experience some much needed peace and pleasure.

I think the quote she gave about the saying on her parent's refrigerator sums it up best, "Don't explain: your friends don't need it and your enemies won't believe it anyway."

I suspect Palin will return to the political arena and she will have grown - with interest.

By Ronda Miller

July 4, 2009

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4 July 2009
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…

I will watch with disinterest.

Palin's “duck” was rather lame, IMNSHO.
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…

,;-)
4 July 2009
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

No fireworks for you tonight! :*(
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…

(hmm… one wonders whether Sarah derives all her political wisdom from refrigerator magnets….)
4 July 2009
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…

Are you sure about the fireworks?
After all, I do have snakes, sparklers, and smoke-and-mirror bombs.
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

“one wonders whether Sarah derives all her political wisdom from refrigerator magnets” - others (such as yourself) would do well to follow such 'cold' advice.

Let's try to stay positive here, folks. After all, it is the 4th and we are a nation of politics and political giants…. ;)

tange, careful playing with matches….would hate to see you get burned.
4 July 2009
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xbusguy (Anonymous) says…

People can say what they want about her…. but, they can't deny the fact that 1) she is a household name; 2) she is hot.

4 July 2009
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…

… not.
4 July 2009
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schula (Anonymous) says…

Ronda — I didn't see any news last night so I was quite surprised when I picked up the paper this morning to see that Palin had resigned. I will probably talk with my former sister in law (she lives in Anchorage) and get her take on the whole thing. Will let you know what she has to say.
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grammaddy (Anonymous) says…

Does anyone really believe that resigning her position as Governor of Alaska will get her ahead on a Presidential run in 2012? A quitter is a quitter in my books. If she and McCain had won last November, would she have resigned that seat,too? I think she's had too much on her plate from the beginning and her ego wouldn't let her admit it, OR there's about to be a BIG scandal involving her or someone in her family. I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop….
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…

“Let's try to stay positive here, folks. After all, it is the 4th and we are a nation of politics and political giants…. ;) ”

… and political midgets, apparently.

,;-)

[ smiley inserted to maintain atmosphere of positivity ]
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

xbus, are you really my uncle to lives in Bird City? ;) He thinks she is hot as well even though he votes Democrat.

schula, yes, I would appreciate a take from someone who lives in Alaska. I imagine some people feel she is deserting them and the state, but I am sure she has good reason. It sounded as though she was also tired of costing her state money to keep defending unsubstantiated charges against her.

tange, time to go play with matches?
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

gram, I think the belief is that she would have additional time to learn the base knowledge required for her to interview well, gives her and family a break from the media…and she can return a “new” woman. It will be interesting to see what actually transpires with her. I am trying to stay out of the way of the giant falling shoe. ;)
4 July 2009
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NQNNg…
4 July 2009
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schula (Anonymous) says…

Ronda — I won't talk to her until tomorrow. I will be working the Kid Rock/Lynyrd Skynrd concert at Sandstone tonight.

Have a safe and happy 4th everyone!

4 July 2009
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autie (Anonymous) says…

The phrase, “get out while the gettin is good” comes to mind. She was a do nothing figurehead that ran the office with emotion, rife with controversy. A pretty face with a line of BS a mile long does not make a politician. She will fade in obsurity in short order. The RNC wouldn't touch her with a ten foot pole at this point.
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

schula, have a terrific day yourself. I hope the crowd doesn't get too crazy and the humidity factor improves!

tange, have punk, will travel….love that song and them boys!
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tvf2k (Anonymous) says…

“I am trying to stay out of the way of the giant falling shoe.”

Hope it's not one of those Naughty Monkey Double Dare pumps she was rocking on the campaign trail. Nothing says “new woman” like retail therapy on the contributors' dime.
4 July 2009
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

autie says,”A pretty face with a line of BS a mile long does not make a politician.”

Humm…seems to have worked well for the rest of them. ;)

I think you are selling her short, autie, but I appreciate your opinion (much more than tanges..)
4 July 2009
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

tvf, now that comment sounds somewhat partial to men. I think our male politicians seem to dress, or overdress, quite well themselves…as do their wives and their children. and any idea where I can get, “Naughty Monkey Double Dare pumps?” at an affordable price? ;) I love your line about retail therapy…may I use it?
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tvf2k (Anonymous) says…

Knock yourself out Ronda, and no need to cite me. If it was perceived as partial to men, it was not intended that way.

Who cares if Palin knows what the capital of Poland is or how federal excise taxes contribute to revenue growth. My take is that if she can manage like and executive, which there are a growing number of reports that she has been ineffective at, then she can be a viable candidate. She gets your attention, which in our age of politics, is more than half of the battle.

If we want to deride her ability to grasp issues, fine, put eggheads in office and let them bicker over issues and direction then wash their hands of responsibility. But thus far Palin's core support, the church-going pro-life conservatives, likely could not carry an election for her is it were held TODAY. But given time for her to get her messages as clear as possible, and time for her idiot competition - Sanford, Ensign, Gingrich - to implode, she may emerge as the candidate of choice.
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logicsound09 (Anonymous) says…

You might want to take the word 'quitting' out of quotations on your blog. You talk about the “spin doctors”, but it seems to me that labeling someone leaving office with nearly 2 years left in her term as anything *but* quitting is spin.

She may have a very good and understandable reason for stepping down, but it won't change the fact that she is quitting, plain and simple. I was particularly annoyed at the part of her speech where she talked about most politicians “accepting lame duck status”, as if her decision to walk out is somehow noble and pure.

A lame duck isn't precluded from accomplishing goals—there are drawbacks to that status, but there are also benefits, the ability to push politically unpopular but necessary ideas, not having to worry about being re-elected being one example.

I would be irate if a politician that I supported decided to throw in the towel before his/her term was up, and I find it obnoxious and disingenuous that some of Palin's supporters are trying to “spin” (there's that word again) this in a positive light.
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prolifersforwar (Anonymous) says…

She will Lead Us with her charisma and oratory dexterity as the Flaming Skulls chase you hell-bound liberals to hell. And I will follow! Lead on, Sarah. We must fight for the sanctity of life and kill our enemies both here and abroad and abstain from sex before marriage. You don't have to be a leader to lead, or know anything to lead. You just have to be chosen by God. And God only choses Republicans. Lead on, Sarah. We've got them on the ropes!

4 July 2009
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hodgesmom (Dayle Hodges) says…

Uhh, What??
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tvf2k (Anonymous) says…

Either you are satirically talented or simply affirming fringe conservative elements….using Flaming Skulls, hell-bound liberals, abstinence, and ropes in the same paragraph. Wow. Just, wow.
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…

Seems that Sarah's been stuck in the spin cycle for some time now.
Time to hang her out to dry.
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

tvf, thanks…I might just use it then.

“Who cares if Palin knows what the capital of Poland is or how federal excise taxes contribute to revenue growth. My take is that if she can manage like and executive, which there are a growing number of reports that she has been ineffective at, then she can be a viable candidate. She gets your attention, which in our age of politics, is more than half of the battle.”

I agree in part with your statement here, but I do feel the American people judge her, as well as other political leaders, if she doesn't have a good sound knowledge base. I think her biggest mistake in the past was simply stating, “I don't know the answer to that question(s), but I will find out.” No one is expected to know all the answers….she just needed to feel secure enough to admit she did not.

logic, I can appreciate your thinking here and I am sure there are many Alaskans who do feel disappointed by her decision. As more light is shed on it, however, we/they may find it is about being noble, costing the taxpayers a fortune in money that would be better spent elsewhere.

At what point and time is it acceptable for a politician to “quit”? Is it more honorable for a politician to continue to hold an office while running for a presidency, or would it be more honorable for them/he to have quit?

I don't find the word quit a necessarily negative word choice in terms of Palin…it is what it is…resign is quit by any other spelling. ;()
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

Dayle, if your comment was directed to prolife, then I agree.

Prolife, who are you, where do you come from, what do you want, and what the heck are you talking about? Are you being satirical?

tvf, they get points for being creative, no? ;)
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BigPrune (Anonymous) says…

One blog said she is getting $20 Million to pose in Playboy.
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…

Palin 2012… “She knows when to quit!”

,;-D
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Logan72 (Alia Ahmed) says…

Palin states she is “quitting” because she doesn't believe in “politics as usual” as she announces she is “quitting” on the first day of a three day weekend, which is clearly a “politics as usual” tactic. Hmmmm?

Ronda, you say you want to stay positive yet repeat the RNC's very negative and false talking point about the liberal media. Have you read the publisher's editorial today, how about Cal Thomas' latest piece, Charles Krauthammer's piece, George Will's latest piece and the article from the WSJ about Franken's attorneys “stealing” the election? There goes the liberal media again, right? Bill Kristol is now “spinning” Palin's decision to “quit” as a very shrewd political move. He may be right about that in the long run, but isn't that politics as usual then to make a decision not to finish the term you were elected to because you want to run for president in 3 years?

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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

BigPrune, and was that one written by you? ;)

tange, but do you?
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tvf2k (Anonymous) says…

Yes Ronda, points for creativity. Much the same way that someone once dropped eggs in a pan, folded them over, and called it an omelet.
4 July 2009
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

Alia, isn't her choice better than staying on the payroll while she prepares for a 2012 election as “others who shall remain nameless but in our hearts and mind” have done?

I think it is a bit too early to know exactly what it is that she is doing….Cal, Charles, and George are only doing what the rest of us are at this point…pure speculation.

I am “guessing” that Palin has many, many reasons behind her decision…just as most of us do about any important life change in our own lives. And as she stated, she took her children's opinions as a key factor….bravo to Palin! She proves herself once again to be one gutsy role model.
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

tvf….scrambled brains reference? lovin it…and I am not at Micky D's…..
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logicsound09 (Anonymous) says…

I don't think there is necessarily a specific benchmark for when it's okay to quit as a politician. Each situation is different.

However, I will say that trying to draw a line between campaigning while in office and quitting said office to campaign is splitting hairs in my opinion. Both decisions are selfish—both cases involve a politician putting their own goals and aspirations ahead of their duty to the taxpayers. Personally, I'd prefer a politician at least make the attempt to multi-task rather than walking out—after all, isn't performing the duties of office the most poigniant campaign tool? A demonstration of that politician's ability in office?
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Valkyrie_of_Reason (Kathy Getto) says…

A Republican strategist stated, in regard to Palin's resignation: ” Good point guards don't quit and walk off the court.”

Palin once said ” Real women hunt moose.”

I say “Real women don't quit!!”

Maybe, just maybe, she can travel the country teaching us all about abstinence, birth control, and the proper manner in which to treat a rape victim.
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

logic, good points as usual although, “trying to draw a line between campaigning while in office and quitting said office to campaign is splitting hairs in my opinion,” I think there is a big difference between the two.

By quitting in order to run a campaign - one, you aren't drawing a paycheck while giving your full attention to a personal pursuit over your job… one that involves working for the people of the state who voted you in should be of the utmost consideration for doing that job to your fullest.

And - two, it depends on the “real” reason she is quitting. If it is truly to save the state money that is being spent defending allegations against her and could be put to better use (obviously this would be the case) than she absolutely morally needs to quit.
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Logan72 (Alia Ahmed) says…

Ronda,

I would have repected her more (though quite honestly probably wouldn't even know who she was) had she taken into consideration the toll running for vice president might have taken on her family last fall given the incredible changes they were experiencing at the time. She certainly has the right to make whatever choices she sees fit. I definite support her right to “choice” on many levels. I hope she and her family have a more peaceful, less stressful life than they've experienced in the past 9 months or so.

As a pre-emptive strike, I'll save your friend gnome the trouble of reminding our fellow readers that I wrote a blog about Palin last fall that repeated gossip about her family (though my blog actually stated upfront that it was gossip), though I'm sure he'll still want to leap on the opportunity to attack me and invalidate anything I say, especially about this subject. :~)

Happy 4th of July, Ronda et al! I hope you get to spend it with friends and family. Has your son left for the service yet? I wish him godspeed as he serves our country.

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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

Kathy, I think there are many things Palin can teach us.

“A Republican strategist stated, in regard to Palin's resignation: ” Good point guards don't quit and walk off the court.”” they do if they are a team player and only hurting their team.
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

Alia, back at you in terms of the 4th with your family. Will you be traveling? Enjoy special time with those little family members!

My son leaves the end of August and I appreciate your thoughts about him!

As far as Palin, “I would have respected her more (though quite honestly probably wouldn't even know who she was) had she taken into consideration the toll running for vice president might have taken on her family last fall given the incredible changes they were experiencing at the time”

I think it is nearly impossible to anticipate all that will transpire in any of our lives…even our “normal, calm, non public ones”, let alone a surprise option to be asked by that sexy McCain (hehehe) to stand beside him as a running mate. What a whirlwind for all involved including her parents, friends, and siblings. So many ramifications in all we do…the pebble that causes a tidal wave.

I will not comment on the reference to my dear friend gnome… ;(
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Logan72 (Alia Ahmed) says…

Well, Ronda, I'm glad I live in the U,S,A, where we are all allowed to express our views, no matter how divergent that may be (McCain and sexy, i.e.).

I'll spend the evening with my daughter, son-in-law and beautiful grandchildren in Overland Park. I was going to venture to Logan, KS (center of the universe and my blog name) for a family reunion but had a last minute change in plans. I'll be happy to enjoy a relaxing and peaceful weekend at home.
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Boston_Corbett (Anonymous) says…

I'll wager real money on this one Ronda. You are obviously living in Neverland. How did you get by security?
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…

“…a decision not to finish the term you were elected to because you want to run for president in 3 years?”

( hmm… only three years… with at least a three decade gap to close…
she's not gonna make it…. )
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ebyrdstarr (Anonymous) says…

Ronda asked “Would they be doing the same thing to a male governor and his decision to step down?”

I would certainly hope so! A governor resigning out of the blue with a year and a half left of his/her term is big news. It deserves to be considered and investigated and broken down. And the words of the resignation speech should be parsed, especially when the speech is as incoherent and rambling as that one was. Did you not see all of the media scrutiny heaped on Gov. Sanford for his tear-filled press conference and his uncomfortable, confession-like interview with the AP?
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jaywalker (Anonymous) says…

” Have you read the publisher's editorial today, how about Cal Thomas' latest piece, Charles Krauthammer's piece, George Will's latest piece and the article from the WSJ about Franken's attorneys “stealing” the election? There goes the liberal media again, right?”

Come on, Alia, I know you're alot smarter than that. It's pretty ridiculous to attempt a sneer of derision at the belief of a predominantly liberal media by citing the most well known conservative op-ed columnists. When someone's asserting a liberal bias in media they aren't referring to the ideologues, but to the lack of impartiality from general reporters and news anchors who are supposed to convey the news without or with as little agenda and opinion as possible.

“Personally, I'd prefer a politician at least make the attempt to multi-task rather than walking out—after all, isn't performing the duties of office the most poigniant campaign tool? A demonstration of that politician's ability in office?”

You bring up thoughtful points as usual, logic. I definitely feel that Palin, if this move is in preparation for a campaign run, should have remained in office longer. Way too premature for this shift right now (and a waste of time, imo).But after watching McCain and Obama perform as little more than absentee Senators for their campaigns, I'm kinda thinkin' I'd like it to be a pre-req for Pres. candidates to withdraw from their currently held office. I don't know. Whaddya think?
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

ebyrd, I didn't pay as much attention to Sanford as I would have liked…from what I did hear it has been fascinating and it isn't over yet. I wasn't commenting they, the press, weren't doing the same thing…or should not be…just asking if people thought it would be questioned in the same manner…same nit picking details.

Alia,
I have not been to Logan. I bet it is a neat place. Enjoy your evening regardless and hope the little ones aren't frightened of the big bangs…..(how could anyone disagree with McCain's sex appeal…)

Boston, this blog isn't about Jackson, sonny boy! Put your money where your mouth is. You state, “'ll wager real money on this one Ronda,” but you don't state what your wager is or what it is about….Clue me in…Corbett - if you're still man enough.

tange, three decade gap to close on whom, what…am I missing whatever you all are meaning behind/between the lines. My intuitive thought process isn't working so well at present.

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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

jay,

“But after watching McCain and Obama perform as little more than absentee Senators for their campaigns, I'm kinda thinkin' I'd like it to be a pre-req for Pres. candidates to withdraw from their currently held office. I don't know. Whaddya think?”

I personally would like to think that all of the people named would have a bit more foresight than to run for office at a huge price to taxpayers when they know that isn't the job they want to finish. Although, obviously they do need a backup pay check should they lose their bid for the Presidency. Covering their bottoms I guess…can't blame them for that, although I doubt either McCain or Obama would have starved to death should they not have had a backup position. I like the idea that they need to withdraw…just have them throw their hats in the ring earlier…what this country needs is four year runs for Presidency…ya think! ;)
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jaywalker (Anonymous) says…

No, no, sweet Jesus no, Ronda! I am not in any fashion advocating a 'four year campaign'. That thought makes my stomach churn! In fact, how about campaign reform that limits such, like a year or something. The last one seemed to last forever, but that might have had something to do with the anticipation of getting W outta office.
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

Well, we know we agree on that one then….although I do know some people who would absolutely love the thought of a four year campaign! My son included….political junkie that he is….hum…wonder where he gets this stuff…….tummy feel better now? ;)
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ebyrdstarr (Anonymous) says…

Ronda, I guess I just don't agree with your characterization that anyone has been “nit picking details”. When a governor up and quits (no quotation marks for me), that speech is going to be played over and over again. The people of the state deserve to be told why the governor has made the decision she has and that speech left most scratching their heads. So we are left to try to figure out what exactly she meant. That isn't unfair nit-picking.
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RoeDapple (Anonymous) says…

autie (Anonymous) says…
“A pretty face with a line of BS a mile long does not make a politician.”

No, but that and $700,000,000 will get you in the White House.

;-)
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

Roe..hehehehe, yucyucyuc, hohoho…. :9) can life get any better!

ebyrd, Oh, I do dare to say that when the word “ball” is replayed every time that it is used then the press is nit picking….How else would you define it? Not to say they shouldn't be….just absolutely do believe that is what is being done. Heaven forbid she use the same word more than once in a speech….
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Logan72 (Alia Ahmed) says…

jaywalker, It is interesting how you call out anything I or another liberal writes if you disagree with it, but are silent when Tom and your fellow conservatives write the most ridiculous and inflamatory statemenst imaginable. The myth of the liberal media was created by the RNC many years ago. They discovered if you don't like the news, just attack the messengers. I pointed out those conservative columnists and Dolph's editorial of examples that have been published in this paper in the past few days. You are naive if you think that publishers don't strongly influence ediitorial content as well as the which news stories the decide to run. Publishers are overwhelmingly conservative. Here is some food for thought, but you'll probably dismiss it as the work of the liberal media. It's a convenient argument. Any evidence that disputes the myth of the liberal media can be dismissed as the work of the liberal media. It truly is a brilliant strategy. Not true, but brilliant none-the-less.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYlyb1…
http://makethemaccountable.com/myth/L…
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwal…
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ivantheterrible (Anonymous) says…

Political annalists….nothing BUTT one intellectual powerhouse (Rhonda) defending the other (Palin).

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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

ivan, that was terrible…..really now…making me the “butt” of your joke….
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beatrice (Anonymous) says…

“Would they be doing the same thing to a male governor and his decision to step down?”

Strawman alert! This is just another bogus “feminist” outrage coming from Ronda.

Imagine if Arnold Schwartzengroper had resigned before his first term as governor was up, do you think it would get media coverage? Now imagine any governor in his first term quitting months after being on the national ticket as v.p. Spare us your faux feminist outrage Ronda.

Also, John McCain, like so many others, cheated on his first wife, dumping her for the homewrecker Cindy. Glad to know your priorities are so in order that you find that “sexy.” I find it simply pathetic.
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ebyrdstarr (Anonymous) says…

Honestly, Ronda, I didn't see what you perceived. I watched CNN, Fox, and MSNBC for most of the afternoon and evening (I never watch as much t.v. as when I'm supposed to be working at home…). I saw clips from her speech replayed many times. The part of the speech where she talked about a good point guard passing the ball was replayed a lot, but not because anyone was being juvenile and enjoying the fact that she said the word “ball”. The segment was replayed because it was a silly analogy that people were trying to figure out. (No, a good point guard does not pass the ball out of a full-court press and then leave the court.)

Ronda, you've been a big fan of Palin from the beginning. You've been very defensive of her and quick to condemn any criticism of her You have also had to defend your admiration for her on these boards, so I would imagine that has extended elsewhere. At this point, I think you just see unfair treatment of her everywhere, no matter the circumstance.
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Liberty_One (Anonymous) says…

I wonder what her approval ratings in Alaska were just prior to this decision. I remember one of her big selling points just after McCain chose her was that she had an 80% approval rating in Alaska. I think she's gotten by on good looks, her everywoman status and a few conservative lines, but now that she's been exposed as having little real substance her political career is stalled with no chance of recovery.
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ivantheterrible (Anonymous) says…

I think Ronda sees nothing BUTT a left wing media conspiracy with CNN's political ANALlists.
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…

In defense of Ronda, she has a rather nice BUTT.
(Clearly, it does seem to invite swatting.)
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ivantheterrible (Anonymous) says…

Ronda you have updated your blog, used spell check and changed the word from anallist to analyst. You really should edit before posting all your faux feminist bu**s**t.
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…

(How is the word “bust” enhanced with all those asterisks?)

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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

ivan, and still it gets worse…what a crack that last one was….well, at least you do have a sense of humor….potty humor that it is. I bet you enjoy Letterman and SNL as well….well, I do too….

bea, Happy 4th…I figured you to be busy this day or I would have witnessed your appearance earlier. I actually pride myself in not writing this as a feminist blog….faux or not. And it is rather difficult to compare Arnold since that hasn't happened. I do recall some very nasty things said about him and his treatment of women though….quite nasty….

ebryd, the clip I am referring to was nothing BUT her comparison to the game of basketball…everything else she said was excluded so they could just keep replaying any context in which she utilized the analogy of the game of basketball, passing the ball, team player…etc. Now that type of language is often used by males…so why did they find it so unusual that a star player such as she had been would use it? Perhaps media would have preferred that she use an analogy with cooking or sewing…..

“At this point, I think you just see unfair treatment of her everywhere, no matter the circumstance.”….oh, you don't know the half of it! ;) And I agree I have most likely become overly sensitive to this…as any supporter of Obama, McCain, etc. may be to their candidate…

Liberty, interesting question…I actually thought her approval rating was quite high in Alaska before McCain nabbed her…with the thinking that was one reason he chose her.
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

Ivan,

Noun 1. annalist - a historian who writes annals
historian, historiographer - a person who is an authority on history and who studies it and writes about it.

It was the word annalist I mistakenly used instead of analyst, not your choice of the spelling: anallist…but go figure. Surely you have something better to do…take out the trash for example…. :)

tange, stop being so sexist! and the word “bust” was enhanced apparently with the “lift and separate” concept so popular among males these days…….
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…

There is nothing sexist about the acronym BUTT…

Blithe, Undifferentiated, Transmutable Temperament

(It's actually quite an appealing trait of yours.)

,;-)
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ebyrdstarr (Anonymous) says…

Ronda, I genuinely believe that analogy would have been pounced on and replayed and picked apart regardless of the speaker's gender. It was a silly analogy that was begging for analysts to attack the logic behind it. I really don't think there was anything odd to anyone about her using a sports analogy. It was just a bad analogy.

Last approval rating I saw of her in Alaska was 54%. Still positive, but much lower than her +80% from before the nomination.
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

ebryd, I respect your opinion, but I thought they could have “wasted” their time better. How recent was this approval rating? thanks…

tange, it is becoming less appealing as I continue to sit on it……
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…

Oh, not at all, I consider your BUTT to be quite PHAT.
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

Hopefully Phat is where its at…cuz it is what it is…and it ain't really all that.

Okay, now back to topic….PLEASE!
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RoeDapple (Anonymous) says…

It is finally dawning on me,(you know how slow witted we conservatives are perceived to be), the libtards must really consider Palin a threat, or why would they make such a fuss over every breath of air she takes? But then, even they must finally realize their 'anybody but Bush' rant is coming back to haunt them with 'Whizzo in the White House'. Hell, after four years of Barry, they might even vote for her!

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ivantheterrible (Anonymous) says…

faux feminine bulls**t not bust
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Logan72 (Alia Ahmed) says…

Roe,

You must be a little slower than most conservatives, because Tom and others have been saying that for sometime. If it comforts you to believe that, go right ahead. :~) It's been a rough past year for you and I think we should allow you that rationale no matter how far off the mark you are. I'm not sure what you mean by “Whizzo in the White House”, could you explain? When barrypenders says something like that we can assume there is a negative racial undertone involved. That isn't the impression I've gathered from you in previous posts, but I am baffled by your wording or what you're trying to convey.
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Newell_Post (Anonymous) says…

I'm just really glad we didn't elect this quitter to be a heartbeat away from the presidency.
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…

OK… back on topic… Sarah Palin…
that Beautiful, Intellectual Mother Battling Ogres…

(what more need I say?)
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logicsound09 (Anonymous) says…

“The people of the state deserve to be told why the governor has made the decision she has and that speech left most scratching their heads.” -ebyrdstarr

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This point seems to be getting ignored by Palin's defenders. I can hear the outrage now were a Democratic governor to resign with so much term his/her left…”the taxpayers deserve to know!”…hell, I seem to remember a fair amount of outrage at the fact that former Governor Sebelius was leaving Kansas taxpayers hanging, and she left with an actual duty in mind.

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“I'm kinda thinkin' I'd like it to be a pre-req for Pres. candidates to withdraw from their currently held office. I don't know. Whaddya think?” - jaywalker

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Theoretically, I like that idea but for a couple of issues:

1) I don't like the idea of having to lose a talented, successful politician because they lost the bid for their new office.

2) Along the same vein, I'm afraid that such a rule would thin the already shallow pool of viable Presidential candidates as politicians decided that the risk of ending their career was not worth the attempt at the presidency. I'm already of the opinion that the people who would do the best job as President don't even get a sniff at the office (Kucinich and Paul are two ideologically different men who I think would have been far better choices than the group we had to select from this year, for example).
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RoeDapple (Anonymous) says…

Nothing racial implied Alia, just adding a little humor (guess I'm the only one who is laughing!) by referring to BO as a clown. Whizzo was an uncle of a friend of mine, an Italian, so race had nothing to do with my post and never will. And thank you for your knidness….
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ivantheterrible (Anonymous) says…

My sentiments as well, N Post. As far as Palin's “sports analogy” isn't the main message we teach our children when playing sports is not to quit. This is the second Alaskan state position Palin has quit. The first was as Oil and Gas Conservation chairperson. She quit in 2004 because she claimed there was a “lack of ethics” in the Alaskan Repub party. She is currently under ethics investigation in Alaska and probably quit the governorship because an impending scandal involving the building of her lake home in Wasilla.
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logicsound09 (Anonymous) says…

Ronda, no amount of context would make Palin's basketball analogy any more accurate. Here are the elements of her analogy and what I believe the accurate comparisons are:

executive position = point guard
cabinet/advisors = fellow team members on the court
authority to act on or give input to an issue = the ball
any issue = trying to score in a number of ways
successful solution = a made basket

Now, to me, passing the ball involves handing authority to or asking the expertise of someone who may be more equipped to provide relevant knowledge to the specific issue. Just like you typically don't ask a center to step out and launch three-pointers or ask a point guard to go inside and post up, you would want your cabinet members advising you on their areas of expertise since the likelihood of the executive being an expert on all subjects is nil.

But no matter what the scoring method is, the point guard is not required to come out of the game and hand the reins over to the backup point guard in order for that scoring method to take place. Thought the backup may do a decent job, they are still not the first choice for the task, which is why they aren't a starter.

Palin isn't passing the ball (asking for input from advisors), she is coming out of the game. Her analogy deserves scrutiny because it is inaccurate in a way that makes her decision seem more responsible and acceptable than it really is. No one criticizes a point guard for passing the ball (or an executive for asking for expert advice) when the situation requires it. However, a point guard asking to come out of the game and have the backup (Lt. Governor in this case) take his/her place, that point guard is no longer being a team player. Now, of course, a starting point guard may have good reasons for needing to come out of the game (injury being one, desire to play point guard for a “better” team may be another), but since Palin has chosen to leave her reasons to herself, all that is left to do is speculate.

I will say that people who have a good reason for doing something that could be construed as selfish or irresponsible are usually eager to share that reason, lest they be portrayed negatively. A point guard deciding to come out of the game just because is going to incite speculation about the motives behind doing so. The fact that Palin has foregone the route of disclosure certainly lends credibility to the notion that she doesn't want people to know the real reasons behind her decision…

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RoeDapple (Anonymous) says…

Look at it this way, even if she did get elected POTIS, maybe she would pick a running mate everyone could agree on (well, most). Then when she resigns after three years we would all have someone more to our liking!
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RoeDapple (Anonymous) says…

*POTUS*
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Logan72 (Alia Ahmed) says…

Roe,

Thanks for the explanation. I'm sorry I didn't know Whizzo was a clown. I'll have to do some research about that. Sounds like he might have been related to Bozo.
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Logan72 (Alia Ahmed) says…

Roe,

I googled Whizzo and see he was on a local station. I grew up in Western Kansas but raised my kids who were born in 1978 and 1982 around here so surprised I didn't know who he was. Maybe I've repressed that memory. :~)

http://www.kshs.org/cool3/whizzo.htm
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RoeDapple (Anonymous) says…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CynVB8…
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Logan72 (Alia Ahmed) says…

Roe,

Thanks for the link. Sounds like a interesting guy and an interesting part of local TV history. Sorry, Ronda, we digress from the topic at hand.
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Boston_Corbett (Anonymous) says…

Ronda says: “Clue me in…Corbett - if you're still man enough”

Get your wallet out Ronda. I'll be in contact. Chump change not allowed.
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beatrice (Anonymous) says…

Ronda, the reason I compare Palin to the Governator of California is because they are both celebrity-governors (celebrovnors?). Arnold, of course, made movies that made us laugh and entertained us, and Palin was asked and accepted the Republican V.P. nomination — which made us laugh and entertained us.

Maybe that isn't a fair analogy, I know, but it is true. It is sad, but I'll wager that more people in our country can identify those two before they could name their own state's governor. I don't believe the media coverage of her bailing on her elected position has anything to do with her gender. Further, she is the one who used the sports analogy, so don't blame those who repeat it if it sounds a little off.

RoeD, did you actually use the term “libtards”? You are bigger than that, aren't you?

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beatrice (Anonymous) says…

Oh, and I forgot to add — Happy 4th to you, too Ronda (and to anyone else reading this)! Have fun and be safe.

It will be a not too miserable 105 today in Phoenix. There will be plenty of sunscreen for anyone who wants to jump in the pool, and the grill will get fired up as the sun is setting.
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

“Get your wallet out Ronda. I'll be in contact. Chump change not allowed.” At least you didn't “assume” I have a purse….non sexist that you are. Thanks for that, Corbett! Or should I say chump… ;)

Roe, coming in to do battle on my turf…have at it…I left (II really mean far right) to have an attempt at a nap and look at this mess…back to sleep with me…isn't that the way we're supposed to do it?

alia, so quick to judge roe…judge not roe…he is a good person as was your first instinct of him….

Whizzo, Bizzo, Bozo, Gonzo….they're all clowns…political entertainment at its finest….
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RoeDapple (Anonymous) says…

bea, for you, I will no longer use the L word……

;-)

Happy 4th!

My kids tell mr to quit trolling…………..

Have no idea what they are talking about………..
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Logan72 (Alia Ahmed) says…

Ronda,

I don't think I was quick to judge Roe at all. I don't think Roe assumed that. I ask for clarifcation and he kindly provided it.
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RoeDapple (Anonymous) says…

By the way, Alia, I know a few kids (back then) who said Whizzo smelled 'well oiled' when they were on his show…..

Although that had nothing to do with my comparison.
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JohnBrown (Anonymous) says…

My guess is Sarah quit to find a way to make more money: book deal, speeches, etc. She indicated that the lawsuit bills have piled up.
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Logan72 (Alia Ahmed) says…

Roe,

He seems like a interesting fellow. I take it you grew up around here since you were friends with Whizzo' nephew. It's interesting how many kids (and some adults) find clowns kind of scary.
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BMI (Anonymous) says…

Not sure, but they may have also been talking about his makeup. Old white face was oil base, thick sticky stuff. As to his internal lubrication I cannot attest but it being 'back in the day' it would not surprise me in the least. What am I saying, it would not surprise me today in a child's clown today, nor would a meth habit.

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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

Alia,

“You must be a little slower than most conservatives, because Tom and others have been saying that for sometime. If it comforts you to believe that, go right ahead. :~) It's been a rough past year for you and I think we should allow you that rationale no matter how far off the mark you are. I'm not sure what you mean by “Whizzo in the White House”, could you explain?”

Sounds a little judgmental to me… you are referring to him as slow, if it comforts him to believe something, saying he had a rough last year, allowing him to rationalize….and questioning his term of Whizzo…. I think I stopped counting at five….
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

John, I think you are on to something. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised by your assessment.
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Logan72 (Alia Ahmed) says…

Ronda,

I bet Roe can take care of himself.
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Logan72 (Alia Ahmed) says…

Ronda,

Here's Roe's comment I was responding to. He had made a tongue in cheek comment that liberals (he actually said libtards) consider conservatives a little slow and I, in jest, had pointed out that he was slower than most since Tom and other conservatives had been saying for a while that liberals are threatened by Palin. Again, if Roe wasn't offended by it, why are you? Roe and I have agreed and disagreed on quite a few subjects and I respect his honesty and how non-reactive he is. Mrs. Roe is a lucky lady!

RoeDapple (Anonymous) says…

It is finally dawning on me,(you know how slow witted we conservatives are perceived to be), the libtards must really consider Palin a threat, or why would they make such a fuss over every breath of air she takes? But then, even they must finally realize their 'anybody but Bush' rant is coming back to haunt them with 'Whizzo in the White House'. Hell, after four years of Barry, they might even vote for her!
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jaywalker (Anonymous) says…

Alia,

That's typical for you to go ahead and conclude that I'm a 'conservative', and intellectually lazy to lump people together as 'fellow conservatives'. I have become more conservative as I've matured, but I still hold a number of liberal ideals as well. If it seems that I only call out 'liberals' (which is false) it has more to do with the fact there are oodles more posters with that ideology on these strings than anything else. Also, due to the sheer volume of liberals vs. conservatives here, the left doesn't need my help with representation here. There are more than enough of you railing against them. As for Tom or whomever else you're referencing, when their posts are overwhelmingly repetitious and purposely meant to incite, I generally ignore them.
Your citation of known conservative op-ed columnists as proof the liberal media is a myth…………well, it buggers the imagination. If you can't see the fallacy in that line of reasoning then I gave you too much credit before. You've seemed fairly rational in the past so this surprises me.

“You are naive if you think that publishers don't strongly influence ediitorial content as well as the which news stories the decide to run.”

Now you're just being silly. Sooo, you think Will, Thomas, Krauthammer, et al. would just as easily pen left-leaning columns if their publisher pushed for them? You're losing credibility fast, Alia. Sorry, but I've worked in the newspaper business and the naivete being displayed here is by you thinking these powerful men who are titans in more fields than just media take time out of their day to 'influence' opinion pieces. That's not just naive, it's laughable. Not once was I ever told how to write a piece, nor was anyone that worked beside me.
I've explained this many times, but I do see daily proof of a 'liberal' bias in the media. I don't give a rat's fanny what the RNC, LImbaugh, Hannity, or anyone else say or think, and I listen to none of them. I loathe ideologues. My opinion is mine alone, filtered through my experiences and capacity to read and comprehend what's in front of me. I do NOT believe it's some sort of conspiracy, some design to inflence the electorate, or some scheme plotted by a secret consortium of newsmen. But the number of 'conservative' based major media can be counted on one hand. The left-leaning sources are too numerous to count. Outside of op-ed pieces, news media are supposed to remain detached and print the 'facts'. Unfortunately that's become increasingly rare and agenda's and biases are bleeding through. The past Presidential campaign beheld glaring proof of this. I don't need links attempting to prove or disprove a heavy liberal slant in the media. I read and watch it every single day.
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jaywalker (Anonymous) says…

logicsound,

Good points. I'm not as concerned with the first one you made, I figure if they're actually that good they won't be out of office long, getting re-elected the next time 'round.

The second point really flipped me around, though, because before you brought that up I was thinking the opposite; that we might only get the best of the best potential candidates. Now I think you're closer to the truth, that the pool of candidates would be thinned considerably by such a rule.

Love it when somene can turn me around on an opinion. Happy Fourth to all!
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RoeDapple (Anonymous) says…

It is finally dawning on me,(you know how slow witted we conservatives are perceived to be), the libtards must really consider Palin a threat, or why would they make such a fuss over every breath of air she takes? But then, even they must finally realize their 'anybody but Bush' rant is coming back to haunt them with 'Whizzo in the White House'. Hell, after four years of Barry, they might even vote for her!
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Statements such as these puzzle me. A lot of the articles about Palin have been written by conservative op-ed folk. How is it that “libtards” are making such a fuss over every breath of air she takes when they are not the ones starting the discussions about her?

A great example would be this blog - started by a Palin fan and someone who self-identifies with a conservative view.
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Logan72 (Alia Ahmed) says…

jayhawker says….. I don't need links attempting to prove or disprove a heavy liberal slant in the media. I read and watch it every single day.

Well, it sounds like your mind is made up and no amount of facts will convince you otherwise. The sign of a closed mind is unwillingness to even consider another perspective. I also used to consider you to be fairly rational but your response to my previous post is extremely reactive and over the top.

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del888 (Anonymous) says…

if she can't handle David Letterman, she sure won't be able to handle North Korea, Iraq, Afganistan, etc, etc etc.
She's a quiter and that's all there is to it. BTW, who's Rhonda Miller?
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jaywalker (Anonymous) says…

Alia,

I never said 'my mind's made up', the quote you cited says nothing of the kind. All I said is that I know bias when I read it. I don't know what kind of 'facts' you'd like me to review, but I doubt some sort of study or survey is going to lead me to read and comprehend what I'm seeing differently. The bias I'm talking about comes in the turn of a phrase, the manipulation of vocabulary, the subtlety of language, the way a headline frames a story. If you think you can persuade me to believe what I'm reading isn't actually what I'm reading, go for it, by all means. Logicsound, jonasopines, satirical, notajayhawk and a few others have changed my view on things before, even stuff I'd vehemently stood behind. Like I said to logic above, I love it when someone changes the way I see things. There's nothing I like better (well, that's not entirely accurate) than seeing a mind at work and sensing the transformation of my viewpoint.

And my post was 'extremely reactive and over the top'? Didn't intend that, but I do get out of sorts when someone calls me naive, particularly when my experience with the subject comes with credentials. Nor do I appreciate being lumped into a group or labeled something I am not, and merely due to a rationale that I chose to refute something you'd posted rather than jump on someone else you happen to hold with contempt.
I'm always happy to entertain a new perspective. Calling me closed-minded is not a convincing argument, however.
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bearded_gnome (Anonymous) says…

Alia writes:
whatever choices she sees fit. I definite support her right to “choice” on many levels. I hope she and her family have a more peaceful, less stressful
life than they've experienced in the past 9 months or so.

As a pre-emptive strike, I'll save your friend gnome the trouble of reminding our fellow readers that I wrote a blog about Palin last fall that repeated
gossip about her family (though my blog actually stated upfront that it was gossip), though I'm sure he'll still want to leap on the opportunity to attack
me and invalidate anything I say, especially about this subject. :~)

[and again please note I *don't* misrepresent what she said like Bea does, I've quoted it directly]

Okay Alia, here's a little history for you. read back and you'll see this is true.

yes, you posted that download from Dailykos (only mentioning it because you did) and posted it as if original. the “gossip” wasn't so clear from the text of it, and the ljworld pulled it down quickly. it was a Dailykos smear from before the november election claiming that Sarah's baby was not hers, but was her daughter Bristol's. said that Sarah was lying to cover up and protect her daughter. questioned Sarah's pregnancy.
LJWorld doesn't often pull things, but it did quickly this time.
now, fast forward. on my blog about Latham the teacher, you were well behaved and I noticed that, appreciated it. so, when I referenced the Dailykos smear and it being downloaded to ljworld as if it were a local blog, on Ronda's Sarah Palin “sisters” blog, I *did not* indicate that you were the local culprit. look, you'll see. however, you went off and identified yourself in response on that “sisters” blog.

one does wonder given your behavior how sincerely you really wish well for Sarah Palin and her family, as you were a part, a small part, in the noise and fury whipped up by the far left fringe kooks against Sarah. “more peaceful” … “less stressful” actions speak louder than words.
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bearded_gnome (Anonymous) says…

Noun 1. annalist - a historian who writes annals
or, an Annelist, someone who specializes in Annelids.
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bearded_gnome (Anonymous) says…

Oh Roe,
I'm glad you're giving up the phrase “libtards.” “tards” as in “retards” is not something to be swung around lightly. a matter of respect for the actual people classed as “retarded.” further, it is the kook fringe on the left that uses phrases like conservatards, developturds, etc. we conservatives are better than that. hold your head up high man.

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Byrdstarr,
I heard almost all of Palin's speech. her speech made without teleprompter, and apparently without notes BTW. [rather impressive]
I strongly encourage you to find it and listen/view it, she gives this speech on the shores of the lake by her home. the first few minutes her baby is either in her arms or nearby, plus you can hear birds in the background throughout.
I'm afraid you may be a victim of bias in the analysis of her speech. I agree with the above poster that the basketball analogy seemed a little thin, but her point being that if the team would do better with somebody on the court instead of her, then its best for the team for this particular point guard to step off the court.
I found her speech bright, genuine, warm, and not rambling like the analysts said.

she said that all the false ethics claims against her, including one involving her wearing a coat with a logo on it, cost the state of alaska 2million dollars. that she and her husband had a legal defense bill of half a million dollars.

I too am a bit mystified about the particular reason for her resignation. my sense of what she said is that we will all know soon.
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bearded_gnome (Anonymous) says…

two million dollars worth of fake ethics claims against Sarah, all flushed down the toilet.

kinda sounds like indeed Sarah Palin *is* quite threatening to the left/democrat party and they're literally throwing jello against the wall hoping something will stick.

and, don't bring up her trying to fire her ex-brother-in-law. if you do, then you're saying its okay for a father who's an LEO to take his Tazar home and use it on his son.

and as to the smear about Sarah and abstenance, well name me one teen in america who's perfect. one teen who perfectly follows everything taught by his or her parents?
again, with sad smears like that, it looks like they're rather afraid of Sarah Palin.

personally, I think she resigned in order to travel the country, speak, maybe do a radio/tv show regularly, go and speak to crowds, etc. often she'd go to a city and attract bigger crowds than Mr. Obama. I love how nonrepublicans have all this oh so sincere advice for us republicans regarding Sarah.

She's quite a girl, and yes she's hot.

I'm thinking of doing a blog about Sarah and Maria. [oh you don't know who Maria is?]
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ebyrdstarr (Anonymous) says…

gnome, I watched the entire speech. I was not impressed. It was rambling, nonsensical, and vacuous. It was also illogical. (If she doesn't want to be the typical lame duck milking the state for a paycheck while traveling the world instead of governing the state, well, then don't travel and just continue to govern until your term is up.) Having watched the entire speech, I came away having no idea of why she's quitting.

I'm not the sort to be biased by coverage. I always go directly to the source: read the text, watch the speech, etc. I would not have commented on the speech if I had not seen it. I don't think I have written anything that should lead anyone to believe I hadn't seen the speech.

By the way, gnome, I do not appreciate your use of the word “girl”. She's a grown woman. I may not think she's a good speaker or very knowledgeable but I do think she deserves to be respected.
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Logan72 (Alia Ahmed) says…

jayhawker, I interpreted your comment about not needing to be provided links to prove or disapprove the idea of the liberal media. I'm sorry if I miscontrued your meaning in that statement. I also didn't intend to lump you in the same category as some of the extreme right thinkers that frequent these boards, but truly feel that you are more likely to challenge a more liberal view than a more conservative view. Certainly, some of your comments, which are well-articulated, have lead me to believe you are a conservative at this point in your life. Again, perhaps I've misinterpreted those comments. I don't have anything against someone being conservative, as I've said before, most of my extended family members are conservative.

Gnome, In my “Desperate Alaskan Housewife” blog I clearly stated up front that there was a rumor on the internet about Trig actually being Bristol's son instead of Sarah's. I paraphrased the story posted on DailyKos and provided links to the DailyKos story as well as one or two other links. Prior to the day, I had never heard of the DailyKos and much to my chagrin and regret, I didn't do any research about the legitimacy of that site.

You're right, the LJW has rarely if ever pulled another blog that I'm aware of. There have been many blogs that have besmirched the character of Barack Obama and they have not been pulled. The explanation given to me is that graduates of the Citizen Jouralism Academy are held to a higher standard than others who choose to blog on this site.

In terms of my sincerity about wishing the Palins peace and happiness, you can believe what you want. I disagree with her vehemently about many topics and that likely will not change. I have children and grandchildren and I would hope no one who disagrees with me politically would want them to suffer because of my views and I believe Sarah Palin's children deserve as normal of a life as is possible when one's parent is a high level politician. I asserted that David Letterman's jokes about her daughter(s) as well as Sarah Palin being a slutty flight attendant were crude and out of line just as Rush Limbaugh's and John McCain's crude jokes about Chelsea Clinton were mean-spirited and out of bounds.

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merrill (Anonymous) says…

Sarah Palin is doing this resignation for publicity. She knows some in the media thinks she a bit off so this gives her plenty of free news space and pre campaign space.

So I say cut her off and why not. She's pulling a calculated fast one. If she gets busted for her antics as governor then cover that story.

Sarah Palin is still under investigation in Alaska questioning her ethics as governor in which $300,000 has been spent thus far. Maybe people in Alaska simply want her gone.

HR 676 is far more important than Sarah Palin HR 676 med insurance deserves front page daily.

So does who got away with all of the trillions that broke down the nations economy under GW Bush/Dick Cheney?

Additionally how in the world does the gov't expect college grads to pay back student loans as the failed economic policy of outsourcing USA jobs continues in perpetual motion? Yep milions upon millions of white collared jobs heading to India and Pakistan.

Meanwhile Sarah Palin will be collecting tons of special interest campaign dollars thus further corrupting the voting process thus increasing OUR cost of living across the board.

Special interest campaign dollars usually involve a product such as medical insurance, radioactive coal and nuke power,cars,bogus loans,food or american named products made in China supported with tax breaks and lost american jobs. Then there is always the military industrial complex stealing 50% of every tax dollar.

Special interest campaign money adds to the actual cost of providing a product to the market place in addition to :
• its bureaucracy
• profits
• high corporate salaries
• advertising
* over charges
• sales commissions
• Shareholders !
* Golden parachutes
* Politicians as shareholders to their corporations:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/…

Obviously there more important items in this country than flambouyant, idolized and corrupted politicians. Like why won't americans stand up against special interest corrupt campaign dollars controlling our government?
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logicsound09 (Anonymous) says…

“I'm glad you're giving up the phrase “libtards.” “tards” as in “retards” is not something to be swung around lightly. a matter of respect for the actual people classed as “retarded.” further, it is the kook fringe on the left that uses phrases like conservatards, developturds, etc. we conservatives are better than that. hold your head up high man.”

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Amazing.

You even take an instance of a self-proclaimed conservative using a derogatory term about liberals and some how twist and torture it around so that liberals are the ones truly in the wrong. Your ridiculous bias is pathetic.

Simply amazing.

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“I found her speech bright, genuine, warm, and not rambling like the analysts said.”

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Not suprising, given your willingness to forgive all transgressions by anyone you see as ideologically aligned with your own viewpoint and take to task anyone you see as ideologically opposed, as demonstrated above.

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“I too am a bit mystified about the particular reason for her resignation. my sense of what she said is that we will all know soon.”

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If Palin has a good reason for resigning, then why the wait? A governor resigning merely 60% into their term is a big deal, and one that deserves more explanation than the less-than-concise comments provided by Palin.

As I mentioned earlier, I seem to remember many of Sebelius' opponents taking her to task for “walking out” on her duties as Kansas governor when she was tagged for Obama's cabinet. She not only had a reason, but her reason was to step into another role of service. I have yet to see the same level of criticism leveled towards Palin for walking out on her duties, and without a provided reason to boot.

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“kinda sounds like indeed Sarah Palin *is* quite threatening to the left/democrat party and they're literally throwing jello against the wall hoping something will stick.”

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You are welcome to believe that, but it's far from the truth. Political opponents “threatened” by stepping down as governor? You've got to be kidding.

If anyone's trying to get “something to stick”, it's those who are furiously twisting and turning trying to find a way to spin this as a positive development in the career of a woman who was once viewed as a shooting star in the Republican party ranks.

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“personally, I think she resigned in order to travel the country, speak, maybe do a radio/tv show regularly, go and speak to crowds, etc. often she'd go to a city and attract bigger crowds than Mr. Obama.”

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If true, and you are okay with it, then your bias is far deeper than I ever imagined.

Do you really think it's acceptable for a governor to resign, shirking their duties to the taxpayers that elected them for the purpose of going on a book tour or doing a regular television show?
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Logan72 (Alia Ahmed) says…

gnome says……I'm thinking of doing a blog about Sarah and Maria. [oh you don't know who Maria is?]

Sanford's soulmate or the lead character in either Sound of Music or West Side Story? Perhaps, Sonia Sotomayor who's was called Maria Sotomayor by Mike Huckabee?
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jaywalker (Anonymous) says…

Alia,

Appreciate your comments. And you are right, I am more likely to challenge a liberal view on these forums and am more right than left at this point in my life. My father likes to rib me about the 'transformation' in my political views since I left Lawrence, though I'm proud that I still cling to an amalgamation of political philosophy. There are liberal ideals I'm confident I'll never abandon.
I have no problem challenging a conservative poster on these boards and have done so. Like I said though, they are an extreme minority here and quite often it would be nothing more than piling on. Also, with so many challenges from the left already, everything's been said! Kinda of a 'what would be the point', ya know?
There are many that post here that I've come to completely ignore, the type's that have nothing of value to subject oneself to. Usually I reach that point only after challenging them and drawing them out to their most extreme 'ludicrous-ity' (pulled a W there! :). I may disagree with what you have to say sometimes, Alia, but I know you'll never join that group. Only time you've ever 'wowed' me with something way over the top was with that infamous blog you and gnome just referenced, and I know it was just a cut and paste. I appreciate your viewpoint. Stay cool.
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disgustedagain (Anonymous) says…

What is all this crap about poor Palin being persecuted by the sexist press? Yes, the press is sexist. But the hooha going on right now has to do with her weird language skills and peculiar political behavior, not her gender. Mark Sanford has been getting mercilessly mocked and talked about by blogs and the media as well. But no one is complaining about that (except his poor family) or claiming it is a sexist persecution. Moreover, Jenny Sanford has been behaving with restraint and dignity and handling the press overload with ease. Sarah Palin could learn some lessons from her on how to “shield” her family. If Palin hadn't paraded her family out in the media and gotten Bristol into the national spotlight as a media spokesperson for abstinence, the media would have a lot less to work with. I've barely seen a photo of Jenny Sanford's children and she herself has been quite dignified in her appearances.

“Weary Palin”: Give me a break. From the woman who had the gall to criticize Hillary Clinton for whining about sexism in the media, we have to put up with poor pitiful me posturing!
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

raven, terrific links for some items that are sure to become “collectibles” over time. Maybe I can get some chump change from Corbett to use to purchase some of those items…I could possible even sell them to some of the posters on this site….maybe give them to some of the backyarders as gifts during our gatherings.

Del says, “BTW, who's Rhonda Miller?” Now that is a very good question! I believe tange has asked that question on a daily basis with no resolve in sight. Try “Ronda Miller” and see if that offers up any further insight.

I do think that those of you who refer to me as conservative would change your minds rather quickly if you knew me. I am probably the most accepting, least conservative person around - well, I do hang with ultra conservatives though so maybe this is just comparison quibble…. gnome, and Roe, do we consider ourselves conservative?

Someone quite aptly pointed out that Republicans aren't necessarily more conservative than Democrats and Democrats aren't necessarily more liberal than Republicans.

Ahh, the power of words.

Alia, I notice Roe hasn't felt the need to defend himself…he remembered Palin's words, “Don't explain: your friends don't need it and your enemies won't believe it anyway.” A phrase worth repeating….and I do think of all of you as friends.

I love reading the comments and commend all of you on your writing skills and love of discourse

I hope everyone had a terrific 4th. I took over three hundred shots of the display with my I phone and hope to post them later….bare with me as per usual I am a novice.
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ASBESTOS (Anonymous) says…

She is going after the media;

Think:

“The Sarah Palin American Woman Radio Hour”.
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beatrice (Anonymous) says…

Think “Ronda will be the only woman listening” cancelled radio show.

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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…
“Alia, I notice Roe hasn't felt the need to defend himself…he remembered Palin's words, “Don't explain: your friends don't need it and your enemies won't believe it anyway.” A phrase worth repeating….and I do think of all of you as friends.

http://brandmediaweek.typepad.com/.a/…

She winked at me!

http://dummidumbwit.files.wordpress.c…

I like to think of blogging/posting as like friends sitting around a campfire trading barbs and insults while passing beers and roasting hotdogs. If you are getting too hot, you're sitting too close to the fire…………
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beatrice (Anonymous) says…

“Oh Roe, I'm glad you're giving up the phrase “libtards.” “tards” as in “retards” is not something to be swung around lightly. a matter of respect for the actual people classed as “retarded.” further, it is the kook fringe on the left that uses phrases like conservatards, developturds, etc. we conservatives are better than that. hold your head up high man.”

Bearded, “kook fringe”? Nice way to prove your point about name-calling. if it weren't for name-calling, I'm not sure you would even know how to address those who don't think in lock-step with you. How pathetic for a grown man to constantly stoop to such childish behavior. Simple and pathetic.
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RoeDapple (Anonymous) says…

Good afternoon, bea!
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mike_blur (Mike Blur) says…

Ronda wrote:
“Perhaps she is well enough known that she and family will travel the guest speaker circuit at universities”

Mike writes:
Barf. Any university that hosts Palin as a serious speaker should have its accreditation revoked instantly. Excepting those learning institutions that intentionally present her as a freakish sideshow.

Sarah Palin is a needy attention whore on the level of Paris Hilton or Terrell Owens. She needs the media as much as the media needs her to sell advertising.

I would love to see Tina Fey do her version of the “Sarah Palin Radio Show.”
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ASBESTOS (Anonymous) says…

“Any university that hosts Palin as a serious speaker should have its accreditation revoked instantly.”

Another fine example of censoring at public universities and another fine example of just how left universities are, and a fine example of the “open minded” crowd” being FOS!
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

bea, “Think “Ronda will be the only woman listening” canceled radio show.”

Obviously you have much more interest in listening to anything said by her or about her than I do….and apparently many other people seem to latch on to her every word as well. Now maybe that is so they can put her down so they feel somehow intellectually superior, but it is true nonetheless. I agree with those who have said she must prove to threaten many women and men or the need to attempt to squelch her wouldn't be such a priority.

roe, I saw the entire movie….it was actually fairly good entertainment in a violent sort of way. And I thought she was winking at me…as her sister… ;)

Asbestos, I agree with your assessment exactly. Well stated.
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logicsound09 (Anonymous) says…

“Another fine example of censoring at public universities and another fine example of just how left universities are, and a fine example of the “open minded” crowd” being FOS!”

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Seriously? You're taking the comment of one guy who may or may not have anything to do with an actual university as an example of the political affiliation of *all* universities?

Good lord, talk about intellectually bereft. Not to mention paranoid.

I would take your comments as indicative of all conservatives, but that wouldn't be fair to those of them (and there are many) who actually use that grey crap stuffed between the sides of their skulls.
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mike_blur (Mike Blur) says…

Exactly, logicsound. I made one rhetorical, sarcastic comment about Palin, and both asbestos and Ms. Miller get all defensive and play the victim card, which is the passive-aggressive “fighting” tactic of single-issue Republicans these days.

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disgustedagain (Anonymous) says…

“Now maybe that is so they can put her down so they feel somehow intellectually superior…”

Jeez Louise. Here we go again with the defensive anti-intellectual responses. I hope to God that ANY politician given the responsibilities of public office—much less the Presidency—is damn well smarter than the average Joe/Jane or me. I guess that's why so many of her supporters are responding to her emotionally at some visceral (non-intellectual!) level: they recognize that weird combination of resentment and victimhood. Yes, I feel intellectually superior to Sarah Palin, especially after reading any of her peculiarly incoherent and ungrammatical rants. But no, I don't feel intellectually superior to many of the smart, experienced politicians out there, like Hillary Clinton or Bob Dole. (And I pretty much despise Bob Dole's politics.) Sarah Palin has an exaggerated sense of self and destiny, and that's why she comes across as so ridiculous a good portion of the time. Someone said online that she is a Tracy Flick, and that is exactly right!
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Boston_Corbett (Anonymous) says…

I just think that any Governor/politician that resigns a first term election with half of the first term left, then tries to explain it away as “lame duck,” or as “doing the right thing” has a huge credibility problem. Why not resign after year one? Heck, why even run?

And Ronda, there isn't anything sexist or “putting her down” in that observation. And it is no different than what Karl Rove and many other conservative friends of hers are saying about her, on the record, in print and on air today.

She may hang around and make money as a radio/Fox pundit, or celebrity for her base, but that is all. Not as a public official.
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beatrice (Anonymous) says…

And a good afternoon (or early evening) to you too, RoeD.

Ronda, you do have a point about non-conservatives being interested in Palin. We still can't believe that she was McCain's selection, and we need to make sure such people don't ever get elected to national positions ever again. In the words of the Godfather, keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

However, I would never, ever, listen to her on the radio, just as I don't listen to the right-wing druggie currently on the air. I don't listen to left-wing radio either. I'm much more of a music fan.
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schula (Anonymous) says…

RM – heard from my former sister in law in Anchorage and her take on it is that there must be more to it than what has been said. She wouldn't leave in the middle of her term even if she was a lame duck, just to write an autobiography, there would be plenty of time for that when her term was over. It won't help her political reputation to leave in the middle of a term, so this won't help her run for president.

Remember, these are the views of my former sister in law.
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Logan72 (Alia Ahmed) says…

Roe,

It would be a lively campfire and our conversation would probably be used to spark the fire or at least “flame the fire”. Glad we can banter back and forth. Have a great week.
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

Boston;

“I just think that any Governor/politician that resigns a first term election with half of the first term left, then tries to explain it away as “lame duck,” or as “doing the right thing” has a huge credibility problem. Why not resign after year one? Heck, why even run?”

Possibly because she didn't realize what was going to happen in advance of taking the position since she isn't any more adept at discerning the future than the rest of us seem to be. Not any inherent credibility problem in that…..and I don't think your statement is in the least sexist or that you are putting her down. judging her…yeah, maybe. Let's wait and find out what transpires.

bea, I don't tend to listen to the radio myself so I am in agreement with you on this one. I am sure there would be as many Democrats listening as Republicans though.

schula, So glad you had a chance to visit with your sister-in-law to see what the take from Alaska is and I am sure that varies considerably as well.

Your sister-in-law says she wouldn't resign,”just to write an autobiography, there would be plenty of time for that when her term was over.”

Not if her plans are to stay very busy running for President 'after' she writes the book. She may not have a lot of time built into her schedule.
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RoeDapple (Anonymous) says…

Good night all, somebody pour the leftover coffee and stale beer on the campfire. I'll be up early to fire it back up……

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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

Just promise me you will all stop throwing gun powder into the campfire!

I just noticed your song game, Roe. I'll see what tunes come to mind overnight.

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kansasmutt (Anonymous) says…

Palin is the best thing to happen for the Dems. Thank you Sarah. I smell victory again in 2012 .
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TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…

Why, why, WHY is the left so obsessed with Palin if she is supposedly such a dimwit??!! Two op-ed'ers in the WA Post this morning are obsessing over her. The obsession can not be healthy for liberal Democrats. They have trillions of our dollars that need tending to!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/…

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/…
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

Interesting articles, Mr_Nancy.

I know the thing to do these days when writing for media outlets is to make people (celebrities from all walks of little) seem as unintelligent, unattractive, as possible, but I agree that it is outright relentless when it comes to Palin.

It is disheartening enough to see what has been done to Michael Jackson for decades past, but it seems our country loves nothing more than to make fun of, humiliate, publicly ridicule a successful woman and her family.
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TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…

If any right-wing media/entertainment personality like the obnoxious, east coast elitist Letterman had said the things about a liberal like Letterman did about Palin, they'd be looking for a new line of work.

I still am bewildered as to why, if the lef thinks Palin is such a clueless moron, why can't they get her off their calendars? God forbid if/when she does ramp up the talk circuit, even doing some foreign engagements etc etc, the left's heads will simultaneously explode. What are they afraid of? They say she's just a dummy?
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Logan72 (Alia Ahmed) says…

Tom,

I don't think someone has to be intelligent to be considered dangerous. Look at Scott Roeder, the alleged murderer of George Tiller. He doesn't come off as all that intelligent but clearly believed in vigilante justice.

So liberals fearing Palin's ability to stir up ugly and hateful sentiment isn't related to her intelligence. She is no doubt a charismatic figure. Some of her campaign rallies attracted people with some fairly hateful rhetoric.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10…

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/10/…

http://blog.news-record.com/staff/cap…

http://sarahpalinwatch.blogspot.com/2…

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bad_dog (Anonymous) says…

“I hope everyone had a terrific 4th. I took over three hundred shots of the display with my I phone and hope to post them later….bare with me as per usual I am a novice.”-Ronda

Ronda, does tange know about your more than 300 shots of “the display” and your newly expressed desire for group nudity, i.e. “bare with me”?

Just wondering…

Say cheese! Group hug!
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TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…

“So liberals fearing Palin's ability to stir up ugly and hateful sentiment…”

Thanks for the chuckle, Alia, considering the volumes of vile and offensive comments that have been logged by the left against her and her family. I don't know if you're just sorta kidding with that comment just to get my goat, but I did laugh when I read it. Thanks.
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Boston_Corbett (Anonymous) says…

“Possibly because she didn't realize what was going to happen in advance of taking the position since she isn't any more adept at discerning the future than the rest of us seem to be. Not any inherent credibility problem in that”

So she is just naive? Poor thing.

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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

Yep, along with you, me and the rest of the world!

bad_dog! cute! yep, he knew as he was with me - bare none! I mean, bar none!
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Logan72 (Alia Ahmed) says…

Tom, I'm glad I could give you a chuckle this morning.
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bad_dog (Anonymous) says…

Perhaps we should start a new blog entitled:

“Sarah Palin: No Interest”

Ah yes, much better. Bring on the double entendres!
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Logan72 (Alia Ahmed) says…

Well, as this blog has demonstrated, there is definitely an interest in Sarah Palin. Depending on one's political persuasion, that is either a good or bad thing. People are often more interested in negative than positive events such a train wrecks, the swine flu, Michael Jackson's death. I think it is human nature and she is definitely a controversial figure.
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Valkyrie_of_Reason (Kathy Getto) says…

Ronda: I have been sorely disappointed over the past few weeks with you as I truly thought you were a sincere advocate for women. I respected you as that - still do respect you in many ways, but no longer as a progressive-minded woman who would stand with other women, despite our differences and move forward with strength and unity. I would have never believed you would look at Palin, listen to Palin and say to yourself “she is just like me!” After years of women having to work harder than the men we work with, while keeping our sexuality separate from our professional selves, having Palin come along acting like the sexy secretary who can't type - well, it is disconcerting at best. We should have all learned one thing from Palin's appearance - that it is not enough simply to be a woman to earn another woman's respect or another woman's vote.

If you are definding Palin from misogynist smears not because of her politics, but because that is how feminism works, then I will stand in your corner. It will take some convincing, however.

BTW, I looked for your posts defending Sotomayer, but, alas, there were none.
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Logan72 (Alia Ahmed) says…

Here's what Sarah Palin had to say about Hillary Clinton complaining about the way she was being treated by the media.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA15XU…
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kmat (Anonymous) says…

No one even needs to read a blog Ronda writes on Palin. Ronda is in love with Palin and wishes she could be her. Plain and simple. Time to quit reading Ronda's blogs. You're getting pretty boring, lady. Take your crush on Palin elsewhere.
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

would have never believed you would look at Palin, listen to Palin and say to yourself “she is just like me!”

I certainly don't compare myself with Palin in many ways except that we are both females, enjoyed playing sports, are mothers who put our children first and attempt to keep them with us as much as possible, am pro life, and think McCain should have been our President.

That is about as far as any comparison between the two of us could go. And I have never said I would even vote for Palin….if you read my previous political blogs you would see that I was a huge Hillary fan and switched to the Republican ticket last year because of the treatment of Hillary and my respect for McCain. But judge on….

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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

kmat, what is your need to attack someone because they present a blog about a timely event…. I say I will be watching what happens to Palin with interest as will most of the rest of the world. Nasty attacks are not necessary on either side.
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Valkyrie_of_Reason (Kathy Getto) says…

” I certainly don't compare myself with Palin in many ways except that we are both females,…”

There it is in a nutshell, I think. I, and many other women, I am certain, do not compare themselves to Palin as a woman.

and…

“are mothers who put our children first and attempt to keep them with us as much as possible….”

I, too am a mother, and a grandmother of four. This has been my life's “work” so to speak, but I, again, do not compare myself to Palin as a parent or a grandparent.

So, in your message, you are telling me you do see yourself in Palin. There is nothing wrong with admitting that is there?

As for judgement, you have that very wrong. I respect you for your opinions, just don't respect the way you skirt the real issues of women when pinned down. Not a judgement, I don't have that right.

So, as much as you dislike answering my questions, how about it? Why only defend Palin? Spread your love around.
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

I do timely blogs on most topics, Kathy if you care to notice. I did a Michael Jackson song title game when I first heard about his death.

I am saying we are both women, mothers, pro lifers… supporters of McCain…that is about all we have in common, but twist my meaning since you were not the one to write it.

“That is about as far as any comparison between the two of us could go”…notice the word comparison….
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kmat (Anonymous) says…

Ronda - I wasn't being nasty. I was telling the truth. You are in love with Palin and in your eyes she is the mesiah of your party. To you, she can do no wrong. And this isn't just a blog on a timely event. You present the “biased media” b.s. and your love for her in your blog. You didn't write a news story (going to school for journalism would really help you!!!).

So, you like quitters, huh? Palin has a history of quitting. She quit 4-5 colleges she attended (but she was flunking out of some of them and finally passed microeconomics with a D - yeah we want her leading this country). She quit her job as Chair of the Alaskan Energy Commission (she said she was bored, always has an excuse). Then she quits as gov.

You want to know about Palin? Read some blogs from the Alaskan press. That will give you a good idea of what the people that elected her think of her quitting on them. They aren't happy. She was elected to do a job and she's quitting on the people of Alaska.

And she wouldn't be a lame duck if she hadn't announced already that she wouldn't seek reelection. She chose to be a lame duck now. And lots of elected leaders have actually done a lot when they were lame ducks because they can get stuff done without having to worry about reelection.

What a great role model she is. Don't like your situation - just quit! That will get you far in life.
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logicsound09 (Anonymous) says…

How, exactly, was Palin putting her children first when she dragged them into the spotlight as part of her campaign?

And since you haven't answered Valkyrie's question yet and I'm also curious—why haven't you similarly defended Sotomayor?
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jimmyjms (Anonymous) says…

“I know the thing to do these days when writing for media outlets is to make people (celebrities from all walks of little) seem as unintelligent, unattractive, as possible, but I agree that it is outright relentless when it comes to Palin.”

So, where does Palin come to rest on the spectrum of responsibility here? She said insane things, demonstrated a shocking lack of knowledge or intellect on a wide variety of issues, and has difficulty with the english language…yet any mention of this in the media is an attack?

Another poster did bring up a great point, which, in typical fashion, you have so far ignored: why haven't you been jumping to the defense of Sonia Sotomayor, “progressive feminist” that you are?

Are you really going to claim that the insane line of attack from the right against Sotomayor is any different than the less credible attacks on Palin from the left have been?
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TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…

bennyoates, dare I stick my neck out and risk being heavily ridiculed (so what's new?!) for saying this, but I believe if Palin does “launch” so-to-speak against the current Regime, within a couple years, many, many are going to be very interested in what she has to say in the face of a catastrophic America. I could be wrong, just a thought.
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Katara (Anonymous) says…

justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…
It is disheartening enough to see what has been done to Michael Jackson for decades past, but it seems our country loves nothing more than to make fun of, humiliate, publicly ridicule a successful woman and her family.
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Then I'm sure you were (and still are) equally outraged when those same things happened to Hillary Clinton and Janet Reno, just to name a couple of females that may not share your political beliefs, correct?

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jimmyjms (Anonymous) says…

“She will be an ex-FOX news contributor soon, God willing.”

Oh, now I get it:

One-sided, biased views from the Right = Good job!

One-sided, biased views from any other view along the political spectrum = The Great Satan.

And you wonder why Americans don't identify with the GOP anymore?
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TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…

Comparing Janet “The Destroyer” Reno and Hillary “West Wing/Travelgate/Whitewater/It takes a Village/Rose Law Firm/Wal-Mart board/Tyson Chicken Farm” Clinton to Sarah Palin takes a bit of imagination.
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Logan72 (Alia Ahmed) says…

benny, thanks for the link. That was an interesting interview. It certainly didn't go the direction the Fair and Balanced News anchor had hoped it would go or the way he tried to lead it.
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Valkyrie_of_Reason (Kathy Getto) says…

The tone in which you choose to respond to me, Ronda is very revealing. Could it be due to my calling you out for exploitation of another woman on another blog? No matter. This isn't personal by any means. It is very frustrating when a person writes a blog, participates in the ensuing comments on that blog, pretends to be oh so interested in all veiws, but will not honestly answer intelligent questions from those interested in civil discourse.

When a blogger posts on his/her own blog with ambiguity, it is an affront to the blog's readers and particpants. Is there a benefit? Sure there is. The blogger is unmasked.
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bobwob (Anonymous) says…

DO you even remember that Obama declared we had 56 states??? He also stated that we are not a Christian nation!!! He can correctly state that we are not a muslim nation because we are not…..Sarah Palin sparks so much interest its amazing. She is a Christian and pro life. She stands for the only thing left in this country that is positive!!
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a_flock_of_jayhawks (Anonymous) says…

I had been thinking a few weeks ago that she was going to have to remake herself if she really expected a shot at a higher office. If she plays it right, she just might be able to pull it off, especially given the short memory of most American voters. She would need to make quite a few changes if she plans to succeed the next time out. Even that would be risky because those that love her really *love* her and some changes that might give her a wider base might disappoint her current base. Barring any significant shift in the electorate, she would first have to make a run at appealing to the current set of disenfranchised conservatives in it. With her stated positions, it's not clear that she could even succeed at that, much less get independents to support her. She might be able to do it if she can survive the “which Palin are we getting this time, the old one or the new one” questions. Face it, she doesn't do very well with questions.

The rookie mistakes she made this past year were almost painful to watch and will have to be eliminated. Having previously held a public, elected office, I have been stunned at how many mistakes she made. Personally, I think that she has a TV or radio show in the works. TV would be my best guess given the timing ahead of the next sweeps.
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Katara (Anonymous) says…

a_flock_of_jayhawks (Anonymous) says…
With her stated positions, it's not clear that she could even succeed at that, much less get independents to support her. She might be able to do it if she can survive the “which Palin are we getting this time, the old one or the new one” questions.
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I think this was one of the things that contributed to McCain's loss. People didn't know which McCain would be the President. If it hadn't be his abominable record on womens' issues (voted against pretty significant legislation on equal pay, and general pooh-poohing of issues that are of concern to both working women and SAHMs), I would have considered voting for the McCain I knew in 2000 but there was no way in hell I was voting for the McCain that appeared in 2008.
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ASBESTOS (Anonymous) says…

“Personally, I think that she has a TV or radio show in the works. TV would be my best guess given the timing ahead of the next sweeps.”

That is what I said, and I still think. She is going to take on the media and the Feminist groups.

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Katara (Anonymous) says…

asbestos (Anonymous) says…That is what I said, and I still think. She is going to take on the media and the Feminist groups.
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“When I hear a statement like that coming from a woman candidate with any kind of perceived whine about that excess criticism, or maybe a sharper microscope put on her, I think, 'Man, that doesn't do us any good, women in politics, or women in general, trying to progress this country.” —Sarah Palin, on complaints from Hillary Clinton's campaign about sexist coverage, Spring 2008
http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/sa…

And yet, she couldn't take any criticism about herself in the public sphere and you honestly believe she is going to “take on the media and the Feminist groups”?
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Katara (Anonymous) says…

“If [the media] convince enough voters that that is negative campaigning, for me to call Barack Obama out on his associations then I don't know what the future of our country would be in terms of First Amendment rights and our ability to ask questions without fear of attacks by the mainstream media.” —Sarah Palin, getting First Amendment rights backwards while suggesting that criticism of her is unconstitutional, radio interview with wmal-am, Oct. 31, 2008
http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/sa…

But it is mean and sexist to question her or her associations.
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Katara (Anonymous) says…

Q: Where do you stand on the Ledbetter Fair Pay Act?

A: I’m absolutely for equal pay for equal work. The Ledbetter pay act—it was gonna turn into a boon for trial lawyers who, I believe, could have taken advantage of women who [would] allege discrimination many, many years ago. Thankfully, there are laws on the books, there have been since 1963, that no woman could be discriminated against in the workplace in terms of anything, but especially in terms of pay. So, thankfully we have the laws on the books and they better be enforced.

Q: Why should a fear of lawsuits trump a woman’s ability to do something about the fact that women make 77 cents for every dollar a man makes?

A: There should be no fear of a lawsuit prohibiting a woman from making sure that the laws that are on the books today are enforced. I know in a McCain-Palin administration we will not stand for any measure that would result in a woman being paid less than a man for equal work.
http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Sarah…

Note: McCain voted against the Ledbetter Act (stating that women just needed more education and training in order to get better pay) and Palin seems to have forgotten that women could be fired based on their childbearing abilities until 1979 (not 1963) Pregnancy Discrimination Act was passed.
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a_flock_of_jayhawks (Anonymous) says…

asbestos (Anonymous) says…

“She is going to take on the media and the Feminist groups.”

She's going to need more than luck for that. As far as rookie mistakes, taking on the media was one of them. Alienating women's rights would turn the lights out completely on her political future, but maybe earn her some bucks on the right wing circuit. I think she's just figuring out exactly how to cash in on this gift that mysteriously landed in her lap. Can't say I blame her. It won't be long before the window of opportunity for that passes and she becomes a “remember her?” party joke.
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Calliope877 (Anonymous) says…

a_flock_of_jayhawks (Anonymous) says…

“It won't be long before the window of opportunity for that passes and she becomes a “remember her?” party joke.”

Let's hope she's only a flash-in-the-pan. Her 15 minutes of fame expired a looooong time ago.
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Boston_Corbett (Anonymous) says…

Palin was able to accomplish some good things in her legislature the first two years as a virtual anti-Republican populist outsider that she had painted herself as. She teamed up with Alaska Democrats to do this. But then she accepted McCain's offer last year and had to act like a Republican on the national stage. She couldn't dump on national Republican officials like she had on the Alaska ones.

But then, she had to go back home after November.

Guess what, the Alaska Dems no longer had *any* interest in helping her out anymore, and she had long ago torqued off most Alaska Republican officials.

This year she was little more than a celebri-Governor without any legislative friends. A Governor without a party or legislative coalition. She was largely absent from the session. Hiding from the media like a Holywood celebrity. Rarely seen around the Capitol. Instead “Palin Sightings” became news. Pretty pathetic in a low population state. Her approval ranking from Alaskans tanked.

She could barely get a cabinet appointment of her own confirmed this year. She couldn't accomplish anything. She had to face the fact every morning that she was, quite ineffectual. And the nation was now watching.

So, she just quit and sold out. It's that simple. She can make money from the after-dinner NRA and right-wing speech circuit, write a book and do a talk show. And that way she is no longer a public national spectacle of her own incompetence. And can make some real money.

Heat…Kitchen.

She isn't a leader. Or a particularly successful public official. Or credible. But she's worked in front of a TV camera. Knows how to dress well. These things combined is what makes a good pundit after all, isn't it?

If that is “increased interest” Ronda, so be it. You'll be able to watch her on TV, maybe Fox News or CNN more. Neat. Wowie. She can remain the darling of the pro-life lobby. But it isn't going to make her more credible one iota, or is this conduct which will get her elected to anything.
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

I enjoy reading your view point on all, Corbett. Quite interesting and I agree with much of what you say.

Did you catch Letterman's comments about her last night? He seemed a bit sober faced up front, but once he got the word Palin out of his mouth, he continued on the roll. I think there were at least two or three people who applauded loudly…were you there? I know you are able to make a lot of noise with just your own two hands…..

Regardless of what Palin ends up doing…I will be watching with interest as will many people of political and non political affiliations. Fifteen minutes of fame….she has had much, much more than that and it isn't over yet as long as Letterman keeps giving her free fame power and publicity. Maybe he gets a cut in future earnings. ;)
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ASBESTOS (Anonymous) says…

If her “15 minutes are up” why doe the media still cover her?

Why were there CNN reporters with her on her fishing boat?
I would love to see some of the eastern Kansas Liberals cry babies do what she did that day:

Fishing with nets for sockeye salmon. That is some tough work, but it seems as if the Larryville Kansans have no clue of anything outside their little city or state.

There is a big world out there.

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Boston_Corbett (Anonymous) says…

Sarah Palin: “As I thought about this announcement, that I wouldn‘t run for re-election, and what that means for Alaska, I thought about, well, how much fun some governors have as lame ducks. They maybe travel around their state, travel the other states, maybe take their overseas international trade missions. So many politicians do that.

“And then I thought, that‘s what‘s wrong. Many just accept that lame duck status and they hit the road, they draw a paycheck, and they kind of milk it. And I‘m not going to put Alaskans through that. I promised efficiencies and effectiveness.”
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So who is “hitting the road and drawing a paycheck?” Stay tuned.
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logicsound09 (Anonymous) says…

“I promised efficiencies and effectiveness.””

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And apparently the best way she can be “efficient and effective” for the Alaskan people is to be absent.

Draw your own conclusions…
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Boston_Corbett (Anonymous) says…

Sarah Palin hates the mainstream media so much and her message is so impeded by its bias, that she invited reporters from the major networks to join her at her family's private fishing grounds over the weekend, so she could talk about her resignation, you know, some more.

Over the weekend television correspondents lined the shores of Alaska's Bristol Bay Lake to interview the Governor in her fishing waders.

In an interview with Andrea Mitchell, the Governor made it seem that her decision to leave office was predetermined on the day she was selected by John McCain to run as his running mate. That was over ten months ago.

Palin said: “I knew that day I wasn't going to run for re-election….I knew that everything changed on August 29. ….things changed and it was quite obvious nothing would be the same for my administration”

So why did it take her until July 3 to announce all these changes she knew would happen ten months ago? Or at least last November? Especially since her stated reason now is to save Alaska taxpayers the money it is costing them to investigate her alleged ethics violations.
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Boston_Corbett (Anonymous) says…

In failing to announce earlier, that what she said she already knew…that she would not run again, she went through an entire legislative session as a “lame duck” as she defines it. (a definition with which I disagree, but I digress)

So instead, she went into hiding, becoming a ghost in the State Capitol and State Capital. She neutering herself to a point where should could hardly get a cabinet official confirmed. She accomplished little.

But she explained over the weekend, she already had known for *months* she would not run again. Since the day she was selected to run as VP.

So by her own definition and admission, since last November at the least, in her own words, she has been “accepting her lame duck status” and “milking it.”
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Boston_Corbett (Anonymous) says…

Sarah Palin criticized basic science research using fruit-flies during the campaign.

She must have skipped that biology course in high school.

And not seen this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK…

Or read this:

http://www.salon.com/env/feature/2008…
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

You're on a roll now, Corbett. Need some butter! :)

We all have had knowledge of plans (even a pregnancy) well in advance, but don't feel the need to broadcast it until the date approaches. I don't begrudge her keeping her actions private until such time that she has time to discuss them with those important to her - like most of us that is probably friends and family.

Rock on, Sarah. I am in love with you…….apparently.
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logicsound09 (Anonymous) says…

“We all have had knowledge of plans (even a pregnancy) well in advance, but don't feel the need to broadcast it until the date approaches.”

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Seriously? First of all, a pregnancy is a personal issue that isn't necessarily *anyone* else's business, while a decision on resigning or fulfilling the duties of publicly-elected office is of concern to everyone who voted for you or is represented by you.

Second, what about BC's point that it took 6 months (according to her own comments) to “discuss [the decision] with those important to her”?

Third, and possibly of most concern is the contradiction inherent in her claim that she refused to “accept lame duck status” and draw a paycheck even though she was doing just that?
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

I disagree. I think there is absolutely no reason to give more than a couple of weeks or a month's notice to a job (in government or otherwise) even if she was aware she would leave that position ten months previously.

Some decisions require a lot more time to discuss than others…surely you have all had matters arise in your life that took more than a moment's decision. If she would have made the decision quicker, then she would have been put down for that as well. It is a no win for her these days, let's face it.

She wasn't doing that…(being a lame duck) purposely.She was trying to fulfill her role and when she saw she could not, she respectfully resigned….nothing wrong with that. It seems to be happening in Lawrence via certain positions today oddly enough.

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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…

“It is a no win for her these days, let's face it….”

( hmm, I'd finish that thought for you, but I guess it's implied )
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r0HTV…
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dYP4K…
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Boston_Corbett (Anonymous) says…

Ronda says: “I disagree. I think there is absolutely no reason to give more than a couple of weeks…”

Ronda, perhaps normally not, (except I would argue strongly a different standard does indeed exist for elected officials)

But even assuming your world's rules, or lack of rules, she in her own words last week articulated this a reason as her justification for resigning. It is a condition *she* created and *she* defined. She has created the reason by using it as her justification.

In her own words: “I thought about, well, how much fun some governors have as lame ducks… .So many politicians do that. And then I thought, that‘s what‘s wrong.”

The lame duck status she points to, she has known about for ten months. If she now adopts this reason to resign now, it should have always applied to her. Otherwise, the reason she expresses now has absolutely no meaning.
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Boston_Corbett (Anonymous) says…

Ronda says: “She wasn't doing that…(being a lame duck) purposely.She was trying to fulfill her role and when she saw she could not, she respectfully resigned”
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This makes no sense.
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…

What doesn't make sense about it Corbett? It makes perfect sense to me.

What is the “appropriate” time for elected officials in terms of resignation in your mind? There are numerous reasons - not dissimilar to those of us in a public field where such an occasion might occur. Physical health, concerns over family, a better offer…….inability to do the job as they would desire to.
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logicsound09 (Anonymous) says…

Ronda,

You sarcastically comment that you “are in love with” Palin “apparently”, but it's ridiculously apologetic posts like your 4pm that give people that impression.

I seriously doubt you would be contorting yourself so to forgive Obama, for example, were he to up and walk out on his duties to the taxpayers.

1) Palin said that she is leaving because she decided not to seek re-election and did not want to become a lame duck. The inevitable conclusion of this logic is that a governor who continues to remain in office with the knowledge that they will not seek re-election is a lame duck

2) Palin also said that she knew the second she was tabbed by McCain that she wasn't going to run for re-election.

There is an unavoidable disconnect there. Either she didn't actually know she wasn't going to seek re-election when she claims she did or she is misleading everyone about the motives behind her decision to step down, giving some odd reasoning about avoiding lame-duck status instead of a solid justification. Either way, she's being dishonest. I really don't understand your eagerness to play the role of apologist for Palin, especially given your assertion that you have no specific loyalty to her. That also strikes me as dishonest.

To answer your latest question—an elected official should make their intention to resign public as soon as reasonably possible after they come to that decision. While we can argue over allowing days or weeks to pass as “appropriate” (as you point out, delicate situations can take time to deal with—I understand and agree with that), I think it's entirely reasonable to declare 10 months as inappropriate.

The whole thing strikes me as someone saying whatever they think will stick so as to avoid having to give any real basis for her decision. Much how you seem to be saying whatever you think will fly to defend Palin, rather than actually looking at the situation with a critical eye.
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Boston_Corbett (Anonymous) says…

What Logicsound said.

Keep that wallet nearby.

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Martini_Boy (Anonymous) says…

Polli monkeys love having a hayday on something they can only speculate on. It's so funny. have another drink