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Obama: “Pal(e) in” Comparison?
Well, she did it! Sarah Palin not only hit a home run last night at the Republican National Convention, she hit a ball that is traveling around the world!
Palin showed spunk, credibility, intelligence, stamina and a great sense of humor - the latter of which may be the single most effective trait she has going for her as she makes her way into the final two months of debates before the November 4th election.
Dare I say that Obama is "Pal(e) in" comparison to Palin's experience with proof of her effectiveness as a leader. And McCain has chosen a "Pal in" choosing a woman who not only appears to be every bit as strong an advocate for the women's rights she believes in as is Hillary.
Bravo, Sarah! I for one can hardly wait to see more of your unique all American family.
What did you think of our new Republican VP pick and last night's speech?
How well do you feel she will stand up to the fishbowl scrutiny of the news media?
Who will do the best job at upcoming debates: Palin or Biden?
4 September 2008
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SusieCreamcheeze (Anonymous) says…
What I think would be removed by the Journal World.
4 September 2008
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…
I could see myself endorsing *Michael* Palin.
[ wink, wink… nod, nod ]
4 September 2008
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bad_dog (Anonymous) says…
She can read, but can she lead?
4 September 2008
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1029 (Anonymous) says…
Is this sarcastic? Or is Rhonda Miller really this stupid?
The speech was designed well for the crowd, but was not spectacular by any means. It was a rally speech, and anyone with even an average level of intelligence—Republican or Democrat—has to admit that there was very little substance to it.
As far as women's opinions, I have only heard four so far and they all agreed that to assume that any woman would be moved by her speech would be to assume that women are stupid and will vote for any woman, no matter how unqualified or inexperienced that candidate is.
What I am hearing most of all are opinions about the insulting remarks about the noble endeavor of community organizing. Is there something wrong with bringing people together to collectively work towards improving their neighborhoods and living situations? Why was community organizing made out to be a laughable endeavor? Perhaps people are supposed to remain docile and accept what their leaders say? Or accept that their landlord has put off fixing their heat for almost an entire winter, and accept that it has been decided that adequate police presence for certain areas is too costly. For Guiliani to insult community organizing and snicker about it was one thing, but for Palin to essentially repeat his remarks was just re-emphasizing an insult to everyone not born into privledge, and was disappointing because it illustrated her lack of understanding of how people live in more densly-populated areas. I support McCain, but bravo to Obama for the work he did for people who lacked equality of opportunity. The scenes of old, rich white people laughing after Guiliani' s community organizer “joke” were sickening. I just which Palin had been able to see that and recognize that she didn't have to stoop to that level.
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ReadingSports (Anonymous) says…
“I could see myself endorsing *Michael* Palin.”
I'm more of a Curly fan myself…
Ohh, wise guy… Boink…
4 September 2008
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OhHai (Anonymous) says…
Just because we share the same parts doesn't mean I will automatically vote for her. I think that Biden will eat her alive in the debates.
4 September 2008
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ilovelucy (Anonymous) says…
Rhonda, Rhonda, Rhonda…women's rights? Surely you are kidding!
Abstinence instead of sex education? Study results of states that advocate abstinence instead of education (Texas) and states that advocate education instead of abstinence (ca).
Rhonda, Rhonda, Rhonda…I thought you were smarter than this. Shame on you!
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duplenty (Anonymous) says…
If Rhonda Miller is this dim, she shouldn't have a blog.
“And McCain has chosen a “Pal in” choosing a woman who not only appears to be every bit as strong an advocate for the women's rights she believes in as is Hillary. ”
What?
4 September 2008
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towanda54 (Anonymous) says…
I didn't watch or listen to her speech, but I also don't watch WWE wrestling for the same reason. :~)
4 September 2008
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verity (Anonymous) says…
Something has been bothering me, and an article I was reading this morning put it very well.
To paraphrase–Gov. Palin is using her dysfunctional family as being the poster child for family values.
I would disagree that she hit a home run. More like a foul ball.
I don't know who wrote her speech, but apparently the fact checking was faulty.
4 September 2008
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3crookedhearts (Anonymous) says…
I can't support anyone who thinks a girl who is raped or has sex with a family member should be legally obligated to have that child. This is Sarah Palin's genuine viewpoint. She opposes abortion rights for women/girls that are raped or are victims of incest. In every case. No exception. I can't support ANYONE who has that opinion. Sorry.
4 September 2008
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Haiku_Cuckoo (Anonymous) says…
“If Rhonda Miller is this dim, she shouldn't have a blog.”
In other words people who have different views than yours should be censored.
Wow. Just…wow.
4 September 2008
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duplenty (Anonymous) says…
I didn't say anything about views, and I didn't say that anyone should be censored.
But when someone who ostensibly wants to be taken seriously says Sarah Palin is “every bit as strong an advocate for the women's rights she believes in as is Hillary “, you have to question if this person should be given the opportunity to have a blog in the local daily.
4 September 2008
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beatrice (Anonymous) says…
Some liked the speech. Some also think a Twinkie counts as a meal.
There was no substance to the talk. Oh sure, she was able to effectively read some clever jokes and sarcastic remarks about Obama and point out that John McCain was a war hero. Shocking.
And she spoke of her time in the PTA and of her husband's mad skills on a snowmobile. Sure, let's make her vp. No, there was nothing to learn from Sarah Palin. Nothing on economics, nothing about her supporting earmarks for Alaska and now running with McCain who is against earmarks, nothing about the fact that the money to the “Bridge to Nowhere” was still spent in Alaska.
Speaking of the bridge, when Democrats talk of Wasilla, Alaska, we are told we are being condescending just because we point out it is a small town with little diversity, however, nobody bats an eye when the governor of Alaska calls the town of Ketchikan, Alaska “Nowhere.” I wonder how the people in Ketchikan like being called “Nowhere” again and again and again by their own governor?
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jhwk2008 (Anonymous) says…
Carl Rove doesn't even think Palin has experience.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/ind…
4 September 2008
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eileenroddy (Eileen Roddy) says…
The responses to Ronda's blog remind me why I rarely discuss politics in America. If we want to disagree with an expressed opinion, that is one thing, but attacking the person who expresses the opinion is quite another.
What happened to civilized dialogue?
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tony88 (Anonymous) says…
great link jhwk2008… masterpiece
4 September 2008
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powershopper (Anonymous) says…
eileenroddy - This is civilized dialogue. I believe what those on this thread are attempting to point out is that Palin REALLY is the antithesis of women's rights and to say otherwise is, well, pretty ignorant.
Palin speech was completely vacuous, and filled with typical right wing-nut rhetoric. Not once, did she say anything about reform to get the United States foreign policy and economy back on track. If she really thinks reform is firing the chef and putting a private jet on ebay then we should all be scared. And what is with McCain? He looked like he could barely stand up on his own when he walked out on stage?
4 September 2008
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towanda54 (Anonymous) says…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfnS26…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwDCZJ…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1o68V…
Why can't we be civilized like the rest of the world?
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jaywalker (Anonymous) says…
Ronda, I agree with you on Sarah's speech last night. She was fantastic and is exactly what the McCain campaign needed.
I appreciate your blogs because normally people are much more respectful on the strings to follow than off LJW news pieces. Sorry you have to be subjected to the likes of duplenty and his ilk. Take no offense, there's nothing wrong with voicing your opinion in this regard. Unfortunately, there are way to many of the far far left that refuse to look at things impartially on such matters.
4 September 2008
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ReadingSports (Anonymous) says…
Powershopper,
“eileenroddy - This is civilized dialogue. I believe what those on this thread are attempting to point out is that Palin REALLY is the antithesis of women's rights and to say otherwise is, well, pretty ignorant.”
So, it's civilized to call those that disagree with you ignorant…
Glad that's straightened out.
4 September 2008
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verity (Anonymous) says…
duplenty
It reads “… appears to be every bit as strong an advocate for the women's rights she believes in as is Hillary.”
I think the operative words here are “… rights she believes in …” My question is what rights for women does she believe in?
4 September 2008
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…
eileen and jaywalker - thanks for your kindess and support of my rights to express an opinon. I too find it disappointing that others with differing views feel the need to resort to name calling when they disagree. There are a lot of ways to express your views without resorting to acting childish.
1029,
“Is this sarcastic? Or is Rhonda Miller really this stupid?”
Take it however you wish, but it is actually Ronda Miller. Thanks!
susie, feel free to email your views to me - you know I won't boot you.
Women's rights to me are about being strong enough to stand up and express your thoughts, feelings, ethics, morals and to live by them regardless of what others around you think. That might mean carrying a child with Down's Syndrome to term, or staying no to a vote in Iran that allows your husband to have more than one wife. I would say Sarah is a woman who believes in her convictions and supports a family that is a pretty normal family by today's standards. A dysfunctional family it is not.
3crookedhearts, I can not support a man who is for an unborn babies brains to be sucked out “partial birth”. I am confused about when it is okay to kill a child, or an adult, or an elder. Oh, I remember now; as long as the child is still partly inside the mother it is okay and as long as the child has any physical or mental disabilities then that is also an acceptable reason to kill it. Gottcha!
4 September 2008
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powershopper (Anonymous) says…
Readingsports - Ignorant and Stupid have two different meanings. Ignorant is simply a lack of knowledge of a subject. For instance, most feminist believe that they should have the right to choose, a la pro-choice. In otherwords, Rhonda comparing Palin's platform to feminism is, for lack of a better term, ignorant.
Stupid is not knowing what ignorant really means. You can figure that out for yourself though, right Readingsports?
4 September 2008
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…
verity: the right to work, to have children who others might choose to kill and to fight for that child's right to be alive, to be strong enough to not be bothered by her husband's choice to stay at home, to stand beside one of the greatest men of all times as his VP choice.
By the way, McCain didn't look the least bit frail to me - how his mother, who must be in her 90's looked a little frail. He might just surprise you but living as long, or longer, than his mother. And as far as talk about his cancer and Palin begin one heartbeat away from the Presidency - isn't cancer usually a fairly slow death?
4 September 2008
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powershopper (Anonymous) says…
Ronda - The point you are missing is that there is a difference between “stand[ing] up and express[ing] your thoughts, feelings, ethics, morals and to live by them regardless of what others around you think.” and supporting initiatives to take that right away from others.
At the end of the day can you honestly say that Palin's political platform is in the best interest of women, and more importantly, feminism?
4 September 2008
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duplenty (Anonymous) says…
“I appreciate your blogs because normally people are much more respectful on the strings to follow than off LJW news pieces.”
That's right. “Respectful” like jaywalker:
“Aah, bea, ignorant to the last, eh? What I'd prefer is to not be subjected to your useless postings. ”
“And it's nauseating to hear you harp on the same tired lines.”
“And I'm the one that needs to get money back for my education? An opinion piece from the AP? That's what this is, huh? Fine junior. ”
“Your inability to comprehend the way these things have been manipulated is exactly why the term 'sheeple' has entered the lexicon. ”
And that's just today. I guess “respect” goes only as far as a similar world view, eh jay?
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ilovelucy (Anonymous) says…
Rhonda: do you not believe that a woman has a right to choose in every aspect of her life?
With due respect, because I usually enjoy your blogs, I'm confused by what you consider women's rights. Are you saying that women can choose to work, to stay at home, but not have other choices?
Thanks-Lucy
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3crookedhearts (Anonymous) says…
So Ronda, am I to assume you are as vehemently opposed the death penalty as you are abortion for the case of women who are raped?
4 September 2008
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jaywalker (Anonymous) says…
crookedhearts: ” can't support anyone who thinks a girl who is raped or has sex with a family member should be legally obligated to have that child. This is Sarah Palin's genuine viewpoint. She opposes abortion rights for women/girls that are raped or are victims of incest. In every case. No exception. I can't support ANYONE who has that opinion. Sorry.”
I've heard this repeated time and again, but have been unable to find a link where Pallin ever states this opinion. Does anyone have such? Also, in regards to her pro-life stance, from what I've seen she's not prone (can't say 'never' cuz I can't find enough evidence) to pontificating or even using it in her campaigns. As I understand it she states that she believes in the pro-life position, but that's as far as it goes.
I write this in hopes that if anyone knows it to be false they'll provide some sort of evidence one way or the other.
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ReadingSports (Anonymous) says…
Our host's name is spelled Ronda…
Glad to address your ignorance, wouldn't want you to appear stupid, but I'm sure you'll take the observation in a civilized way.
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rachaelisacancer (Anonymous) says…
“And McCain has chosen a “Pal in” choosing a woman who not only appears to be every bit as strong an advocate for the women's rights she believes in as is Hillary.”
Ronda - Just what women's rights does Palin believe in?
The right for a woman to be raped by her uncle and forced to carry the child to term? The right of a woman to earn 77 cents to every man's dollar? The right of a woman to be told by the government what exactly to do with her fetus? The right of a single woman to have to work two full-time jobs to support her children without assistance from the government? The right of a mother to see her sons and daughters sent off to fight the bogus Iraq war when Palin herself says, “I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq.”? The right of a young woman to know nothing about condoms but have full knowledge of the joy of AIDS?
Really Ronda - what “women's rights” does Sarah Palin believe in?
4 September 2008
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powershopper (Anonymous) says…
Come on Readingsports! Is that all you got??!!
4 September 2008
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3crookedhearts (Anonymous) says…
Here you go jaywalker:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09…
The quote is, “I would oppose [abortion] even if my daugher was raped.”
There are many others out there like it. Google: Palin stance on abortion.
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…
3crookedhearts (what an interesting name by the way). I am against all types of killing: the death penalty, bombing innocents in Iraq, abortion, stray kittens - I love life and respect it and don't believe I (or anyone else) has the right to kill another. (Yeah, yeah, there is that time I killed the spider that Paul asked me if I feel guilty about. And I do - that is why I thought I heard it screaming.)
Now you are asking some questions - thank you for being that kind and humane. It is through open discussion that we learn why others feel the way they do. It may not change our way of thinking, but we might just learn that their reasons are every bit as good as our own for thinking the way they do.
As a Life Coach I am trained not to judge other people - you, susie,eileen, were not raised the way I was raised so we don't have the same value system. That doesn't mean my values are any less valid than yours, or that yours are less valid than mine. Just different. This is one major reason I think the times we have gone into another country to impose our lifestyle and/or belief system is wrong. While I agree there have been times that are justified to go into a country to save people from being slaughtered, I don't believe we should be bombing, and killing people at random. How does our doing it make it any more correct than their doing it?
Continue onward! I love reading your comments. Well, err, as long as they don't say I am stupid.
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tony88 (Anonymous) says…
jaywalker,
palin: “I am pro-life. With the exception of a doctor's determination that the mother's life would end if the pregnancy continued.”
http://www.webcitation.org/5aY59rbm5
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…
tony, thanks!
4 September 2008
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ASBESTOS (Anonymous) says…
“She can read, but can she lead?”
The same can be said for “Captian Teleprompter” Obama.
Check out the Rasmussen polls “before” Palins big nite.
These number will only get better, and the poll also shows the massive media bias. The only ones that do ont believe it are the Obama asupporters and the MSM.
If you can read, read the entire article.
“the media bias is worse on the election than big coropration donations.”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/rasmussen/200…
4 September 2008
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stuckinthemiddle (Anonymous) says…
if you want the inside scoop on Palin's experience run and google search on “Anne Kilkenny”
4 September 2008
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stuckinthemiddle (Anonymous) says…
my impression is that Palin is not only a scary politician but also a rather horrid person…
and I felt this way before I read what Kilkenny has to say…
she just made it more obvious…
4 September 2008
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stuckinthemiddle (Anonymous) says…
I still think that there's a good chance that she'll have to step down in the next week or so…
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ReadingSports (Anonymous) says…
“Come on Readingsports! Is that all you got??!!”
Nana-nana boo-boo, you big meanie head??
Sorry, elementary school was a long time ago. I don't do well with childish taunts.
Ronda, apparently you have failed an ideological heresy test. Prepare to be covered in oil and fried at the steak.
Don't you know that feminists must be pro-choice!!
I like mine with A-1!!!
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3crookedhearts (Anonymous) says…
Good to know, Ronda. It's the people who are violently opposed to abortion but are adamantly in favor of the death penalty that concern me.
Thanks for saying that I'm being kind and humane. I guess that's the only way I know how to be. I wouldn't call someone stupid to their face, so why would I do it on a message board? I think that internet name calling is one of the most cowardly forms of insult that exist.
Here's the thing about abortion:
1.) Right now, it's legal (Federally)
2.) If it weren't legal (Federally) people would go to Canada to have them, or would have them in the barn, Dirty Dancing style. It should be the function of the government to ensure the safety of all Americans and I can only assume having an abortion in the basement is not always going to be that safe. But I digress. I love lawrence!!!!
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bad_dog (Anonymous) says…
“And as far as talk about his cancer and Palin begin one heartbeat away from the Presidency - isn't cancer usually a fairly slow death?”
Ronda-I'd suggest you ask Gene Upshaw, former Executive Director for the NFL Players Association about slow deaths from cancer-if you could.
Mr. Upshaw was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer on August 17, 2008 and died on August 20, 2008. While pancreatic cancer is a particularly lethal form of cancer, it's not unusual to die from cancer within 6-12 months after diagnosis. It's also not unusual to linger for months/years while undergoing chemo and radiation therapy; treatments that often render a person unable to perform their occupations due to nausea and fatigue.
I'm equally concerned about McCain's family history significant for early death from cardiac disease. McCain's father died at age 70 and his grandfather died at 61-both from heart attacks.
As for the vitriol contained on these boards, it is an unfortunate aspect of social interaction today. I trust, however, you will discover being an “e-arse” is not the specific domain of one ideology over another. The LJW's board is a lot more user friendly than the KC Star for example. Registered user names, although still affording the opportunity for anonymity if desired, provide greater protection from the all out hate-filled name calling resident in many other electronic posting formats.
Have a good day.
4 September 2008
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powershopper (Anonymous) says…
Readingsport, I am just trying to engage you in some spirit debate and the only thing you can come up with is a spelling error? Of a person's name on top of that.
Then you respond again with “Nana-nana boo-boo?” Huh?
4 September 2008
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stuckinthemiddle (Anonymous) says…
another good google search is “peggy noonan sarah palin” to catch a candid veiw of Palin from the long-time conservative Reagan speech writer Noonan… when she thought the microphones were off…
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logicsound04 (Anonymous) says…
“I still think that there's a good chance that she'll have to step down in the next week or so:”
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I would have agreed until Mitt Romney's evil twin got up on stage last night and went on a rant about “evil liberals”.
He couldn't have possibly sounded more insane.
Who else could he pick? Mike Huckabee?
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stuckinthemiddle (Anonymous) says…
logicsound04
I don't think that Romney or Huckabee were ever considered by McCain… I think a different governor… or maybe a different woman… like Kay Bailey Hutchison…
I just think an awful lot of stuff is surfacing with Palin and there's going to be more…
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bad_dog (Anonymous) says…
“The same can be said for “Captian Teleprompter” Obama.”-Asbestos
The Right's oft published position on Obama's oratory skills was the basis for my comment “Captain Asbestos”. Palin did a good-no excellent job of reading and presenting a speech written for her. She did the same thing as a sportscaster, albeit somewhat less enthusiastically ;-) The VP position, however, requires more than mere narrative skills.
I'll reserve final judgment regarding Palin's leadership capacity until seeing how she performs when called upon to speak extemporaneously-same as Obama.
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sdinges (Anonymous) says…
Wow Ronda, the conversations associated with your blogs are usually much more civil than how this started out! Hopefully this one will correct itself.
McCain has stated that he wishes for Roe v Wade to be overturned and for the choice to come down to the states. He has also said that he believes that for danger to a woman's life, and victims of rape and incest there should be choice, and he has delicately said that he's like to reword the Republican Platform to say so (has not yet put much effort into it though).
Has Palin actually stated that she wishes abortion to be illegal for incest and rape? She said in the above linked article that she would support abortion when the mother's life is at risk. And she said she would oppose her daughter getting an abortion if raped. Can anyone provide a link to her stating she wants to criminalize abortion in cases of rape or incest? I would truly like to know for sure.
I'm not one hundred percent comfortable with Roe v Wade being overturned - but I could live with it if choice were federally mandated for rape, incest, threat to life, and from there the States made their own choice.
As for Palin's performance? She did what she needed to. She was likable, easy to relate to, identified herself as a “working class hero” in comparison to elite Obama, appeared confident, strong, etc. As long as she keeps it like this, she could really help McCain.
Someone mentioned the community organizing jabs - their function was to mock liberals (and possibly Obama himself) for saying that being a small town mayor is not experience, but being a community organizer is. It was an underhanded (and I thought clever) way to continue to undermine Obama's experience, while elevating her own.
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tony88 (Anonymous) says…
saying that one would only accept abortion in the event the pregnant woman's life is in danger is tacitly saying that one would not accept abortion in the event of rape or incest, unless the woman's life is in danger.
likable? i thought she was mean and she lied quite a bit. i'm not sure how you define likable though.
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ASBESTOS (Anonymous) says…
“Palin did a good-no excellent job of reading and presenting a speech written for her.”
Here is a newsflash for you, most all politicians have speech writers, even Obama. It is true that Obama writes much of his speeches, but Biden et al, (clinton et al) all have speech writers.
It seems as if only men can have speech writers, but if the politician is a woman, she has to write her own speech.
Is that what you are saying? A different standard for a woman?
Is that your point?
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ASBESTOS (Anonymous) says…
Poll: 51 percent say reporters are trying to hurt Palin
http://news.yahoo.com/s/rasmussen/200…
“Eighty percent (80%) of Republicans say reporters are trying to hurt the GOP vice presidential nominee, and 28% of Democrats agree. Only six percent (6%) of Republicans and even fewer Democrats (4%)think the reporting is intended to help her. Most Democrats (57%) think the reporters are being unbiased, but just nine percent (9%) of Republicans concur.
Among unaffiliated voters, 49% say reporters are trying to hurt Palin, while 32% say their coverage is unbiased. Only five percent (5%) say reporters are trying to help her.
Voters are more ambivalent about whether the media coverage of Palin and her family reflects a double standard that treats women worse than men. Forty-six percent (46%) say it does, but 35% disagree. Most Republicans and unaffiliated voters say the stories show the media's double standard against women, but a majority of Democrats disagree.
The findings, nevertheless, are troublesome for the embattled news industry and parallel what voters said in surveys earlier this summer. Sixty-eight percent (68%) of voters now believe most reporters try to help the candidate they want to win, and 49% believe reporters are trying to help Obama this year. Only 14% think they are trying to help McCain. In another survey, 55% said media bias is a bigger problem for the electoral process than large campaign donations.
Although women voters by a 48% to 35% margin believe the coverage of Palin reveals a double standard in the media, they continue to support Obama more than men. Palin in her comments already has made clear that one of her key missions is to lure women voters disaffected by Clinton's defeat in the Democratic primaries to the McCain column. This national survey of 1,000 Likely Voters was conducted by Rasmussen Reports on September 3, 2008. The margin of sampling error for each survey is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. ”
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bad_dog (Anonymous) says…
Asbestos, you really need to get a life.
Once again, your “newsflashes” only highlight the obvious. The fact most politicians use speechwriters has been common knowledge for decades-nothing new there. My statement did nothing more than reflect what occurred. It was not derogatory toward Ms. Palin, it merely reflected the facts-she showed she can give a speech. In fact, I even stated she did an excellent job of delievering the speech. I said it and I meant it. She is more formidable than I had previously thought.
Comfort with teleprompters and perceived unease with extemporaneous speech are the exact observations/criticisms made about Obama by the right for months. How does it feel when the shoe is on the other foot? Don't waste our time trying to turn my post into something it so obviously isn't-sexist.
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jumpin_catfish (Anonymous) says…
Liberals be afraid be very afraid!
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stuckinthemiddle (Anonymous) says…
regarding the Rasmussen poll…
it certainly is not a reporters job to help any candidate…
and it should be a reporters job to do research and report on the background of candidates…
if what they find makes the candidate look bad, so be it…
on the other hand… if reporters are giving their opinion about a candidate then that person is no longer and reporter… but rather a pundit or commentator… and there are certainly far too many of them:
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davidnta (Anonymous) says…
No get ready to be crushed by the liberal machine. Everyone at the convention failed to show the respect that the Democrats showed to McCain during the DNC.
Palin is an eloquent speaker, but she offers nothing when it comes to middle class and she lies about Obama wanting to raise taxes. He wants to cut taxes that will affect the middle class and lower class, and he wants to take away tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas. We need to take care of our own before everyone else.
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TheSychophant (Anonymous) says…
At 72, John McCain would be the oldest person to take office. 8 out of 43 presidents have died in office Based current actuariial tables. McCain has about a one in three chance of dying in office. And this doesn't take into account his five bouts with cancer, and the fact that both his father and grandfather had fatal heart attacks at relatively young ages. Suffice to say, the probability of McCain dying in office is greater than 1 in 3.
The republicans cite her “excecutive experience.”' While she has served as the Governor of a State with a population the size of Austin, Texas for around twenty months, most of the cited “exectuvie experience” is the six years she served as mayor of Wasilla, Alaka, a town around half the size of Parsons, Kansas.
So, the republicans believe she has the credenitals to leapfrog from Here:
http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/09…
to here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dcjohn/2…
No way. No how.
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sdinges (Anonymous) says…
Tony - Everything I have found has Palin saying that she supports choice in cases where there is a threat to the mother's health. I can't find a reference to incest. And there's a quote saying she would not support an abortion if her daughter was raped (that is not the same as saying she would pursue an agenda that made it illegal). I am looking for someone to provide evidence (beside her personal belief system) that she is going to actively try to make all abortion illegal.
Davidnta: Obama has said he wishes to raise income taxes on anyone making over 97k (I recall from Time - I'm not aware that he's changed his stance). He wants to raise Social Security related taxes to save that system. He wants to raise corporate tax rates (he hasn't been clear on what corporations will be affected, but it could include small business). He wants to raise capital gains tax substantially (this affects anyone who wants to invest in the market, or participate in the sale of any business). The speech made reference to the Death tax, which affects everyone if it's true.
The idea that Obama is only interested in raising taxes on the top 2 percent is something of a myth. If he passes all of his proposed tax increases, the vast majority of people will be impacted by at least one, and possibly several. For someone who owns a small business, makes more than 97k a year, has a portfolio and then dies - every single one of those taxes would apply. And these days - 97k is still middle class. Well… it won't be after all those taxes, I suppose.
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…
Ah, so we have become more civil! Thanks all. I guess the beginning was too much to keep up. Thank heavens for me!
I think the press has been relently in their examination of Palin, but that is to be expected because of her, “Johnny come lately” appearance. We all want to know more about her, eh?
As far as her speech goes, someone mentioned they spotted a tele prompter several times last night - I did not notice it and if it was there she acted as though she used one on a daily basis. I can hardle imagine getting up in from of the cja class (just kiddin folks), let alone getting up to perform for worldwide scrutiny. She did a terrific job and as far as “reading” her speech, she probably just got it written within the last few days. Even if one wrote it for themselves it would be darn hard to memorize it to the ability that it wouldn't be forgotten in a situation such as the Republican convention.
Thanks to all of you for the polite tone this blog has taken.
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DinkyDow (Anonymous) says…
Community organizer………..Governor?
2 Books about self……….makes budgets and vetos pork?
no experience………..city council, mayor, Governor?
Talks a good game………high school basketball star?
300 Nat'l security advisers………..War hero?
Geez! It's so hard to choose!
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bearded_gnome (Anonymous) says…
certainly her executive experience far surpasses both Obama and “Jawbon Joe” combined!
Obama was a “community organizer in south Chicago. Later as a state legislator, he opposed several pieces of legislation meant to get tough on gangbangers, and first degree murderers.
now, as a result, it is safer to be an American in Baghdad, than in south Chicago!
If Obama's advice had been followed, there would be a huge bloodbath in Iraq now, and he couldn't have visited there. and, even more telling, he won't credit the honorable work of our service personnel in bringing about the success in Iraq.
as a mayor, Palin actually had to make decisions!
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funny how 3Crooked, et al, love to harp on the less than 5% of abortions, rape incest and life of the mother, while they are actually defending *birth control abortions!*
and 3Crook makes the incredibly vapid moral equivalence of an innocent unborn baby, the most innocent among us, and a convicted criminal found guilty of taking life.
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Ronda,
take heart. it is now known that the more the crazy left attacks Sarah “plain and Tall” the more average americans like her!
And, obviously her actions portray her belief in the most basic of women's rights: the right to be equal to men in and out of government. Mayor, governor, small businesswoman, she is a wonderful choice for VP candidate! I am one who is really fired up about Sarah's nomination! and, incase some of your readers missed it, she did speak on something they wish she hadn't as they try to diminish her: she spoke of global energy politics, and Georgia. Being Governor of Alaska, of course she has lots of experience in this area.
but then, some of these same angry left posters have posted on here that $4 a gallon gas isn't enough, and that our country needs to be punished with $10 gallon gas!
finally, Ronda, I wonder if some of them are really bothered by this: five months after giving birth, she looks pretty darned good in a dress; and she could beat Obama in basketball for sure! you are right, her family is certainly not disfunctional; funny they call it that who are pushing for all kinds of “alternative” families. She's been married to the same guy for a long time! some of them try to raise his *22-year-old* DUI; some of the same supported a man who *killed* by his DUI, and used family connections to dodge the law. Mr. Palin faced the law and didn't use his family connections to escape punishment.
disfunctional, not! teens do make mistakes in the real world. there's another good idea for a blog, Ronda?
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it certainly is not a reporters job to help any candidate:
please address this to MSNBC/the tinglefoot network. They are totally pro-obama!
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…
jhwk, that was a very funny link - needed that! thanks
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RedwoodCoast (Anonymous) says…
Ronda: Hopefully I haven't offended you by previous comments I've made regarding your political choices. I am very aware that each person has a value system that is a result of a combination of nature and nurture. I guess I feel that people closer to the liberal side of the political spectrum tend to respect that fact more than people on the other end of the spectrum. To me, conservatives have always been about trying to legislate particular constellations of variables within their collective value system. Homosexual marriage and creationism/intelligent design are two good examples. Can't they just live and let live? I say pursue happiness to the point that it doesn't begin to interfere with the ability of other people to do so. What I feel from conservatives is a direct application of personal values, regardless of how culturally-relative those values are, to social policy. They love to interfere with certain things they don't agree with that tend to make other people happy.
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BigPrune (Anonymous) says…
Palin has done it all and in a short amount of time.
It is amazing to me that Harry Reid found her to be “shrill.” THAT sounds awful sexist to me, especially from such a prominent Democrat.
Can't wait for the debate.
Here are some future potential soap opera plot lines Obama will be coming up with in the next day or so to counter the Palin Pounce in the polls:
1) The Evil Twin. Sarah Palin has an evil twin who is acting in her place. Good Sarah doesn't wear glasses.
2) The Sister Momma. Sarah Palin's mother is really her sister.
3) Sarah's pregnant daughter's boyfriend is not the father.
Of course these are guesses. We'll just have to wait and see what they come up with and what the major media considers news. Obama will be quick to condemn so as to not look the bad guy.
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RedwoodCoast (Anonymous) says…
Prune, didn't Obama say that family is off-limits?
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…
RC: “Prune, didn't Obama say that family is off-limits?”
In this case, I think family is “Outer Limits.”
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…
… but I digress. Back to the topic at hand…
Ronda: “Sarah Palin… hit a ball that is traveling around the world!”
Would not her ability to launch satellites better qualify her for a position at NASA?
Ronda: “Palin showed spunk….”
( Hmm… maybe she can compete with a male candidate. )
Ronda: “Dare I say that Obama is “Pal(e) in” comparison.”
Ah… playing the double-reverse race card, I see… in addition to the
gender triple gainer….
Ronda, you're still my heroin(e), misguided as that political orientation may be.
- “closet” junkie
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justbegintowrite (Ronda Miller) says…
Finally my saviors and heros arrive to help my cause. Dear gentle gnome, thank you for your post and words of wisdom as usual, redwood, you have never said anything that has offended me - you state your position clearly, logically, and politely. Who amongst us can ask for more, and I thank you for mentioning it. That speaks volumns about you! :)
BigPrune, I can hardly wait for some of those topics to make their way into the headlines so I can write about them - oops, redwood is correct in that Obama said family is off limits; as it should be I think Obama spoke candidly when he said his mother gave birth to him at the age of 18. Does that mean she was pregnant at 17? I have to also make note on behalf of Sarah's daughter that people I know personally who have stayed married have been the ones who were highschool or college sweethearts. Do any of you have the same experience?
tange, I just love you! Oh, why did I just say that. Too many chocolate chip cookies before dinner. Sugar high - am guilty! :) Tange, running into the light of the moon, slightest hue of yellow/orange light transcends the determination, the dedication that shows itself in every muscle in Tange's body - smooth velvet in his stride as he races against time, before the moon disappears from the sky and sunlight beats unforgivingly against his perplexed brow.
Out of the closet - loving it! :)
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…
Ronda: “Oh, why did I just say that. Too many chocolate chip cookies before dinner….”
Well… that narrative left me… giddy.
( Perhaps the cookie was a brownie? )
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femail (Linda Hanney) says…
Today, NPR invited John Fund, Wall Street Journal columnist, to talk about voter fraud and abuse. Fund feels the election could be close and with that, outcomes of elections in key states settled in courts. He singled out ACORN with its questionable tactics. Interesting to hear who has been involved with the organization in the past.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/st…
Carry on Ronda:
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