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By Theresa Freed
December 7, 2010
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Glenn Stowe is searching for answers after his 7-year-old dog was found shot to death. The remains were found on a creek bank near Stowe's home in Leavenworth county.
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Can we get the full video on this?
We're no longer partners with 6News, but I let them know the video was uploaded incorrectly. Hopefully it gets updated later today.
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You might drop a line to Jesse Fray, email@example.com, and ask him to upload the full video.
News to me . . How long has Lawrence been in Leavenworth county?
Maybe you could look on a map and see that some people have Lawrence addresses but live in other counties! If it matters to you that much. It isn't about the location its the fact that a 58 year old man and a 63 year old woman shot a families pet that did hurt anyone.
Didn't hurt anyone
Tom, it's more likely it was chasing cattle. There's only two things you can do with a dog who chases cattle. I'd bet money the guy that did it has already talked to the dog's owner about it.
We both know this is all Obama's fault with a dash of Pelosi
All the spellings I can find are "Shih Tzu."
I prefer the Shih Tzu/Poodle mix. The ShihTzPoo is a cute little stinker.
There were no cattle involved in this. The man and woman that shot the dog have no animals and don't like any kind of animals. These two people also poisoned their other neighbors two dogs and was seen intentionally running over another dog in the neighborhood.
"...I'll take a personal interest in them."
I love it.
Roe asks, "How long has Lawrence been in Leavenworth Country?"
Folks who live in the Southwestern corner of Leavenworth County have Lawrence addresses and phone numbers as their residences are much closer to Lawrence than any towns in Leavenworth. Ditto for some folks who live in extreme southern Jefferson County. In other words, he's so close to the Douglas County line, a llama on his property could almost spit over the Douglas County line.
Isn't it deer season? Could this be a hunting accident?
Yep, it's easy to mistake a dog for an antlered white-tail deer... unless, of course, you're just taking "sound-shots" at them...
I love how people think hunters just shoot at anything with legs.
Heck, even Dick Cheney mistakenly "shot a human". LOL!!
well, we certainly all know one famous person who does.............................. so who knows.
Dog Leash law people.
The leash law is a city ordinance. It does not exist outside of the city.
That's frequently just one of the things that people who have only lived in the city get mixed up about. In a very real sense, the rules are different. There's no expectation that dogs will be penned up or be able to tell where the property lines are. At the same time, if one of my dogs gets shot while harassing livestock, I'd been sad, but I would not blame the owner.
A while back there was someone in the neighborhood who had some issue with dogs walking across his property and would put out chicken marinated in anti-freeze. Who knows how many of what he killed with that. For anyone in doubt, that is not an acceptable way of dealing with your fear of dogs.
It's very rarely a problem, but it does happen that family pets fall in with a marauding pack and go after some livestock. I heard about this with one of my dogs once in my life. I put the dog on a chain and offered to pay for the damages. Just saying I've been there before.
Let me give you all the full story here. This family that lost their dog have lived in their home on 12 acres for the past 17 years now. The neighbors that executed their family pet have probably around 10-12 acres themselves and decided to build their house right on top of the victims' home. Why, who knows? The two murderers are very strange people who for some reason live in the country despite the fact they hate deer, dogs, squirrels, rabbits, etc. The last time I checked, most of the time people move out into the country to get away from pesky neighbors and such and so that they don't have to keep a dog pinned up all day. Also, they enjoy wild life at it's finest. These murderers have poisoned 2 other dogs around 5 years ago or so and the husband was also seen deliberately running over a dog on the dirt road. These murderers never once confronted the family of any problems with their dog or gave them any sort of warning. To me this is sick and these people need to be stopped. Leash law? Are you kidding me? Does that really justify killing an innocent dog? Anyone of you that have something negative to say about the victims and their loss should be highly ashamed of yourselves. If you don't like animals you should not live in the country. I say press charges as far as you can press them and don't give up. What's next? Are the family members going to be shot if one of the grandchildren accidentally kicks a ball in their yard? One other comment I forgot to make, another neighbor was phoned by the murderers a couple of years ago and asked where they wanted him to dig the hole to bury their dog after he shot it? Does this sound like a sane person to you or does this sound like a hunting accident? I don't think so. Isn't there a law against ANIMAL CRUELTY??????????????? Also, the news was wrong last night saying the neighbors had threatened to kill their dog before. It was the other neighbors the murderers had plotted against a couple of years ago.
I don't know if I would have the heart to shoot a dog that was running loose near my rural property, but I know a lot of people who would. As such, I wouldn't let my dog run loose. People don't want to wait and see if that dog is going to bite someone, kill a chicken, harass livestock or do some other kind of damage. What's more, if you know your neighbor has problems with the neighborhood dogs, with your two houses close by on either side of a property line, it's downright irresponsible to let your dog roam.
As for the law, shooting an animal is not considered animal cruelty and shooting roaming dogs is perfectly legal, unless it involves trespassing.
I'm sorry that they lose their pet - I know how heartbreaking that is. I hope that they keep their animals close to home in the future.
The victims were not aware of any of the other instances until a week after the dog was shot to death. I'm sure if they knew these people were so vicious they would have kept the dog up. They are just now finding out these people have murdered and threatened pets in the past. You have to understand, this dog was put up overnight every night in the garage but was let out during the day when he wanted to play with his other four legged friends. The only time this dog was ever in the murderers yard was to lay under their trees waiting for his parents to get home. If they had a problem with this dog they should have confronted the victims 7 years ago when they got the dog, wouldn't you think? Or at least before they executed him for no apparent reason. These people are sick and twisted and remind me of cold blooded killers you would see on 20/20. Also, this is not some remote area deep in the woods, it is a subdivision. You won't find any chickens or livestock here just cats here and there and other family pets.
Ah yes, I've read the covenants on those kinds of subdivisions.
I understand why you're angry, no one really thinks that a 7 year old dog is dangerous, and it's quite possible that these dog shooters are totally nuts. BUT - It is not ok to let your dog run free. People don't move into rural subdivisions with a covenant that disallows chickens and livestock (among other things) because they "love animals" or want to see your dog on their property.
Yes, they should have spoken to the owner before shooting a dog that they clearly would have recognized as belonging to a neighbor. To not do so is inexcusable.
It is, however, the owner's responsibility to keep their dog on their property. You are the one who is responsible for protecting your pet from the road, wild animals and crazy people with guns and antifreeze. You do this by not letting your pet run free unsupervised.
"...and shooting roaming dogs is perfectly legal..."
Wait, what? No it's not. You can't legally shoot a dog just because it is roaming around not on a leash. The only time you are justified to shoot a dog, according to Kansas law, is if it presenting a clear and present danger to livestock or human life.
Good to know thank you. Where I live we have a problem with wild packs of dogs. I like dogs, but these wild packs that roam in large groups freak me out, because my young kids play outside unattended. At one point, shortly after moving to Jefferson County, I called the Sheriff's office to ask what could be done about the dogs (as in, do we have an animal control office?) I was told the only thing I could do was shoot the dogs, or put them in my car and drive them to Valley Falls. Neither of those options seemed good.
As Monkey_C demonstrates, it turns out that "clear and present danger" is subjective. He/she didn't have to wait until the pack of wild dogs ate one of his/her kids, the fact that there was a concern was enough.
I agree with you and feel that if people truly care about their country dogs don't want to use a chain or dog run than they should invest in the wireless shock collars that will keep their dog in a specific radius around their property. You make a very good point when you mention that people don't want to wait and see if someones dog is going to be a problem after the fact.
imastinker - there are a lot of good hunters, but anyone who grew up in a rural area in hunting country know there are some idiots who will shoot at any sound in the bushes too and come way too close to houses and other property. We had cattle get shot more than once. A woman in Maine was shot on her own back porch - she was wearing white mittens, which was enough to get her killed.
Cruelty to animals is a powerful predictor of potential to commit violent acts against other people. This type of behavior should be taken very seriously. particularly if it has persisted over time.
There it is. These creeps would be glad that I'm not the Stowes. I make a much better friend than an enemy.
the dog should of been kept on the owners property. Some dogs can be trained to property. It is the owners duty to the dog and to the neighbors to keep one's animals to their property. There are a variety of ways to keep animals on the property. There is a difference between an animal getting loose and letting the animal just run loose. Loose running packs of dogs aren't good. I am sorry they lost their dog. I am sorry the people who shot the dog took that avenue.
Yes, the dog should have been kept on the owner's property but out and out executing a dog for the sake of executing it is wrong. I don't know if it is lawful or not. I don't care. If the dog was not being aggressive then it could have been "shooed" away. Mean is mean anyway you cut it. I don't care if you're mean to a dog, child, or adult. Just because a dog wanders onto your property is no reason to kill it if it is not a danger to you or your livestock.
Where is Nick Danger and Enforcer when we need them?
That is horribly sad. If those people are regularly killing pets, someday they will kill the wrong person's pet and something will happen to them. I will feel no sympathy for them. Anyone who would kill someone's pet is sick and disgusting.
I bet the creep that shot the dog is reading these comments and enjoying the anger and hurt he is causing. He sounds like a bully. Big tough guy that can't stand up to people but will hurt an animal, probably has to keep the wife and kids in line too.
HE SOUNDS LIKE AN A-- HOLE TO ME.
This is why we are trying to push the case, these people are unstable and this type of behavior with animals leads to violence with humans. The victims grandchildren are afraid to visit them now, because they are afraid they will be shot. How is this fair? This maniac is actually terrorizing the family. He chased down the victims daughter, son in law and grandson in their vehicle going 60 mph on a dirt road with his 2 toddler granddaughters in his car, without carseats, I might add. However the DA and the Sherrif's department claim there is nothing they can do. I don't buy it.
It's true. unless the animals are abused or malnourished the law can do very little other than talk to the pet owner to suggest keeping the animal penned or on a leash.
I think they were talking about doing something about the people who killed the dog, not the people who let their dog roam into someone's yard everyday for seven years. Also, how did the neighbors not know that they had done this to someone's pets before? Do they not talk to their neighbors? Someone said they had been living there for 17 years and they don't know anything about their neighbors?
They should do something to the neighbors, it's not ok to execute an animal just because it wanders onto your property. Dogs can't read or interpret property lines.
My dogs have been known to escape or bolt from time to time and they just want to explore, they mean no harm. Luckily it's only once or twice a year.
I don't know what I would do if someone killed one of my dogs. Something very unpleasant to be sure.
I didn't say they shouldn't do anything to the people who shot the dog. What I was responding to was an earlier post that said that the dog's owners had no idea of earlier problems with the neighbor poisoning and running over dogs. If the dog's owners have been living there for 17 years, how did they not know this? I was not placing any fault on the dog's owners.
"I didn't say they shouldn't do anything to the people who shot the dog."
I know, I'm agreeing with you.
The only way for someone to know something like that is to be told. Obviously they were not. How is this hard to believe?
Well, you would think that it would come up in conversation with their other neighbors that have had pets killed. The other neighbors would have said something like..."watch your dog, that guy doesn't like animals. He might even poison or run over it. He has done it before." You don't think that would have come up in the 17 years they lived there?
wonder if they like dog pate or if they are related to Barbara Rose "woof woof"
they sound like evil people. if you must kill an animal, bite the head off of a bat like Ozzy
"Like" your last sentence, dude.
JL12345 - it seems you are the owner or know the owner.
Let me be up front and say I am in now way defending what the neighbor did.
That said, you built a house on 12 acres, most of which appears to be a "pie shaped" lot with little to no road frontage. So your house is very close to the property line. Your neighbor appears to have a similar issue, less road frontage than space on the back of their lot. They are also close to the property line. You two can't even split this lot like this anymore in Leavenworth county, you need 300' of road frontage and you don't appear to have more than 75 or so.
So you are griping about the neighbor who built so close to you building legally on their lot? Then you expect to be able to let the dogs run loose anywhere you desire? Maybe the dog was aggressive towards the neighbor? Maybe the neighbor had a dog chained up and your dog would come fight with it. I've had that happen to me several times when we had a dog.
Here's the deal - you can't do stuff like that. If you didn't want neighbors you needed to buy more property - or their property when it was for sale.
I had a neighbor who had a pitt bull who he swore was nice and friendly, but when it got out it was aggressive and mean. Several neighbors threatened to shoot it if it came on their property before he finally got rid of it. It's not fair of you to subject your neighbor to this.
"It's not fair of you to subject your neighbor to this."
Or your dog.
Particularly the dog. The dog doesn't know any better.
By the way - I don't know any of these people. I found the information I found on google and with information in the article and comments made here.
The poster was misleading about the layout of the houses in their post above, I expect other parts of the information given are misleading as well.
This didn't just happen...something led up to it that we aren't being told about.
exactly! while i understand that it is the pet owner's responsibility to keep
track of their dog, it's also the neighbor's responsibility not to be a jackass.
why didn't he talk to the dog's owner and try to work out a solution instead
of taking deadly force against the dog? he sounds like a coward to me.
you have to make it uncomfortable for dogs to keep coming onto your
property & wanting to hang around. if you don't take some sort of action,
you'll not be able to keep them away. they are bored and looking for adventure.
he could have asked the owner if it would be okay to shoot the dog (rump area
only--not the face) with a bb gun. if the owner didn't like that idea, they could
have discussed other options.
The shooters sound awful, but i really don't know the facts , just rumor and one side of the story. They are probably awful. I have experienced loose dogs, that chased children, killed livestock, ran live stock and I wanted to shoot. I didn't shoot them, I talked to the owners who told me that the dogs didn't bother anyone and were good dogs. They were abusive and rude to me and I think they stole my tools out of our shed. . One neighbor found the dog in their chicken pen for the fourth time, shot it and buried it in the chicken yard. When the neighbors came looking, they were told the dog might be in the chicken yard, the owners of the dog said it didn't bother chickens. The children could safely play in the yard again. I was glad the dog was gone.
It is not ok to let your dog run in the country. We trained our dogs to keep to our property, One dog couldn't seem to learn that, we found a more appropriate home for it. I miss living in the country. I loved our dogs, Taver Jane, Gypsy and Bruno. Bruno was huge german shepherd who let the cat sit on his head. I am sorry for the loss of the pet.
"It is not ok to let your dog run in the country."
This needed repeated!
This is a subdivision, the shooter is the only person in the area who doesn't have pets. He never once confronted the owners about the dog, if they had, it probably wouldn't have turned out the way it did. Every person out there lets their dogs run. It's the country... dogs run around, not unheard of or illegal. It takes a cruel and evil person to walk up to a dog and shoot it in the head. I wouldn't be surprised if a human isn't his next victim, or already has been. This type of behavior is not acceptable.
This isn't a subdivision. I googled it. Quit stretching the truth here. It appears glenn has a neighbor close to him, and another house across the road tucked behind the trees, and nothing for a good distance before that. They are at the end of a dead end road.
Quit stretching the truth? Quit trying to be a know it all. Go talk to the 7 people who bought lots in the SUBDIVISION and tell me it's not a subdivision. Better yet, drive out there and see for yourself if it's that big of a deal to you.
Imastinker - you come across as being the guilty neighbor. Are you? You have spent a lot of time trying to convince everyone that what happened is ok. I am not the victim but do live right down the road in the SUBDIVISION you are speaking of. It's ok for you to keep telling yourself that killing a very gentle dog because you are having a bad day is the right thing to do. Your name fits you well, you do stink!
JL12345, I am not the neighbor. I don't know the neighbor or anyone that lives here or know anyone that knows anyone that lives here. I've never seen this area and never met the dog.
I spent a few years on the governing body of a small town and had case after case where people would come in with their dog. They would refuse to keep them leashed or in a fence and insisted that they were not harming anyone. They would keep this up after a dog would get loose and be aggressive towards people in their own yard or even bite people. I saw it so many times that maybe I just have a hard time believing that someone could be heartless enough to shoot an innocent dog. My conclusion is that the dog was aggressive and the owner wouldn't do anything about it.
You don't have to believe it, but in light of what other neighbors have said, I think it was OK to shoot the dog. One neighbor said that the wife came over several times and said she felt threatened on her own property by this dog.
Dogs should not be allowed to run loose.. It doesn't take much attention to train your dog to stay on your property, but it takes some effort. I don't care if a few neighbors do it and you think it is cool. Depending on what your dogs do, unattended, left on it's own to roam, it could be a danger to livestock or persons. They could join into a pack. Packs are particularly dangerous and unpredictable. I don't want your dog on my property. If it gets out, I will help you catch it and wish you well. If you take no responsibility and use my land to range your animal, listen, I don't want your dog on my property. Dogs should not be loosed on the neighbors. It isn't a proper way to treat the dog or is it responsible. As to the law, I would call the sheriff and check.
As long as we are on the subject, NEVER abandon an animal out in the country to let it "run free"
My grandfather and mother both trained their dogs to stay on their respective properties over the years; my grandfather in the country and my mom in town. It's is time consuming and can't be done in a day, but not that hard to do.
If you don't like animals, stay out of the country where there are no leash laws. Plain and simple. I like how people see 22 seconds of a story and think that's enough to form an opinion. I really wish they would fix the clip and upload the entire thing.
Last time I checked Golden Retrievers weren't vicious dogs. It's interesting to me how people like to blame the victim. Go tell a mother who's child is kidnapped when they turn their back for a split second that she should have been more attentive, and see where that gets you. Any person who can shoot a dog for pleasure, needs their head examined... and anyone who upholds for them needs theirs checked as well.
sorry about the video upload. i'm on vacation right now. i'll send another message to my news director to fix it today.
I like animals a lot. There are no leash laws in Douglas County, that I know of, but there are stray animal regulations. Part of the reason to keep your animals on their own property is for their protection. There are other dangers than horrid neighbors, not everyone's property is geared to handle a strange dog. Just off the top of my head, poisons, animal traps, other animals that are territorial. Keeping your animals on your own property or restrict them to properties they have permission to be on. I am sorry for the loss of a beloved pet. We mourn our lost loved ones. Cats, dogs, they are a wonderful part of our life.
I think the entire subdivision should deposit their pet's deposits in this cruel neighbors yard for the next couple years!!!
ban subdivisions. especially those "in the country"....sorry, but a subdivision outside of city limits just don't seem like living in the country, to me.
This isn't a subdivision. They are on 12 acres and there's only a few houses on the whole street.
Where are you getting your misinformation? Each lot (8 of them) is at least 10 acres. Get a job, or a hobby.
whatever....then the few houses should deposit their pet's deposits in the yard.
This is so sad! I have no problem with keeping your dog off of a leash in the country IF you can train them to stay on your property! My dog is loose but doesn't wander very far. The only times I've watched her go off the property were to chase away our neighbor's dogs. There is no reason to shoot stray animals unless they are aggressive. I've chased many strays off just by hollering or walking towards them. No violence needed!
For anyone who wants to watch the full story, it's now there. Thanks for watching.
Not trying to be heartless or anything, but someone threatens to kill your dog if it comes on their property and you still let your dog run loose? Anyone else see where there is a little blame on the owner? Not that it excuses the neighbor, but the owner was warned!
If you'd read the previous comments, you'd know that the news story was incorrect in saying that the owner had been warned and their dog threatened. It was a neighbor who had been threatened... and the owner didn't know about this until AFTER his dog was murdered.
You mean the one by jl12345? I did read that. I even posted a comment a little later on asking if the neighbors have threatened to kill a dog, even a different neighbor's dog, poisoned two dogs, and ran another over how did the owner's not know that this was a possibility? The owner's have been living there for 17 years but not one discussion about any of this? I just don't buy that!
I don't care what you do or don't buy... you're no one to me or anyone else involved in the situation. Regardless, do you really think it's ethical for an innocent, friendly dog to be shot in the head just for sitting on someones property? If so, I feel bad for anyone in your life. You're as sick as the killer.
Look at my comments. I made a point of saying that I do not condone the actions of the neighbors. I also think that some responsibility lies with the owner of the dog. They decided not to train their dog to stay on their property, or put up a fence so the dog did not bother their neighbors. Like I have said before, blame lies on both sides of the issue, the owner for not taking care of their dog in proper ways, and the neighbors for not discussing issues with the owner.
Please see a previous comment where it is mentioned that the news story was incorrect in stating the owner had been warned/threatened that his dog would be shot... it was actually a neighbor who had been threatened. The killer had never confronted the owner about any problems with the dog.
It's obvious from a lot of the comments made that some of you don't know many people that live in the country, and how things are. It's not against the law to have your dogs off of a leash, and if someone shoots your dog without proof that they were a "nuisance", they are on the wrong side of the law. That's part of living in the country. If you don't like it, them move back into the city. Unfortunately, the punishment for such a crime isn't that great for such a person.
To the owner of the dog: I'm sorry for your loss. Having a dog is truly like having another member of your family. I'm sure that you're all hurting right now, and I hope that you get some sort of justice for this, especially considering their past experiences. People that think they can bully others shouldn't get away with it.
none2, that was a good response, and I agree with you completely. The people in those cases all had proof that those dogs were a threat to their livestock, and as you pointed out, this case doesn't seem to rise to that standard. So I do hope that the dog's owners go after their neighbor for what he did.
The Justice System is man made therefore flawed, but true and real justice lies in the heart of all men.
I live in town, and I make it a point to know my neighbors. If they are walking their dog, I get to know the dog too. If one of them would get loose, I would round them up and hold them until the neighbor got home. I wouldn't call animal control and complain. I certainly wouldn't shoot them. Why didn't these people get to know the dog? He looks pretty friendly to me. They could have had a nice visit everyday with the dog. Why would they threaten to kill a dog if it's on their property? Why couldn't they ask the neighbor nicely to train their dog to stay off their property? Sounds like jerky neighbors to me. Why don't these people move out to the desert, so they don't have to deal with any neighbors but the buzzards and lizards?
They were just jerky neighbors too. Fortunately I don't have neighbors like that.
So much know-it-all speculation and sideways tangents. What happened here was disgusting. Have a heart.
I'm one of the neighbors of the man who had his dog slaughtered.
When we were called by Glen, he was worried sick about his dog. He wondered if we had seen him around. Buster had always walked on the gravel road by our house with his buddy, Roper, another neighbor dog. Granted, Buster was a little stand-offish, but he was just cautious. He growled occasionally, but then ran off. Never once tried to snarl or bite me. He would rather turn around and walk away than get into a fight with anything. Our chihuahuas would even bark and run at him and he'd turn tail and run off. Does that sound like a vicious animal to you? No, it doesn't.
I checked our field, worried he might have been hit by a car and ended up on our property. We got the terrible phone call later on that evening, and were shocked to find out that Glen had found his loving pet in the mud, by a creek, with a bullet hole in his chest, and skull.
The man who killed this dog has indeed hurt and killed other animals, that's no surprise there. He's not the friendliest of people. His wife has approached us in the past, and complained that our Brittany Spaniel scared her, and she felt threatened her.(The ONLY time we've been aware of them actually taking steps to talk to a neighbor about a concern regarding an animal...)
She was incredibly rude about it, making it sound like our dog was a rabid hell hound, when our dog barely even barked. Unfortunately, Echo, the dog, was killed by a train several years ago. We have numerous dogs and cats, including a Great Pyrenees and another Brittany. He's recently learned how to climb our chain-link fence, and runs around all the time. We can't keep him in the backyard, and we don't want to lock him up in his run all the time, especially now that winter is here. We have two other dogs in the backyard, who share a small shed filled with hay for warmth.
Who is to say this guy won't shoot one of our dogs if it wanders onto his property? Or anyone's pet? Three of our cats have gone missing this past month, I don't count out the possibility of his rifle-wielding wife using them as target practice from her front door.
If they hate animals this much, they need to move. We don't need people like them making us live in fear of our dog getting out and possibly being shot a few times because he steps foot on some guy's lawn.
I would not let my children play in the yard if there was a strange dog in the yard. If you want your dog to be able to roam someone's property you should go there and ask permission.
i would be worried sick if i knew my dog was always wondering around on a gravel road. I'm surprised it didn't get hit by a car. a petsafe wireless fence could have saved this dogs life and avoided ill feelings amongst neighbors.
This whole string is really sad and disgusting. Those who abuse animals are sick degenerates, and low lifes. I do not understand why these people exaggerate their "issues" with the animals belonging to others. Frankly, I would say they should "watch their backs" . . .as they say, what goes around comes around. These sick SOB's and their ridiculous excuses make no sense. They sound like the crazy, hillbilly folk in scary movies. I wish upon them the same savagery they have shown these poor animals.
I didn't realize the accused neighbors had made statements. What did they say? How did they exaggerate? Is it on the internet? From hearing one side of the story it sounds like several dogs were roaming loose in the area. The accused neighbors had complained and spoken rudely to some of the dog owners, about the loose dogs, The woman "feigned" fear and dislike of loose dogs. Someone shot a dog that by accounts was a sweet, friendly very large dog. I am sorry for the loss of a beloved pet. That is heart breaking. . If you want your dogs to roam free on neighbors land it is polite to go over there, let them know your dog and ask their permission.
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