Fight leads to shooting outside the Granada

By Lindsey Slater · December 13, 2009 · Comment on this

A fight ended in gunshots Sunday morning outside the Granada. One person was reportedly shot and taken to Lawrence Memorial Hospital with non-life-threatening injuries.

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acg 8 years, 4 months ago

I'm so glad I don't go out anymore.

BigPrune 8 years, 4 months ago

Was there a hip hop revue going on that night?

Ricky_Vaughn 8 years, 4 months ago

Prune's first instinct. Blame it on hip-hop/black culture.

hikenbike 8 years, 4 months ago

4-6 shots fired 1 person shot/injured 1 police officer battered 1 block away from the police station 0 arrests

John Hamm 8 years, 4 months ago

Yes, Rickey but the thing is he's correct!

hipper_than_hip 8 years, 4 months ago

Does the LPD really use assault rifles, or is Channel 6 just throwing around politically charged words?

kansasfire911 8 years, 4 months ago

Ok Ricky lets see what happens when the Pat Green show lets out next month.

orbiter 8 years, 4 months ago

"politically charged words" assault rifle?

I believe the anchor was quoting an eye witness. Plus, what else would you call an assault rifle? How is that politically charged? Should a newstation censor these type of details? Being a little PC are we?

flux 8 years, 4 months ago

Sorry Ricky but its true.... and thats coming from the most liberal county in the state of Kansas.

hipper_than_hip 8 years, 4 months ago

If the witness said the police pulled out an atomic bomb, would Channel 6 mention that, or would they seek to clarify?

Joe Hyde 8 years, 4 months ago

lf this hasn't already been done, it might be worth doing a study of past incidents of this type in Lawrence to see if there is enough evidence to prove a correlation between hip-hop music acts (including hip-hop DJ shows) and felony assaults involving gunfire on Lawrence streets.

It seems to me that these downtown gunfights where an assailant fires into a crowd of pedestrians at 2 a.m., and the highway gunfights that occur minutes later as contending parties are fleeing town, almost exclusively involve young people who reside in Topeka and Kansas City.

You don't have to be a music editor to recognize the brazen aggressiveness of attitude and action that is characteristic of hip-hop. Its appeal seems to be strongest in groups of aggressive young people who live in nearby large cities who are attracted here to enjoy it, but who in too many cases also "enjoy" the acting out of physical aggression that is described and romanticized in the lyrics of this type of music.

I guess what strains my sense of humor are the many incidents of shootings, fights and knifings after these shows, the number of people wounded, the number of patrol officers who get assaulted. The shootings alone menace thousands of Lawrence citizens who live downrange of the gunfire, as well as the property of many dozens of commercial enterprises located mostly, but certainly not exclusively, in the downtown blocks.

So if a study of these shootings and large-scale street disturbances establishes that hip-hop music was a factor in a disproportionately high ratio of incidents when compared to other types of music, then instead of shutting down the Granada and other local music venues, the city should consider passing an ordinance that bans the booking at public establishments of all hip-hop music acts, whether the acts involve a live band or a DJ.

These street fights are terrifying events, and if we can identify and remove the explosive before it can be detonated then I think we have a responsibility to do that. If hip-hop music is the "social gunpowder" that sets off these battles, then ban it in our city. Let these amped-up, contentious, trigger-happy Topeka and Kansas City people stay home and kill one another on their own home turf. Leave us the hell out of it.

garyr 8 years, 4 months ago

So, is the Granada where all the Club Axis patrons go now?

Steve Jacob 8 years, 4 months ago

The Granada has to know what acts might have trouble. While it sounds they did an OK getting the fight outside, looks bad for them to have them shoot it out outside. This city has had a history of closing these types of clubs before, I would think about who you bring it. I like the Granada, but shooting like this happens every few months, and that's not good.

hipper_than_hip 8 years, 4 months ago

Soldiers carry assault rifles. Policemen carry patrol rifles.

Major difference. Google it and find out for yourself.

Cait McKnelly 8 years, 4 months ago

Seen on a t-shirt while on Mass street downtown, "Hugs for thugs." Glorification at it's best. (/sarcasm)

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