'White Owl' set to tie the knot

By Mark Boyle · June 19, 2008 · Comment on this

A popular Lawrence figure plans to tie the knot at the age of 61. His bride-to-be is a mere 39 years younger - but that hasn't stopped the couple from further pursuing their spiritual connection.

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rumor_man 6 years, 10 months ago

fu7il3 (Anonymous) says:

According to the bride's interview in the UDK, they are planning on having children right after marriage. Maybe you should just skip the china and get them a baby carriage.


Thanks for the heads up.

Maybe they should have a wedding/baby shower instead of just a wedding.

bearded_gnome 6 years, 10 months ago

okay none2,you mean he was one that survived the quantrill raid...lol. proves;:a nice beard is very sexy.
now, still wondering:why is this in the paper? white owl is a ku fan at many games? goes to ku classes? okay, so? ***re the rockefeller ref:what a way to go, wouldn't you think? and, being married to her might just prolong his life and his mind.

Christine Pennewell Davis 6 years, 10 months ago

time will tell this really could be true love so hey you two be happy.

Leprechaunking13 6 years, 10 months ago

So more than appearance or personality, it's about money more than anything none2?

ksdivakat 6 years, 10 months ago

Ive always heard the older the bull the stiffer the horn:P

i_have_only_valid_opinions 6 years, 10 months ago

She timed it right financially...he will be able to draw social security checks in less than a year (when he turns 62). Convenient timing?Still no one has been able to explain the weird "palm touching" type of hand holding thing they are doing in the video. What the hell is that about?

OldEnuf2BYurDad 6 years, 10 months ago

I predict that this thread lives for at least a week. There is too much good material here to work with:- Jokes about defibrillators- Jokes about Viagra- Jokes about how long this will last (divorce)- Jokes about how long this will last (he's old!)- Jokes about "taking notes" and how "He's my hero"- Absurd statements about how lovely this is (Sorry, but the judgmental part of me is raging right now. How did he get a girl that young? A: She's 22 going on 13 and doesn't have a clue.)- Complaints about judgmental statements- Complaints about liberals and conservatives and how the old man is connected to the war in Iraq...This thread will last longer than the marriage, I'm guessing. Poor judgement on EVERYONE'S part is what I'm saying, and I don't even know the couple.

i_have_only_valid_opinions 6 years, 10 months ago

What the hell is up with how they hold hands? That is stupid. Are we from another universe or something where touching palms is sacred?

Bone777 6 years, 10 months ago

I thought this old fart was crazy....Crazy like a fox.When I get old and lonely, I am going to put on my hippie Santa costume, smoke alot of Mary Jane, and gyrate like some sort of freak at the KU games. After this story, I'll probably have lots of company.

Kam_Fong_as_Chin_Ho 6 years, 10 months ago

Rumor has it that they will be selling videotapes of their wedding night to raise money for the ACLU.

jd 6 years, 10 months ago

There's going to be some serious buyer's remorse in that marriage.

hail2oldku 6 years, 10 months ago

Re-read it Ragingbear - she is a mere 39 years younger.Whiteowl = 61 - 39 = 22 y/o who has made her parents extremely proud.

Jaylee 6 years, 10 months ago

lindsay, take a bow girl. and a breath! WOO!!!i think most of the people who post on here though dont really tend to the spiritual. could be wrong. coooould be wrong,

bearded_gnome 6 years, 10 months ago

okay:1. who's white owl? and why's he big in this community? [no, I can't watch the video!];2. why is this news? 3. at age 22, she is an adult with adult choice and responsibility. 4. automatically presuming various assumptions about them? right. 5. "I like long walks, watching the sun set. I work for world peace. and, i like to collect antiques."

Christine Pennewell Davis 6 years, 10 months ago

oh yeah and he can not be a dirty old man she is to old.

OldEnuf2BYurDad 6 years, 10 months ago

"Love knows no bounderies or age limits."No it doesn't, but "love" does need some common contexts. Companionship for an old geezer is a different experience than it is for that young girl. "Can" this work? Yes, and man "can" go to Mars, but it will take a lot more to go to Mars than it would take to go to Topeka. They are attempting a "go to Mars" relationship.Yeah, it "can" work. But is it a good idea to create a bond with someone who you are probably not at all compatible with? Common sense says this is a bad idea. According to the UDK, she hasn't told her dad. Probably because she knows he's smart enough to realize how nutty this is.Some of us are still not quite ready to leave home even at 22. She's clearly making choices she will regret. I hope they prove me DEAD WRONG. I mean that in all sincerity because this will be a terrible and embarrassing experience for her if I'm correct.

OldEnuf2BYurDad 6 years, 10 months ago

Every ancient culture reveres the wisdom of the aged. Only in the western world is it easy to dismiss someone of greater experience than yourself. The old fogeys have spoken! We concur: This old man has no bidness getting his wrinkled freak on with some dude's impressionable daughter."If you're going to buy a young cow for the milk, you must be able to catch said cow."Perfect. I wish I had come up with that one.

ramsrevenge 6 years, 10 months ago

3 1/2 weeks together. LOL! "He's got...old balls!"

Christine Pennewell Davis 6 years, 10 months ago

multi should we call the paramedics? sorry did not mean to make you go blind. god I can't stop laughing.

Christine Pennewell Davis 6 years, 10 months ago

I know several couples with older woman and younger men, not that young but 10 years apart or so.

Christine Pennewell Davis 6 years, 10 months ago

oh people come on just let it be what will happen will happen.

Jcjayhawk1 6 years, 10 months ago

J/K this guy isn't an Embarisment. He should live how he pleases. Even if there is a little wacky tebacky goin on.

i_have_only_valid_opinions 6 years, 10 months ago

I can't blame him...if I had my choice between a 22 y/o with perkies or a 60 something with saggies, I know my choice. But, what the hell is she thinking? She must have father figure issues or self esteem issues. I don't get it on her part. She must like shriveled fruit.

iplaysupernintendo 6 years, 10 months ago

Julia is a great person. I'm so happy for the both of them and I can't wait to go to their wedding.Congrats!

fu7il3 6 years, 10 months ago

"Don't pot users encourage small breasted women to use it because it works wonders?"Enough pot and you just don't care if you are flat-chested anymore.

OldEnuf2BYurDad 6 years, 10 months ago

Someone needs to send the A-Team in to rescue this girl from her abductor.

Gabe Hoffman 6 years, 10 months ago

I'm only happy for them because it makes everyone so uncomfortable!I think massive amounts of PDA is called for just to add a little spice to it all.

ksdivakat 6 years, 10 months ago

Multi.....I am laughing so hard I almost wet myself!!!! :P

fu7il3 6 years, 10 months ago

I'm sure the bride's parents will be proud. He'd be great fun at Thanksgiving dinner.

Ragingbear 6 years, 10 months ago

The text says she is 39, the news clip said she was 22. Which one is it?

pace 6 years, 10 months ago

What with the lies? he is not homeless. This couple probably has a greater chance than many, Both are nice people and they share kindness and joy, rather than some couples who share avarice and spite. julia is a nice person, smart and she has a good character. To call them druggies or homeless isn't just guessing, it is lying. I wish them the best. Trolls make it up, unhappily they make up a pile of manure and then they swim in it.

Munsoned 6 years, 10 months ago

I heard a funny comment earlier today about how when she kisses him, she probably finds old food in his beard. What's with the mirror?????????????????????????

Munsoned 6 years, 10 months ago

Udder tips??? Oh my....... that is AWESOME

ksdivakat 6 years, 10 months ago

yes indeed its jealousy for sure....thats just the thing ive asked santa for.....an old geezer in my stocking on x-mas morn!!! LOL

fu7il3 6 years, 10 months ago

"I wonder if I'll ever live long enough to marry one of my daughters friends..uck..never mind."Or in this case, your granddaughter's friends."To call them druggies or homeless isn't just guessing, it is lying."I agree. Obviously, neither of these two have ever smoked pot. Not once. They just aren't the type.

ksdivakat 6 years, 10 months ago

geniusmannumber1 and only the one.....where are your negative comments toward everyone else on here who made a funny about this?? I notice you have only posted against me!!!

Bone777 6 years, 10 months ago

White Owl-You don't have to buy the cow to give the milk.(In reference to the udder tips.)

trinity 6 years, 10 months ago

the impending wedding made the front page of the kc star, too...looks as though it's the 27th at the loose park rose garden. all are invited, according to white owl.

Mike Blur 6 years, 10 months ago

Skimming through the comment forum, I see the haters are out. Even Torcia, the racist, homophobic law enforcement officer, crawls out from under his rock.More power to WO and Julia, and may you find happiness. I've attended a couple weddings in Loose Park--it's a wonderful setting for a ceremony.

kef104 6 years, 10 months ago

Multi...I love it. A subtle, yet incredibly appropriate, reference to Harold and Maude. They should have the song sung at their wedding.

Christine Pennewell Davis 6 years, 10 months ago

you guys are so bad. What if he lives to be 101 and she stays with him the entire time? that would make this marriage longer lasting than most marriages of today.

Charlie Naramore 6 years, 10 months ago

Forget that second colon, replace it with a comma...

Bone777 6 years, 10 months ago

I think these two were able to see past their age differences, because they felt so lucky to find someone with the same horrendous taste in hats...I think the wedding should be an awesome opportunity for old White Owl to also get his pawl bearers lined out.This marriage is going to last forever....Include that with the probability of White Owls predicted undefeated football, basketball, and track seasons.

L_Summers 6 years, 10 months ago

I think everybody who is disgusted and are insulting White Owl and Julia should be ashamed of themselves!If you have exalted yourself so much that you believe you have the power to judge this man and this woman - then maybe you should go talk to White Owl ! I'm sure after an actual conversation with him you will completely change your mind. Maybe you won't, but that would be your loss. As a 21 year old friend of White Owl I am in complete support of him. I have only met Julia briefly but know White Owl well. He may be older but in heart and spirit he is very young. He is not a dirty old man - he is a kind, beautiful man with a dream to inspire the masses with his messages of love and encouragement. Yes he is a bit tricksy and loves a good joke, but good for him ! And to those who think he is glorified - your very admittance to interest in him by posting in this forum makes you directly guilty of this "glorification" you are talking about. Lawrence has a long history of embracing the extraordinary. Let us not regress now in this crucial moment in time ! A new generation is emerging and will be full force very soon. You can sit there and shake your head out of fear, or you can jump and cheer and tell the children "Follow what you know in your heart because it will not lead you astray" as this man has. White Owl may not be an ideal role model to all, but he is an incredible mentor to all who go to him. He makes the kids smile on campus, he puts pep in their step, he'll always take the time to listen to anyone even if he's never met them. If life is giving you lemons White Owl will tell you to make lemonade and play a song and dance for you while you do it. Lawrence is blessed to have him, the students of KU are blessed to have him, and I truly believe that if you can't see this then you ARE in fact jealous of him. Congratulations White Owl and Julia ! I could care less whether this works out in the end or not - its obviously working NOW and as long as you are happy NOW then what more could you ask for ? Good for you guys! Love and Blessings.

ksdivakat 6 years, 10 months ago

I call BullS**t!!! Hes a dirty old man!!!

i_have_only_valid_opinions 6 years, 10 months ago

Assuming this guy isn't shooting old man blanks at this point, their kids are going to be so confused..."Hi, Dad, Grandpa, Santa Claus, Jerry (Garcia). How come the police man keeps coming and taking those green plants and lights out of the basement?"

torcia 6 years, 10 months ago

Get that girl some braces and maybe she could land a guy with a future. Seriously what is she thinking. Marrying the local homeless guy...how "free spirited."

trinity 6 years, 10 months ago

i just had to watch that video right after finishing a yummy lunch. bleh.but whatev, may they live happily ever after, eh?

OnlyTheOne 6 years, 10 months ago

KsdivakatJealousy will get you nowhere.

geniusmannumber1 6 years, 10 months ago

Ksdivakat--1) Because at the time I posted, you were the only one who personally attacked either of them (with the possible exception of hail2oldku, but that was mild compared to your comment and I missed it at the first time).2) I later called out everyone with a similar shallow, superficial, prejudiced, judgmental attitude.Sorry you took it personally.

blkpnthr 6 years, 10 months ago

i just moved to lawrence recently. i thought i was moving to a city of open-minded, open-hearted people. i hope the majority of persons posting a response to this story are not representative of lawrence as a whole.my companion of nearly three years is 30+ years younger than i am. i'm aware of a KU prof in a similar relationship, would you like to smear him as well?

Frederic Gutknecht IV 6 years, 10 months ago

Multi...Cat Stevens wrote and sang "If You Want to Sing Out, Sing Out" specifically for the movie "Harold and Maud".

unite2revolt 6 years, 10 months ago

Reasons why you shouldn't let your daughters smoke pot. #345 They might marry a old hippie.Reasons why you shouldn't let your daughter go to KU.#16 They might marry an old townie.

Charlie Naramore 6 years, 10 months ago

The guy's 61. He's not prehistoric. Not many people on campus knows anything about him: they treat him like a living myth. Still: he's not a fraud and he's not a townie. As long as he's taking classes for free (Regents let 60+ audit any course if I remember correctly) he's just another student. Right? My question is, will we all realize he's just the flavor of the month now that he's off the market? Because that's what was truly compelling about him, his availability, yes?

Frederic Gutknecht IV 6 years, 10 months ago

How absolutely horrible. Love should be shot in the face for finding this unapproved couple. Despicable. This relationship will cause people to be terribly uncomfortable. The horror. Only approved love, please!~)It's a shame when isolation and disapproval come with the (relationship) territory. Allow people to live their lives for better or for worse. Jeez. People don't always CHOOSE with whom they fall in love. Right? Well, some do, I suppose. How romantic.Hey. How'd this chip get on my shoulder?~)

readit 6 years, 10 months ago

I don't understand how this man became a "face" of KU nor why I have to see him on tv and at all of the KU games. As an alum, he's not what I want as a representative, and I abhor how the camera crews always find him and feed his 61-year-old ego. Don't care about the marriage. I hope he has a bundle of cash hidden under his bed as a reward for her when he dies. Yuck.

geniusmannumber1 6 years, 10 months ago

You know what disgusts me? When I look at the wedding announcements in the paper on Saturday, and I see all these guys marrying fat chicks. Disgusting. I think about these guys, and these fat chicks, and it makes me want to vomit. I just figure these guys either have psychological issues, or those fat chicks are rich, or something. Because I wouldn't want to marry a fat chick. I can't imagine anyone wanting to marry a fat chick. Gross.Now, can anyone explain to me the difference between this statement and the majority of the statements on this thread?

Confrontation 6 years, 10 months ago

Wow! He's almost as bad as John McCain! At least this old man isn't married, cheating on his spouse, and betraying a woman who waited on him until after he came back from the war.

i_have_only_valid_opinions 6 years, 10 months ago

multi...what happens in the cowboy way? haven't seen it. is milking one of your "disciplines" i guess?

twinetowngirl 6 years, 10 months ago

I am really ashamed of some of you people. Age is just a number, and if THEY are happy...who cares!! It doesn't affect you in any way, Love knows no bounderies or age limits.

OldEnuf2BYurDad 6 years, 10 months ago

I need to amend my prior post...Their age is only 1/8 of the reason they won't make it. She has only known him 3 weeks! That's 9/8 of the reason, making it 120% sure to fail.I'll make this statement and stand by it: He's being very selfish. He's old enough to know how poorly this will turn out for her. For him, it is companionship; but for her, I cannot see this really being very fulfilling. He is old enough to be able to know that. So old dude: if you really love her, why not tell her she's about to screw up her first marriage?

bearded_gnome 6 years, 10 months ago

marioni says:You're all fine and well about Silverman, et. al. but want to pick on this couple because of the age difference.---eh, "silverman?" who's dat? as I posted at my first post, she is an adult with adult freedoms and adult responsibilities. she has made her choice. and, at every wedding there's humor...well except at blurry-mike's/man who walks with foot in mouth. 'course, no woman would marry such an embittered angry slug. so, I guess we have to cut him some slack, he wouldn't know about humor at weddings.
northtown ...LOL. ***I just don't get why this occupies bandwidth on the ljworld at all.

Bone777 6 years, 10 months ago

Wow Marion, Still hoping you will be some young gals 'Popeye'. I don't think sitting in the wee hours of the night on your computer, in various states of undress, quoting old songs is going to get it done.Take a page from White Owls book, Grow your hair out, shred your pants, hoot, holler, and invent your own doofus dance at the KU games, and hang around the campus, like some sort of offender, and hope some niave dreamer happens by...

kansas778 6 years, 10 months ago

Parents: show this video to your daughters and you won't ever have to worry about them smoking pot.

Mike Blur 6 years, 10 months ago

What about the Biblical sacrosanct of a marriage be only between man and woman? Doesn't this marriage meet the approval of God, and Ceiling Cat? I notice craigers is extremely quiet here. For that, I give him huge props. Biblical realist he is, he is tacitly in approval of this union. He will not come out and say it, however.Any of you who allegedly believe in the Bible and God, and at the same time decry this union between a man and woman, are subject to possible eternal damnation. One idiot that comes to mind is bearded_gnome. You invoke the name of God in many of these ljworld forums, yet you mock and belittle this union. I wouldn't want to be next to you the day you meet our God/Ceiling Cat.There are several examples of marriages in the Bible of couples with much greater age differences than WO and J. So, do you all disapprove of the Almighty-blessed unions of old-guy and lesser-older chick? Hypocrites.Gnome and multi, you are both candidates for the "ninth circle." Have either WO or Julia aggrieved you in any way to earn your scorn?One final note--multi-moron--like God and Ceiling Cat, I approve of this union. I'm 44 years old, and you can access pictures of me and my friends through my myspace page:myspace.com/muckwit"Muckwit" is my Indian name, given to me by my elders at age 4 months. Anything else you got? Multi, any pics of you on the 'net?Plea to WO and Julia: create a myspace page for your upcoming union. I'd like to be apprised of the event.

morganlefay 6 years, 10 months ago

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auturgy 6 years, 10 months ago

at least their maturity levels will match(kidding! kind of)congratulations for love.

BigPrune 6 years, 10 months ago

Multidisciplinary (Anonymous) says: I can only back that up with one person diva, even he was amazed..the rest are closer to udder tips..headed south and like really limp old celery..or maybe a slinky.(things a previous 18 yr old girl never wants to grow old enough to know!)What about a Big Prune?

BigPrune 6 years, 10 months ago

The headline reads..."A popular Lawrence figure..." Since when did this guy become popular?

penguin 6 years, 10 months ago

I personally could care less about the marriage, but do wonder if now she will join his ranting campaign on campus. The article from the UDK on their upcoming wedding claims he has only been around KU for a year. I find it equally humorous that this seems to coincide with the fact that those above 60 are allowed to enroll in KU classes for free. Overall, I think that his star is beginning to fade. Many of the friends who found his antics mildly funny at Football games are starting to sour on him. This comes from the "cheering" that has interrupted classes to his presence at graduation. Oh well, he too shall fade away.The article on this engagement from the UDK has an interesting discussion thread too: http://www.kansan.com/stories/2008/jun/16/university_celebrity_white_owl_gets_engaged/especially from the person who posts as White Owl

maxcrabb 6 years, 10 months ago

You should all get out of retirement, quit sitting online reading the LJWorld all day, and get a life.OR you should all quit sitting online and reading the LJWorld and get back to work.OR you should all quit sitting online and reading the LJWorld and get back to class.I'm going outside.

LadyJ 6 years, 10 months ago

For some odd reason it makes me think of Tiny Tim and his bride, was it Miss Lucy maybe? Hope it works out better than Tiny Tim's.

Bone777 6 years, 10 months ago

I'm no doctor, but by the appearance of her behavior, mannerisms and motor function, she seems to be suffering from a mild dose of rohypnol and a severe astigmatism...

bearded_gnome 6 years, 10 months ago

If you're going to buy a young cow for the milk, you must be able to catch said cow. (No insult meant).---this was funny! and, accurate. hey, white owl, billy mays is selling health insurance now!

jonas 6 years, 10 months ago

You're behind the times, Gnome. I've been home for over two weeks.I wonder why a great many things are in the paper. But clearly you can call it newsworthy by the number of comments alone. Surely you're not going to claim that our media is (cough) above such things.

LadyJ 6 years, 10 months ago

Someone needs to put on of those leather hoods that they put on falcons onto hawk's head so he can't see. Teathering his feet wouldn't be a bad idea either.

bearded_gnome 6 years, 10 months ago

Someone needs to put on of those leather hoods that they put on falcons onto hawk's head so he can't see. Teathering his feet wouldn't be a bad idea either.--LOL!better watch it multidisciplinary! you know "man who walks with foot in mouth" will get mad at you again! he might threaten you again with some obscure native american ritual nobody understands, AGAIN! or, you might just bestir him to post again with meaningless drivvel reflecting his reading comprehension problems! you just better watch it there MD! you don't want "man who walks with foot in mouth" to tie a feather to a pencil and wave it slowly counter clockwise while chanting your name! oh, no! be afraid, be very afraid!
thanks for the link, above, to the udk's article/comments. should be interesting. two people, in love. there is something that is in common between them. I too worry that this is awefully sudden, regardless of their age difference. God bless them, and i hope it does work. I do wonder if ol' white owl really knows what he's gotten himself in for. yes, I'm more concerned about him than her.

Bone777 6 years, 10 months ago

mike_blur - 'examples of marriages in the Bible of couples with much greater age differences' was around the same time that people were marrying multiple wives, sacrificing animals, and giving towns like Sodom, their namesake...Nice try...

Crossfire 6 years, 10 months ago

If it makes you happyIt can't be that bad

bearded_gnome 6 years, 10 months ago

just read at the udk site. wasn't aware of the drug connection, that is if that last post there is from 'owl' himself. if it is, this guy shouldn't be allowed on the ku campus. attend/audit classes free, fine, dopers, no. *and the most troubling part of the article:this dude was invited to speak at the American Studies class? honestly, most of us posters on the award-winning ljworld comment threads would make better guests! I am quite serious! c'mon, american Studies gettin' hard up for filling out their sylabi lately? if so, gimme a call! I can help. instead of listening to 'white owl' how 'bout teaching: who Sherman was; lincoln's 90-day enlistments; the guano war; 1880's tax policy; george washington's wooden teeth; george washington was quite oh, should read "syllabi. please resume normal behavior, at least for lawrence residents. a dancer and charmer of the ladies; fdr's handicap/disability; truman's experience with mules in the army; hoover causing the great depression in part by paying off the national debt; etc.!really, this is indictment of american Studies profs at KU! or, maybe its not a prof, but a GPA? sad.

jonas 6 years, 10 months ago

Gnome: The work was very successful, thank you. My point was just that the story could, apparently, be considered interesting. I must admit that it intrigued me, having encountered White Owl and his. . . unique personality, up on the hill. I also, though, have to question the usage of the word "popular." "Well known" probably would have been more accurate, as White Owl irritates more people than he intrigues, I would say.

bearded_gnome 6 years, 10 months ago

oh, well, welcome home Jonas! hope your work was very successful. well, as to the comments, are you ascerting they are representative of anything beyond the random thoughts of those with time and inclination to post? seriously, this isn't really a news story, and why does 'owl' get so much attention. oh well. and, as commented above, a 61 year old woman and a 22 year old man, story? well, term for that is cougar.

Sigmund 6 years, 10 months ago

00 (Anonymous) says: "Someday (sooner rather than later) she's gonna "rock his world":.or just plain do something to/with his rocks:and the old man's gonna have a fatal heart attack!"Everyone dies, and what a great way to go.Multidisciplinary (Anonymous) says: "If you're going to buy a young cow for the milk, you must be able to catch said cow."In the long term you are better off leasing a young cow and trading it in every couple of years.maxcrabb (Anonymous) says: "You should all get out of retirement, quit sitting online reading the LJWorld all day, and get a life."You too!Seriously he is only 61? He looks more like 91. But I bet he has a "great personality." (See how stupid that sounds girls?)

geekin_topekan 6 years, 10 months ago

Trinity,youve been here many moons.When has this board EVER been anything but junior high?If it weren't,I would quit reading.It goes hand in hand with the comics section.It's stupid,predictable,harmless and has absolutely no impact on daily living but,it is just a part of the daily grind and if I couldn't wake to it...I would be sad.

bearded_gnome 6 years, 10 months ago

hey, blurry mike:your indian name translates to "man who walks with foot in mouth!" you are once again proving the hostile and virulent person I have described you to be. I have made some humor, but look at other things I've written, and compared to others, I'm actually encouraging them here! your comments obviously actually reflec the fact I have shown you for who you really are, and you are very hateful about it. here's some quotes from above:"3. at age 22, she is an adult with adult choice and responsibility.4. automatically presuming various assumptions about them? right." gnome:."proves;:a nice beard is very sexy.now, still wondering:why is this in the paper?white owl is a ku fan at many games? goes to ku classes? okay, so?re the rockefeller ref:what a way to go, wouldn't you think?and, being married to her might just prolong his life and his mind." --gnome

jonas 6 years, 10 months ago

Ah, c'mon Gnome let's not be totally naive. There are lots of "dopers" who are already attending classes, some of them for free, I'm sure, under the age policy. Some of them are fairly productive, too. He didn't say anything about drugs on campus, just a line of BS about thoughts he's had on LSD. Most everything that comes out of his mouth is BS, though, having talked to him a few times. He's a panderer after attention, but certainly fairly harmless. Unless, perhaps, you marry him when you've only known him for a month. But that's all variable.

BigPrune 6 years, 10 months ago

"Charlie was always wanting to get the family together up at the ranch. He was all about the orgy man, bwahahahaha. Orgy this and orgy that. He was the Messiah." - Tex Watson

pace 6 years, 10 months ago

i wish them luck and love. several of us women were sitting around recalling the young men we had married., when we were young, not so nice. A man who is kind and supportive at 60 is better than a twenty two year old who is looking out only for himself. If these people love each other , i say wish them the best. At least they aren't judgemental narrow minded prigs who sit around and say crap about people they don't know. I find the abusive nature of many of the comments at bit like chickens clucking and plucking.Somr of you think he is too loud and laughs funny, you ever sit night after night with someone who never want to do anything but sit and stare at the tube, never go anywhere and hasn't laughed since 1983.By the way , the young couple next door, they are the same age, they seem happy, both are kind and supportive of each other, so i am not saying the only way to happiness is being an old man's darling.

bearded_gnome 6 years, 10 months ago

There are several examples of marriages in the Bible of couples with much greater age differences than WO and J. So, do you all disapprove of the Almighty-blessedunions of old-guy and lesser-older chick? Hypocrites.---blurry-mikehe's one of the far left fringies who love to cite the Bible, but totally refuse to submit to what it teaches. now, who's really the hypocrite? furthermore, Blurry-mike, God does have a sense of humor. you, apparently, do not. hmmm, which of us is more like God then? many have appreciated my humor on these threads. you, on the other hand, are humorless, virulent, hostile, and have a big chip on your shoulder. is it because you're an indian? is it because you were a prof? is it just a mental disorder? your post reflects much more of you and your mind, than it does about me. anyone reading will obviously spot your hate, and taking things out of context. you happily ignored the quotes I just posted, because they would get in the way of your hate-filled rant! and, that rant was what it was really about, wasn't it? blurry-mike, it must really trouble that nobody really accepts your self-aggrandising yet empty pronouncements about the swamplands, etc. you sit at the pig and echo your catch cliches with the other latte liberal morons at the "pig," and your head ferments, doesn't it?

beatrice 6 years, 10 months ago

"If she were 61 and he was 22:.now that would be a story!"Indeed. The mathematics are against their having a successful marriage. Simple math tells us that 22 goes into 61 a lot more that 61 goes into 22. What is this girl thinking?Some call him White Owl. John McCain simply calls him "youngster."

compmd 6 years, 10 months ago

I really think that we should start a pool to see if we can make this thread live longer than the marriage. You know, for fun. Who's with me?

Bone777 6 years, 10 months ago

Marion, You are going to have to live vicariously through White Owl. Just because one old white haired dude scored a young chick, doesn't mean it is going to happen to them all. You can always dream..."Oh Olive, Oh Marion, tee hee hee"

camper 6 years, 10 months ago

Does anyone else see a similarity to Charles Manson? Young girls should be aware of older "gents" who proclaim to be gurus.Who am I to say though? I ain't tryin to be the love police, because gossips are usually wrong, and you gotta dodge them.

BigPrune 6 years, 10 months ago

Imagine listening to that laugh every day.

trinity 6 years, 10 months ago

this is-incredible. the whole white owl/young thing marriage is kind of skeevy to me, but that's just me. the more i read, though, the more sad i get that some of you seem to be taking such delight in making fun of those two. so, you're top-notch, perfect, beautiful people eh? well good for you. and md-you seem to need to post on&on about your experiences, ad nauseum-why is that, exactly? if you are as been there/done that as you seem eager for people to believe, you're wastin' your time on here. write a book. for pete's sweet sake, be icked out and feel all oogey over this if you need to-but really, the junior high behavior is just over the top.

bearded_gnome 6 years, 10 months ago

well Jonas, how ya' doin' on the far side of the earth? just listened to Zappa's "dumb all over." that's some music. oh, I have no doubt there are people running on E85, pot, etc., even teaching. having been a student at KU, I saw the range of profs too. my major comment here Jonas was, jonas, why is this even in the paper?

beatrice 6 years, 10 months ago

A little perspective on the age difference: He was of college age when the Beatles were at their peak, and John Lennon had been dead for six years when she was born.Okay, I admit posting this on the related story, but thought I would share it with those playing at this side of the pool.Pace, not all men her age only think of themselves. And if you believe a 61 year old going after a 22 year old isn't thinking about himself first, then you have some major rose-colored glasses on. They have the right to choose this relationship and I do wish them happiness. But the best case scenario here has her as a widow while in her 40s or, at best, 50s, having spent time caring for an old man. That isn't a good thing for her.

angel4dennis 6 years, 10 months ago

Who are we to judge this couple? As long as it isn't my daughter, I would say love knows no age. If it was my daughter, I would cut her off and hope his pension would support her KU bill.

fu7il3 6 years, 10 months ago

Fun food for thought:Billboard Top 5 for 1947, 61 years ago.1. Francis Craig "Near You"2. Harmonocats "Peg O' My Heart"3. Ted Weems "Heartache"4. Ray Noble Orchestra w/ Buddy Clark "Linda"5. Tex Williams "Smoke, Smoke, Smoke (That Cigarette)"19861. Dione Warwick and Friends "That's What Friends are For"2. Lionel Richie "Say you, Say me."3. Klymaxx "I Miss You"4. Patti Labelle/Michael Donald "On My Own"5. Mr. Mister "Broken Wings"For extra fun, check out the top 5 for each when they were 16. White Owl's got pop favorites like "My Boyfriend's Back" and "Hey Paula." Julia has such time-honored classics as Nickelback's "How You Remind Me" and Nelly's "Hot in Herre."

JSDAD 6 years, 10 months ago

cool, but on the otherhand kind of creepy to know it will be like crawlin in with grandpa.

fu7il3 6 years, 10 months ago

According to the bride's interview in the UDK, they are planning on having children right after marriage. Maybe you should just skip the china and get them a baby carriage.

Jeff Kilgore 6 years, 10 months ago

Has anyone put an over / under on the length of the marriage? Should be figured in months.

fu7il3 6 years, 10 months ago

Exactly, he needs to act quickly. He's had a hard life. He could be dead tommorrow.

KansasPerson 6 years, 10 months ago

The short length of time the couple has known each other raised my eyebrows even more than the age difference.I have experienced the first flush of infatuation, same as everyone else. I've had the conversations that last for hours and hours. You don't get married on the basis of these things. These constitute the getting-to-know-you phase, and if you're delighted with what you find, hooray! Get to know the person even better, over a few months at least. I think a year would be the bare minimum for me. Of course, I wasn't 61 when I was dating, so I had a bit more time to spare.

penguin 6 years, 10 months ago

http://www.kansan.com/stories/2008/jun/24/q_and_a/?newsJust read the UDK article...it is pretty sad. They are planning to live on his disability check, she is dropping out of school, and they want kids....wow I am just at a loss for words.This article just makes things sound even crazier.

Newell_Post 6 years, 10 months ago

White Owl:In the immortal words of Sigmund Freud (and allegedly Bill Clinton) "sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."

rumor_man 6 years, 10 months ago

Does anyone know where this fine couple is registered?I'd like to get them some china or some towels.

Satirical 6 years, 10 months ago

Best comment thus far:Kansas778: "Parents: show this video to your daughters and you won't ever have to worry about them smoking pot."Life is all about your version of reality.

OldEnuf2BYurDad 6 years, 10 months ago

Hey, I saw him today! His car is just as "interesting" as he is. Dude has a lead foot, too.

samsnewplace 6 years, 10 months ago

I think the 22 year old needs some psychiatric help and fast as her brain cells have all but vanished! Most ridiculious story i've ever read.

Newell_Post 6 years, 10 months ago

(Dr. Sigmoid): Your mother has spoken to me about your marriage plan and although I have nothing against marriage, I don't think this is quite... normal.A very common neurosis, particularly in this society, whereby the male child subconsciously wishes to sleep with his mother.Of course, what puzzles me, Harold, is that you want to sleep with your grandmother. --- Harold and Maude, 1971

fu7il3 6 years, 10 months ago

She's marrying a 61 year old hippie with no job, dropping out of college because she feels there is no point in getting a degree, and having childred with said hippie while they live off his disability.I really don't see why her dad has such a problem with this.

Richard Heckler 6 years, 10 months ago

This woman knows she could have most any man as she does have sex appeal and brain cells.

Richard Heckler 6 years, 10 months ago

His disability check likely comes to her if he kicks the bucket so what is the big deal. Life could be worse. This way they can have more time having fun instead of being too old to have fun. After all maybe one of the secrets to marriage is to keep on having fun. Having fun and enjoying life with someone is not a bad idea.Yep life will go on bothers and sisters.His disability pension keeps them out of the job market therefore leaving jobs open for those who actually need one. That is community spirit and generous.

crane13 6 years, 9 months ago

i think you guys got it covered, how bout white owl's laugh? sounds like mine after roughly 50 bong hits

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