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Supporters of city bus system win last-minute victory

August 12, 2008 · Comment on this

Supporters of the city's bus system won a last-minute victory at City Hall Tuesday night.

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Baille 6 years, 4 months ago

"Diverting alcohol tax money to the police is bad, should go to alcohol and drug counseling."Absolutely. Alcoholism and drug addiction are public health issues more than anything else. The campaign to stop the supply is more about big money lining deep pockets and agency protectionism than it is about addressing our drug problem.

sourpuss 6 years, 4 months ago

The only way Lawrence is going to thrive in the new economy will be to invest in and support public transit. Granted, the T sucks, but that is because 1) it is poorly designed and 2) creating an efficient public transit system in an essentially suburban environment is difficult. The population is not dense enough to serve many people well. However, the routes could be reconfigured to make the system more useful. Lawrence also needs to work with KC and Topeka to install light rail between the cities to keep commuting a possibility. It is unfortunate, however, that many midwesterners seem to be automatons on autopilot about their own lifestyles. Well, perhaps it will just take a generation dying off to see any reasonableness return to America.

BigPrune 6 years, 4 months ago

Fox News reports that a dead Bigfoot has been found in Northern Georgia and there is a body. http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=3020481&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,402882,00.htmlCNN reports the Chupacabra has been found alive in Texas.http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/08/12/pkg.tx.chupucabra.kensIf Lawrence passes this sales tax and Obama wins the election then we are DEFINITELY in the end times!

Richard Heckler 6 years, 4 months ago

Not developing public transportation= fiscal non sense

pace 6 years, 4 months ago

I will vote for the two increases for public transportation. More people will need it, it will help both people and businesses. Diverting alcohol tax money to the police is bad, should go to alcohol and drug counseling.

Brent Garner 6 years, 4 months ago

No on taxes! Am paying too much already!

graylanternlizard 6 years, 4 months ago

I will be voting against the tax increases.

Godot 6 years, 4 months ago

The question is not why aren't people riding the T, the question is, why did the City of Lawrence commit to spending millions of dollars to provide a service for which there was was miniuscule need to begin with? And, then, years later, after the T has proven not to serve the community in any meaningful way, and now that it is proven that there is no demonstrated need by any but a tiny percentage of the community, and the costs have skyrocketed, why did not the commission make the fiscally responsible decision to shut down the T when the MV contract ran out in June?

Flap Doodle 6 years, 4 months ago

And there is nothing marion can do about it!

notajayhawk 6 years, 4 months ago

I love all the commenters who insist that people will support the T. The question they never want to answer is - why haven't they been doing so?

sjschlag 6 years, 4 months ago

"The question is not why aren't people riding the T, the question is, why did the City of Lawrence commit to spending millions of dollars to provide a service for which there was was miniuscule need to begin with?"There was a need to begin with- It just wasn't met before. The question as to why people are not riding the T is simple- it is far to inconvenient in it's current state for anyone to use. There are some routes that do a decent job (#8, #7, and #6) of shuttling people from Downtown to wal-mart, but the frequency is so low that going to the grocery store turns into a two-hour ordeal. Nobody likes waiting for the next bus to come, especially when that bus comes every hour and twenty minutes. Low frequency, meandering routes, all of these contribute to low ridership as much as higher fares. If this community decides that they want public transit, and it will, the routes should be completely re-designed. We should focus our efforts on servicing areas that have high demand for public transit. We should focus on connecting areas of high demand for transit service to city services and assets that are also in high demand. Above all, we should focus on making the bus system convenient and easy to use for all people who have access to it. Make frequencies every 20-30 minutes or less. Lower the journey time to anywhere in the city from an hour and 20 minutes to 40 minutes. Synchronize the T routes with the KU routes. Are these goals so hard for us to accomplish? Apparently, since we haven't done them yet. Yes, providing access to the community is important, but in doing so we have created a system which will never grow.

bearded_gnome 6 years, 4 months ago

everyone has an opinion about why there isn't the ridership on the fixed-route that we'd hope to see. one of the speakers last night, and commissioner Hack, made the point that for the vote in November, and the future of the T, it is important to put together a carefully considered answer to the question: "why aren't people riding the T?" the T has figures on its riders and why they're there, but that doesn't really address the low ridership. even Wichita has good ridership increases lately. I personally have ideas why the poor design of the current system has in fact discouraged riders. but again these are my opinions. let's get this answered. *Perhaps, rather than being mad at the person who mows lawns, you're really angry at the gal/guy you see in the mirror every day. Angry that you can't beas happy as the person who mows lawns. Angry that the person who mows lawns might** just be making more money, with less time and effort, than you. Angrythat the person with seasonal employment has carved out a living for themselves, that allows lots of free time, while you remain chained to a desk 40 hoursa week.---I love it when elitist Ag tries to be amateur psychologist while demonizing those with whom he/she disagrees! its as funny as when Aggie acts like an expert on conservative Christians, or political conservatives. remember, once Aggie claimed ethanol wasn't causing food prices to rise, or famine to spread throughout the world. I criticized him, and he called me on it. I, and others, then bombarded him/her with dozens of articles proving me right.curiously, Aggie just didn't post again on that April '08 world hunger article. wonder why.

storm 6 years, 4 months ago

sourpuss - excellent points, I agree the system could be reconfigured to work in this city. I will add - As it took two generations to show smoking is detrimental to our health, it may take two generations to prove sidewalks (they're bringing them back in planning), and providing public transit are actually beneficial.

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