Letter: NRA sway?

"It's not fair to compare cities? Is this because it goes against your views? "

Umm, did you read my reason why? Does that not make any sense to you? Can you explain why the Southern U.S. region which has characteristically the loosest gun control laws has the highest rates of gun violence?

" Must be tough when facts go against your theory and phd's."

Yur faks our kinda funnay......

"Campus was brought up because most university's are extremely liberal as are most of the sources you cited.."

Ad hominem much? Will you be addressing what's actually written, or will you continue to attack the source just like a good Limbaugh follower?

"Your assumptions that I am angry are completely false as are your theories"

Yeah, it's hard to believe such a thing with someone posts so many ??????, and !!!!, not to mention telling someone to "crawl back into a liberal rock," because that kind of talk and usage of end punctuations.....

"Sorry to prove your 90% wrong by using your own source but it is a fact..."

Uhh, ok champ, if you say so. You're beginning to sound like someone I've argued with before who changes his name numerous times in the past. Not exactly sure yet.

April 21, 2013 at 11:24 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Letter: NRA sway?

"Please mention the added measures in this bill as well... "

Please enlighten us and explain yourself.

"Background checks already exist, and no matter how many laws you have about who, what gun, and where it is purchased you make your still not getting guns out of the hands of criminals! "

They do not exist on a federal level, which as I explained above to you makes it a bit complicated to go after those criminals and lower the violent gun crimes when they're bringing in guns from other states and areas in those same states (like Chicago) where they have looser gun control laws. And that includes no background checks either.

Again, what on earth are you so afraid of with background checks? It's almost like borderline paranoia with you.

The rest of your post is more of the same NRA drivel about enforcing existing laws and educating people on guns, which I guess is a cute way of saying it's everyone else's fault for all the gun violence and mass murders. It's a sad dodge, and it's tedious.

April 21, 2013 at 11:13 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Letter: NRA sway?

"Please show the class how background checks have stopped criminals from getting guns to this point... We know you cant, because it hasn't worked..."

I also can't show how lightning strikes won't kill people if you don't stand in particular places outside, but that doesn't negate my point now does it?

I can demonstrate, however, that 80% of gun sales are purchased privately via through unlicensed gun show dealers or other sellers that are exempt from running background checks under federal law:

http://www.jhsph.edu/research/centers...

And also keep in mind about James Holmes and Seung-Hui Cho, who bought their guns legally. And although Cho passed his background check, it was because Virginia had ridiculously lax standards on their checks and didn't see his mental illness, which was clearly documented, as a red flag.

So it clearly goes to follow that background checks could very well indeed help. The real question I guess that should be asked is, what on earth are you afraid of with having a background check?

"Stop being angry with legal gun owners and try going after the criminals... I know, it sounds crazy.. "

Nothing crazy about it. I'm all for enforcing the laws already put in place. I just think having a minimal law of background checks, which the broad majority of Americans both Conservative and Liberals as well as NRA members clearly support. Again, the question is, what are you so afraid of?

April 21, 2013 at 11:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Letter: NRA sway?

"That's funny on March 26 CNN did a poll that showed support for new gun control legislation had dropped to 46% and that nationwide support was only up to 57% just after the Newtown shootings.."

Yeah, I'm aware of polls like this. Unfortunately, Americans by and large are morons with short-term memories and attention deficit disorders by and large. Nothing surprising that support waned over time.

". I know your news is from campuses, and liberal sources but please look at gun control support as a whole..."

So it's fair to assume you didn't even read it then? And what's with the "campuses" talk? I haven't been in school for years now. Or are you afraid of those darned PhD degrees with all their brains and smartness and stuff? Yeah, their intelligence is pwetty scarwy to me too.

Wait, I forgot a few question marks, here ya go: ??????

"You can also compare Houston to Chicago for the year 2012 and see that almost 1/3 of the murders in a city that allows guns..."

Comparing one city to another is a bit of a poor gauge on this issue. Every city and state have their own laws with little federal involvement whatsoever. The consequence, of course, is the difficulty of comparison. Again, if you look at Chicago's crime rates via gun violence, you see that those guns are coming from other places in Illinois or across their borders like in Indiana:

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/15...

That's a bit difficult to compare to that of Houston, which becomes a complete apples to oranges comparison. But it is interesting to note which is the most violent region in our country, which happens to have the loosest gun restrictions (South):

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/w...

"Now crawl back under your liberal rock and try to over react to something else... "

You're cute when you get annoyed. I think it's fair to assume it's not I who's "over reacting"......

April 21, 2013 at 11:02 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Letter: NRA sway?

."Also your 90% is completely fabricated.."

Except when it's not:

*Washington Post-ABC News poll, April 11-14, 2013: "Would you support or oppose a law requiring background checks on people buying guns at gun shows or online?" Support: 86 percent. Oppose: 13 percent.

• CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll, April 5-7, 2013: "Some proposals would require a background check on anyone attempting to purchase a gun in order to determine whether the prospective buyer has been convicted of a felony or has a mental health problem. Please tell me whether you would favor or oppose a background check for a prospective gun buyer under each of the following circumstances. ... If the buyer is trying to purchase a gun at a gun show." Favor: 83 percent. Oppose: 17 percent.

"If the buyer is trying to purchase a gun from another person who is not a gun dealer but owns one or more guns and wants to sell one of them." Favor: 70 percent. Oppose: 29 percent.

"If the buyer is purchasing a gun from a family member or receiving it as a gift." Favor: 54 percent. Oppose: 45 percent.

"Please tell me whether you would favor or oppose a background check for anyone who wants to buy ammunition for a gun." Favor: 55 percent. Oppose: 44 percent.

• Quinnipiac University poll, March 26-April 1, 2013. "Do you support or oppose requiring background checks for all gun buyers?" Support: 91 percent. Oppose: 8 percent.

• CBS News poll, March 20-24, 2013. "Would you favor or oppose background checks on all potential gun buyers?" Favor: 90 percent. Oppose: 8 percent.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-met...

Yeah, all those silly little polls just lie, lie, and lie some more, at least on Faux News and Limbaugh's show. I'm sure you're a hip hoppin' fan of both.....

" If liberals don't like guns there is a place where guns are illegal, the people are liberal and they dye the river green!!! Chicago is beautiful!!! With its high rise buildings, beautiful lake, shopping, and what's that?? Oh, the highest murder rate in the country... How can that be, guns are illegal in Chicago??? Wait, criminals don't follow laws?? I'm shocked!!! "

I can't hear you very well. Can you please use a few more question marks and exclamation points so I can hear you better?

Not that I believe you'd read this, but it is a good read for others who are interested:

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013...

Have a lovely day, angry fella!

April 21, 2013 at 8:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Letter: NRA sway?

So you agree that the majority of Americans through multiple polling from multiple polling sites want background checks, including NRA members, and that you've been completely ignorant of those said statistics?

Good, I'm glad we got that out of the way.

"As is yours believing a law will stop a mentally ill person from using a gun to murder."

Or a rhinoceros running through your living room? Yeah, I know, infinitesimally small probability of such events occurring. It didn't really help that his mom was one of the crazy economic doomsday believer:

http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/lo...

Can't imagine where she would get such a line of thinking - certainly isn't from watching Rachel Maddow I'll bet. But I digress.

But this issue isn't about one gunman and one horrific incident, at least for me. If it were your point would be valid. Fortunately, you have no validity at all.....

April 21, 2013 at 2:24 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Letter: NRA sway?

Both have majority support, the former regarding ammunition, the latter regarding background checks. The latter was also the whole point of this bill and discussion. Furthermore, there are at least 3 other polls that support the range close to 90% regarding background checks.

I'm sorry, what was your point again, or did you really have one?

April 21, 2013 at 2:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Letter: NRA sway?

Washington Post/ABC news (86%)

CNN/Opinion Research Corp (83%)

CBS News (90%)

....oh yeah, and the Quinnipac Poll (91%).

Your ignorance must truly be blissful for you.

April 20, 2013 at 9:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Letter: NRA sway?

As with all sources, it's worth trusting if they have had good credibility in the past, but you can still verify at any time. That's what separates us silly Libs from the Limbaugh zombies and FreeRepublic/WorldNetDaily nuts - when we verify their sources, they have a propensity of being quite correct:

• Washington Post-ABC News poll, April 11-14, 2013: "Would you support or oppose a law requiring background checks on people buying guns at gun shows or online?" Support: 86 percent. Oppose: 13 percent.

• CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll, April 5-7, 2013: "Some proposals would require a background check on anyone attempting to purchase a gun in order to determine whether the prospective buyer has been convicted of a felony or has a mental health problem. Please tell me whether you would favor or oppose a background check for a prospective gun buyer under each of the following circumstances. ... If the buyer is trying to purchase a gun at a gun show." Favor: 83 percent. Oppose: 17 percent.

"If the buyer is trying to purchase a gun from another person who is not a gun dealer but owns one or more guns and wants to sell one of them." Favor: 70 percent. Oppose: 29 percent.

"If the buyer is purchasing a gun from a family member or receiving it as a gift." Favor: 54 percent. Oppose: 45 percent.

"Please tell me whether you would favor or oppose a background check for anyone who wants to buy ammunition for a gun." Favor: 55 percent. Oppose: 44 percent.

• Quinnipiac University poll, March 26-April 1, 2013. "Do you support or oppose requiring background checks for all gun buyers?" Support: 91 percent. Oppose: 8 percent.

• CBS News poll, March 20-24, 2013. "Would you favor or oppose background checks on all potential gun buyers?" Favor: 90 percent. Oppose: 8 percent.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-met...

Better? No? Well here's a couple more that demonstrate wide support from NRA members or individuals with NRA members in their households:

http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/1207...

http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/1207...

Funny how that works, ain't it?

April 20, 2013 at 9:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Letter: NRA sway?

Umm, huh? What are you talking about? Armstrong stated he guessed there was support for that claim that appleday (and Jon Stewart) made, and I gave it to him with several sources. What the heck difference does it make what LarryNative, you, Limbaugh, or Armstrong state with asinine skepticism? If you have difficulty believing what Jon Stewart says even though it's widely supported by the sources I gave you, that's truly your own silly ignorance to deal with here, and no one else.

April 20, 2013 at 8:58 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )