Opinion: Scandals undermine trust in Obama

" The fact that this administration lied to the American people is a fact."

Such as?

" The fact that urgent requests for security prior to the attacks has not been addressed in any of your links so I have to believe those emails were legitamate and ignored by the state department. "

Again you are keen at moving the goal posts. You ask me specifically about a link to altered emails by the GOP and I provided it. Now you demand that same source address something that wasn't intended to address in the first place. Regardless, I'll be happy to talk about that if you can please address why the House GOP continually voted to defund Embassy security time and again:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinion...

As for Hicks' testimony, again you're welcome to hang your hat on it, but that GOP talking point attempting to nail Hillary fell flat:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinion...

I think what's also worth noting is that you don't hear one GOP Congressman talk about how to fix these Embassy problems now. Instead, they are hellbent on making a political "scandal" out of this - again, this only proves my initial point about how the GOP does not want to, nor do they appear to be able to actually legislate well in any manner.

May 19, 2013 at 11:16 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Opinion: Scandals undermine trust in Obama

" there is nothing in any of the links you have provided that negates the fact that the talking points were altered to depict an entirely different accounting of the events that transpired in Beghazi on 9/11. "

That wasn't the point of what I posted nor was it the point of showing that a Republican congressman altered the emails that were given. And once the White House released those emails in question, it became obvious that the GOP deliberately obfuscated what was written. And if you noticed something that was repeated months ago when these emails were given to Congress and were just recently given to the public:

"The internal debate did not include political interference from the White House, according to the e-mails, which were provided to congressional intelligence committees several months ago."
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/20...

For Wingnut language, that means that Communist Kenyan wasn't actually involved with infighting occurring between the CIA and the State Dept. What you call "altered" is the process of what was occurring as the facts were rolling in between the intelligence that the CIA and State Department were receiving.

You'll also notice something else important, again from the link above:

"According to the e-mails and initial CIA-drafted talking points, the agency believed the attack included a mix of Islamist extremists from Ansar al-Sharia, a group affiliated with al-Qaeda, and angry demonstrators.

White House officials did not challenge that analysis, the e-mails show, nor did they object to its inclusion in the public talking points."

And quite honestly, it's hilariously bad to see how much you Wingers trip over yourselves with not "Act of Terror" (said by Obama the day after the attack) somehow not the same as a "Terrorist Act". But hey, you guys are your own worst enemy, so again please proceed, Governor.

"If emails were altered, it appears to be very minor and brought up only to discredit the Republicans."

Nice attempt to temper this apparent obfuscation by a Republican Congressman to the American public in attempts to make it appear that the WH was involved in the decision-making process, when in fact further examination of those emails (that the WH released themselves a few days ago) clearly demonstrate otherwise. And the Republicans discredited themselves with this, not the media or anyone else that pointed out their deliberate attempts.

May 19, 2013 at 11:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Opinion: Scandals undermine trust in Obama

You keep holding on to that idea. It's kinda cute and almost endearing to watch you guys struggle with it all.....

May 19, 2013 at 3:50 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Opinion: Scandals undermine trust in Obama

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162...

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/...

http://www.politicususa.com/republica...

http://www.politicususa.com/press-con...

May 19, 2013 at 3:49 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Opinion: Scandals undermine trust in Obama

"Oh well then...just because there is a lot evidence pointing to wrong doing does not warrant further investigation because the polls say that it hasn't hurt either Obama or Hillary in the popularity polls. Gotcha'. "

Which contradicts squarely with what I said when I mentioned this: "But hey, if you think it's hurting the POTUS or Hillary in any way, by all means keep it up."

i.e., investigate away. Nothing points to the White House being in direct trouble with any of the scandals. My personal beef is the A.P. one, but unfortunately Obama is doing a much better job at this than his predecessor did, despite the fact that he hasn't broken any laws. Benghazi hasn't hurt the president nor has it hurt Hillary, except in the minds of the Wingnuts and Faux News watchers (not surprising at all). And as stated previously, the newest revelation of a Republican Congressman doctoring the emails that were given to ABC news doesn't help the GOP case in any way. And Obama wants the IRS problem investigated fully, as does nearly all Democrats (who were equally angry at the hearing yesterday), but again it's pretty obvious thus far nothing points to WH interference at all.

And so to summarize, it's obvious that Obama as well as myself wants full investigations, and it's also obvious that so far they haven't hurt him or Hillary in any way (except to those who hate him, which doesn't really matter to him in the first place).

May 19, 2013 at 3:43 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Opinion: Scandals undermine trust in Obama

The "bounce" for Obama you reference is well within the sampling error for previous poles suggesting that Americans may still be thinking about the very recent facts so very recently surfacing during the last week. "

Let them think all they wish - please tell me how you can demonstrate it has hurt Obama, or more importantly, Hillary (for 2016, of course) in any way that's demonstrated by the polls.

"This isn't going away anytime soon much to the chagrin of the left."

It's unfortunate that you, the GOP, and the Heritage Foundation are hanging their hats on this rather than actually do some, oh I dunno, legislation of any sort? But hey, if you think it's hurting the POTUS or Hillary in any way, by all means keep it up. You had such a stellar public record in the past with these investigations and all.....

May 19, 2013 at 11:56 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Opinion: Scandals undermine trust in Obama

I more than welcome the investigation, as does any Democrat as well as the President himself. No one, including Obama, has called off an investigation in any way.

But please tell me what that's demonstrated so far? Has that demonstrated any hurt to Obama via the polls in any way? Furthermore, now that we know that it was a Republican Congressman who doctored those emails about Benghazi to ABC News, has that hurt either Obama or Hillary in any way via the polls?

May 19, 2013 at 11:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Opinion: Scandals undermine trust in Obama

I don't trust any politician any further than I can throw 'em, but if it's trust between what Obama is doing versus the GOP, the majority of Americans as well as myself tend to choose the former pretty handily. Especially in lieu of these current scandals that the GOP hilariously brands "worse than Watergate", which wreaks of desperation.

May 19, 2013 at 10:20 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Opinion: Scandals undermine trust in Obama

Actually, George, these "scandals" are undermining the public trust in the GOP much more than in the POTUS. He's actually receiving a poll bounce as a consequence:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/...

and

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gal...

And what's worse, Hillary's popularity numbers are also strong and continue to climb:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/page/20...

This is what happens when a Republican source gives doctored emails to an ABC News reporter regarding the Benghazi affair.

This is what happens when you have a fairly decent president who's suffer little controversy and it's driving the GOP nuts.

This is what happens when you have a bunch of nuts driving your base to the extreme Right and want nothing but to slime the other side rather than do what's best for this country. They have no desire to actually legislate in the House, and it's obvious they have little understanding exactly how to do just that in the first place. And when you have racist groups like the Heritage Foundation telling the GOP to go after scandals rather than legislate:

http://thegrio.com/2013/05/16/heritag...

It's painfully obvious why people simply don't like you and the rest of the GOP.

May 19, 2013 at 9:18 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Turnpike leader Johnston is leaving

Not surprising, but very sad nonetheless.

These are the politicians that our state has voted in. We are reaping what we sow and will continue to do so until they get voted out. And it's not just Brownback, it's the nuts in Congress as well.

But Brownback is a start.

April 26, 2013 at 6:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )