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Lawrence again delays decision on incentives request for Wicked Broadband

RG Fiber has no experience as a ISP. Let them try it in Baldwin first.

October 8, 2014 at 3:37 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Lawrence again delays decision on incentives request for Wicked Broadband

Incorrect. Google Fiber has had lots of problems: http://www.kansascity.com/news/busine...
They also received many subsidies
http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/09/1...
Difference, these agreements weren't discussed with the public before the project was announced.

October 8, 2014 at 3:35 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Lawrence again delays decision on incentives request for Wicked Broadband

That build out was first done in the 1970s if I'm correct. Things have changed. The rollout for the cable modems was the early 90s. However, according to one of the Knology conference calls they didn't have the capital resources to maintain the network without the influx of capital by Avista (who owns WOW). That was the reason for both buyouts.

October 8, 2014 at 3:31 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Lawrence wants more questions answered on $1M loan guarantee for Internet project

Wicked has agreed to allow others to rent space on the lines and WOW or AT&T could use those lines as well. That's what they mean by a "common carrier" approach.

This is much the same way traditional phone service works. SWBell/AT&T own the lines but other phone companies can use it. In other parts of the country the power grid is the same way-you can buy power from other companies but generally one company owns the power lines to your house.

Google and other ISPs don't always have common carrier agreements. That's one reason we don't have much competition for internet or TV. If another cable TV service wanted to operate, they'd have to dig into the ground. Once Wicked gets this support any company could tap into that line and resell service.

September 10, 2014 at 5:44 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Lawrence wants more questions answered on $1M loan guarantee for Internet project

I agree it's a win/win solution. If the loan falls through, the city gets the company. Sounds like some in the city agree with you. I can't remember who said last night this comes down to Josh and his ability to work with the city. However, most small business owners agree with Mr. Montgomery: city hall has a bias towards large business.

I'd love to see municipal broadband in Lawrence !

September 10, 2014 at 3:17 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Lawrence wants more questions answered on $1M loan guarantee for Internet project

I think you hit the key issue: asking.

Google got all it's incentives from KCK in private behind closed doors. Few citizens complained about the financial, administrative and legal issues once the deal was done. That's the way Google does things. The problem is Wicked Broadband (remember it might be Mr. Montgomery asking, but he represents a company with staff and customers) is asking in the open.

You won't be paying for it unless you buy the service. If you don't like it don't buy it, but this is about making sure the opportunity is there. With increased competition, your cost of service with other providers might be lower. It's happened in other communities once there is more consumer choice.

September 10, 2014 at 10:24 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Lawrence wants more questions answered on $1M loan guarantee for Internet project

Speed, quality and reliability.

People have been video conferencing and telecommuting since dial-up days. It's the difference between "good enough" and "excellent." Why do we need HD TV when black and white was good enough to see? Why do we need digital sound when my record player is good enough to hear? Why do we need eBooks when paper is good enough to read?

It's about what's possible, not what we have now. Good enough encourages the status quo.

September 10, 2014 at 7:24 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Lawrence wants more questions answered on $1M loan guarantee for Internet project

Henry Ford: "If I asked people what hey wanted, they would have said faster horses

http://www2.ljworld.com/users/photos/...

September 10, 2014 at 7:15 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Lawrence wants more questions answered on $1M loan guarantee for Internet project

Actually Wicked will be providing much faster Internet service overall. When I reported for GigaOM on Google Fiber at a pilot project coffee shop in KC (http://gigaom.com/2012/07/31/google-f...), the test was 179 down and 44 up with a 39ms ping time. When I did the same test at Z's the speed was 165 down (nearly identical) but 180 up with a 6ms ping time. The upload is very important for sending files. This makes video conferencing easier (you are sending video not just receiving it) and telecommuting (sending files to your employer).

Considering Google is worth about $395 billion dollars, I'm kinda proud of this local Lawrence company providing faster service on their pilot project in comparison.

http://www2.ljworld.com/users/photos/...

September 9, 2014 at 11:09 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Editorial: No guarantees

Sure, they've been reporting on Joshua Montgomery for years and especially when he was a direct competitor to Sunflower. Actions speak louder than words: he's survived and grown his business while Sunflower was sold off. Kudos to Chad for reporting about WOW's continued broken promises of reliable internet. The paper would be kinda boring if they reported every time someone's Sunflower.com email stopped working.

September 3, 2014 at 8:41 a.m. ( | suggest removal )