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Your Turn: Students defend information request

Greg let's see you have accused me of being prejudiced, accusing the SSF of repugnant motives, trying to stifle an investigation & I have a beef with so-called liberal donations. Whew...That's a lot. I didn't know all of that about myself. :)

I think your comments really play into what I am saying. I am just trying to understand the justification for the records request. My original question remains the same and it is still unanswered: "What has Art Hall done, in an official capacity, at the University of Kansas to justify this records request"? I believe the SSF is trying to do a "witch hunt" to drum up "a charge/accusation against Art Hall". There is no foundation for this request, only guilt by association. I sincerely hope some day you & the SSF members are never accused of such.

I also wonder if any members of the SSF or their supporters have ever had any official interaction with Art Hall? Do they really know the man? If so what has Mr. Hall done, in his or her presence that would tell anyone his performance should be questioned?

Greg you speak of “freedom”. Where, in your view, does freedom start & end? In the court of law a person is entitled to specific accusations against them & then allowed to respond to those accusations. In a court of law the accuser has to prove their case without the cooperation of the accused. So, in my humble view, you are asking Art to cooperate with a group who does not have Art’s best interests at heart. I don’t see how he has any responsibility to cooperate with you. Put yourself in Art's place and see how ridiculous this request is from the SSF and why he responded the way he did.

Further, it seems to me the SSF is somehow threatened by the “freedom of ideas”. Why is there so much concern about support for conservative ideas? I thought universities were supposed to be places where competing ideas are freely exchanged; debated & new lines of thought are developed. To me the pursuit of Art’s records at KU is an attempt to stifle academic freedom.

With regard to “liberal” donations, I have no concern. I was commenting regarding the very public antipathy of the liberals against the Koch Brothers, and how the only charge against Art Hall appears to be “guilt by association”. Thus suggesting, if this query into Art Hall’s work life is so “innocent & virtuous” regarding freedom in education, there has to be similar opportunities for requests for information of donations from those in the rest of the political spectrum.

Jim Slade you are stating a “presumption of guilt” regarding charges of doing something illegal or unethical, both are serious charges. I hope you understand that this falls into the area of slander. Unless you have specific proof to warrant your comment I think I would reconsider future comments.

December 17, 2014 at 11:47 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Your Turn: Students defend information request

The above "Your Turn" comments go to great lengths to explain why the SSF made the records request, yet the base reasoning/rationale to justify such a request remains unanswered. If I take anything from the above commentary it is that The Students for a Sustainable Future believe Art Hall is "guilty by association".

My original question remains the same and still unanswered: "What has Art Hall done, while working on campus, at the University of Kansas to justify this records request"?

The reference in the above Your Turn commentary references another university. This reference to another university & persons other than Art Hall is pure innuendo. How is that relevant here? The issue is KU, and what is happening here on campus. This is where the records request was made. The fact that the SSF have gone to such lengths to explain away their records request without anything specific to Art Hall tells me there is nothing specific, & that this request is nothing more than a "witch hunt".

Anyone, in the English-speaking world who has been paying attention, recognizes the antipathy the left has for the Koch Brothers. Since the genesis of this request is based on some relevance to the Koch Brothers it is fair to state that donations to universities come from the full spectrum of politics. Yet SSF finds no reason to question any other professor, or the university itself, for these other contributors & their political association.

What has anyone at The University of Kansas done to justify the actions of the SSF?

December 17, 2014 at 8:53 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

City manager offers apology on Rock Chalk matter; commissioners suggest audit

Melinda thank you for your comment. My reference to 4 is due to the fact the other two voted to use the "Contingency" funds in the project to pay for the repairs identified this spring when the recreation center was flooded due to construction errors.

Contingency funds are used in case there are customer changes to the original specifications &/or design. The contractor, designers, &/or sub-contractors were responsible for the flooding issues, not you, I or any taxpayer.

This project has been so mismanaged it ought to be in a textbook.

December 11, 2014 at 9:24 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Editorial: Show of loyalty

Clint Bowen is a class act!

He has done well, & will continue to do well.

Thank you to the KU athletic department & Coach Beaty in having the foresight to have Clint stay at the University of Kansas.

We continue to wish Clint & his family well.

RCJH

December 11, 2014 at 5:53 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

City commissioners say the city erred in processing Rock Chalk Park payment

This latest episode shows just how DISRESPECTFUL David Corliss & the 4 city commissioners, that voted for the recreation center, have treated the voice & taxes of the citizens of Lawrence regarding the recreation center.

Just like the vote to build the recreation center this latest vote was also hurried/jammed through without adequate review. Apologies not withstanding David Corliss knows better.

Nowhere has David Corliss or the commissioners said they have withheld any funds pending the repair, & approval of the repairs, of the recreation center walkway, exterior concrete walls, drainage, etc. Shouldn't this be addressed prior to this payment?

This whole recreation center matter has been poorly handled. Thru this process TRUST in David Corliss & the 4 city commissioners, regarding their management responsibilities of the city & its finances, is seriously damaged if not gone.

It is time for them all to go.

December 11, 2014 at 5:47 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

City manager offers apology on Rock Chalk matter; commissioners suggest audit

This latest episode shows just how DISRESPECTFUL David Corliss & the 4 city commissioners, that voted for the recreation center, have treated the voice & taxes of the citizens of Lawrence regarding the recreation center.

Just like the vote to build the recreation center this latest vote was also hurried/jammed through without adequate review. Apologies not withstanding David Corliss knows better.

Nowhere has David Corliss or the commissioners said they have withheld any funds pending the repair, & approval of the repairs, of the recreation center walkway, exterior concrete walls, drainage, etc. Shouldn't this be addressed prior to this payment?

This whole recreation center matter has been poorly handled. Thru this process TRUST in David Corliss & the 4 city commissioners, regarding their management responsibilities of the city & its finances, is seriously damaged if not gone.

It is time for them all to go.

December 11, 2014 at 5:43 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Letter: Academic integrity

One final thought & I am finished with this discussion.

Does anyone conceive how ludicrous this situation is?

The folks supporting this politically driven witch hunt under the disguise of "academic transparency, & against a person who is accused of absolutely no wrong doing, is requesting that person provide information to people who want to drum something up against him. REALLY????

I know I am requesting a lot of these self-righteous folks, but I hope they stop & think about what the same situation would mean & do to them during their careers. The politics of "Personal Destruction" is an awful thing. Just imagine what happens in your current relations & life when friends/others turn on you and attack you by negative innuendo.

As far as The University of Kansas is concerned, I hope the administration realizes the damage they are doing to the moral & confidence of the professors & staff by the administration not sticking up for them and "having their back" when these type of situations arise. I wonder how this situation would be different if Mr. Hall was a liberal supported by a liberal billionaire?

This public display of raw politics is embarrassing to the University of Kansas & the Alumni. It is time for the Chancellor to put an end to this ludicrous situation.

December 7, 2014 at 6 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Letter: Academic integrity

Ron you have directly questioned Mr. Hall's "integrity & ethics", yet presented no evidence to support such allegations. This is possibly slanderous. The FAA comparison is not an analogous situation. Please let's stick to any possible tangible justification for the assault on Mr. Hall.

All I have asked for in these discussion groups is "What, specifically, has Mr. Hall done to warrant such obtrusive acts & accusations against him?

December 7, 2014 at 3:03 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Letter: Academic integrity

Ron, just what is Mr. Hall guilty of? Your letter & the actions of the Students for a Sustainable Future clearly think there is a case of some violation Mr. Hall has committed. In all cases the accused has the right to hear the charges against him/her & thus based on the merits of those charges defend his or her self.

I have asked this question multiple times in previous discussion groups and the question always goes unanswered. I, like you, graduated from KU's school of Aerospace Engineering. One thing we are taught is to objectively review your data before coming to a conclusion. I have seen no data to warrant such an obtrusive inquiry into Mr. Hall's records. Possibly you can enlighten us. Please do not scapegoat the data by professing guilt by association with the Koch brothers. That doesn't prove anything nor justify the actions taken against Mr. Hall based on his current position.

Until such objective data/information is presented this inquiry continues to appear to be nothing more than a politically driven witch hunt.

Further, I am mystified by your position statements here, given your past defense of other professors who were possibly mistreated.

December 7, 2014 at 10:26 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Students receive part of $1,800 records request seeking Kochs' influence on hiring at KU

The point is there is no merit in these actions by the SSF.

December 5, 2014 at 9:28 a.m. ( | suggest removal )