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A more civil discussion? You mean like Prof Guth's comments? Are they kidding themselves?

Good-bye LJWorld.

October 9, 2013 at 10:13 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Letter: Hate speech

voevoda...

I do not want a situation at KU where a faculty member can be summarily fired on flimsey evidence, or based soley upon a disagreement. I think he is free to express his political beliefs, and KU should be extremely careful not to chill speech in an academic setting (see my comment below). Guth and every other KU professor's job should be safe even if they all publically state they hate the NRA and its members. However, Guth's comments speaks for itself--he wished for the death of a whole group of individuals because he disagrees with their views.

Would you support a KU professor who wished for the death of all gays or muslims (or their children)?

October 8, 2013 at 3:31 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Letter: Hate speech

IreneAdler84...

You are correct the the WBC's comments are not considered hate speech by the SCOTUS. I chose WBC's statements for that purpose--what is legally permissible may still be considered hate speech generally and could be grounds for dismissal in most employment settings (1st Amendment Law vs. Fed/State Employment Law).

The difference Phelps and Guth is that Guth probably has students who are sons or daughters of NRA members, which arguably creates a hostile working enviroment or harm to the reputation of the University.

But regardless of where state employment law falls on this area, I would hope most people, including tomatogrower, wouldn't tolerate a KU professor making similar hateful speech against gays or muslims because of the harm it would have on the image of the University, and in that scenario, I am confident KU would find sufficient grounds for dismissal.

October 8, 2013 at 1:04 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Letter: Hate speech

gr...

If Guth just said something like "all NRA members are crazy", or "the NRA and conservatives don't care about people"--it would have been fine to express his political opinion. We should be careful to avoid chilling speech in an academic setting.

However, Guth's comment about the death of children of NRA members crossed a line into hate speech and should not be tolerated.

October 8, 2013 at 11:33 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Letter: Hate speech

tomatogrower...

What do you consider hate speech?

How about after a terrorist attack a KU professor puts on twitter; "the blood is on the hands of the (muslims). Next time, let it be YOUR sons and daughters. Shame on you. May God damn you."

Or what about if he picketed with the Westboro Baptist Church and held a sign saying "God Hates Gays."

October 8, 2013 at 11:31 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

More than 100 active, retired faculty, staff support Guth's "right of free speech"

What I learned today: hate speech is considered okay if it is directed at a conservative group.

If Guth just said something like "all NRA members are crazy", or "the NRA and conservatives don't care about people"--it would have been fine to express his political opinion. We should be careful to avoid chilling speech in an academic setting.

However, Guth's comment about the death of children of NRA members crossed a line into hate speech and should not be tolerated.

October 3, 2013 at 1 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Anthropology Department opposes leave for Guth

I have no doubt the Anthropology Department would have done the same if a KU professor made comments similar to the Westboro Baptist Church, like "Thank God for Dead Soldiers, and God Hates Gays." (Eyes rolling)

Hate speech is hate speech whether it is directed at a historically discriminated group or not.

September 28, 2013 at 6:30 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Letter: Intimidation tactics

Catalano...
"Sad to see KU playing politics with the First Amendment."

Agreed. Hate speech directed at the Right of the Left shouldn't be tolerated.

Sen Smith, like President Obama, has no obligation to vote as his constituents ask. If they don't like how he votes, they can choose to not retain him.

September 24, 2013 at 4:27 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Letter: Intimidation tactics

Whether you agree with the hateful comments by Prof Guth or not, this whole situation is making KU look bad.

Sen Greg Smith is fully within his rights to vote according to his conscience, and not fund a University which condones professors engaging publicly in hate speech. The educational future of our children will be weakened by allowing someone who engages in such hateful speech to continue teaching them.

My guess is that the LTE would feel differently if a comment similar to Prof Guth's was made about Muslims after a terrorist attack. Hate speech in any form shouldn't be tolerated at KU.

September 24, 2013 at 3:07 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Professor getting death threats over NRA tweet, colleagues support his free-speech rights

yourworstnightmare...

It is a simple yes or no question. Do you support hate speech made by KU professors?

September 24, 2013 at 2:44 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

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