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Sound Off: Armed guards in school

Does the Lawrence school district employ security guards, and have they considered placing armed guards in schools since the National Rifle Association recommended doing so?

Both the Lawrence school district and the Lawrence Police Department provide security officers at the two high schools in the district. School district spokeswoman Julie Boyle says the district employs six security guards (three at each high school) who are not armed. The district is currently on its winter break and has not yet had an opportunity for formal discussions since the NRA issued its recommendations. The Police Department provides two School Resource Officers (SROs) at each high school. Capt. Paul Fellers of the department’s Community Services Division says those officers are funded through the regular Police Department Budget as well as the city’s portion of the Special Alcohol Fund. He says when additional law enforcement officers are needed for various events that fall outside the regular school day, the school district hires additional sworn officers as needed. The SROs work with the other Lawrence schools as well. All law enforcement officers are armed during the performance of their assigned duties.

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Jonathan Fox 1 year, 3 months ago

So far after reading all these comments I see two sides so far. One, arm teachers or have police officers with guns in schools. The other side as far as I can tell is either saying get rid of all guns (which is realistically impossible to achieve) or having a emotional reaction to something someone has said or simply attempting to refute something someone has said.

So far, one side of this argument has presented possible solutions. The other has not.

I welcome anyone who is anti-gun (and has some time on their hands) to read what this link has to say.

http://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/2012/12/20/an-opinion-on-gun-control/

I welcome any counter-arguments to be relayed from what this man has to say who is far more knowledgeable than me (and so far knows a lot more than everyone else here as well).

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Jim Phillips 1 year, 3 months ago

After reading most of these comments, I have one rhetorical question to ask those of you who fear guns. If something like Sandy Hook happens in one of the Lawrence schools where your child goes, will you sue the school district for not providing adequate protection to your child?

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beatrice 1 year, 3 months ago

I am paraphrasing a letter to the editor I read today in AZ:

The NRA promotes guns because guns help people protectect themselves, in part, from their government. Now that people are armed and a potential danger they say the solution is to arm our government, by arming teachers in our public schools. Well isn't that a convenient circle of gun ownership.

Need further proof that the NRA is there to protect the rights of gun manufacturers?

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James Minor 1 year, 3 months ago

I can see it now in the Journal World. "Teen prankster approaches security guard with a prank gun made out of a soap". Security guard screams, pushes kids out of the way and runs out of the school. The students recall him screaming save yourself, noticed he messed on himself, and everyone knew his NRA tattoo was fake!!!

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bigtoe 1 year, 3 months ago

Web page for the Los Angles School Police Department - every one of them is armed - end of discussion.

http://www.laspd.com/

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thuja 1 year, 3 months ago

Can we please evolve now?

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mikekt 1 year, 3 months ago

Why is it that people don't get the idea, that what goes around comes around, not only on the individual level,..... but also on the national level, of nation to nation behaviors ?

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mikekt 1 year, 3 months ago

The NRA is the NRA. They advocate for the easiest sale of fire arms and are an industry hack lobbying group, under the guise of being .....whatever . The more frightening this country is, with random gun violence, the further the publics heightened fears of random gun violence, will push their cause of gun manufacturing & sales in this country . Guess they are doing their jobs well !

Hummmmmm?.

Welcome to Beirut, Kabul & Bagdad ........in America !

We have armed most the world .....& its' nuts,.......with guns & weapons of violence. No doubt, .....profitably $$$$$$$ ! Now, what goes around.....comes around,....... even if you're not paying attention, to the obvious ! Now the killing is not on the news from some other country...... but from our very own country & cities !

This ain't a Fred Phelps & some punishing God . This is just the obvious !

If something comes around,.....didn't we choose it,.....by gifting the rest of the world with it ?

After all, any nut with any reasons (?) to kill someone, should have easy world wide access to a gun ! Right ?

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Gandalf 1 year, 3 months ago

Armed guards in schools will be necesssary at some point. How many people remember when aspirin bottles and other types of merchandise were not sealed like today? Some nut put poison in some of the bottles and it changed the whole industry.

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Gotland 1 year, 3 months ago

Is there an armed gaurd at the school the children of politicians attend?

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friendlyjhawk 1 year, 3 months ago

No teachers should be armed. Why burden a teacher with the need to be even more vigilant then we ask them to be in schools daily? The NRA suggestion so stupid that it shamed any good advice they might give. Do you think arming the coach, english teacher, art teacher or (insert any classroom teacher) with a weapon would not create a hostile work environment for teachers and students? Locked doors with bullet proof glass and serveillence cameras is more practical. So what if it takes a little longer to get into the buildings? If there there is fire kids and staff can easily open a door to leave.

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Uncle_Jerry 1 year, 3 months ago

No guns in schools! This is the battle cry of politicians that send their kids to schools with armed security.

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SouthWestKs 1 year, 3 months ago

tomatogrower, What if you look @ that map & see that your house is the only house on the block that doesn't have a gun. Are you going to feel good knowing that the bad guys are coming to your house when they get to your block because they will know you have no guns. You know nobody will be shooting back @ them.

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Tracy Rogers 1 year, 3 months ago

One thing I think a lot of people are forgetting. After Columbine, many schools did start hiring resource officers/security guards for their schools. When the budget cuts started hitting about 6 years ago, those were usually the first things cut by many districts. Something to keep in mind the next time you hear about schools costing so much of our state budget.

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donttreadonme 1 year, 3 months ago

Hey, who's paying for them? Just one guard (at $50K for salary and fringes) per school (100,000) would cost $5 billion.

And one guard can't defend the 3 or 4 or 6 exits at most schools.

Thanks, NRA, for another "small govt." solution.

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Deb Engstrom 1 year, 3 months ago

Because the NRA recommended it , is exactly why it should not be done. No guns in schools, please. It is still the safest place for kids to be in spite of the recent tragedy. Certainly more kids die in shootings on the streets and in their homes than in schools.

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Cant_have_it_both_ways 1 year, 3 months ago

NEWSFLASH: Hardware store sold out of barn locks after the horse got out!

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lamenterms007 1 year, 3 months ago

ok well then THIS as well..Let me see if I get this straight.

20 dead children and 6 dead adults = no need for any armed personnel at school. right?

A couple of ambiguous emails at a news station that publishes personal information on who's a gun owner and who is not while busting numerous privacy issues and putting peoples individual safety aside = emergency requiring multiple armed guards placed at said business?

Takeaway = are journalists/elitist/ any one deemed important obviously more important than kindergartners and teachers? regardless, however , these hypocrites still seem to think that having a gun at the business is in fact now needed for their safety from non gun owners and gun owners alike who were pissed at having their information shared with every potential criminal out there. what example is out there as of now to suggest that having an armed guard at an establishment some how incurs more crime by default? i don't think i've even heard of one.

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SouthWestKs 1 year, 3 months ago

Most malls have "rent-a-cops" with no guns. The theater that the shooter picked was the 1 out of more than 10+ that had a "NO GUNS" sign. At Columbine the security shot @ the pair & then backed up to wait on the SWAT team to get there. People may have died during that time period. The cops are now trained to rush to the sound of the gunfire. They learned this from Columbine. At Sandy Hook, why did the cops that responded have to break in?? They should have had the code or keys for the school. To fix the problem leave the SRO's where they are now. Then get ride of the "NO GUNS" signs & allow the teachers that want to CCW do so. You have now removed the target sign from the schools.

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Tracy Rogers 1 year, 3 months ago

Columbine had armed security guards.

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SnakeFist 1 year, 3 months ago

Keep in mind that of the last few attacks, one was in a mall which I assume had security, and one was in a theater which I assume did not. Unless you put armed guards on every corner of every street (which, as Ron Paul said, is not a place I would want to live), you'll have openings for disgruntled people with guns to quickly and easily kill lots of people.

If you put guards in the schools, your children will be attacked on the bus. If you put guards on the bus, your children will be attacked on the playground. If you put guards on the playground, you're children will be attacked at the zoo, etc etc etc. The solution of "more guns to fight guns" has failed and will continue to fail.

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irvan moore 1 year, 3 months ago

are school resource officers armed?

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Lynn731 1 year, 3 months ago

I think all schools should have school resource officers (sworn peace officers) in light of the recent murders of children at a school in another state. I do not mean poorly trained rent a cops (security officers).

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Angela Heili 1 year, 3 months ago

What about security at the elementary schools? Why aren't security officers there on a full time basis?

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Smarmy_Schoolmarm 1 year, 3 months ago

Why would the district have any discussions at all based on NRA recommendations?

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