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Sound Off: Roundabout lights

The lights in the roundabout at 28th and O’Connell Road have been out for several months after one in the roundabout was hit by a car. That light fell and damaged another light. The two remaining lights then ceased to work, leaving the area in total darkness. After a concern was raised about students having to cross there to get to the school bus stop in the darkness, one light was able to be turned on. When will the remaining lights be fixed so the roundabout is fully illuminated?

The city recently received the new poles for installation. City staff expect the project to be complete in approximately 30 days.

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Benjamin Roberts 4 years, 1 month ago

Thank you for shedding light on this, in a roundabout way.

workinghard 4 years, 1 month ago

Maybe they should order extras if it takes that long to get them.

parrothead8 4 years, 1 month ago

Why do you say that? I've always found that traffic moves much better at a roundabout than at a 4-way stop.

Brian Laird 4 years, 1 month ago

No, people who cannot figure out roundabouts are even dumber - and shouldn't be allowed to drive.

Scott Batson 4 years, 1 month ago

The FHWA has a video about modern roundabouts that is mostly accurate ( ). Modern roundabouts are the safest form of intersection in the world. Visit for FAQs and safety facts. The safety comes from the ‘slow and go’ operation instead of the ‘stop or go fast’ way a stop light works. The smaller size of the modern roundabout is what makes them safer and keeps speeds in the 20 mph range. This makes it much easier to avoid a crash or stop for pedestrians. It also means that if a crash happens the likelihood of injury is very low. Safety is the #1 reason there are over 2,400 modern roundabouts in the US today and many more on the way.

workinghard 4 years, 1 month ago

Maybe if they would use regular light poles instead of fancy decorative poles it wouldn't take so long to get replacements and probably way cheaper.

kernal 4 years, 1 month ago

Wonder how that 18-wheeler Knight Transport truck that parks overnight on E. 25th Terrace manages that roundabout.

FlintlockRifle 4 years, 1 month ago

18 Wheelers just drive over the center walkway, just the same as the ones on north Kasold, which is getting more and more truck traffic each day headed to the plants south of KPL plant, right now Kasold is pretty smooth after new facelift. Truck go south from Kasold and Farmers Turnpike all the way to 6th , won't be smooth long.

Scott Batson 4 years, 1 month ago

There is no center walkway. Modern roundabouts are designed for trucks by including the center flat area around the circle. It’s not a sidewalk, it’s called a truck apron, and it’s for trucks to begin a sharp right or end a left or U-turn on. Visit Or for examples.

buffalo63 4 years, 1 month ago

I thought trucks were not to be on Kasold from Farmers Turnpike, but rather go to K-10 entrance and KTA, but then not all read and follow signs.

Scott Batson 4 years, 1 month ago

If you’re looking at the other side of a modern roundabout when you’re entering, you’re driving unsafely. Drivers entering a modern roundabout should first look for pedestrians, then watch for other motorists coming from the left and then watch for pedestrians when exiting. The motorist on the other side of the circle won’t get to you for 5 or ten seconds.

bearded_gnome 4 years, 1 month ago

roundies help pedestrians?

tgot any more faery tales?

people do not stop at roundies, thus there's no turn for safe pedestrian crossings!!!!!!

plus sometimes the roundies themselves obstruct some of the visibility especially with the vegetation growing. drivers only look left, they're notlooking for pedestrians!

get a clue!

Scott Batson 4 years, 1 month ago

All modern roundabouts have median islands separating incoming and outgoing auto traffic. Pedestrians don't have to find a gap in two directions of traffic, just one. This is safer for pedestrians, especially for younger or older ones, because they only concentrate on one direction of traffic at a time. This is what is meant by two-phase. Cross the first half, pause if you need to, then cross the second half. On multi-lane crossings pedestrian beacons or signals are often added if the auto (or pedestrian) traffic is too numerous. The signals are also two phase, usually requiring the pedestrian to push a second button when they get to the median. The median can also have a Z path to reorient the pedestrian to view oncoming traffic. Also, the signals usually rest in off, so they are only activated if a pedestrian needs the help crossing. This way only motorists that need to stop are delayed.

riverdrifter 4 years, 1 month ago

Roundabouts are great, much better than 4-way stops. The mother of all roundabouts in Kansas is at Florence at the intersection of US 50 and US 77. That sucker is a hundred yards across. Since it was built 8-10 years ago the number of accidents there has fallen through the floor from when they had the old 4-way stop -and they had routine Talladega-league smashups there.

Sue McDaniel 4 years, 1 month ago

I detest them and they are just frustrating. What about the word "STOP" do people not understand. A huge waste of taxpayer money, oh wait, that is most of what they do with my hard earned dollars.

Scott Batson 4 years, 1 month ago

There are no STOP signs at modern roundabouts. The first cost of any two choices is a poor way to compare. Life-cycle cost is the best (present value of future costs, a.k.a. net present value). When comparing modern roundabouts to signals for a 20-year life cycle (the standard period), modern roundabouts usually cost us much less. Costs to compare include: first cost (design/land/construction), operation and maintenance (electricity, re-striping, etc.), crash reduction, daily delay (what’s your time worth?), daily fuel consumption, pollution (generated), area insurance rates (this costs more where it is less safe to drive). Each of these things, and others, can be estimated for any two choices and everyone near or using the project area will pay some portion of all of these costs.
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