Sound Off
Sound Off: I'm a neighbor near Southwest Middle School, and several nights a week and on Saturdays, we have football players’ parents parking on our street, on Inverness, blocking our view so we can’t see when we need to cross the street safely. Whom do we talk to? It’s a risk for us in the neighborhood and also others who are trying to drive in that neighborhood.
Megan Gilliland, the city’s communications manager, provided this information: Parking is permitted on Inverness because the road width is sufficient to allow cars on each side. The Standard Traffic Ordinance considers it unlawful to park within 20 feet of a crosswalk or 30 feet of a stop sign. If drivers are parked illegally, the motorist could be ticketed. However, if the motorists are not parked illegally, the issue could be handled by contacting the Traffic Safety Commission — at traffic@lawrenceks.org — for review to see if no parking areas are warranted.
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Comments
oneeye_wilbur 8 months, 2 weeks ago
you like that answer from the city? fat chance getting anything done. what's wrong, don't you know you are just supposed to walk into the street and assume you have the right of way, welcome to Lawrence. Now your neighborhood is getting a taste of crowded streets and pedestrians who don't care, likewise the residents who are faced with CARS in their neighborhood...how could that happen? How, because you have a school board unable to plan facilities!
Damian666 8 months, 2 weeks ago
In Louisiana people leave messages on the windows written in chicken blood.
faceit 8 months, 2 weeks ago
I tried putting blood in a spray bottle once, but it kept coagulating in the nozzle.
Liberty275 8 months, 2 weeks ago
Mix some vinegar in with it and it won't coagulate.
5thgeneration 8 months, 2 weeks ago
We have officially reached a new level of petty complaining. At least they aren't blocking your driveway. Exercise caution, and cross the street.
Try this one on for size: I live in the Pinckney neighborhood. During K.U. football home games, we experience an influx of traffic that takes up all of the parking on my street, plus, several other streets have their traffic limited to one way travel. We're forced to deal with reduced safety, increased traffic, and an influx of non-locals who root for the wrong team. Who do I contact to have the university's football program shut down, and can the Traffic Safety Commission effectively ban non-local on street parking in my neighborhood during home games?
oneeye_wilbur 8 months, 2 weeks ago
hey, here is an idea for that person(s) in that neighborhood. Put your car in your garage ( of course it won't fit 'cause the garage is full of junk) but if it fits, sell parking spaces in your driveway. If no one wants to pay, call the police and they will write them a ticket if the cars are illegally parked.
You can make money from those sports fanatics.
msezdsit 8 months, 2 weeks ago
Parking at a local school sports activity makes them a fanatic? Maybe you could use that other eye and see things a little more realistically! I only point this out because the fact that you see them as a fanatic might bias your opinions.
oneeye_wilbur 8 months, 2 weeks ago
Better yet, get all of your neighbors to put their cars and trucks on the street and take up all of the available parking? Now that's a good one and it will work!
msezdsit 8 months, 2 weeks ago
Talk about a fanatic.
Liberty275 8 months, 2 weeks ago
That's thinking outside the box right there.
fearsadness14 8 months, 2 weeks ago
i live out there as well, and it's dangerous to be driving in those situations, let alone walking. It happens with the little league football gorilla team twice weekly when they have practices. It really is quite a dangerous nuisance.
5thgeneration 8 months, 2 weeks ago
If you're driving, maintain a speed suitable for such a dangerous "nuisance" or condition..... Don't drive so fast that you're not able to stop if someone appears in front of you.
If you're walking, don't step out into the street to check for traffic. Peer out from safety, and if it's all clear, cross. Sometimes, one might cross the street quickly, adhering to the same rule of the road that says "maintain a speed suitable for current conditions."
The ability to handle one's self in a potentially unsafe situation seems to be declining.
Study, identify, and adapt.
Now that I've been snarky, I'll also say that if traffic isn't obeying the rules of the road, by all means call law enforcement.
oneeye_wilbur 8 months, 2 weeks ago
A few hit now and then is just population control. Leave those earphones in and always wear flip flops.
none2 8 months, 2 weeks ago
I guess I cannot visualize what the problem is. How do cars legally parked in the street block pedestrians' ability to see traffic? Are they all parking full sized vans, trucks, and SUV's?
It also seems strange that people living near public schools or public parks would not expect there to be times that there is traffic overflow. That is the nature of building near places where the public congregates.
As 5thGeneration pointed out, they have a similar problem when KU has football games. However, would it be better for the city to put up with traffic during sporting events and make a lot of money for those who shop and spend in Lawrence, or just have Lawrence tell KU to move all their games elsewhere? While I'm sure there are some grumpy people that don't like KU games in town period, realize that the money generated from those games by far benefits the city.
oneeye_wilbur 8 months, 2 weeks ago
Sounds like the person complaining is going to the games,. If not, then fill the street with their cars and charge to park in driveways. Then the only cars parked are their own Hahaha. Lawrence has slow burning low watt bulbs
Did_I_say_that 8 months, 2 weeks ago
How many of Southwest Middle School's neighbors moved there after the school was built?
The school was there before the houses on Inverness, you say? And people chose to move to a neighborhood that had an Elementary and Middle School within walking distance? And now they are complaining about it?
Here is an aerial photograph from 1995, the year the school opened.
SouthWest Middle School 1995 by DIST
It is amazing that people move into an area and than complain about the status quo.
oneeye_wilbur 8 months, 2 weeks ago
Face it. Lawrence does not have the brightest bulbs,
msezdsit 8 months, 2 weeks ago
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msezdsit 8 months, 2 weeks ago
Aah, removing my post was pretty lame.
classclown 8 months, 2 weeks ago
Start keying all the cars. They'll eventually take the hint and start parking elsewhere. Perhaps even start using the T to attend!
ps. This works well in parking lots for those that like to take up more than one space so as not to get a scratch on their car.
LarryNative 8 months, 2 weeks ago
I love scumbags that key cars. Especially the scum that keys new or nice cars because they can't afford one. Great idea.
msezdsit 8 months, 2 weeks ago
Fortunately, most people can behave with a little more civility than resorting to vandalism. If not, hopefully your car is the one getting vandalized.
itsalwayssunnyinlarry 8 months, 2 weeks ago
You win the award for trashiest response! Sucks your car is crappy and you're bitter.
jhawkinsf 8 months, 2 weeks ago
The biggest problem is that no one is paying attention when they are driving. It doesn't matter what street you're trying to cross. Everyone is on their cell phone, texting, reading, looking up a number. We need to consider banning electronic devices when driving. If you need to make a call, pull over to the side of the road and chat to your heart's delight.
msezdsit 8 months, 2 weeks ago
bingo
Topple 8 months, 2 weeks ago
I always shake my head when I see some idiot student pedestrian crossing the street with their nose buried in their cell phone, with no regard for 2-ton vehicles flying by at 40mph.
I may have the right of way as a pedestrian, but right of way isn't going to stop that driver with THEIR nose buried in their cell phone from showing you who wins in Pedestrian vs. Car.
Frankie8 8 months, 2 weeks ago
When you judge someone by the group they belong to that is called prejudice.
jhawkinsf 8 months, 2 weeks ago
What's it called when one group behaves differently than other groups and then you comment on that difference?
msezdsit 8 months, 2 weeks ago
You might put up a sign in your yard asking people to not park for the reasons you have cited. It may not work but then again politeness may be rewarded in kind. If that doesn't help your stuck. This happens all over the world not just on the street you happen to live on.
It would seem you could walk up to the street behind the car and then look before crossing. Why can't you do this?
psycho_theclown 8 months, 2 weeks ago
Dear Abby, My neighbor sleeps with the window open and snores...and the leaves from his tree blow on my property (can I put up a 25' fence?}...and I can smell his bbq grill and I'm a vegetarian...and sometimes when he parks his car in his driveway the sun reflects on my house and I have to spend more on air conditioning can I sue him for the cost? BTW, lentils I bought at Hy-Vee gave me gas and I was shunned, are they liable, there was no warning sign when I bought them.
jhawkinsf 8 months, 2 weeks ago
Psycho, psycho, you have no complaint,
You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't
So listen up buster and listen up good,
Stop wishing for good luck and knocking on wood.
Siiiiigned, Dear Abby
"Dear Abby", lyrics by John Prine.
Frankie8 8 months, 2 weeks ago
Dear Abby, this is priceless!!! LOL
RoeDapple 8 months, 2 weeks ago
First World Problems . . .
by RoeDapple
Frankie8 8 months, 2 weeks ago
The solution is obvious. Buy a new fridge and then a generator to make sure it runs if the electric goes out. Maybe in this photo she is pondering deeply about this problem.
Lawrenceks 8 months, 2 weeks ago
Classclown, Lucly there are camer's in most parking lots now because of the likes like you. IF you did that to my car and I caught you you'd never do it again!!
jehovah_bob 8 months, 2 weeks ago
Have you ever seen the quality of a parking lot video?
Do you need a CCL for your fists of fury?
hip_gma 8 months, 2 weeks ago
They also park on 27th Street by fire hydrants. There is a HUGE EMPTY school parking lot for that school so I don't know why these vehicles do not park there instead of along the street. Actually I do know...they don't want to walk. Nothing will be done until a child runs out between the vehicles and gets hurt and then everyone will be pointing fingers at each other.
Andini 8 months, 2 weeks ago
It's really hard to text, drive, drink coffee and park while driving my Denali to pick my son up now. Less parking is not an option.
Enlightenment 8 months, 2 weeks ago
The cars parked along Inverness is less of a problem than the increased traffic from the concentration of apartments in the area that are filled with inexperienced college aged drivers makes walking and driving in a congested situation a real hazard.
Frankie8 8 months, 2 weeks ago
Whiskey tango foxtrot!!! Am I the only one getting sick and tired of these insulting remarks directed at University students? Believe it or not, there are students at KU who do not get drunk, who know quite well how to drive, and are there to get a good education and better their lives. Also you don't have to choose between being a dumb jock, a nerd, or a techie, or a brilliant student. Athlete's can be quite smart.
bevy 8 months, 2 weeks ago
Can Athletes also learn the difference between a plural and a possessive, and apply apostrophes correctly?
Enlightenment 8 months, 2 weeks ago
I said "college age" drivers, but if the shoe fits.
Hooligan_016 8 months, 2 weeks ago
I know exactly the stretch of road the SO question is addressing (particularly 27th). If the line of vehicles weren't enormous SUVs, then there wouldn't be as much of a concern. With the size of the vehicles parked there, 2 way traffic is barely attainable. I take it slow when I'm around there, but a child could very easily be hidden behind the parked vehicles ...
gert891 8 months, 2 weeks ago
there is a clearly marked cross walk on that street, that no cars park near , so try crossing the street there.
SoundMind 8 months, 2 weeks ago
Here's a radical idea - if you don't like the traffic a grade or middle school attracts . . . don't live near one. Seriously, find something important to fret about.
OonlyBonly 8 months, 2 weeks ago
Gotta add this. One of the major problems concerning illegally parked autos is the policy of Officer Discretion - he may or may not, at his option, cite an illegally parked vehicle. Take a drive through the Oread area on any weekday and see how many vehicles are parked in violation of both the Crosswalk, Stop sign and the Fire Hydrant regulation.
Hooligan_016 8 months, 2 weeks ago
Don't forget about parking across sidewalks as well. I got a ticket for my front bumper barely hanging over the sidewalk (that split our driveway) while I see other vehicles blatantly parked over the sidewalk for days without any ticket at all.
DillonBarnes 8 months, 2 weeks ago
I'm not sure I understand the issue, maybe someone who lives over there can educate me. There are crosswalks at 24th, 27th and across from the school, the one on 27th looks a little dangerous, but with no parking on 27th (shouldn't be), it wouldn't be too bad. The road narrows before the roundabout, along with traffic that should be slowing to go through, it should be quite a safe crossing.
I understand concerns about safety, but I don't understand the specifics of the problem.
Hooligan_016 8 months, 2 weeks ago
Understandable, I'm not sure why the original SO question specifically called out Inverness ... but I'll try to clarify (from what I've seen at least). The stretch of road that I see having issues is 27th.
Starting at the intersection of Inverness and 27th and heading west you see the drive to the school parking lot and a crosswalk adjacent to it. It is after this crosswalk that cars begin parking on the North side of 27th all the way to Bluestem Dr and up to Scottsdale St.
While there is a crosswalk nearby to get across, I think there are other issues than just being able to cross the street. I certainly would not want to be biking down that road with a wall of cars.
Moreover, with the line of vehicles there (a majority being SUVs and Trucks) the width of the street is very restricted.
DillonBarnes 8 months, 2 weeks ago
If that is the case, I can understand the concern much more. If the street isn't designed to handle parking, then it can become much more dangerous. If parking is the issue, maybe the school should consider finding a way to expand their parking options. I see a big open field to the north of 27th.
consumer1 8 months, 2 weeks ago
Or you or someone could make and put up orange and white barrier that says no parking. I bet that would work.
consumer1 8 months, 2 weeks ago
You could block the parking space or the who street. Leave enough room for a local car to pass. Oh! and make if official looking. If you like I could build you a couple for about $100.00 bucks.
Isabelle 8 months, 2 weeks ago
This is hilarious....
workinghard 8 months, 2 weeks ago
But,but....I live in West Lawrence, there's not suppose to be cars parked on the street. Grow up, this is a common problem in most of the rest of Lawrence, deal with it like the rest of us.
Liberty275 8 months, 2 weeks ago
Really? You don't know how to cross the street when cars are parked on it? Really?
Is this what we are becoming as a nation? Do we really need to ask the city for help crossing the street? This is pathetic.
ljreader 8 months, 2 weeks ago
This clearly calls for a new stimulus plan that will employ street crossing czars in every city.
booyalab 8 months, 2 weeks ago
So the person asking the original question is complaining that when a lot of cars are parked on a street, the sight lines are obscured? Have they never been a pedestrian in a moderately high traffic area before? Do they get chauffeured everywhere? I just find it amazing that someone hasn't encountered this problem in their life before. It must be nice.
none2 8 months, 2 weeks ago
Maybe they originally came from a neighborhood where cars parked halfway on the sidewalk, so they would prefer that these cars do the same.
NotMeAgain 8 months, 2 weeks ago
Don't worry my dear!! Traffic will be back to normal at the end of October.Tuff it out!!!!!
jellybeanies 8 months, 2 weeks ago
I wish my life was so peachy keen that the worst thing I had to complain about was families parking near a school for children's activities.
oneeye_wilbur 8 months, 2 weeks ago
Again, just park your own cars on the street and take up all of the available parking space. The fanatics who want to go to the games can pay to park in your driveways. It is so simple. It really is. One would think that with so many simple minded people in Lawrence those in the Southwest school area havn't figured it out.
Heck, I'll drive my car over,park on your street. You pay me $10.00 to leave it there. You charge $20.00 for people to park in your driveway. Now lets see how smart these folks are in math, or for that matter most everyone else.
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