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Sound Off: Leash law in Lawrence

Does Lawrence have a leash law for dogs?

Yes. Dogs must be on leashes shorter than 6 feet and under control when outside of their fences, with the exception of dogs wearing electronic collars, according to the city’s pet ordinance on the city’s website. Owners must also clean up their animal’s waste.

Comments

irvan moore 2 years, 8 months ago

i knew there was a leash law but didn't know it was a 6 foot leash, i (and about everybody else i see walkig a dog) use the kind of leash that reels in and out

Frederic Gutknecht IV 2 years, 8 months ago

I think the basic idea is to rein in your critter when other animals, such as corporations (I mean, people), are around.

Obviously, if electronic collars are allowed, there is a certain leeway in the critter roaming allowance.

I assume the city is trying to reduce/control the interaction between your critter and other critters in the city and, while I am happy to make an ass out of "U" and "ME", I still think this is what our goal should be. Also, you should clean up your animal's natural "expressions".

Patriot2 2 years, 8 months ago

Owners must also clean up their animals waste....? Wow........ Not going to happen.......ever walk the grounds around an Aberdeen apartment building? Parents of young children beware! Don't let your children walk or play on the grass unless you don't mind having them playing in and smelling like dogie poo!

Patriot2 2 years, 8 months ago

When I mentioned this issue to a recent "dog walker" they stated, "We just take them off the property and then management doesn't care!" Nice, so now it's the problem for the homeowners around the apartment buildings.

friendlyjhawk 2 years, 8 months ago

The folks in my apartment complex walk dogs with the lease out much farther then 6 feet and don't hesitate to let them charge up to you. Nothing like a yappy little dog challenging you on the sidewalk. People are just rude most of them and don't think twice about it.

kernal 2 years, 8 months ago

If the HWP sees you toss a cigarette out of the car during a high fire danger alert, yes you will get a ticket. As for the high fire danger alerts, if you do throw a butt out the window, someone sees you do it and a fire ensues, you might not get a ticket, but you will be charged with a higher penalty.

I would like to know why LPD doesn't ticket drivers inside the city limits when they toss butts out their car windows during high fire alerts. Those alerts are just as applicable in town as outside the city limits.

MattressMan 2 years, 8 months ago

"At some point it takes personal responsibility because police can't and don't enforce every law"

Hit the nail on the head there KRich

Ginny Hedges 2 years, 8 months ago

What disgusts me is my neighbors let their cats out to roam free and use my mulch as their private kitty litter. After cleaning up after their unsanitary messes too many times, I got rid of the mulch even though I didn't want to do that. I got tired of taking care of their cats. Guess they don't want to clean their own kitty litter in the house. They should have known when they got the cats that they would have to do that. So far, none of them have been run over and killed when they roam around. I called the Animal Control and they set a trap out for a few hours and that was that. You never know when they will be out, so they are hard to catch. Why don't pet owners take care of their pets??

workinghard 2 years, 8 months ago

Yeah, bought my own live trap at Tractor Supply for $25 so I could have one on hand. When I complained to a student that his cat leaves dead animals in my yard a lot he still refused to keep him in because "he would be unhappy". More like "I don't want to clean a litter box." Trapped the cat and sent him to the pound. Try to get a picture and they might be able to give them a ticket.

satcheljerk 2 years, 8 months ago

It has nothing to do with being lazy about the litter box. . Oh NO! My mulch was moved. OH no! there is a dead mouse in my yard....Damn Kids! Enjoy your lonely lives being angry, probably stewing in hate while muttering about the kids. Can't figure out why nobody comes to visit? There is a place where you two can place your traps.

jafs 2 years, 8 months ago

Of course it does, if you like to walk around in your own yard without stepping in it.

Or if your dog finds it very provocative.

Etc.

Smarmy_Schoolmarm 2 years, 8 months ago

It can kill plants and grass. Those tend to cost quite a little bit of money if you have to replace them over and over.

MarcoPogo 2 years, 8 months ago

If there's one thing that KRichards excels at, it's subjecting people to a bunch of his crap. (insert rimshot here) ...only meant in fun...

Take_a_letter_Maria 2 years, 8 months ago

I found that sprinkling cayenne pepper in the mulch did the trick.

imnotyoo 2 years, 8 months ago

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workinghard 2 years, 8 months ago

Wow, did you miss the part where I said I talked to him. Spoke to him twice. Also told him that the cat was obsessed with getting into the big outdoor mouse poison bait stations I had. He obviously didn't care that his cat could be poisoned.

Smarmy_Schoolmarm 2 years, 8 months ago

My son had a neighbor who allowed his cats to use my son's flower beds as a litter box. After complaining to the neighbor and getting no resolution, my son made a catapult and flung the dung onto the neighbor's roof. I doubt it ever really made any difference but it made my son feel better.

Lisa Medsker 2 years, 8 months ago

That ticks me off, too. I have cats. They stay inside. They use a litter box. I clean said litter box. Kitties are safe from coyotes, speeding cars, dogs, and evil humans, and cardinals are safe from kitties. Why this is so hard for some people to understand is beyond me.

irvan moore 2 years, 8 months ago

we walk our dog on a leash and we clean up after him, most of the folks in our neighborhood do the same. we have neighbors who let their cats run free and use part of our yard as a litter box, i feel really fortunate to have good neighbors and really don't think i have any thing to complain about

imnotyoo 2 years, 8 months ago

Sounds like my neighborhood. Responsible dog owners, outside cats. The cat poop doesn't bother me any more than the squirrel poop.

asixbury 2 years, 8 months ago

The leashes that reel in and out are ridiculous since they do not teach proper walking techniques to the dog. You are supposed to have the dog on a short leash so as to have more control. I hate when people on the walk/biking trails let their dogs run free. My dogs are leash-trained, but do not like other dogs. If a fight ensues, it is the stupid people letting their dogs off the leash's fault and is likely to get sued if my dog is injured. I really cannot stand irresponsible pet owners. My cats stay inside where it is much safer for them and not a nuisance to my neighbors. I don't find it a big deal to let them outside, but clean up after them!

imnotyoo 2 years, 8 months ago

How did that escalate to being about guns? Sheesh.

Anyway, we let our dogs off-leash in areas where it's allowed. They like other dogs and are friendly. If your dog gets in a fight it's because your dog sucks.

CeeCee 2 years, 8 months ago

It sounds to me like KansasLiberal wants the law abiding citizens to go home and suck it while the people who choose not to follow the laws can go freely about their business doing whatever they choose. I'll admit the gun analogy was the wrong choice. My bad.

jafs 2 years, 8 months ago

Many dogs are territorial and protective of their owners.

That's why we have things like leash laws, which work quite well if the owners are responsible.

CeeCee 2 years, 8 months ago

Exactly jafs, if EVERYONE kept their dogs on a leash no one would have to keep their dogs at home.

asixbury 2 years, 8 months ago

My dogs will never instigate a fight. They are what Jafs described--territorial and very protective of me. They have never bitten anyone or anything and that is solely due to me being a responsible owner. Guard dogs are not supposed to be friendly to strangers or other dogs, but they do know when it is appropriate. A stray dog running up on me is probably going to be viewed as an attack by my protective dogs. That is why a fight would ensue.

Frederic Gutknecht IV 2 years, 8 months ago

My dog will tolerate any other dog, as long as said dog does not instigate a fight, or as long as it's a wimpy dog that poses no threat.

A dog knows that placing its head over the back of another dog, or gets up in its face, is an attempt to dominate and it will not necessarily tolerate such behavior. It is a call to fight, or be submissive to that offensive dog. Owners do not always know this and believe that their offensive dog is being attacked without any provocation.

Also, it is far too common (though not legal) for people let their cats roam free to wander into the paths of cars and hunt in our neighborhoods. That's fine, but there are consequences. Coyotes roam through many neighborhoods looking for whatever game they can find and cats are fair game. Don't allow your cats to roam and expect them to always return home.

Don't believe that your dog is an angel and that all dogs are angels.

DO expect that people should control their dogs and cats.

mcallaigh 2 years, 8 months ago

My dog has been deemed an alpha female by the humane society and her vet. This is common and they typically are threatened by any dog that is near their size or larger. She is a large german shepherd, and I have to be really careful around other dogs.

I can tell you the people that constantly allow their dogs to get out and let them run free in the neighborhood make me really nervous when I'm walking her. I usually have to pick her up to prevent a fight.

Clara Westphal 2 years, 8 months ago

There was a woman who passed my house every day walking her dog. She always stopped to let her dog dump on my lawn. One day I took a picture of her and her dog 'in action'. It never happened again.

I had a neighbor who had roaming cats. They were in my flower beds alot. It sure didn't smell like flowers. .

Jason Johnson 2 years, 8 months ago

I have a neighbor down the block who is a real dick. So I walk my dogs at midnight and take them down to his lawn to take a crap.

It's either that or spraying Roundup in his lawn, so I prefer the lesser of the two crimes.

workinghard 2 years, 8 months ago

I have an outdoor cat but I took the time and expense to make sure he cannot leave my property. A large portion is fenced off and cat escape proof. Took some work on my part but is he bothering the neighbors? Nope. You can have outdoor cats and keep them from bothering the neighbors at the same time.

workinghard 2 years, 8 months ago

"OH no! there is a dead mouse in my yard" No mice, but lots of birds, squirrels, and rabbits. You really think people should be ok with having to clean that up when it is not their cat?

Terri Ferguson 2 years, 8 months ago

The police pulled me over when my passenger threw out an empty ketchup packet out her window. Luckily, we just got a warning.

Alexander Smith 2 years, 8 months ago

Well first of all.. Shock collars are a joke and should not be allowed. The industry likes to make you think that is is a perfect solution but its not. They require constant maintance or they don't work. Is it too lose, is the batteries in the colar good ..is the batteries in the remote good? is there hair build up under the contacts to prevent effect? people don't consider this.

Plus .. if you need a shock colar for your dog???? you Shouldn't have the dog.

Either way dogs should not be allowed in parks, grocery stores, or any place there is food prepared or children. Unless its a service dog were they are trained. People forget that most accidents involving children is not that the dog was mean..it was that the dog was playful and trampled the child trying to play... plus many people are allergic to dogs and cats. So health is a concern also.

Frederic Gutknecht IV 2 years, 8 months ago

There are no perfect solutions...just a there should be no such utterly refutable pronouncements aired in a public forum.

RoeDapple 2 years, 8 months ago

I just wish the damn deer wouldn't leave their pellet piles in my yard. And stay away from my garden.

Ginny Hedges 2 years, 8 months ago

workinghard - You sound like a very considerate neighbor. I wish my neighbors were. I don't think it is unrealistic for me to be able to go out in my own yard and enjoy it without seeing and smelling cat poop. My biggest concern is that someone will run them over accidentally or they will be underneath or around a vehicle and get hurt or killed. I guess I care more about their pets than they do and that is frustrating to me. I don't think that makes me an angry person like satcheljerk said. I just feel sorry for their cats because they aren't being cared for properly. Thank you for being a caring and loving owner.

Lisa Medsker 2 years, 8 months ago

People who refuse to clean up after their dogs REALLY piss me off. I have four. Count 'em, FOUR. We ALWAYS have "poop-bags", and use them. They are ALWAYS on-leash when not in the fenced yard, and it's not a retractable piece-of-crap, either. Those are useless, and if anything, will TEACH a dog to pull. They do not ensure the safety of anything your dog should decide to chase, nor do they ensure the safety of your own animal. The dogs deserve better, the neighbors deserve better, and those of us who are capable of taking responsibility for our family members with fur deserve better. Always one or two jerks who have to screw it up for the rest of us, ya know?

asixbury 2 years, 8 months ago

Why? There are no bad dogs, only bad owners. I haven't heard of any problems with the Pit Bulls in Lawrence, so this seems off-base.

parrothead8 2 years, 8 months ago

We live on a corner, and the same person always lets their dog poop in our yard, but they do it once they're past our fence-line so nobody can see who it is. I wish I could catch them in the act just once, because it's a real pain to clean up those big ol' dumps.

Angela Heili 2 years, 8 months ago

@ the ironmouse. If used properly, just like a leash, e-collars are quite effective. I use one for my Aussie but rarely do I use the "shock" option. I mostly use the audible tone. However, I've been training dogs for over 25 years and my dog was very well trained long before I ever used an e-collar. She does very well off leash so I use the e-collar to comply with Lawrence leash laws. Granted, there are days when she's a bit overly excited and I'll put her on a 6 or 4 foot leash because I don't want to have to use the shock on the e-collar. Her personality is one that she doesn't respond well to strong reprimand.

As a side note, any e-collar I've ever purchased I've always tested on myself first so I know what level of correction I want to use or not use. Most e-collars the first level of correction is similar to putting your tongue on a 9-volt battery. It's just a tingle. The second is a little stronger tingle similar to a 10's unit used by a chiropractor. The third level is enough to really get your attention. Rarely, if ever do I go above the second level if I have to use it at all.

I would say, based on your description of e-collar maintenance and use, that it's not the e-collar that's a joke but the person using it that is. Any not willing to educate themselves with any dog training tool is a joke. In the hands of someone who is willing to educate themselves on the proper use, they are a very useful tool.

Also most e-collars now days are rechargeable. You plug them into an adapter that plugs into a wall. Hair build up isn't an issue and I've got an Aussie and she has a lot of thick, long fur. As a poster said, most accidents with children and dogs involve A) an uneducated dog handler who should stop a child from getting in the face of the dog and B) an uneducated parent who should've stopped the child if the parent was present at the time.

I agree with you that dogs shouldn't be allowed where food prep occurs. Dogs shed constantly and who wants fur in their food? Even dogs that "don't shed" will lose some fur. Maybe not a huge amount but there will be some loose hairs. My dog isn't allowed in the kitchen at all, whether food is being prepped or not.

As you can see, the common theme here is education not grumbling about how dogs shouldn't be allowed where children are and if you have to use an e-collar you shouldn't have a dog. It's the people not the dogs that are the problem.

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