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Just yesterday, I was almost hit by a car while crossing on the pedestrian crossing. She was on the phone.
Heh. I've almost been run over twice crossing at the 4-way stop at 9th & CT on calm days in broad daylight. Both times, neither individuals were on the phone. The real fun was the guy in the full-sized truck that had the audacity to honk and flip me off.
While I appreciate the intent of "banning cell phone use while driving", it misses the real problem: there are no standards for who gets and who gets to keep a drivers' license.
Unsafe drivers are unsafe regardless of what extracurricular activities they are participating in while driving.
Look, if you are going to ban cell phones, you need to also include GPS navigation systems, AM/FM radios, screaming kids in the backseat, heating and air conditioning systems, no eating after going thru the McDonalds drive-thru, as well. ANYTHING, including a fellow passenger can be a distraction to one's driving. How about making the penalty so darn stiff ($$$$$$$$$$$) that there would be a very strong incentive NOT to use them. I understand the desire to address this, but it is unenforceable and just another way for the government to butt into our lives.
If they do this K-10 will instantly get safer.
As long as you have college kids driving on K-10, it will not get safer to any degree. That highway was a killer between KC and Lawrence, long before the current highway was constructed. The Kansas Turnpkke between KC and Lawrence does not have the same fatality rate, hum! K-10 has speeders, folks driving in the left lane and driving comatose (they have not looked into theri rear view mirror since they backed out of the driveway; maybe), cars threading the needle, etc.
I can understand why texting and driving is such a no-no. That really is a big problem with drivers these days. I'd have to agree that talking on the phone is no more distracting than talking with a passenger or paying attention to the GPS...they talk to you too! If NTSB bans phones in the car, then I think that is lopsided considering all the other electronic devices in cars these days. Especially in newer cars with touch screen dashes and DVD players. Are you going to ban that too? While you're at it, you might as well require us all to wear straight jackets behind the wheel!
So what's the differents with being on the phone and driving or eating a cheeseburger and driving. Some people can't walk and chew gum, so if you are in an accident while on the phone not paying attention while driving then you are at fault. Be responsible for your actions.
no one is responsible for their actions anymore.
Haven't you been paying attention?
I think allowing hands free cell phone use would make a lot more sense. Two hands on the wheel, no head slumped to one side. Only downside would be that it would look like everyone is talking to themselves on their way places, which I do quite a bit of anyway.
Who would know you're on a hands free phone anyway? It would just look like you're talking to yourself. And so far, being crazy isn't illegal.
Yes I do, and I can go get a Blue Tooth Device, for when I drive. It will be helpful. I only get or make a call ever so often, when I am on the road. I just can't wait until, someone who has the phone glued to their ear while they drive, gets popped for it. That will make me happy.
Probably smart, but I'm skeptical that hands free capabilities are any more dangerous than car radios & conversations with passengers. Did you know that there are cars that drive themselves? Mercedes, I think, has a concept model. If you're traveling under 40 mph, it does it all for ya. One of these days, Commander Data will do the driving. I bet he'd entertain me along the way, too
And I have no problem with you getting a ticket, then another more costly ticket, more money and finally going to jail. As long as you understand the consequences, I have no problem with you suffering those consequences.
I think it is ridiculous. I agree that anything done while driving is distracting, including drinking a coke, but we are not talking about outlawing eating while driving, at least not yet. Enough with this type of regulation. Practice defensive driving. As to K 10, it is not built properly and will not be safer until the barriers are up. It's not phones or college students. Ask a traffic engineer for his opinion about K 10. Congress needs to attend to meaningful and enforceable legislation, not this kind of crap that is an easy way for them to look like they are doing something.
Yes, Ely.., anything distracting is a distraction. NTSB has a few decades of data analyzing a wide variety of situations. Just talking on the phone reduces attentiveness by a half. That's a lot. Texting or dialing a number is four to five times as distracting, which makes that driver as dangerous as if they were drinking. I'd guess that programming in numbers to a GPS would be comparable.
Driving very close and very fast are typical on K10. Immature drivers and distracted drivers contribute much, much more to the dangers of that highway than its design (which design is still within the standards for new construction, according to the KHP)
Congress and the NTSB are, by the way, not the same entity.
They have signs up that say stay right except to pass. How well is that enforced?
They should ban voice and text calls while driving but allow cell phones to be used for GPS navigation.
Yes, with allowance for emergencies. Driving through California, Oregon and Washington last year along coast highway; it appeared to me that drivers in all three states were not using cell phones while driving. I saw quite a few drivers who had pulled off the road to use their phones. Don't know about the laws in those states or how the enforcement goes. Lawrence is especially bad; not being bigoted here, but young women drivers seem to be the most obvious.
No way. I have had more close calls with people yelling at their kids or bending over to try to pick something up on the passenger side floor (one just this morning) or eating and spilling something on themselves, or drinking and spilling something on themselves, or checking out a hot chick running in skimpy running clothes, or etc etc you get the idea.
No way. I am fine with no texting or no phones, but the NTSB "findings" included even hands free phone use. Based on faulty data and hasn't been accurately compared to other distracted driving items like make-up and bratty kids.
NO, BUT in the UK the motoring organizations were really against a ban until they started to look at motorists using their phones on the motorways. It became clear that the really dangerous time was as the call went on the driver would start to lose concentration on the road and get into the call.
Only as they independently realized how dangerous the mobile phones were did they come out and support the ban.
It is now illegal to use a mobile phone whilst the vehicle is in motion. You are also not allowed to stop where you normally are not allowed to stop to make a call.
Other advice, do as I say not as I do
I was hit by a car in downtown Columbia, MO in the crosswalk when I had the right away and the driver neglected to honor the red light soon enough. She was of course on the phone. Typical of the going lower-Midwestern crap attitude of "I give myself all the credit and you none" she's like "How else can I help you?"
You've done quite enough already, thanks. Just a memorable parable of the reality of what aggressive people who impose on others with zero understanding or judgment are really doing --running them down, in this case literally---certainly NOT helping.
You yourself "impose on others with zero understanding or judgment ..." Your accident had nothing to do with the "lower-Midwestern crap attitude"...what ever that is!
I would rather see nationwide standards for driver training and testing, with graduated licensing for power, weight, and combination vehicles. As it stands now, if you can fog a mirror, you can get a license that lets you drive almost anything, as long as it's not tagged as a commercial vehicle.
How on earth did we all manage to get from point A to poin t B before there were cell phones? I hope they start building cars with a device to scramble the signals as long as the engine is running.
So you want to keep passengers from using their devices, too?
My car is a "no phone zone". Everyone knows to keep their phones, iTouch or what ever turned off when they ride with me.If that's a problem with any of them, they can find another ride.
my phone stores my music and does navigation. should that be banned too?
I wouldn't support a federal ban because I think this issue should be left up to the individual states to decide. However, I would support a state ban.
For the record, when and if, there is an epidemic of people putting on make up and running red lights, and there are federal recommendations being made to ban make up, I would probably agree with that ban also but considering that there are vastly more distracted drivers using cell phones than there are (presumably) women putting on make-up, it is not an accurate comparison.
As for the bratty kids, if they are bothering you that much, just pull over and put them on the side of the road, someone will eventually come along and pick them up.
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