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Can't wait to grab it right out of the bargain bin in six weeks!
It will be right next to my stool to be used as TP.
I don't give a damn about Ole roy
Hasn't it been out for like a year?
Sorry, no, I'm not a Dallas Cowboys fan.
I disagree.... I think Roy is a class act. The few times I've met him he was always nice and friendly. I even saw him give out suckers at Lawrence High basketball games to kids that would come up and talk to him. I think the majority of players that he coached at KU were great role models for the younger fans. I think we're very lucky to have such a great coach as Bill Self who has truly taken this program to the level we all knew it could be but I can't say I'm a Roy hater like everyone else. I mean if Roy leaving us means we got Bill.... I'd say he did us a favor!
TLR- That is an expensive and rough toilet paper, isn't it?
I don't support UNC athletics.
"I don't give a sh*t about North Carolina." -Roy Williams
April 7, 2003
Hope that's in his book.
Every time I hear/read "Class Act", I want to puke. It's a "CLASSY" Act that RW is not, "classy" being the adjectival form. However, I realize this is a lost cause and the hideous term is lodged in the vernacular.
But beyond such nitpicking about some folks' favorite term for the man, Roy's "classiness" was selective and TOE is exactly right. If you didn't mean anything to him his grand beneficence did not extend to you. What a self righteous phony. I mean, the man referred to himself in the third person! "Roy Weeyums, Roy Weeyums." Good riddance.
WGAS he;s history, old news.... move on. what a dumb question to ask...
I feel a pretty much the same way about Roy as I feel about my ex. Glad he's not around anymore, glad I found somebody better, but I don't particularly want good things to happen to him. No way would any of my money go into Roy Williams pockets.
this thread is embarrassing. Roy did a lot for KU and for Lawrence, and however you want to talk about "class" and its referents, it is an attribute that has been sadly lacking among a lot of locals and Jayhawk fans since Roy's departure.
He gave it his best every day he was here. Now he's giving his best somewhere else. I was as disappointed as anyone to see him go, but he did right by all of us during his time in Lawrence, and was under no obligation to make it a lifetime commitment. He remains a supporter of KU and its programs to this day--let's let bygones be bygones and show a little respect to those who have come before, wherever they are now.
I have no problems with Roy at all. My problem is mostly with biographies. I do my best not to read any of them.
I think he was a great coach and did a lot for KU that is paying dividends still today. I'm not mad at him nor do I begrudge him the joy of returning to his home state. I am just not interested enough to read a book by him about coaching. I've never considered him very articulate about explaining coaching, although he is one heck of a good coach and knows the game well. I don't read a lot of sports biographies and subjects like that, even though I do enjoy watching sports events and following my favorite teams.
sports fans are funny the way they idolize and then detest figures based on the decisions those individuals made which benefited themselves the most.
I'm so mad at James Naismith for not coaching KU basketball anymore!! booo him for leaving us high and dry. see how stupid you people sound.
That's a shame, jonas, why is that? They're not my favorite genre, but the Jackson, Adams, and Truman bio's by McCullough are excellent.
I'll be proud to buy and read a copy of Roy's book. Fifteen fantastic years with my favorite team in sports? What's not to respect and admire about that?
Sure am sad for all you still harboring some kind of grudge. Never really understood all that to begin with, but if you're still railing about it you've got some issues with rationality. The man went HOME, for cryin' out loud! There was always only one job that could have persuaded Roy to leave, his alma mater and it's basketball legacy were in trouble, his mentor/father-figure was pleading with him to return and save the program, .....and it's his HOME!
You people can't get that through your heads? Seek help.
"That's a shame, jonas, why is that? They're not my favorite genre, but the Jackson, Adams, and Truman bio's by McCullough are excellent."
Stay patient with the tangent, if you'd be so kind.
I was reading a book on the Japanese economic "miracle" and what it's causes were. He made the point that while examining the economic causes, business researches and analysts looked at them at what parts or causes should be adopted or adapted for the American system. The problem with this is that it ignored the differing circumstances, culture, institutional development etc, that created the system. Lifetime employment guarantees, integrated keiretsu networks and that sort of thing worked well in Japan, but those pieces turned out to not function at all in America, because we lacked the Rest of the system, that enabled those individual pieces to function.
That's sort of my view on biographies. Reading about someone's life is interesting, but they offer little lesson, as far as I'm concerned, about how it relates to my own life. People respond to their own individual circumstances, and their circumstances dictate what they can do and the parameters of their available responses. The only thing they seem to offer is the potential for mimicry, and the effectiveness of mimicry is hampered by differences in environment.
That's just a general musing. The other thing is that to find the good ones, it's also necessary to weed through a great many more products of self-aggrandizement and ego. Not all of course, but you gotta admit the possibility
of greater ego in books written about one person, particular when "biography" has the "auto" in front of it.
jaywalker - see, now I don't need help. I don't begrudge the fact that he left but how he left. ANd yes, I think he could help it. couldn't even wait to celebrate the great season with the team, the fans and the city. And i tend to grudge anyone who makes my kid cry.
"And i tend to grudge anyone who makes my kid cry. "
Funny, Mr. Weeyums finished EVERY KU basketball season in tears.
That's food for thought, jonas. I definitely see your point, I can't remember personalizing myself w/ events from Adams' life! And from that angle I just realized that the only bio's I've read are more historical in nature. Don't think I've read any contemporary bio's, people still alive; I do find that egotistical, too. Never read an auto- either.
Tangent was cool, too, but I'm glad you prefaced (:>) I'da been scratchin' my head.
yeah, I hear that excuse alot for justification, that and "he lied!" Problem is, to most it wouldn't have mattered how he left, just that he did and for UNC. For some reason 'Hawks have a bit of an inferiority complex w/ them. Roy's said a dozen times that it was the most difficult decision he'd ever had to make, and I'm guessin' his best thinkin' told him to make the break like a band-aid. Good chance he was afraid he'd change his mind, also. Woulda been excruciating for him to have to prolong his presence in front of guys like Miles and Simien, you know how attached he gets to his players.
Nope, sorry mom, but after 7+ years that axe has to be ground down to a nub. It's a shame your boy cried, I was sincerely bummed, too. But it wasn't malicious and it certainly wasn't personal, so that one don't fly either.
"Tangent was cool, too, but I'm glad you prefaced (:>) I'da been scratchin' my head."
I've done worse.
naw; i don't think so.. he never read my book....but wait, i never wrote one...i could care less!!
You have to consider the conditions under which Roy left; his boss (AD Al Bohl) was making his life miserable and had just unceremoniously canned his very good friend Terry Allen. Meanwhile an adoring staff and fans were on their knees begging him to come back "home".
I have a feeling had Dr. Bohl been fired first, Roy might still be here. I bet if he were to speak VERY open and honestly he'd probably stayed if he knew Al was on the way out.
Did he do this as tactfully as Roy usually did things, no. But wow...how's this for a surprise; Roy is a regular human who can be emotional and yeah, has an ego!. If you really try and look at this from his point of view, most of us would have done the exact same thing!
why should i?
when you sit in memorial stadium and hear a man say i will never leave the university of kansas, or when a man says on national tv i dont give a "blank" about north carolina and he is gona less then a week afterword it is hard to care about something he dose. my respect for him is gone until he grows the _ _ '_ to come and play kansas in the fieldhouse.
Yes, I plan to read it. When are people going to get over this - he is gone!! I don't remember him saying he would "never"leave KU and I tend to think that "never" is a very very long time.
As far as his "I don't give a @#$% about North Carolina" I feel like that comment needs to be taken in the text it was said. At that particular point in time, all of his thoughts, concerns and attention needed to be on the group of young men that had just lost a heartbreaking ballgame and that was just where it was. He was asked repeatedly about the North Carolina job just moments after the loss and, when he tried to politely tell the interviewer that he didn't want to talk about NC, she kept asking anyway. Coach Williams lost his cool and made the comment. I appreciate the fact that his only concern at that point was his KU basketball team - not being politically correct and not addressing the question about NC.
Geez people, get over it!! He did some great things at KU and I wish him only the best. How do you think the "home crowd" felt about Coach Self when he decided to make the move to KU? He received hate mail and all sorts of garbage. They felt they had been deserted, just like many KU fans did when Coach Williams made his decision. Both of these men made decisions that were not necessarily well received by many, but they did what they thought best for their families. Just glad the decisions I make for my family don't have to undergo the public scrutiny that these men, and many others like them, have had to face.
He already has enough money. I'm not giving him any of mine.
i voted yes, put it on my christmas lisst
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