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How much did you consider your potential income when you chose your career?

Asked at Massachusetts Street on March 23, 2006

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“Not much. I just wanted to be a teacher. I didn’t think about it, but I think about it now that I’m near retirement.”

Photo of Rod Spears

“I considered it, but it wasn’t a big part of the decision. I mainly wanted to do something I enjoyed.”

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“Not much. I chose something based on my creativity and what I like doing.”

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“None. Not at all. I was studying Polish literature and language in college, and it turned out that I didn’t make any money with it.”

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trinity 8 years, 9 months ago

hey, i'm enochville today! :) and here i thought this was over, lol....

how much did i consider income when going in to my career field? not nearly enough, lmao-don't make enough to pay back them good ol' student loans! sigh ah well...such is life eh?

trinity 8 years, 9 months ago

does sunflowers glitch cause problems with the ljw in general? i'm on a completely different company, don't even live in lawrence, and i had a heckuva time getting the paper to come up this morning!

badger 8 years, 9 months ago

I could get it to load, but couldn't get to anything but the front page. However, that's normal for me until about 9:30.

As to the question, no. I had a plan going into college, but it of course changed, and I couldn't figure out what I wanted to 'be', so I studied something I loved and figured the rest would work itself out. It did. I've done some sales, and some admin work, and finally put together the skill set to do my current job, which is essentially number herding. Generally, having 'a science degree' is enough to get me in the door, and skillset does the rest.

audvisartist 8 years, 9 months ago

If you're choosing a career based on income, chances are you most likely won't be happy with the career if that's your only reason for choosing it. I started off life as a full blown "suit and tie" business man. It was all about the money. But now, after an undergrad degree in business management and work on an MBA in marketing, I'm doing the whole nonprofit thing and I love it. I'm making 3x less now than I did right out of undergrad, but I wouldn't have it any other way. So kids, here's the lesson. Don't choose a job based solely on money. You'll find yourself doing marketing research on the Latino audience for Frito Lay and suddenly have an epiphany and say, "What in the hell am I doing?!" Stop, think, and choose wisely. And remember to do something you love and have a passion for!

sgtwolverine 8 years, 9 months ago

I couldn't get any part of ljworld.com to load this morning until just now (10:30 eastern). I had no problem with any other site I tried; it was just ljw that wouldn't load. Now it seems to work.

As for the question ... well, I'll let you know when I actually choose a career. But income really isn't my primary concern. At this point I really just want enough money to buy better photographic tools.

RonBurgandy 8 years, 9 months ago

I couldn't even get the site to load. I could get to all other websites besides ljworld and kusports just fine.

Yes, income does is a factor in career. I want to be able to provide for my family to have a great life. Not that it can't happen with little money, but not having to stretch resourses a lot definitely helps with the stress level of the marriage and life.

kansas_prairieland 8 years, 9 months ago

Yes, the potential income of my job is exactly why I decided to take it!!! Absolutely! I get paid big bucks and live like a king because of what I do.

Oh, and by the way, I'm the guy who goes around to construction sites in a big tanker truck and I vaccuum out all of them port-o-lets. And I especially love to do that sort of thing in the summertime when it's 95 degrees outside and about 130 degrees inside on of them port-o-lets!! You know, I gotta tell ya, there's something about the smell of 50 gallons of urine and at least 100 pounds of fecal matter just simmering away inside one of them port-o-lets on a hot summer's day!!! It smells just like a giant crock pot full of grandma's beef stew that you remember (and loved so much) as a kid!!! Mmmm!!!!!!

enochville 8 years, 9 months ago

Are any of the rest of you having trouble with your sunflowerbroadband internet connection this morning?

galfromku 8 years, 9 months ago

I am having trouble with sunflower this morning.. It seems the only websites I can get is sunflower and ljworld.... gee think there may be a monopoly? I can't even get the KU website, google, yahoo, ANYTHING ! It sucks!

enochville 8 years, 9 months ago

I got a hold of sunflower this morning. It appears all of Lawrence is having the same problem. The technicians have been working on it all morning and should have it up soon, they say.

sgtwolverine 8 years, 9 months ago

A family does change the question a bit. I mean, my dad drove 1 hour+ each way to work for a number of years, and I'm confident he would rather have had a shorter commute. But he was providing for us (I'm one of six), so he did it. It wasn't until later that he got a job closer to home.

On the other side of that, he once actually endangered his job for us. He worked for Chrysler, and they were breaking up his unit. They said they could move him to Alabama; if he didn't take that job, then they couldn't guarantee employment. At that point most of us kids were in school, all the way from elementary into high school, and he didn't want to uproot everyone. So he refused the move, and somehow Chrysler had another job for him in Michigan (this was in the 80s, when Chrysler was having major problems).

So in some ways income is an important consideration in the context of a family, but in other ways there are more important considerations than income.

YourItalianPrincess 8 years, 9 months ago

Ever since I was a little girl in grade school, I have always wanted to be a teacher. Even though I'm not teaching grade school children, I'm teaching the little ones before they enter school.

As a daycare owner and teacher my income at times isn't the best, but we do okay. I knew this beforehand but teaching is my thing. I love working with children being my own boss is great too. If I had decided to not to become a teacher I would have still stayed in the field where children are involved.

The sun is out and drying up the playyard now, so its remulch day for me. Have a great Thursday everyone.

badger 8 years, 9 months ago

Yeah, RonBurgandy, news to me, too. If that hits Sixth Street, Austin won't have enough jails for the carnage...

gccs14r 8 years, 9 months ago

Life's too short to hate how you spend a third of it. Do something you enjoy and the money will sort itself out. The alternative is to replace happiness with expensive toys, which are a poor substitute.

Chrissy Neibarger 8 years, 9 months ago

Does anyone know what's up with larryville.com? I can't seem to get registered, and I really want to be able to post on that forum. I've been trying for a couple weeks now and no one responds.. just wondering...

badger 8 years, 9 months ago

omb - I don't know if I want to see that many drunks put on moving buses for four hours.

The buses will have to be decommissioned.

By the way, in another thread, it logged me as 'davidryan'. I was still me in the preview screen, tho.

Ah, well.

Confrontation 8 years, 9 months ago

I sure wish I would have thought more about my current salary. As a first generation college student, I didn't have much in terms of educational counseling or financial counseling.

Linda Endicott 8 years, 9 months ago

Some of us don't have the advantage of being able to pick and choose what we will and won't do.

Hell no, I didn't pick this job for the money. It doesn't pay nearly enough. But, it's enough to pay my bills (most months), and I don't go hungry. But it's a job, and there are a lot of people who don't have that much. I consider myself fortunate. Jobs are scarce in some areas.

Some of the things I really want have to wait til I save up, but gee, that's the way folks used to do it all the time.

Remember a time when the first car a teenager had was some old jalopy? Now they all seem to have new ones. Of course, back in the old days, you could buy a good used car for $300. You sure couldn't do that now.

So many kids now want to start out life with all the possessions that it took their parents years to obtain.

sgtwolverine 8 years, 9 months ago

I'll second the idea of being thankful for my job.

However, it's worth noting that $300 had more value "back in the old days."

But my first car, a 1991 Dodge Daytona, was only $500, and it never broke down throughout the four years I drove it. I loved that car, partly because it was a stick shift, and not by my own choice, I've had automatics since then. (The quirk of that car was that the previous owner's girlfriend -- well, by then, ex-girlfriend -- had driven it, but she didn't know how to drive a stick. So she promptly ground out first gear. So I just had to start in second.)

Hey, there's an OTS question waiting to happen. What was your first car, and how much did it cost?

Linda Endicott 8 years, 9 months ago

Yeah, $300 used to go a lot farther than it does now, I have to admit. But still, I don't think most of those cars I see in high school parking lots are used ones. They look too good for that.

I'll start the first car thing...lol.

My first car was a 1970 Opal wagon and it cost $750. It had no power steering and no power brakes, and if you took your foot off the gas at an intersection, it would stall every time. That's how I learned to drive with both feet. I've had too damn many cars like that!

Lorenzo_Teris 8 years, 9 months ago

crazyks, ain't that the truth!!

Back in the 80's, as a senior in high school, I drove around in a 1974 Chevy Malibu sedan, which was my parents second car. They drove around in a late model Oldsmobile at the time.....and I got the clunker!!

And since that Chevy Malibu looked very 70's-ish and also happened to be an ugly shade of brown......it sure wasn't anything to get excited about as a young testosterone-filled male like I was!! I mean, I wasn't exactly a hit with the ladies cruising around in that thing!

Nowadays I see high school kids driving around in late model 4x4's (with leather interior)!!

My, how the times have changed!

christie 8 years, 9 months ago

100%. When I was searching for a career I opened up the Newspaper and circled the highest paying jobs. At that time the term Systems Analyst was popular and commanded a nice salary. So that's what I went for. 25 Years later it's still a decent position.

Unfortunately I have to drive 1+ hours each way to get paid for my skills, but that will soon change as I plan on retiring and Opting-Out of Kansas.

sunflower_sue 8 years, 9 months ago

The hubby and I decided a family was more important than money. He didn't factor money into his job...he's doing what he knew he was born to do and loves. As for me, I started off college with dreams of making the big bucks. After a year, I took a good hard look at myself and decided that I would never be happy doing what I was doing. I switched majors and have never regretted the decision, although I knew I would never be rich. Upon graduating, I switched again and decided that raising my own children is what I wanted to do...even less money...but my life is oh so rich! Wouldn't change a thing!

Warpony, hope the dentist went well with you! My little one is sleeping on the couch for now. (She liked the giggle gas.) She also found it comforting to go in her PJs and slippers this morning and also took a stuffed animal. Sure, you might look goofy, but I'd give it a try next time.:o)

sunflower_sue 8 years, 9 months ago

1st car: Chevy Citation hatchback. Don't remember the year but it cost me $2400. A fortune for me at 16, but I'd already had a job for 2 years and could afford it.

Best car: about 8 years ago I needed a "beater" so I bought a Dodge with a slant 6 and paid $200. I drove it for 3 years and then sold it for $300. That was a great car!

sgtwolverine 8 years, 9 months ago

Oh, best car. Good thought.

I'm on only my third car, so this is pretty thin for me, but I would probably name that Daytona as my favorite. I like my current car, simply because it's far newer (2005) and considerably lower mileage and still under warranty, but it is accompanied by a car payment. Ah, well. It was a necessity. I went and totaled my previous car on an icy Saturday morning in January, so I needed another one ASAP.

RonBurgandy 8 years, 9 months ago

My first car was a 1988 Hyundai Excel. White with blue interior, the sweet power of 4 cylinders and a top speed of 55 mph. Needless to say, I couldn't take it on the highway. She ended up retiring to a junkyard for about $50.

ms_canada 8 years, 9 months ago

I, also, way up here in the still frozen north, could not access the LJW site at all this am. A chosen career and money? Well, no, money was not a factor in my career choice or study course. I wanted very much to be a doctor but my father could not possibly afford that, we were quite poor. So I chose the best option for me, psychiatric nursing. Unlike regular nursing, psych nursing paid you while you studied. My first paycheque was $150. I thought I had died and gone to heaven. Never has so much money before in my 18 years. Meals were 20 cents each and room was $5 I was riiiiich! And as it turned out, I did very much enjoy a nursing career. When I moved to Edmonton I was taken on in a general hospital and did regular medical nursing which I loved. Income was not a factor in my choice but money or the lack of it (for training) was a factor.

kansas_prairieland 8 years, 9 months ago

My first car was a 1974 Pontiac Catalina sedan with 4 barrel V8 400 cid engine. Now I got, if I was lucky, about 11 miles to the gallon (maybe 12--using regular leaded fuel) when I first started driving it back in the early 80's and it had about 50,000 miles on it (It was some old guy's car before I bought it--cheap!!).

Eventually, when the odometer got up to about 130,000 or so....the gas mileage began to dip sharply. By the time I unloaded it back in the early 1990's...it was a complete rust bucket, with what used to be gray paint on it that had practically faded away over the previous 17 years of being parked outdoors and it was getting about 8 miles to the gallon. But gas was about $1.20 or so a gallon way back in 1991 (slightly less than half of what it is now) and I wasn't driving it very far either.

So, while it did cost me some bucks to operate it....it didn't cost me nearly as much money to operate then as it surely would now if I had still had a big gas hog now!! My God! I couldn't imagine driving around town nowadays with a car that was only getting roughly 8 miles to the gallon---and gas costing $2.50 or more a gallon!!! Geez!!!

who_do_u_want_me_2_be 8 years, 9 months ago

My early career was doing what ever my mother told me to do. Jump.Then what ever my teachers told me to do. Eventually my sister, so she wouldn't beat me. I learned how to be who ever they wanted, smart, quiet, joining in,or sit back and shut up,invisible. Clean this, bring them that. Then came husband #2. Let him even imagine anyone had a thought he didn't like, he'd explode. I'm an actress I guess, I have no idea who I am. I can do so many things, but I have no idea of myself as a person.

samsnewplace 8 years, 9 months ago

Make the most money you can, doing something you really enjoy doing.

sunflower_sue 8 years, 9 months ago

who do you want me to be, I want you to be yourself! If you can't find her...go and look for her. Truth is, we are many things to many people. All of it is who we are.

sunflower_sue 8 years, 9 months ago

Tomorrow's OTS ?: How do you feel about the concealed carry law getting passed? (personally, I like it.)

Harry_Manback 8 years, 9 months ago

Well, maybe if you asked this question in another more competitive and higher income area than Lawrence, you'd get different answers.

But to answer the question, I did choose to get a professional degree over liberal arts because I knew it was more lucrative. Also, I felt lost in liberal arts in huge Budig 120 classes. I'm willing to pay more per credit to get better education.

bearded_gnome 8 years, 9 months ago

wow, and whew!
just caught up on yday and today ots.
last night, though the sfbroadband fiberoptics hadn't been but, this site seemed to be down at this time, said some crap about the "internet elves" fixing the oil and chaging the lighter fluid , but I wondered, if ljw has internet elves, does that mean we're supposed to be leaving milk and cookies somewhere? chose my work only slight interest in income, to be comfortable. chose what thought would be good at and enjoy. both true, but disability prevented doing it beyond education.


hope the 'Pony is back and without much pain.
had to have a tooth pulled last summer, damned thing must've had root system in my SHOULDER! hurt afterwards for nearly three weeks!
take care warpony. and, its okay to let go of the dentist now.


finally, with conceal carry passed, I'm guessing nudist would have to resort to that old west the two-shot darringer, in order to hide it? although, he/she ain't giving it to me to fire after THAT! but, boy would somebody be surprised: "excuse me, Mr. badguy, I've just got an itch...STOP RIGHT THERE AND PUT YOUR HANDS UP, YES THIS GUN STINKS, BUT IT ALSO FIRES REAL BULLETS!"

bearded_gnome 8 years, 9 months ago

as to the board shifting our identities, the other day the damned thing thought I was "OBSERVER!"
there's a polar opposite from me!


and in the previous post, "that old west weapon the two shot darringer" should read.
sorry for the error, the earth still revolves around an axis with slight wobble.

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